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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Ripsnort on April 01, 2008, 06:34:53 PM
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So, I was getting sort of wheezy when I excercised hard, beginning around Nov last year. Thought nothing of it, wrote it off to cold weather. Ski season I was downright wheezing, but kept going up. Lifting weights, I'd get 10 minutes into a routine and the wheezing would begin...so I got a physical, chest Xrays, blood work, the whole 9 yards (Hello rubber gloves! ). BP was 120/82. Pulse 48. Oxygen level 100%. Chest x-rays negative. Doc says I got the body of a 20 year old (but the face of an 80 year old ) and believes I have what is called exercise-induced asthma. I have a 2 hour appt. with a Pulminary doc on Friday that I'm really not looking forward to (they stick a snorkel thingy on ya and make you run, but WITH your clothes on... )
Anyway, sucks getting old. That is all. Continue on with your pathetic lives, 47 years old is waiting for ya.
(http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/wp-content/gamedrop_uploads/2007/07/old_man_with_cane-7208671.gif)
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you need a vaporizer... better for your lungs; )
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you need a vaporizer... better for your lungs; )
That would look strange, laying on a bench, with a spotter, pushing 285 lbs. up....with a vaporizer attached. :confused:
Anyway, I forgot to mention the doc perscribed Albeuterol (sp) and its working, but I HATE putting anything in my body except beer. :cool:
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So, I was getting sort of wheezy when I excercised hard, beginning around Nov last year. Thought nothing of it, wrote it off to cold weather. Ski season I was downright wheezing, but kept going up. Lifting weights, I'd get 10 minutes into a routine and the wheezing would begin...so I got a physical, chest Xrays, blood work, the whole 9 yards (Hello rubber gloves! ). BP was 120/82. Pulse 48. Oxygen level 100%. Chest x-rays negative. Doc says I got the body of a 20 year old (but the face of an 80 year old ) and believes I have what is called exercise-induced asthma. I have a 2 hour appt. with a Pulminary doc on Friday that I'm really not looking forward to (they stick a snorkel thingy on ya and make you run, but WITH your clothes on... )
Anyway, sucks getting old. That is all. Continue on with your pathetic lives, 47 years old is waiting for ya.
(http://multiplayerblog.mtv.com/wp-content/gamedrop_uploads/2007/07/old_man_with_cane-7208671.gif)
Yeh, anytime I'm running is out someone's bedroom window,,, and usually no clothes on.
NUTTZ :rolleyes:
BTW I turn 50 in MAY
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That would look strange, laying on a bench, with a spotter, pushing 285 lbs. up....with a vaporizer attached. :confused:
Anyway, I forgot to mention the doc perscribed Albeuterol (sp) and its working, but I HATE putting anything in my body except beer. :cool:
Thats steriods dude..... Hey maybe you'll finally grow some hair :lol
My duaghter was on that for years... asma.
NUTTZ
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Yeh, anytime I'm running is out someone's bedroom window,,, and usually no clothes on.
NUTTZ :rolleyes:
BTW I turn 50 in MAY
RIP ! :D
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Been on the same thing for about a year now, mine is Aspirin Syndrome Asthma.
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Thats steriods dude..... Hey maybe you'll finally grow some hair :lol
My duaghter was on that for years... asma.
NUTTZ
Albuterol is not a steroid.
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I get that sometimes. I switch to Marlboro Lights for a few days and I'm good.
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<<have had asthma all my life
Sux when I try to pretend i'm athletic
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I get that sometimes. I switch to Marlboro Lights for a few days and I'm good.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Now that was focking funnai !
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I have exercised induced asthma as well, not fun stuff. Used to be able to run forever, not anymore :(.
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Trust me on this one: not getting old is the worst suckage of all.
So quit yer whinin'.
:)
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Depending on the pollen count (I think) I will get ExerInducAsthma or what seems to be it.
If I take a loratadine about an hour before I work out, it seems to eliminate it.
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Age is a state of mind, i work with people half my age and can out work most of them on any given day. BTW im 48
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It's not the age, it's the mileage.
:)
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It's not the age, it's the mileage.
:)
Well, the rectum was in good shape. No mileage, so said the doc, but DAMN her finger felt like a can of corn! :uhoh
I know I know...TMI.
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No mileage...on the rectum...you mean you've never had to go...n/m.
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No mileage...on the rectum...you mean you've never had to go...n/m.
Exiting a freeway you slow down, entering a freeway you speed up.
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In theory anyway. I don't know how many times I've been stuck behind a driver that likes to enter the freeway at 35 mph...or even worse, actually stops on the entry...with their blinker on...expecting the entire freeway to stop for them. Crazy.
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rip, that exercise stuff will kill you.
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In theory anyway. I don't know how many times I've been stuck behind a driver that likes to enter the freeway at 35 mph...or even worse, actually stops on the entry...with their blinker on...expecting the entire freeway to stop for them. Crazy.
And its at that point I wish I was either armed or driving a very large old truck with iron bars for bumpers...
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ya ok except when you consider the alternative. any day that you spend above ground is a good day.
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ya ok except when you consider the alternative. any day that you spend above ground is a good day.
True. Except for when your quality of life is far below what keeps you happy. And even then that's questionable. My wife's grandfather is a sprite 85 in great health and is as sharp as ever. However, he's the most miserably pissed off sumsqueak you'll ever meet. He has more money in the bank and invested than he could ever hope to spend during his last years here. And yet, despite all that he could be thankful for, if the newspaper is delivered 5 minutes outside of his expected delivery time he becomes the most unruly person you'll ever meet. It's not uncommon for him to call up the newpaper customer service line and ask them if the printing press workers were late for work. Then he demands a credit for his paper being late. I kid you not.
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If yer weezin RIP yer breathin.
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:rofl :devil
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diablo, that is one example and I know many like that. I have the pleasure of providing on going service to condominiums here in the largest repository of elderly northeasterners, southeast florida. another and quite different example of aging is a gentleman by the name of al proto. this man is 90 something years of age now. he drives himself to the local parish and volunteers to help out doing odd jobs or contracting people to perform those jobs. through the years he has awarded us a few contracts and we have done work at his home thus I have come to know him and consider him a friend. the man is the poster child for aging gracefully and his secret is service to others. if you saw him you would guess his age to be around 60ish. he is still married to his bride of 70 something years and yup, she volunteers also at the church thirft shop every day.
another example is my dad. he still runs his cigar distribution buisiness with the zeal of a man half his age. he and my mom have raised my irresponsible and moronic sister's 5 children so that she may continue her quest for a doctorate degree at the expense of all else. his motivation is capitism and love of his progeny. at 82 he is the hardest working man I know routinely putting in twelve hour days.
lastly is my grandmother who died at 102 years 8 months of age. she watched my children for us when we had to travel or were developing our amway business and no one else was available to care for them when she was in her mid eighties. at ninety she was diagnosed with breast cancer and underwent radical mastectomies, she was a cancer survior for twelve years until old age simply took her. I never saw her angry or bitter and had full use of her faculties until the last six months of her life.
the point is that if one applies themselves at something they derive pleasure or receive satisfaction from and is blessed with good health and a stout frame one may enjoy a full and productive winter. how we age will depend largely on we live and how we perceive our world. I'm a the glass is half full kind of guy I don't suspect that is likely to change either, irrespective of what life tosses in my direction. that's my hope anyways but time will tell.
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You youngsters slay me :)
I'm 58 in good health (thank heaven) and my exercise now consists of switching the remote from my right hand to my left.
Voila! And no exercise induced asthma from that workout!
By the way my job is supervising ironmaking operations of a blast furnace. Keeps me moving and always busy.
Keeps me young and depressed :aok
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age is genetic.. you are as old as your genes let you get.
My grandparents all died in their late 90's.. my 89 year old mom and dad put 40k a year on the car traveling.. my dad still plasters and builds houses and tiles for folks.
exercise is important but.. most people who are gonna live... seem to gravitate toward some normal activities that give them exercise.. they walk and such.. forcing yourself is fooling yourself
my grandmother suggested that I never go to a doctor.. I haven't been to one in 8 years.. I never get sick.. if I break a bone or something I will go.. they do a decent job on that stuff.
If your family gets cancer or bad hearts or plugged up crap.. so will you... you will die young. If you get into a wreck or accident or murder.. you will die.. everyone dies.
I have hep c... a nasty strain of it.. probly got it from a hospital... it may or may not win the race of things to kill me eventually.. it hasn't so far despite the gloomy prediction of my doctors in the past...
In the mean time.. yep.. some of my old broken bones are good rain guages.. more accurate than algores computer models.. no nobel for me tho.
I feel good tho.. I enjoy life. I will retire and enjoy it even more.. or not.. I may just die.. no big deal and nothing to fear.
BP was 128 over 76 on last DMV physical hearing and vision going to hell tho. Walk a couple of miles a day and do 89 situps and 80 pushups before bed.
lazs
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Have they ruled out allergic Rhinitis, http://www.webmd.com/allergies/guide/rhinitis (http://www.webmd.com/allergies/guide/rhinitis) allergy induced Asthma (dust mites) ?
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That's pretty damned funny EskimoJoe! :rofl :aok
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Have they ruled out allergic Rhinitis, http://www.webmd.com/allergies/guide/rhinitis (http://www.webmd.com/allergies/guide/rhinitis) allergy induced Asthma (dust mites) ?
I'll know more after Mon when I see a pulminary specialist. The family Phys just took a wild guess and told me to make an appt with the Pulm Spc.
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I have a few friends who abused Steroids back in the 80s, and now they've developed health problems from arthritis to asthma....You might want to mention to your doctor you used steroids, Rip.
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Turned 63 last month - my theory about exercise is: no pain = no pain..
You have to grow old but you don't have to grow up...
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Trust me on this one: not getting old is the worst suckage of all.
So quit yer whinin'.
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So what's that,...... dieing???
I think the dead are somewhere feeling waaaaaay better than we are. :)
Btw i just turned 30, am i old yet??
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I have a few friends who abused Steroids back in the 80s, and now they've developed health problems from arthritis to asthma....You might want to mention to your doctor you used steroids, Rip.
:rofl Dude, I don't even put coffee in this chiseled body. :cool: (Okay, I admit I'm alittle fatter around the waist line than I used to be...)
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Rip - After watching you match beers with the FDB's during the first con (including the 'special brew') I'm not sure you're allowed to have a medical 'complaint'. You should still be numb.
I'm back after 5 years (it took that long to purge the cigar smoke).
It's good to know you're still here.
Raider
(formerly of VMF-111 Devildogs)
PS. I had no idea there were so many young people in AH! :cool:
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Getting old is not for the faint of heart or the weak. :devil
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Rip - After watching you match beers with the FDB's during the first con (including the 'special brew') I'm not sure you're allowed to have a medical 'complaint'. You should still be numb.
I'm back after 5 years (it took that long to purge the cigar smoke).
It's good to know you're still here.
Raider
(formerly of VMF-111 Devildogs)
PS. I had no idea there were so many young people in AH! :cool:
Yo Raider! Long time! Hell ya! FDB's reputation of drinking is overrated but I really don't remember drinking that much with them. :D
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I'm sure you remember it better than me. I was pretty much gone for the weekend after 2 beers on Friday night!
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Well .. 58 in May ..beginnin to notice I need a bit of maintenance down time more than I used to.
Born with Asthma.. some very specific triggers that I stay away from.
Been on Albuturol for decades. Doc just switched me to Xopenex a month or so ago..said it had less side effects.
I'm thinkin since it costs about 3 times more than Al did, he's prolly rippin me off.. because if Al was gonna bite me, it would have a long time ago.
I beat Asthma about the head and shoulders by gettin involved in physically demanding types of jobs for a long time.
The stint at Kesmai roont my girlish figure, and I began to have breathin problems.
It surprised me how fast my general fitness went south while I worked there.
I am still playin catch up ..dunno if I will ever be back down to the 200lbs I was when I started there at KesCo..
..damn glad I am nowhere near the almost 400lbs I was when I left video gaming all together.
I've been hangin at ~300lbs for the winter ..will start droppin weight again over the summer, always do.
Had the pulmonary eval today after bein on CPAP for 2 weeks.. was diagnosed with severe sleep apnea, and since CPAP and maintenance drugs (Singulair and Flo-nase) ..I haven't had one of my patented killer headaches that lay me out for a day.
I always useda have one or two a month during season changes.
Ima go out tomorrow and clean the Vette up, see what the day brings :)
-GE aka Frank (figure I have 30 years or so before I have to start worryin about that whole 'old' thing)
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little over six foot tall and 190 here. exercise every day but come from a lean family. long lived people.
No allergies and am never sick.. had the flu 3 times in my life. never had any kind of heartburn or stomach ache. Get a cold every 10 years or so that amounts to a runny nose and sore throat.
Every broken bone aches tho.. and I have broken a lot.. back was broke twice.. 9 broken verts.. two places fused on their own.. no big deal.. leg that was reattached 30 year ago now has the nerves back but keeps me from running.. no big deal.. I never ran anyway. crushed ankle feels like walking on a knife some days but is mostly fine.. some days I limp a little.. others not. eat whatever I want and have a great little mexican girl friend.
Life is good.. I can now afford to be a little more comfortable or.. maybe I am just happier with my lot.
I can walk forever.. don't get out of breath but.. as you age. you notice that you don't bounce back as much.. you get sore and it hangs in for a few days. the kids recover from physical exertion a lot faster..
well.. most of em.. some are so out of shape that it is pathetic.
mostly tho.. these things are genetic.
lazs
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Albuterol is not a steroid.
Just keep in mind Rip that Albuterol is a bronchodilator. If you're using it more than a couple of times a week, your asthma is out of control and you're best bet will be to use an anti-inflammatory, which will be a steroid. I expect that your pulmonary guy will say much the same thing.
FWIW, my son has asthma. We've been dealing with it for the bast fifteen years.
Oh yeah... I should mention.. I have a friend that developed asthma as an adult. On a couple of occasions it's almost killed him.
Be careful. It can be really REALLY serious.
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Turned 63 last october - started Aces High on my 62nd birthday - been a gas. (Semi) retiring thursday (4/10) and looking forward to whatever adventure life throws my way. Physically feelin' good - (aches and pains from an old motorcycle wreck notwithstanding) and think I'm as sharp mentally as ever. I believe age is a state of mind over matter - if you don't mind, it don't matter. Admittedly, there are some things I could do at 20, 30 and 40 that either take me longer, or I won't even attempt - recognizing as Clint said "A man should know his limitations". No problemmo - maturity is acting your age - I'm not 20 and don't expect to act 20 (thank God).
My $.02
Regards,
Optiker
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You youngsters slay me :)
I'm 58 in good health (thank heaven) and my exercise now consists of switching the remote from my right hand to my left.
Voila! And no exercise induced asthma from that workout!
By the way my job is supervising ironmaking operations of a blast furnace. Keeps me moving and always busy.
Keeps me young and depressed :aok
HA :lol
You're just a KID!
I got more then a MONTH on ya!
Dadblamed whippersnappers!
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ya ok except when you consider the alternative. any day that you spend above ground is a good day.
Not so sure about that, i think somewhere the dead are laughin at us poor "living" bastards, saying "They call that life" .... :rolleyes:
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Lol can't help but think of Denis Leary:
Because you're always telling us, "You know, ever cigarette takes six minutes off your life. If you quit now you can live an extra ten years. If you quit now, you can live an extra twenty years." Hey, I got two words for you, OK. Jim Fixx. Remember Jim Fixx? The big, famous jogging guy? Jogged fifteen miles a day. Did a jogging book. Did a jogging video. Dropped out of a heart attack when? When he was ******* jogging, that's when! What do you wanna bet it was two smokers who found the body the next morning and went, "Hey! That's Jim Fixx, isn't it?" "Wow, what a ******* tragedy. Come on, lets go buy some butts."
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Just keep in mind Rip that Albuterol is a bronchodilator. If you're using it more than a couple of times a week, your asthma is out of control and you're best bet will be to use an anti-inflammatory, which will be a steroid. I expect that your pulmonary guy will say much the same thing.
FWIW, my son has asthma. We've been dealing with it for the bast fifteen years.
Oh yeah... I should mention.. I have a friend that developed asthma as an adult. On a couple of occasions it's almost killed him.
Be careful. It can be really REALLY serious.
And that was the diagnosis, Sandman. I passed all the tests they put me through, but I did show mild asthma. They said I've probably always had it but its been in such a mild form that its not affected me, until now. Many things can trigger it, age is one of them.
They put me on Qvar. They said to use it for a few months (until the weather warms up) and if signs of improvement, reduce the twice-day to one-a-day. Also, he said to keep using the albuterol when I needed it.
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Lol can't help but think of Denis Leary:
I'm pretty much a believer in you plan your own life before you come here. Everything that happens to you, everything you wanna learn, everything you want to perfect about yourself, and you design situations to occur to you throughout life that tests that and makes you grow. No God doing it to you, saying when your gonna die, we're all doing it to ourselves, the good and bad. No God is that vindictive.
Why would we do that, when you start an adventure or take on a responsibility you never see how hard it is going to be while your doing it, you only see the prize at the end. Which is dieing just a little smarter and leaving this world and entering the next one just a little bit less of an prettythanghole than when you first came here.
So bungee jump, skydive, and have sex in wild unprotected orgies all you want, cause if you think your going to offset it all by jogging......obviously not.
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I'm 51, 6'1", and 231 llbs. I, too, strength train RIP and have since I was 18. I have had shoulder surgery and now need a shoulder replacement (from a work injury at age 17). The funny thing is, I can STILL weight train, even with the damaged shoulder. I am still the strongest SOB I know (in my mind anyway :)) but I am worried a shoulder replacement will put an end to the kind of training I have done for all these years. Yes, getting old does, indeed, suck. :cry
Oh yeah, my endocrine system is shutting down. Embrace the suck, RIP.
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LMAO Lazs grows between 5'8 and 6'4 depending on the thread.
Amazing.
Mac
*weight varies depending upon the post*
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Lazs bio is intriguing. The only thing missing from the first post and the second was the aliens that examined him 8 years ago :) JK!
Rip, I found out the hard way I had some allergies. After buying the home in 04, I got into the whole home landscaping thing. Suddenly, whammo...feeling spacey/off center then vertigo three times in one day. Got checked out, then referred to an allergist. Bingo..allergic to grass. (And the usual suspects...dustmites, etc)
Every March thru October its an Alavert every morning.
While not as "built" as you are, I've been having a good time reducing the cholesterol via healthier eating habbits, fitness and working out with the trainer. My hypochondriac phase has finally passed...seeing my coworker, a heavy smoker, bad eating habbits have a heart attack at 44 really hit my like a lightning bolt. Not that I was in any danger myself...but a wakeup call to treat the body better. I now view food as a fuel and give it only the best :)
Good luck with the diagnosis. One thing I am noticing about getting older...the recovery time after working out. Yeouch! Its a steady diet of ibuprofen and IcyHot on those day after sessions!
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I always suspected that he was probed....maybe by Aliens.
:D
Mac
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Thats steriods dude..... Hey maybe you'll finally grow some hair :lol
My duaghter was on that for years... asma.
NUTTZ
You aren't too "quick on the draw" are you? It's "Asthma" and Albuterol is NOT a steroid. It's a good thing you know what your daughter was taking! :rock
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Every time I feel like I have to excersize I go lay down on the sofa till it passes .
:lol
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I'm 51, 6'1", and 231 llbs. I, too, strength train RIP and have since I was 18. I have had shoulder surgery and now need a shoulder replacement (from a work injury at age 17). The funny thing is, I can STILL weight train, even with the damaged shoulder. I am still the strongest SOB I know (in my mind anyway :)) but I am worried a shoulder replacement will put an end to the kind of training I have done for all these years. Yes, getting old does, indeed, suck. :cry
Oh yeah, my endocrine system is shutting down. Embrace the suck, RIP.
Our history is similar. I started weight training at age 16 and did so sporadically until I was 35, at which time I have never stopped for longer than 2 weeks (up until last summer, took 2 months off due to injury). I've had one shoulder operated on, and the other has arthritis, but about 7 years ago (after my shoulder operation) I gave up any Military Press exercise that involved lifting weight OVER my head. The shoulder doc told me that the human body is not engineered to do that well, and advise I give it up. I use Glucosamine today to keep going, and yeah, there's alittle pain involved but nothing serious. Its tough to "lighten down" after setting so many goals over the years and hitting them. I'm going to continue to lift until I die, even if its 1 lb. :) Good luck on your excercise routine and impending surgery Druss.
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mac.. you ankle humper.. when did I ever say I was anything but a little over six feet tall? weight? I range from 180 to almost 200 180 being the weight I like most.
sheesh.. lot's of folks on this board have met me. There is even a pic or two floating around.
What about you mac? are you really 5'6" and 250 lbs?
lazs
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I remember you older guys suggestioning Glucosamine to us. What brand do you buy?
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Ripsnort, I'd take anything asthma-related very seriously, because it's subsequent development seems to be unpredictable. If you get a sensitivity... it can get away from you. It can be a terrifying thing so pay attention.
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I remember you older guys suggestioning Glucosamine to us. What brand do you buy?
Member's Mark Glucosamine 1500 mg.
Rgr Gunther. I'll keep it in check hopefully.
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Member's Mark Glucosamine here too RIP. Say, what about this change from Chondroitin to MSM with the Glucosamine? I'm trying out the Glucosimine w/MSM instead of tried and true Glucosimine w/Chondroitin this go around. I also have stopped ALL over-the-head lifting. The human body was not designed for stresses THAT causes.
I have always been amazed by the sheer brute stength of the traps and the calves. Isn't it a wonder how your hands and forearms will fatigue and fail (without wrist straps) LONG before your traps even get thoroughly worked? Or how your calves can handle such vast workloads during calf raises? Amazing! My fav lift has been the flat bench press for 25 years. I love this lift, followed by incline bench, followed by inclined dumbell flys. I utterly despise the biceps curl in its various forms even though I've always done them. I hate the low weight ceiling of curls whereas the press seems to be almost unlimited. In the past 7 years, I've settled on particular a 5X5 split routine I developed over the years. I alternate it occasionally with two others that I throw in for the "shock to the system" value.
I too will not stop with the weights until the day I GET stopped. It is not a sport or a hobby to me, it is a lifestyle choice.
BTW, have I mentioned that Cheyenne, for all its great qualities, has the worst medical practitioners on this planet? It's true. I'm getting a second opinion from an endocrinologist in Ft. Collins, Colorado to check on my endo here. A personal question: do you prefer men doctors or women doctors or no preference? Myself, after seeing so many horrible, horrible male doctors in Cheyenne and elsewhere, I actually prefer women doctors these days.
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Member's Mark Glucosamine here too RIP. Say, what about this change from Chondroitin to MSM with the Glucosamine? I'm trying out the Glucosimine w/MSM instead of tried and true Glucosimine w/Chondroitin this go around. I also have stopped ALL over-the-head lifting. The human body was not designed for stresses THAT causes.
I have always been amazed by the sheer brute stength of the traps and the calves. Isn't it a wonder how your hands and forearms will fatigue and fail (without wrist straps) LONG before your traps even get thoroughly worked? Or how your calves can handle such vast workloads during calf raises? Amazing! My fav lift has been the flat bench press for 25 years. I love this lift, followed by incline bench, followed by inclined dumbell flys. I utterly despise the biceps curl in its various forms even though I've always done them. I hate the low weight ceiling of curls whereas the press seems to be almost unlimited. In the past 7 years, I've settled on particular a 5X5 split routine I developed over the years. I alternate it occasionally with two others that I throw in for the "shock to the system" value.
I too will not stop with the weights until the day I GET stopped. It is not a sport or a hobby to me, it is a lifestyle choice.
BTW, have I mentioned that Cheyenne, for all its great qualities, has the worst medical practitioners on this planet? It's true. I'm getting a second opinion from an endocrinologist in Ft. Collins, Colorado to check on my endo here. A personal question: do you prefer men doctors or women doctors or no preference? Myself, after seeing so many horrible, horrible male doctors in Cheyenne and elsewhere, I actually prefer women doctors these days.
Holy Crist...I think I've met my double! :O FYI, I think the reason the calfs and forearms hold up and fatigue less is the fact that they are a denser muscle group. Flat bench is also my fav exercise, and I've given up on banging biceps about 2 years ago. I still work them, just not excessively. I have the same routine regarding muscle groups but change the individual excercises for each group around for the "shock" value. Day 1 is Chest and Triceps, Day 2 is Legs, lower back. Day 3 is upper back and biceps. 400 crunch situps every work out. It takes about 1.5 hours to do my routine, 4 days a week. I walk alot too, gave up running due to stress on the knees.
I once stopped in Cheyenne on a family vacation overnight, the hotel we were at actually had a free-weight gym, which amazed me because most hotels won't carry free-weights due to the possibility of lawsuits. Anyway, I was about 20 min into my workout in Cheyenne and couldn't figure out why my butt was dragging....then I realized I was at 6,000+ altitude! :)
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Has Nilsen posted here yet
That geezer should be now past 30! :rofl
The old folk homes a calling :devil