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General Forums => Custom Skins => Topic started by: Serenity on April 03, 2008, 11:10:30 PM
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Well, here is the original profile:
(http://www.michael-reimer.com/CFS2/CFS2_Profiles/ETO_AXIS_Luftwaffe_JG53-Dateien/Messerschmitt%2520Bf%2520109F-2_400x150.jpg)
Here is my aircraft, this is my first Bf-109 to be submitted. Im thinking of toning back the splotches on the nose, but Ill see what you all think. (Notes: I am aware I did not create exit points for the shell casings. That has been fixed, and I am simply too lazy to get more screenshots until the list of 100 things ive done wrong comes in)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss6-4.jpg)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss9-3.jpg)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss10-2.jpg)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss11-1.jpg)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss12-1.jpg)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss16.jpg)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss17.jpg)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss18.jpg)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss19.jpg)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss20.jpg)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss21.jpg)
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Camo doesn't line up on the left flap, mate.
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I'm no expert on LW aircraft, but this looks like a nice start. You're missing the yellow triangle (is that a fuel type warning decal?) on the side of the fuselage.
Also, I'd spend a lot more time on the mottling and try to come closer to the look of the profile. The profile's mottles have more variation in darkness - some are entirely fainter, some are more faint at their edges and get darker towards the middle. Plus there more of them than you've done.
Always liked those yellow-nosed 109s.
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I can't see anything on the underside. You should roll the plane over into sunlight for those shots.
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The "2" on the right side is reversed. Is that a mirroring issue?
Regards,
Hammer
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Good call, Moot, give us some better shots of the underside.
Good spotting, Hammer.
I'd also suggest a slight blending of the two camo colours. Nothing stupid, don't go and get a big blur tool and smudge it to hell and back... Just a slight air-brush overlap distortion. The paint will look a little more realistic that way
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Camo doesn't line up on the left flap, mate.
Thats how it is in the default 109F. I copied that since I couldnt find any other references as to the upper-wing cammo.
Will work on all of those other things tomorrow. Thanks all!
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What is your reference for that? I've never seen that.
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Upper wing camo placement does look odd.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/psbellamy/1604894018/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/psbellamy/1604903656/
Over all, looks like a very nice start.
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What is your reference for that? I've never seen that.
Reference for what?
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Upper wing camo placement does look odd.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/psbellamy/1604894018/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/psbellamy/1604903656/
Over all, looks like a very nice start.
You DO know those are Bouchons, right?
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Happy to see another JG53 bird being skinned. Though the 15mm in the F-2 is a little unsettleing at first. It take alot more hits to damage your foes that the 20mm, but you get used to it.
Yep, sure is nice to see that 'Pik-As' emblem on the side :aok
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Though the 15mm in the F-2 is a little unsettleing at first.
F-2 had 15mm? Did you mean MG 151?
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Update:
Disregard lack of yellow triangle. Its already been fixed, just not photoed. Ive redone the mottling from scratch, changed the lower half of the flap to match the upper, and fixed the reversed '2'.
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss6-5.jpg)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss7-3.jpg)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss8-4.jpg)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss9-4.jpg)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss11-2.jpg)
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Nope Bf.109F-2 had a spinner mounted 15mm and 2 cowl mounted 7mm. Not kidding about that. It is why alot of aces like Galland wanted to keep their old Emils up and running. :D
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Nope Bf.109F-2 had a spinner mounted 15mm and 2 cowl mounted 7mm. Not kidding about that. It is why alot of aces like Galland wanted to keep their old Emils up and running. :D
Hmm. Didnt know that! Well, this beautiful bird will have the MG 151 JUST for YOU! :D
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IIRC it was designated MG 151/15
The F4 received the upgrade to the MG 151/20
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IIRC it was designated MG 151/15
The F4 received the upgrade to the MG 151/20
How do you like the updated skin? Good enough to submit?
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Alright, here is the final release. Assuming there are no more problems I will submit monday, 4-7-08, at 1500 Hawaii time.
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss6-7.jpg)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss7-5.jpg)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss8-6.jpg)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss9-6.jpg)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss10-3.jpg)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss11-4.jpg)
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Only things I can pick at a glance are that your exhaust stains are wrapping underneath the fuselage. Erase the bottom section of it on the fuselage aft of the wing-root line and you should be fine.
That, and your fuel markers do not have any fuel markings. C3 or B4 or whatever was necessary.
You need to reverse the 'Nicht betreten' on the right radiator flap section, it is mirrored by the skin when it wraps.
Only the right side does this, so just horizontally flip it and you'll be good to go.
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Also, your elevator detail has no dimension.
If you're going for the effect that those markings on the elevator surfaces produce you need to shade the insides of the lines on one side in black and the other in white.
Are you going to do the same for the ailerons? The F model had fabric ailerons so I suspect you should need to.
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Regarding the exhaust stains, the way you have them is that they touch the wing roots. Only the wings have no exhaust stains on them.
Need to add a little but of it to the wing roots to match the fuselage where they meet, or shift the fuselage exhaust up a bit so it doesn't touch the wing roots.
I suggest the first option.
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Alright. Im about to run to school, but Ill fix it when I get home.
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Whatever you decide to do with it, you need to fix the pixels that are causing this:
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss9-6.jpg)
Because that isn't logical. I had the same problem with dirt wrapping on my 109K, it's just a matter of adjusting your perspective on where the 'upper' half of the fuselage ends.
Easy fix, so it's no big deal.
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Whatever you decide to do with it, you need to fix the pixels that are causing this:
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss9-6.jpg)
Because that isn't logical. I had the same problem with dirt wrapping on my 109K, it's just a matter of adjusting your perspective on where the 'upper' half of the fuselage ends.
Easy fix, so it's no big deal.
Its not oil. Its the mottling just trailing-edge of the wing. I fixed it the first time I made the splotches, but since I redid them all from scratch, I need to do it again. Its a two-second fix of just erasing a little off of the bottom of the splotch.
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Heres the bird after the modifications. The color hasnt changed. The ONLY thing ive touched is the elevator and aileron lines, as well as fixing the line under the fuselage. I say that because the colors look different to me on this computer, so they might look different to you all as well.
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss6-9.jpg)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss7-7.jpg)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss8-8.jpg)
(http://i217.photobucket.com/albums/cc74/Serene_One/ahss9-8.jpg)
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I don't know... the frame lines on the rudder now look like straight black. Maybe a layer got switched or not turned off?
Regards,
Hammer
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I don't know... the frame lines on the rudder now look like straight black. Maybe a layer got switched or not turned off?
Regards,
Hammer
I accidentally bumped opacity on that layer back up to 100. Its fixed though, back to what it was before.
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Looks great so far....
I cn't wait to get my paws on that skin. :aok
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I also think that the black in your underwing crosses is a little too soft.
Good job on not making it black-as-night but making it a little darker would probably look a little better.
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I also think that the black in your underwing crosses is a little too soft.
Good job on not making it black-as-night but making it a little darker would probably look a little better.
Ouch. There were no responses for so long, I thought you all forgot about her, so I submitted yesterday :(
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Don't worry bro, She looks good to me man. I like it with the crosses lightened. I can not wait to se it in game.
Kudos on a skin well done.
Also, Serenity did you get the PM I sent ya?
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Don't stress about it man, if that's the only thing you missed you're in good shape. :salute