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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: rogerdee on April 06, 2008, 07:49:17 PM
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ok i was on tonight and me and a few other told the same player
his connection was bad and he was warping through buildings trees the ground everything.
All he did was laugh as said he dont care.fair enough its his money
but the annoying thing is he couldnt hardly be shot down,but managed to hit us time and time again with
bombs and guns.
now this isnt fair play for others,when hes dead in your sights then warps 2k away or through the ground.
i dont know what could be done but it takes away from the fun when someone is using this to there advantage.
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Agree, I wish HT would auto boot guys with terrible connections.
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LOL there goes half of the players. :)
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good boot half...thatll make room in the arenas :D
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LOL there goes half of the players. :)
LOL...Oh well :D
but I mean terrible connections, not the occasional warpers
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I had a similar situation with a guy who is apparently notorious for it..
he came jerking and twitching past me head on, he was flipping and flopping and popping around so bad I didn't even bother firing a shot..
about half a second after he passed me I hear hits and I have an oil leak..
apparently he HOd me but was lagging so bad I didnt even see him shoot on my end, also (apparently) this is the usual case with this individual.
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It's even more fun when you are on a guys six and as soon as you open up he warps behind you and kills you with 1 burst. That's my favorite for sure.
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ok i was on tonight and me and a few other told the same player
his connection was bad and he was warping through buildings trees the ground everything.
All he did was laugh as said he dont care.fair enough its his money
but the annoying thing is he couldnt hardly be shot down,but managed to hit us time and time again with
bombs and guns.
now this isnt fair play for others,when hes dead in your sights then warps 2k away or through the ground.
i dont know what could be done but it takes away from the fun when someone is using this to there advantage.
now i'm curious about something......i've been told what when a player is warping, be it from his attempts at causing it himslef, or from a bad connection, that we all appear to warp to him.....it would seem that ths would make it harder for him too. is this true?
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now i'm curious about something......i've been told what when a player is warping, be it from his attempts at causing it himslef, or from a bad connection, that we all appear to warp to him.....it would seem that ths would make it harder for him too. is this true?
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Yes.
However this doesn't bother him when he is doing bomber or jabo runs. While everyone around him may warp into subspace and back 4 times a second, the terrain and all objects do not move at all. Pretty easy for him to strafe buildings or pork fields while basically being uninterceptable.
I once came across such a player in EW. I tried to protect town from a horde, but of course I couldn't stop him. When bringing up the subject on open channel I was told by his comrades to suck it up - "He has a crappy line an it's his 15$". :rolleyes:
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Interesting.
I was playing COD4 online a few weeks ago. I got booted from the server once. Apparently the game has a mechanism that monitors your ping and if it falls below some threshold you are booted from the server, probably to prevent silliness like described here in AH2.
I'd say I'm surprised AH2 doesn't implement something like this, but I'm not. We wouldn't want to offend or alienate any of our players, would we?
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I've been playing for a little over a year now and I never warped in the past. I had to get a new and better computer and then started warping. I have cable internet its vary fast. My framerate has never been better but I was still warping. Not all warpers "use" it. I've got most of my settings tweaked now to where I don't warp any longer but I do still get the occasional "jump". So to all I fight, if you see me warp I am sorry and please let me know.
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Interesting.
I was playing COD4 online a few weeks ago. I got booted from the server once. Apparently the game has a mechanism that monitors your ping and if it falls below some threshold you are booted from the server, probably to prevent silliness like described here in AH2.
I'd say I'm surprised AH2 doesn't implement something like this, but I'm not. We wouldn't want to offend or alienate any of our players, would we?
Never played COD... never interested me. Do you pay a monthly fee to play or is it a game you can play offline as well as online.
Nevermind... I just checked. Not even close to Ah. COD you buy a game and you have the option to play online. They can boot you because you don't pay to play online. AH you pay to play online with the option to play offline. AH doesn't boot because you paid to be here.
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If you spot extremely bad warping, like warping all over the sky, totally disappearing from your view, etc., my opinion is that you should film it and send it to HTC so that they can check it out.
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If you spot really suspicious warping (like the guy warps when people are on him, yet seems to be non warpy when he is on someone else's trail...
Just to clearify, here is a note off of the trainers site:
One common scenario players find is that they see a distant enemy plane flying on a steady course. If that enemy plane has a shoddy connection, it will not show when they are not maneuvering. As the player closes in to attack, the enemy reacts to the attack and starts maneuvering. Also at this time, the attacker is within range for the most frequent updates. Suddenly due to the combination of these factors, the enemey plane begins to warp. This is often interpreted by players as intentional warping. In fact the enemey player in many cases are not even aware they have a problem connection, and are doing nothing to intentional to cause it. What has happened is that the combination of the enemey initiating hard maneuvers, along with the need for frequent positional updates for smooth display at close range, had caused their poor connection to become appearent all at once
That said, just last night, I filmed an encounter where a player was maneuvering and not warping until I got on their 6. Then they blink warped all over the place. Half a minute later they came back to pick me, and did not warp in a turning fight from 10K to the deck. I'll allow the benefit of the doubt, but if I see it again from that same player, I will send in the films.
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Film it.
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I don't know what it is, but the last 2 days I had huge jumps in time delay also...
I had a collision (appearantly ...) but never saw a collision on my screen,
30 sec. later, a guy who was 6K away from me exploded (I saw the explosion), and I got granted the kill (without even firing a shot)
I can't blame them for being mad, but it's not my fault...
I'm on now for two weeks, free trial ended friday, I payed, and then these probs began.
Could it be the skins comming in, causing that? They started to come in from the moment I started playing after I payed.
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This also happens in gv's. Twice now, in the last month or so, I'd have the bad guy lined up in my sights. Every time I shot, he warped enough to dodge the shell. I would shoot again, he would warp again. I'd shoot again, he's warp again. Finally someone dropped an egg on him. :devil
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If I see really bad warping I'll stay clear now. If I get close to someone warping, say on their 6, they almost always warp backwards through my 38. Mutants I tell you MUTANTS :P
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there is a fix if you are the one warping and you know it's not your internet.
Right click "My Computer" and click properties. Under "See Also", it should say "Performance". Click on it. Under "Tasks", there should be "Adjust Power Settings". Click on it. If the box saying "High Performance" is not checked, bulleted, etc, you've found your problem.
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for sure, without a doubt the majority of warping is just a poor connection, and nothing more..
but there are some instances ive come across that are just hard to explain, like watching a con fly around in a furball.. with NO warping whatsoever, then when someone gets on his 6 he starts warping all over the place, then is fine and dandy again.. usually when this happens range VOX explodes with "look at this &#$&!!!"
Ive seen a good film someone posted of a 110, coming up dead 6 on some 17s... 2.0, 1.0... the wazzam.. he beginz warping all over the place, THE ENTIRE TIME hes scoring hits on the bombers, shooting on down and getting another smoking and missing parts.... after he warps out of gun range, hes fine again.
that sticks out as probably the best example of, lets call it "selective warping" ive ever seen.
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Just to clearify, here is a note off of the trainers site:That said, just last night, I filmed an encounter where a player was maneuvering and not warping until I got on their 6. Then they blink warped all over the place. Half a minute later they came back to pick me, and did not warp in a turning fight from 10K to the deck. I'll allow the benefit of the doubt, but if I see it again from that same player, I will send in the films.
I suggest sending a film to HTC as well.
Warping usually does not provide a convenience to the pilot that's warping.
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Thing is, if HTC kicks all with bad connection, there goes 50% of there ppl, and they lose 50% of there ppl, there goes 50% of the money going into keeping HTC running
-BigBOBCH
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Thing is, if HTC kicks all with bad connection, there goes 50% of there ppl, and they lose 50% of there ppl, there goes 50% of the money going into keeping HTC running
-BigBOBCH
Bs it's not 50% of the people. It is a select few who do this.
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there is a fix if you are the one warping and you know it's not your internet.
Right click "My Computer" and click properties. Under "See Also", it should say "Performance". Click on it. Under "Tasks", there should be "Adjust Power Settings". Click on it. If the box saying "High Performance" is not checked, bulleted, etc, you've found your problem.
i just went looking in mine..i don't have a "see other" choice, or a high performance choice anywhere when i right click my computer and go to properties.......
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Thing is, if HTC kicks all with bad connection, there goes 50% of there ppl, and they lose 50% of there ppl, there goes 50% of the money going into keeping HTC running
-BigBOBCH
not really, because these guys will just try to log back in with better connections. in the mean-time, there'll probably be good fights to be had.
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It's all Captain Kirks fault, He's beaming them up and dropping them on our six.
But really, If the warping player is supposed to also see those around him warping, then there are time that he would be seeing 20+ warping planes. I've had a bad connection a few times where I've been told I was warping, but I stayed in formation with those I was with, without seeing any warping. How is that explained?
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Agree, I wish HT would auto boot guys with terrible connections.
There is a particular server I play DoD on and they have a filter in place that prevents those with pings of over 500ms from joining. The result is a relatively lag free affair, wish something similiar could be used in AH.
ack-ack
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there is a fix if you are the one warping and you know it's not your internet.
Right click "My Computer" and click properties. Under "See Also", it should say "Performance". Click on it. Under "Tasks", there should be "Adjust Power Settings". Click on it. If the box saying "High Performance" is not checked, bulleted, etc, you've found your problem.
Found it, thnx :aok
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This also happens in gv's. Twice now, in the last month or so, I'd have the bad guy lined up in my sights. Every time I shot, he warped enough to dodge the shell. I would shoot again, he would warp again. I'd shoot again, he's warp again. Finally someone dropped an egg on him. :devil
Mmmm, gunnrun tonight.
My computer doesnt have a 'see also' tab...
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Mmmm, gunnrun tonight.
My computer doesnt have a 'see also' tab...
Mine doesn't either. If I click my computer/properties, it gives me the same choices that you see under control panel/system
All the Best...
Jay
awDoc1
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good boot half...thatll make room in the arenas :D
Then we can go back to a singel arena right?? :lol
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Spazz
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Never played COD... never interested me. Do you pay a monthly fee to play or is it a game you can play offline as well as online.
Nevermind... I just checked. Not even close to Ah. COD you buy a game and you have the option to play online. They can boot you because you don't pay to play online. AH you pay to play online with the option to play offline. AH doesn't boot because you paid to be here.
I don't see how 'paying' to play AH2 should make any difference whatsoever.
AH2 is, essentially, an online game only. I think your argument makes the point opposite to the one you think it does. In AH2 you should be REQUIRED to have a decent connection or else get booted. This is a game that relies upon the online player. A good connection should be a prerequisite to playing the game, in the same way a good graphics card is required for many offline games.
Why is it that folks always feel that because they pay a subscription to play, AH2 must always appeal to the lowest common denominator? Why would you NOT want to enforce some sort of connection requirement on a game where every plane and GV in the game is governed by a connection?
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Yes.
However this doesn't bother him when he is doing bomber or jabo runs. While everyone around him may warp into subspace and back 4 times a second, the terrain and all objects do not move at all. Pretty easy for him to strafe buildings or pork fields while basically being uninterceptable.
I once came across such a player in EW. I tried to protect town from a horde, but of course I couldn't stop him. When bringing up the subject on open channel I was told by his comrades to suck it up - "He has a crappy line an it's his 15$". :rolleyes:
All I can say is when I had a bad warping problem (which by the way wasnt connection related I found out later) was as difficult for me as it was on them. I also found that my bombing calibretion was always off as well
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See Rule #8
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Mine doesn't either. If I click my computer/properties, it gives me the same choices that you see under control panel/system
All the Best...
Jay
awDoc1
with Windows XP R/click my computer, properties, advanced tab, performance setting, then check the "adjust for best performence"
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with Windows XP R/click my computer, properties, advanced tab, performance setting, then check the "adjust for best performence"
that has nothing to do with your network connection..
its the settings for the windows graphics.
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ok i was on tonight and me and a few other told the same player
his connection was bad and he was warping through buildings trees the ground everything.
All he did was laugh as said he dont care.fair enough its his money
but the annoying thing is he couldnt hardly be shot down,but managed to hit us time and time again with
bombs and guns.
now this isnt fair play for others,when hes dead in your sights then warps 2k away or through the ground.
i dont know what could be done but it takes away from the fun when someone is using this to there advantage.
He's been doing it since he started playing.
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All I can say is when I had a bad warping problem (which by the way wasnt connection related I found out later) was as difficult for me as it was on them. I also found that my bombing calibretion was always off as well
But this guy has no problems when he's on someone's 6. If you fly EW or MW you know who this person is
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Few warpy players but overall, the lag seems to be less sever
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But this guy has no problems when he's on someone's 6. If you fly EW or MW you know who this person is
I haven't warped since I fixed the problem, read my post. Ive had u in my gunsights dead to rights more than once when I warped in front of you . The warp didn't seem to affect your Hurricane in the Ho :rock
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ive seen this on multiple occasions. this issue is never going to be fixed. :furious
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with Windows XP R/click my computer, properties, advanced tab, performance setting, then check the "adjust for best performence"
I know this Chris and thanks but I was merely trying to state that his instructions weren't correct for what the majority of users will see. I know, I should have stated such. :(
All the Best...
Jay
awDoc1
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See Rules #4, #5
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I've noticed the weird warping from some players also. It usually only happens when you get on there 6 as was stated above. Has anyone filmed these instances and sent them in to HT?
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I've noticed the weird warping from some players also. It usually only happens when you get on there 6 as was stated above. Has anyone filmed these instances and sent them in to HT?
i filmed one.....was scouting looiking for the cause of a bardar in one of our sectors...figured a VB was beng bombed, so i was around 10k alt.........got there, spotted a pony low...like he was de-acking(this was about 7 months ago), so i did a foward slip to bleed off my alt without overspeeding(was in 38J). at about 5k alt, i leveled off, and watched his pattern, then dropped so i'd end up on his 6 as he climbed back from a run......put a few rounds in him, and he ran(of course) out over the water, but he didn't have enough alt to pull out of guns range. we were so low to the water, we were leaving wakes, and then......just as i squeezed the trigger, he dissappeared, so i climbed up, thinking he hit. wrong.....he suddenly re-appeared 3k behind me going the other way, truning to come back my way.........i got back to him, and he did one or two "tiny" warps....but in the end i did get him. dunno wether it was delibret, or his system sucked though.
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