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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: HighTone on July 13, 2008, 12:19:25 AM
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Don't ask me to use the search function on this one because I already have.
It is time we get the B-29. Perk it out somewhere in the 500 point range. No NUKE. NO Formation.
:rock
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Its better than the other B29 post. I also agree on no nuke or formation and yes on perks.
BUT!
1)the wingspan is huge, would not fit in Bomber hangers and making them larger would mean easier targets.
2) napalm in the game would make framerates 10 times worse than with a smoke round...
3) be almost impossible or uncommon for a fighter to engage it at high alt.
sorry but if we EVER get it it wont be for at least another 5 years.
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No way 500 perkies if we dont get a formation. I wouldn't even pay 10 perks for it if we didn't get a formation.
p.s. The B-29 wasn't all that great you know? Only thing it could do was fly high and drop lots of bombs... Most people in bombers wont try to climb to 30,000 feet anyways. :rolleyes:
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No way 500 perkies if we dont get a formation. I wouldn't even pay 10 perks for it if we didn't get a formation.
p.s. The B-29 wasn't all that great you know? Only thing it could do was fly high and drop lots of bombs... Most people in bombers wont try to climb to 30,000 feet anyways. :rolleyes:
youd be suprised...
and it also had good armor and armorment.
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From what I recall, the armour was as bad on it as the B-24.
If a B-24's #3 engine catchs fire or goes out, your gonna go down because you lost hydraulic pressure (and electricity I think)
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Here we go again.
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Don't ask me to use the search function on this one because I already have.
It is time we get the B-29. Perk it out somewhere in the 500 point range. No NUKE. NO Formation.
:rock
500 points? At least give a formation, a B-29 isn't like a normal bomber its almost twice the size, its gonna get spotted. It be better making it 80 perks, whats the difference? The plane goes around 200-250mph, its slow at 20k alt, its a normal bomber with more payload, besides most noobs can't aim.
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the new filter system which changes bullpoop to bullpoop and boink to boink etc. Should change Superfortress, Super Fortress, B-29 and B29 to "fluffy bunnies" and nuke, nook or atomic bomb to carrots.
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Don't ask me to use the search function on this one because I already have.
It is time we get the Fluffy Bunnies. Perk it out somewhere in the 500 point range. No CARROTS. NO Formation.
:rock
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the new filter system which changes bullpoop to bullpoop and boink to boink etc. Should change Superfortress, Super Fortress, B-29 and B29 to "fluffy bunnies" and nuke, nook or atomic bomb to carrots.
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:rofl
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p.s. The B-29 wasn't all that great you know? Only thing it could do was fly high and drop lots of bombs...
Wasn't that what it was designed to do in the first place???? :huh
:rofl
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the new filter system which changes bullpoop to bullpoop and boink to boink etc. Should change Superfortress, Super Fortress, B-29 and B29 to "fluffy bunnies" and nuke, nook or atomic bomb to carrots.
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:rofl
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From what I recall, the armour was as bad on it as the B-24.
If a B-24's #3 engine catchs fire or goes out, your gonna go down because you lost hydraulic pressure (and electricity I think)
Lift makes the airplane fly, not hydraulic pressure. The B-24 will fly fine (at reasonable weights) with any one of the four engines out (I've flown it on 2 engines in training). The #3 engine does have the engine driven hydraulic pump however there is both an electric auxiliary and a manual backup hydraulic pump that will let you get the gear and flaps down and give you some pressure for the brakes. As far as electrical power, there is a generator on each of the engines.
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Lift makes the airplane fly, not hydraulic pressure. The B-24 will fly fine (at reasonable weights) with any one of the four engines out (I've flown it on 2 engines in training). The #3 engine does have the engine driven hydraulic pump however there is both an electric auxiliary and a manual backup hydraulic pump that will let you get the gear and flaps down and give you some pressure for the brakes. As far as electrical power, there is a generator on each of the engines.
Yes, but if you cannot control the B-24 at high alts with cross-winds, where are you going to go? You got no trim. You got no control, it would be very easy to lose control of your plane. A different engine (dont know which one) definately made Electricity go out. May have been the #3 engine.
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Only thing it could do was fly high and drop lots of bombs
im with ya, get the La outta here to, the only thing it can do is fight :D *sarcasm*
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Yes, but if you cannot control the B-24 at high alts with cross-winds, where are you going to go? You got no trim. You got no control, it would be very easy to lose control of your plane. A different engine (dont know which one) definately made Electricity go out. May have been the #3 engine.
The vast majority of WWII aircraft had mechanically controlled flight surfaces, not electric/hydrolic ones. Even in Korea I think the MiG15 had mechanically controlled flight surfaces (wires & cables). Not sure about the B24, though.
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im with ya, get the La outta here to, the only thing it can do is fight :D *sarcasm*
Might as well get the Zero and Spits out too, they can only out turn everyone :lol *sarcasm as well*
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Yes, but if you cannot control the B-24 at high alts with cross-winds, where are you going to go? You got no trim. You got no control, it would be very easy to lose control of your plane. A different engine (dont know which one) definately made Electricity go out. May have been the #3 engine.
You obviously have no experience flying the real airplane, you're statements are incorrect. At altitude the airplane doesn't know or care if there is a "cross wind" ( a term only used during landing and takeoff). The trim is a mechanical cable link from the tab to the trim wheels, the loss of an engine has no effect on trim. You most certainly do have control, the loss of an engine doesn't effect the controls -- it does effect handling and performance but the loss of a single engine on the B-24 isn't that big of a deal unless you're real heavy in which case you may not be able to maintain altitude. Unless you do something really stupid there is no risk of losing control. (And doing something really stupid can result in loss of control with all the engines running) Again, each engine has a generator, the loss of an engine does not mean you lose electrical power.
I am type-rated in the B-24. I have just over 300 hours in the airplane and have flown it on 2 engines during training.
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Don't ask me to use the search function on this one because I already have.
It is time we get the B-29. Perk it out somewhere in the 500 point range. No NUKE. NO Formation.
:rock
God just killed another kitten. :(
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What is this passion with the B29? It just another big lumbering target! Why, honestly, do people fell we need this plane added?
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What is this passion with the B29? It just another big lumbering target! Why, honestly, do people fell we need this plane added?
:salute
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God just killed another kitten. :(
God doesn't kill kittens, you on the other hand probably do.
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What is this passion with the B29? It just another big lumbering target! Why, honestly, do people fell we need this plane added?
I wonder the same thing about the Anti-B29'ers :salute
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What is this passion with the B29? It just another big lumbering target! Why, honestly, do people fell we need this plane added?
Bigger, Better, Faster and they figure it will give them an advantage.............
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I wonder the same thing about the Anti-B29'ers :salute
well im not an ANTI- b29, but i get annoyed with the multiple threads 'bout em.
the plane will not bring that much to the game because we already have decent High alt bombers, plus its pointless to have a plane that can go higher than any others, wheres the fun in that :cool:
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do you want the B29 for its bombing capability (doubt it), or the n00k (highly likely)?
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back in the old days, say 2000,2001,2002, you used to be able to pilot a bomber and fire all weapons at the same time
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back in the old days, say 2000,2001,2002, you used to be able to pilot a bomber and fire all weapons at the same time
Bearing3?!?!?! :O :O
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hi redlegs I thought you quit?????????? :t
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You obviously have no experience flying the real airplane, you're statements are incorrect. At altitude the airplane doesn't know or care if there is a "cross wind" ( a term only used during landing and takeoff). The trim is a mechanical cable link from the tab to the trim wheels, the loss of an engine has no effect on trim. You most certainly do have control, the loss of an engine doesn't effect the controls -- it does effect handling and performance but the loss of a single engine on the B-24 isn't that big of a deal unless you're real heavy in which case you may not be able to maintain altitude. Unless you do something really stupid there is no risk of losing control. (And doing something really stupid can result in loss of control with all the engines running) Again, each engine has a generator, the loss of an engine does not mean you lose electrical power.
I am type-rated in the B-24. I have just over 300 hours in the airplane and have flown it on 2 engines during training.
B-24's #3 engine loss made you go down. That I know for a fact, I dont know exactly what did it, but you lost control when that engine was knocked out... I'll go dig up some quotes...
Where's Widewing when ya need him? He could confirm this. The B-24 wasn't safe at all compared to the B-17. :aok
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B-24's #3 engine loss made you go down. That I know for a fact, I dont know exactly what did it, but you lost control when that engine was knocked out... I'll go dig up some quotes...
Where's Widewing when ya need him? He could confirm this. The B-24 wasn't safe at all compared to the B-17. :aok
Maybe you don't understand. COL has flown most of the Collings foundations aircraft , and many other vintage rides. He is a real pilot who has flown a lot of hours in a real b24. I think I would listen to what he has to say on the subject, and not guess. :aok
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do you want the B29 for its bombing capability (doubt it), or the n00k (highly likely)?
I stated in the original post that I didn't want the Nuke.
So do you respond to these post because you know what your talking about (doubt it) or because in real life your not that funny and you think you are here (highly likely)?
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Maybe you don't understand. COL has flown most of the Collings foundations aircraft , and many other vintage rides. He is a real pilot who has flown a lot of hours in a real b24. I think I would listen to what he has to say on the subject, and not guess. :aok
Yes, but I dont think he has ever had his #3 engine shot out by a German plane. :aok
Look, I'd rather be proven wrong by WideWing or somebody with an actual quote. I'm still digging up my book on B-24s from my little "Library" I dont think that the fact that he flew it means anything other than that alone.
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I stated in the original post that I didn't want the Nuke.
So do you respond to these post because you know what your talking about (doubt it) or because in real life your not that funny and you think you are here (highly likely)?
I sense an argument about to occur.....
well, might as well get prepared.
*sets up muiltiple lawn chairs*
*sets up popcorn machine*
*sets up cooler*
*sets up anti-insult shield*
anyone want to bring some brewskis or sodas for the squeakers?
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anyone want to bring some brewskis or sodas for the squeakers?
Can I just drink underage? :D ;)
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I stated in the original post that I didn't want the Nuke.
haha thats what they all say
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:lol
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The fact that we don't have a B-29, and possibly never will, is all Furball's fault :mad:
Really, if you were HTC, would YOU want to get rid of the comedy gold every B-29 thread brings? That cartoon gets me every time :D
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Yes, but I dont think he has ever had his #3 engine shot out by a German plane. :aok
Look, I'd rather be proven wrong by WideWing or somebody with an actual quote. I'm still digging up my book on B-24s from my little "Library" I dont think that the fact that he flew it means anything other than that alone.
Personally I think I'd take the advise of of the mechanics about a B24 from someone who has actually flown one over a "quote" or a "library" or a book probably written or quoted by someone who has probably never even climbed aboard one. But thats just me I guess. Good luck with your library card. :aok
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here goes our weekly B29 thread.
From what I've read the B29 was made for high alt bombing, but since it had no precision at all, they had to use it for mid alt napalm bombing, which doesn't require any precision, same with the carrot.
We had another thread about failed planes, I would put the B29 in that category.
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God just killed another kitten. :(
God doesn't kill kittens, you on the other hand probably do.
You had better check your facts:
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Bring the fluffy bunnies to aces high!
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a fluffy bunny would never drop his carrot :D
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:lol
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i personally wish it was free with nether nukes or formation then nukes and formation for perks :rock :devil :t :cool: :rolleyes:
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i personally wish it was free with nether nukes or formation then nukes and formation for perks :rock :devil :t :cool: :rolleyes:
he wantz t3h n00kerz!1!1!!!11!
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Mine's better, 5PointOh!
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Seriously, though, this is why I spend countless hours on the BBS...non-stop entertainment! BTW, just because "teh bee-29!!1!1eleventyone!1" is a much larger and faster airplane than it's predecessors were, does not mean it automatically makes you and uber bomber pilot. If anything, pilot rank should determine who gets to fly a B-29, though I'd still rather roam a non-Superfortress sky :aok
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It is so not furball's fault. Why not let a guy make a point ( and quite a funny one at that) ? also adding onto the kittens, don't forget god kills them for subs too :D
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What is this passion with the B29? It just another big lumbering target! Why, honestly, do people fell we need this plane added?
people want alot more rare and esoteric hanger queens...
the 29 is a legit request considering its historical importance and capabilities it would be a good addition..
nuclear capabilities? thats retarded.
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It is so not furball's fault. Why not let a guy make a point ( and quite a funny one at that) ? also adding onto the kittens, don't forget god kills them for subs too :D
Thus the reason I'm keeping this thread alive, lest another sub request appears. :uhoh
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I am going to campaign for a fluffy bunny filter until it is added.
That is one of my best ideas ever, and i wasn't even drunk at the time.
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The B29 people need to organize!
Yes, just like Hoffa.... This whole darn wishlist is stupid and nothing gets wished in anyways.............
But if 100 paying customers do not pay for a tour and start sending emails to HTC about the lack of B29 and how that lack has made this paying customer lose love for the game. The loss of 1500.00 USD that tour might give Dale and the rest of the crew a reason to rethink the no B29 statement.
But until that happens, all we are really doing with these Super Fortress threads, is increasing our post count and taking up some more space on the database.
So how many of you B29 people are willing to give up the game for a month?
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The B29 people need to organize!
Yes, just like Hoffa.... This whole darn wishlist is stupid and nothing gets wished in anyways.............
But if 100 paying customers do not pay for a tour and start sending emails to HTC about the lack of B29 and how that lack has made this paying customer lose love for the game. The loss of 1500.00 USD that tour might give Dale and the rest of the crew a reason to rethink the no B29 statement.
But until that happens, all we are really doing with these Super Fortress threads, is increasing our post count and taking up some more space on the database.
So how many of you B29 people are willing to give up the game for a month?
I want the 29 real bad but why would we have to give up the game for a month?
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In honesty, I don't understand why a heavily perked (500 range even), non-nuclear/napalm, B-29 would be so darned unbalancing.
1. Are there really no fighters that can catch it at MA altitudes?
2. Are there really no fighters that can reach its ceiling?
(These are honest questions - I don't know the answers. Enlighten me :) )
If question 2 is correct... Then why not just put in a little cross wind way up in the air where none of the fighters can reach? Not enough to make flying a B-29 up there impossible, but enough to make bombing from that alt a serious challenge.
If question 1 is correct... First of all there's the 262 and 163, and second of all, people will just have to make their passes count.
I'm seriously doubting there are THAT many people that have enough BOMBER perks to be able to shrug off 500 point perk deductions enough to make this a horrible addition to the plane set.
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fluffy rabbits weren't precise carrot droppers anyway, they were stuck to mid alt carrot bombing because of their myxomatosis.
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I'm seriously doubting there are THAT many people that have enough BOMBER perks to be able to shrug off 500 point perk deductions enough to make this a horrible addition to the plane set.
there are people with over 10,000 bomber points.. because there isnt much to spend them on, 234s are .. meh..
if we got the B29 the skies would be fill with them for a short while, due to people "blowing their load" so to speak.. which is good, because shooting them down will be as fun as flying them IMO.
but no I dont think you will see too many b29-stuka missions IMO..
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there are people with over 10,000 bomber points.. because there isnt much to spend them on, 234s are .. meh..
Well sure, but if you perked it high enough, you could blow through 10,000 points in a night... If you weren't putting yourself in position to risk that, you probably wouldn't be unbalancing a whole lot.
I concede the first month would be rough, but after that... I just don't know how unbalancing it really would be. If anything, maybe it'd help stop dive bombing heavies considering people would want to maximize perks to be able to fly the new fun fluffy bunny.
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I don't think that the untouchable aspect of the b29 is going to be a big factor in the MA. Even for the perk points, who is going to spend and hour climbing that big bird up to 40k anyways? I hear plenty of people say that "who ever gets above 20,000 ft to bomb in the MA?" I don't think people will treat the b29 any different(after the cool and new aspect is over). And anything below 20k (where most MA bombing happens) the b29 is just another big four engine target.
Vudak is right, how is a 500 perk, no formation b29 going to do that much harm?
And just so it doesn't come up....I do not want to see the nuke.
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Is the B-29 any more untouchable than the 163 or 262? Perk it like the 262 and before too long only the best gunners would be able to fly them regularly. If it's never going to be put in the game then please remove the 163 and 262. There are enough superfast pick planes to choose from without them.
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Is the B-29 any more untouchable than the 163 or 262? Perk it like the 262 and before too long only the best gunners would be able to fly them regularly. If it's never going to be put in the game then please remove the 163 and 262. There are enough superfast pick planes to choose from without them.
Why do major noobs always ask for no 262's or 163's? They may be fast but there not really maneuverable. Learn to out fly the 262 with better movement. Ive done it, it gets you torn some times but i still kill em.
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Why do major noobs always ask for no 262's or 163's? They may be fast but there not really maneuverable. Learn to out fly the 262 with better movement. Ive done it, it gets you torn some times but i still kill em.
umm, a 163 is pretty damn maneuverable.. nearly unbeatable 1v1 if its flown by even a half decent stick.
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Why do major noobs always ask for no 262's or 163's? They may be fast but there not really maneuverable. Learn to out fly the 262 with better movement. Ive done it, it gets you torn some times but i still kill em.
I'm not a major noob, i just have similar skills. I have killed 262s as well but only because they screwed up. A smart 262 pilot is a very tough kill.
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I'm not a major noob, i just have similar skills. I have killed 262s as well but only because they screwed up. A smart 262 pilot is a very tough kill.
Then don't screw with the 262 pilot. 163 is okay, alot of people can kill it, like i said don't screw with it if your tired of getting killed by it.
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Then don't screw with the 262 pilot. 163 is okay, alot of people can kill it, like i said don't screw with it if your tired of getting killed by it.
A lot of people can kill the 163? :rofl Maybe vulch one, that's about it. Also, you're putting words into my mouth. I wasn't complaining about being killed by these planes. Check back a bunch of tours. I don't think i've ever lost to a 163 and only a 1/2 dozen or so 262s since tour 93.
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alot of people can kill it
i dont know too many ppl who can kill it.
i have only killed it in bombers and only once in a dogfight and(its only because) he decided to HO and i blew him up but that was the only time in a fighter i have ever killed a 163
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No way 500 perkies if we dont get a formation. I wouldn't even pay 10 perks for it if we didn't get a formation.
p.s. The B-29 wasn't all that great you know? Only thing it could do was fly high and drop lots of bombs... Most people in bombers wont try to climb to 30,000 feet anyways. :rolleyes:
i got space bombing, i bombed from 70K once. I was in a lancaster and dumped all my bombs accept the 4000K. i didn't hit anything though lol.
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A lot of people can kill the 163? :rofl Maybe vulch one, that's about it. Also, you're putting words into my mouth. I wasn't complaining about being killed by these planes. Check back a bunch of tours. I don't think i've ever lost to a 163 and only a 1/2 dozen or so 262s since tour 93.
Okay, ill believe you.
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Both of you guys have been playing for ummmmm...... a month. Noobs!
Why do major noobs always ask for no 262's or 163's? They may be fast but there not really maneuverable. Learn to out fly the 262 with better movement. Ive done it, it gets you torn some times but i still kill em.
I'm not a major noob, i just have similar skills. I have killed 262s as well but only because they screwed up. A smart 262 pilot is a very tough kill.
And then this guy.... 70k What game is that?
i got space bombing, i bombed from 70K once. I was in a lancaster and dumped all my bombs accept the 4000K. i didn't hit anything though lol.
The "real" service ceiling for the Avro Lancaster was about 23k. You must have been playing one of those fake games. But not here.
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i got space bombing, i bombed from 70K once. I was in a lancaster and dumped all my bombs accept the 4000K. i didn't hit anything though lol.
are you sure about that Mr ki11er
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are you sure about that Mr ki11er
positive, this game celing effects suck. i seen 24s at 40k, had to hunt em down in a 262 and got killed (saving that story for another day).
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positive, this game celing effects suck. i seen 24s at 40k, had to hunt em down in a 262 and got killed (saving that story for another day).
well i myself have been to 40 K but never 70 K or even 50K
im still very skeptical
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So when can I expect my b-29? :rock
I'm thinking two weeks. :aok
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Both of you guys have been playing for ummmmm...... a month. Noobs!
And then this guy.... 70k What game is that?
The "real" service ceiling for the Avro Lancaster was about 23k. You must have been playing one of those fake games. But not here.
Ummm Ive known caldera for several months...hes no noob.
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Ummm Ive known caldera for several months...hes no noob.
but will you back up his 70K claim??
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but will you back up his 70K claim??
Caldera didn't make a 70k claim, superbkiller is the one that said it
i got space bombing, i bombed from 70K once. I was in a lancaster and dumped all my bombs accept the 4000K. i didn't hit anything though lol.
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Caldera didn't make a 70k claim, superbkiller is the one that said it
ya rgr, i was confused of the person being talked about
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Keeping it going....Superfortress should be here in about 12 days.!! Can't wait :rock
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Keeping it going....Superfortress should be here in about 12 days.!! Can't wait :rock
what makes you so sure?
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The vast majority of WWII aircraft had mechanically controlled flight surfaces, not electric/hydraulic ones. Even in Korea I think the MiG15 had mechanically controlled flight surfaces (wires & cables). Not sure about the B24, though.
I believe the b24 did. I just watch an episode of dogfights, desperate German pilots would use their prop to chop the top of the aircraft just behind the cockpit because that's were the wires and rods mostly were. You lose those, you lose control.
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Keeping it going....Superfortress should be here in about 12 days.!! Can't wait :rock
Says Who??
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besides most noobs can't aim.
are ytou talkting in fighters? if so, i know we all know people who attack bombers, and they arnt noobs
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<--still doesnt know why the thread is up
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Here we go again.
yup
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In honesty, I don't understand why a heavily perked (500 range even), non-nuclear/napalm, B-29 would be so darned unbalancing.
1. Are there really no fighters that can catch it at MA altitudes?
2. Are there really no fighters that can reach its ceiling?
(These are honest questions - I don't know the answers. Enlighten me :) )
If question 2 is correct... Then why not just put in a little cross wind way up in the air where none of the fighters can reach? Not enough to make flying a B-29 up there impossible, but enough to make bombing from that alt a serious challenge.
If question 1 is correct... First of all there's the 262 and 163, and second of all, people will just have to make their passes count.
I'm seriously doubting there are THAT many people that have enough BOMBER perks to be able to shrug off 500 point perk deductions enough to make this a horrible addition to the plane set.
45 mins for a town to rebuild. HQ much less with folks resupping it . B29 would be too cool for school. Unperk it. No nuke. Give it a payload that makes sense in Aces High. Would be fun for all.
Sorry V, didn't answer your questions. I think the B29 would be a hoot as I gather you do too.
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45 mins for a town to rebuild. HQ much less with folks resupping it . B29 would be too cool for school. Unperk it. No nuke. Give it a payload that makes sense in Aces High. Would be fun for all.
Sorry V, didn't answer your questions. I think the B29 would be a hoot as I gather you do too.
Exactly :aok Or perk it, I don't care :rock
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From what I recall, the armour was as bad on it as the B-24.
If a B-24's #3 engine catchs fire or goes out, your gonna go down because you lost hydraulic pressure (and electricity I think)
something wierd happened to me before in the game, i was bomging a HQ in a B-24, and on my way back tol the base ,a ME-163 came in on, i was at about 17,000 feet up, anyways, i shoot him down, but before he go down he shoots 2 engines on fire, so i thinking maybe if i climb they will go out, i climb to 19-20 k and the fire go out, i dont know what happen, if it was a glich or something that HTC has set, but whatever it was it saved me
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So who is going to start working on skins for our new b-29 :rock