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Title: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: SkyRock on July 14, 2008, 10:47:40 AM
60 kills of bombers, 15 kills of fighters, hit% 30........................... hmmmmm.......................


someone gets very lucky finding bombers and having such a high K/D to them......







 :noid
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: SFCHONDO on July 14, 2008, 10:56:15 AM
Ahhh OK.............  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: SkyRock on July 14, 2008, 10:58:00 AM
Ahhh OK.............  :rolleyes:
shut it twit boi, and move on along!  :aok


these timid scoretwits need to be investigated...........







 :noid
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Max on July 14, 2008, 10:58:39 AM
Stir it up; little darlin, stir it up. come on, baby.
Come on and stir it up: little darlin, stir it up. o-oh!
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: SFCHONDO on July 14, 2008, 11:01:05 AM
Investigate away, hope you get your Sherlock badge .....   :aok

Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Lusche on July 14, 2008, 11:12:57 AM
This one might be helpful:

(http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/610X39M0WGL._SL500_AA280_.jpg)
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: angelsandair on July 14, 2008, 11:40:24 AM
 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl                             
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: doleboy on July 14, 2008, 11:54:21 AM
This whine is ageing beautifully.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: uptown on July 14, 2008, 11:54:33 AM
I smell a shade account (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/cheater.jpg)
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: LYNX on July 14, 2008, 11:57:24 AM
Ladies and Gentlemen an allegation is set before us.  If there is a case to be prosecuted before kids return to school and, should that allegation be proven.....may I remind you of the only possible outcome.


(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/lynx-AH/knot-hangmans-noose-black-backdrop-.jpg)
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Husky01 on July 14, 2008, 11:59:41 AM
 :uhoh
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: angelsandair on July 14, 2008, 12:02:51 PM
60 kills of bombers, 15 kills of fighters, hit% 30........................... hmmmmm.......................


someone gets very lucky finding bombers and having such a high K/D to them......







 :noid

And who might this person be? Let them have their fun with their score, hopefully, one day, they'll realize it's not all about that.  :aok :cool:
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: CAP1 on July 14, 2008, 12:08:58 PM
60 kills of bombers, 15 kills of fighters, hit% 30........................... hmmmmm.......................


someone gets very lucky finding bombers and having such a high K/D to them......







 :noid

know what my hit % is that high on?

the ground!!!! :O :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 14, 2008, 12:24:14 PM
60 kills of bombers, 15 kills of fighters, hit% 30........................... hmmmmm.......................


someone gets very lucky finding bombers and having such a high K/D to them......
:noid

Sounds like Biggamer in the MW.


ack-ack
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Dinan on July 14, 2008, 12:53:52 PM
Sounds like Biggamer in the MW.


ack-ack

Na, He coverd it up after he got called out on it one night.  He had his hit% at 35, now its at 19 or somthing.  :lol
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: LYNX on July 14, 2008, 12:55:00 PM
Sounds like Biggamer in the MW.


ack-ack

Well....it depends what the allegation is.   
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Dinan on July 14, 2008, 12:56:37 PM
Vulching a shade at 4am?
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Ranger45 on July 14, 2008, 12:59:41 PM
Could someones life actually be dull enough to car about someone elses hit %, or even take the time to check other peoples stats.  Don't let this game get "ownage" of you.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: LYNX on July 14, 2008, 01:36:05 PM
Could someones life actually be dull enough to car about someone elses hit %, or even take the time to check other peoples stats.  Don't let this game get "ownage" of you.

No one cares about score.  It's public humiliation.... B4 the lock.  As yet there is no proof to one of the allegation.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: saantana on July 14, 2008, 02:06:42 PM
<- pwned skyrock  :furious
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: kj714 on July 14, 2008, 02:24:50 PM
60 kills of bombers, 15 kills of fighters, hit% 30........................... hmmmmm.......................


someone gets very lucky finding bombers and having such a high K/D to them......

 :noid

Eh, I don't know, I think you gotta look at their attack stats too in order to get a feel for it. I know some players who only really up fighter category to engage bombers and use attack mode for everything else because they like their fighter score to look good for whatever reason.

It's not that "lucky" to find a bunch of bombers, Bish use them alot on base takes, or just float around your cv, you'll catch them. I don't think Rooks so much, more jabo with them, except when cv's involved.

How many hours do they have in fighters? You tell me 60 bombers in 5 hours  :confused:, but 60 bombers in 10 or 15 hours, sure.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: lagger86 on July 14, 2008, 02:40:45 PM
My miss % is in the high 90's
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Husky01 on July 14, 2008, 02:44:28 PM
Names?
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Zazen13 on July 14, 2008, 02:53:32 PM
Eh, I don't know, I think you gotta look at their attack stats too in order to get a feel for it. I know some players who only really up fighter category to engage bombers and use attack mode for everything else .

Yup, a lot of people only score as fighter when flying a 262 or 163 and will often use one of those to attack a large buff mission. I can think of several people that do this and there's nothing unethical about it.

Anyone that manipulates their statistics unethically, is only doing so as an attention getting device, they are rendering their statistics useless as a potential tool for self-improvement.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: A8TOOL on July 14, 2008, 02:58:26 PM
I really HATE cheaters... but they're here to stay. Killing a second acct. I don't like but not so worried about because it only has to do with score. The new kids on the block cable pulling and picture taking is pretty aggravating without a doubt but theres nothing we can do about it or the two week acct.

I have a decent hit% and it's mostly due to a good aim, being stingy with the ammo and killing bombers whenever I get the chance. Recently our squad up'ed a bunch of Hurri 1's for fun and I was surprised to see my hit% go up from 12 to 16 in one sortie. I was able to kill 1 bomber and 2 planes with it. i think I'll be taking it out again :D It takes a lot of ammo to put something down but the reward was really in the satisfaction of making it home with kills.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Donzo on July 14, 2008, 03:10:19 PM


these timid scoretwits need to be investigated...........

 :noid

Why?
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Pannono on July 14, 2008, 03:19:51 PM
Just in case Lusche's method doesnt work:
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg3/Pannono/Cluedo_first_edition.jpg)
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Ghastly on July 14, 2008, 03:25:12 PM
Skyrock, how are you determining this?  The only way I can see to find these gems would be going down the list of players checking each one out?  (If so, why, bother ????)

<S>
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: 2bighorn on July 14, 2008, 03:25:59 PM
Why?

Because it cheapens the game experience. With peeps who game the game, my $14.95 investment turns out to be $0.02 worth only.

If you claim anything else, you're nothing but communist.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Zazen13 on July 14, 2008, 03:34:09 PM
Skyrock, how are you determining this?  The only way I can see to find these gems would be going down the list of players checking each one out?  (If so, why, bother ????)

<S>


I've always advocated a publicly accessable timestamped logging system like Airwarrior had. It was quite fun to read. If you had some imagination you could replay the battle in your mind from the logs. It was especially fun to read if you also had film from one perspective. You could deduce what transpired before you engaged and after you died. Also, when you pulled up someone's scoresheet, you could see the last 8-10 people they had shot down and the last person they got killed by. If we had something like this it would be as obvious as a dog's balls if someone were unethically manipulating the scoring system and the identity of their "stooge" account would be revealed to those that cared to know for witch-hunting purposes.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Gixer on July 14, 2008, 03:38:15 PM
Anyone that manipulates their statistics unethically, is only doing so as an attention getting device, they are rendering their statistics useless as a potential tool for self-improvement.

Why I only ever record all flights under fighter. Always thought the Attack catagory was useless for working out anything other then for a way to pad your score.

Flying only one aircraft and always under fighter keeps it nice and simple. Though the only stats that have ever changed significantly are hit% and number of assists with the switch from Yak-9U to Yak-9T :D


<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Zazen13 on July 14, 2008, 03:43:01 PM
Why I only ever record all flights under fighter. Always thought the Attack catagory was useless for working out anything other then for a way to pad your score.

Flying only one aircraft and always under fighter keeps it nice and simple. Though the only stats that have ever changed significantly are hit% and number of assists with the switch from Yak-9U to Yak-9T :D


<S>...-Gixer


If your intent is to preserve the integrity of your statistics as a self-improvement tool, flying exclusively under fighter mode is problematic. If you strafe ground targets in fighter mode, your hit% statistic is rendered useless as an accurate measurement of your aim.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Gixer on July 14, 2008, 03:44:53 PM
If your intent is to preserve the integrity of your statistics as a self-measuring tool, flying exclusively under fighter mode is problematic. If you strafe ground targets in fighter mode, your hit% is now useless as an accurate measurement of your aim.

I only have 32 rounds last thing I'm going to do is waste one on a building. Fighter mode means fighter mode imho nothing else.


<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Zazen13 on July 14, 2008, 03:55:24 PM
I only have 32 rounds last thing I'm going to do is waste one on a building. Fighter mode means fighter mode imho nothing else.


<S>...-Gixer


So, if you know for a fact you are only going to apply your weaponry air to air there's obviously no reason to use the attack mode...For most though, if they predict the fight may end up over an enemy field, the attack mode is usefull. I know a lot of people who only score in fighter mode if they are going to vulch, they won't strafe anything, not even a field gun, they'll circle waiting for someone else to do it to preserve their score, then continue vulching... :O
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Banshee7 on July 14, 2008, 04:01:21 PM
So, if you know for a fact you are only going to apply your weaponry air to air there's obviously no reason to use the attack mode...For most though, if they predict the fight may end up over an enemy field, the attack mode is usefull. I know a lot of people who only score in fighter mode if they are going to vulch, they won't strafe anything, not even a field gun, they'll circle waiting for someone else to do it to preserve their score, then continue vulching... :O

i know people like that too :O :O
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 14, 2008, 04:18:12 PM
Na, He coverd it up after he got called out on it one night.  He had his hit% at 35, now its at 19 or somthing.  :lol

LOL!  It was funny watching the other day when he was accusing someone for vulching a 2nd account when all the while he was vulching bombers to get the #1 fighter spot.  Kids these days, I weep for them.


ack-ack
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Masherbrum on July 14, 2008, 04:24:40 PM
So, if you know for a fact you are only going to apply your weaponry air to air there's obviously no reason to use the attack mode...For most though, if they predict the fight may end up over an enemy field, the attack mode is usefull. I know a lot of people who only score in fighter mode if they are going to vulch, they won't strafe anything, not even a field gun, they'll circle waiting for someone else to do it to preserve their score, then continue vulching... :O

Yep.   That is why regardless of my "Flight status", if I see an upper, it's going bye bye.   I see a FG, it's going bye-bye.   If someone needs a building down, same.   I don't care if 10 rounds don't count towards "rank".   "Rank"  :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl   oooooooooh boy.   

I'll never understand why some expect others to be "impressed" because they refuse to "pitch in for fear their score would be compromised".   What these people haven't figured out is that most KNOW who the "good folks are without mention of score."   
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 14, 2008, 04:27:16 PM
Well....it depends what the allegation is.   

Vulching bombers to pad score.  It's only two weeks into the current tour and he already has 93 bomber kills.  Now, if it was in the LW then it wouldn't raise any eyebrows but in the MW, it's a tad suspicious.  I fly in the MW pretty much exclusively and I've never run into 93 bombers before in a tour, let alone just two weeks into it.  Besides, if you fly in the MW, biggamer is one of the arena's score ho's.


ack-ack
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 14, 2008, 04:30:31 PM
If you claim anything else, you're nothing but communist.

 :rofl

I'm going to use that at the end of all my arguments and debates.


ack-ack
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: SkyRock on July 14, 2008, 05:06:39 PM
Skyrock, how are you determining this?  The only way I can see to find these gems would be going down the list of players checking each one out?  (If so, why, bother ????)

<S>

I noticed a new name in the top ten, found it odd at his high hit%, then posted, that's all!  Checked out what aircraft he was shooting at to have such a high hit% and noticed he be finding mucho bombers and not many fighters.......





 :noid






Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: uptown on July 14, 2008, 06:05:12 PM
Midwar?
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: zoozoo on July 14, 2008, 06:35:55 PM
its biggamer?
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Masherbrum on July 14, 2008, 06:39:55 PM
its biggamer?

Post count bump?
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: zoozoo on July 14, 2008, 06:41:28 PM
Post count bump?


yep. Whats im always trying to do.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: BaldEagl on July 14, 2008, 07:10:07 PM
I've always advocated a publicly accessable timestamped logging system like Airwarrior had. It was quite fun to read. If you had some imagination you could replay the battle in your mind from the logs. It was especially fun to read if you also had film from one perspective. You could deduce what transpired before you engaged and after you died. Also, when you pulled up someone's scoresheet, you could see the last 8-10 people they had shot down and the last person they got killed by. If we had something like this it would be as obvious as a dog's balls if someone were unethically manipulating the scoring system and the identity of their "stooge" account would be revealed to those that cared to know for witch-hunting purposes.

That still wouldn't work.  One night before the scoring was split between EW, MW and LW I was in the MW arena.  I got a kill on a guy who obviously wasn't very good.  Then I saw an upper at an enemy base nearby and flew over.  I killed the same guy.  He must have been a n00b.  He kept upping and I'd let him fly out clear of ack then kill him again.  I ended up killing the guy nine times before I ran low on fuel and left.  I sort of felt sorry for him but I just couldn't resist.    :D

As to hit%, I normally fly in fighter mode more than in attack mode.  If someone needs an ack or building down and no one else is around to do it I will.  If I spot a PT boat or something I'll kill it just to PO the guy.  Even at that my hit% is usually between 10-15%.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Zazen13 on July 14, 2008, 07:13:41 PM
That still wouldn't work.  One night before the scoring was split between EW, MW and LW I was in the MW arena.  I got a kill on a guy who obviously wasn't very good.  Then I saw an upper at an enemy base nearby and flew over.  I killed the same guy.  He must have been a n00b.  He kept upping and I'd let him fly out clear of ack then kill him again.  I ended up killing the guy nine times before I ran low on fuel and left.  I sort of felt sorry for him but I just couldn't resist.    :D


Simply killing the same guy several times in a row before you go bingo ammo wouldn't be enough to raise suspicion. If that was enough, every vulcher queen in AH would be guilty. Killing the same guy 50 times in one hour while scoring a 35% hit% would though..
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: kilz on July 14, 2008, 07:51:49 PM
INcredible
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: KTM520guy on July 14, 2008, 07:53:41 PM
Who cares...
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Banshee7 on July 14, 2008, 07:56:10 PM
I'm still wondering why people are worrying about other people's stats.  It's bad enough to worry about your own, and now you're gonna worry about someone else's?  Sounds like some of you need to get a life!  Go outside, Get a girlfriend, do something besides being so obsessed with a game ( a good one at that, especially since we SAPPers are taking over) and worrying about score.  All the time now all i hear is "Score this." or "Score that." or "Your score sucks."  Jeeez people.  You act as if score in this game really matters.

<Steps off soap box>
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 14, 2008, 08:08:37 PM
You act as if score in this game really matters.

<Steps off soap box>

You know, I think that is what Skyrock is trying to point out by the extremes tools will go to get a high score/rank. 


ack-ack
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Banshee7 on July 14, 2008, 08:13:16 PM
Yeah but he didnt have to bring it to the boards did he?  :)
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Masherbrum on July 14, 2008, 08:27:03 PM
Yeah but he didnt have to bring it to the boards did he?  :)

Silence!
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 14, 2008, 08:31:59 PM
Yeah but he didnt have to bring it to the boards did he?  :)

If he wanted to point out what tools some players can be, what other venue should he have posted it in?


ack-ack
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: TonyJoey on July 14, 2008, 08:46:39 PM
AKAK can u go into detail about killing his 2nd account because all of a sudden he started saying that i kill a second account :rolleyes:. Was that a coverup?
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Dichotomy on July 14, 2008, 09:02:35 PM
You know, I think that is what Skyrock is trying to point out by the extremes tools will go to get a high score/rank. 


ack-ack

Is that what he was doing?   I thought he was talking about him having an off night ;)
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Donzo on July 14, 2008, 09:10:35 PM
Who cares...

Exactly
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Masherbrum on July 14, 2008, 09:16:45 PM
Exactly

Why tease him, you know you do.   :D
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Banshee7 on July 14, 2008, 09:26:29 PM
If he wanted to point out what tools some players can be, what other venue should he have posted it in?


ack-ack

What's the point without names  :D
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Husky01 on July 14, 2008, 09:29:05 PM
 :uhoh
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 14, 2008, 09:31:06 PM
AKAK can u go into detail about killing his 2nd account because all of a sudden he started saying that i kill a second account :rolleyes:. Was that a coverup?

I was online a few days ago when he was either chewing you or your son out for vulching a 2nd account.  It was his constant accusations that got me wondering if he was protesting a tad too much, so I checked.  As someone pointed out, he had a 35% hit percentage for fighters with majority, if not all, of his kills being bombers.  Either he's the luckiest squeaker in AH to have run into 93 bombers to shoot down in the first two weeks of the arena (especially in a low populated arena) or he was vulching bombers to boost his K/S, K/D, K/H and hit percentage to get the #1 fighter spot.


ack-ack

Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Donzo on July 14, 2008, 09:32:56 PM
What's the point without names  :D

"I've read through this post about a point with names
It felt good to be out of the rain..."
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Zazen13 on July 14, 2008, 11:02:44 PM
I'm still wondering why people are worrying about other people's stats.  It's bad enough to worry about your own, and now you're gonna worry about someone else's?  

<Steps off soap box>

I appreciate what you're saying and don't entirely disagree with you. But, step outside of your own perspective and look at the big picture of the long-term health of the game we all enjoy. Approve of it or not, agree or disagree, there are a lot of subscribers who enjoy the goal setting aspect of playing for rank/score. That enjoyment is largely contingent upon the reasonable supposition that the playing field each tour is relatively level and fair. Once you have people manipulating their statistics unethically you've undermined the integrity of the entire system. Once you've done that, those that choose to approach the game in a goal oriented fashion are in a sense denied their right to enjoy that experience to its fullest. I am fairly certain HTC and conscientious members of the community would rather not marginalize the efforts of any subscribers if it all possible. If a laissez-faire attitude is taken it could potentially have a deleterious effect upon the long-term commercial viability of this product...Therefore, it is our duty as responsible and ethical members of the community to notify HTC via email if any unethical behavior is suspected, whether it has a direct impact on our respective individual play-style or not...
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: lyric1 on July 14, 2008, 11:06:20 PM
In my opinion for what it is worth. Get 2 or 3 accounts the more money they pump into the game the sooner they can keep improving the game we enjoy.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Zazen13 on July 14, 2008, 11:13:29 PM
In my opinion for what it is worth. Get 2 or 3 accounts the more money they pump into the game the sooner they can keep improving the game we enjoy.

Not if in doing so another 5 subscribers cancel their accounts in disgust...Which is entirely plausible.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: uptown on July 14, 2008, 11:23:56 PM
This is just another perfect example why score and rank doesn't mean dik. As Karaya said before, we all know who can do what in this this game. It's really sad that some twits go into empty arenas and shot theirselves down just to look talented to faceless internet names. But hey....whatever floats their boat.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: lyric1 on July 14, 2008, 11:24:56 PM
Not if in doing so another 5 subscribers cancel their accounts in disgust...Which is entirely plausible.
Valid point if true.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: WWM on July 15, 2008, 01:19:39 AM
Funny someone would go to one computer, up a formation of bombers, go back to the other computer and up a fighter, kill bombers, rinse & repeat 93 times in 2 weeks......... I think I would rather watch paint dry
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: TonyJoey on July 15, 2008, 01:21:59 AM
AKAK thank you for the info...knew something was up. :salute
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: ian5440 on July 15, 2008, 01:22:08 AM
Funny someone would go to one computer, up a formation of bombers, go back to the other computer and up a fighter, kill bombers, rinse & repeat 93 times in 2 weeks......... I think I would rather watch paint dry

to some lonely men, this is more than a game  :D

  :noid  :noid  :noid
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: lyric1 on July 15, 2008, 01:30:30 AM
....... I think I would rather watch paint dry
These guys look as if they are enjoying it. http://blogs.theage.com.au/schembri/agony1.jpg
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Delirium on July 15, 2008, 01:40:41 AM
I don't think this type of behavior was as prevalent until HTC offered cash rewards some time back for having a certain rank/score.

That said, let him vulch his account and get as big a score as he wants. It doesn't affect how I play the game...

[sarcasim]
Besides, the biggest score monkey in the game already hates me and I want to earn the respect of even those that vulch second accounts.
[/sarcasim]

Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: lyric1 on July 15, 2008, 01:49:15 AM
I don't think this type of behavior was as prevalent until HTC offered cash rewards some time back for having a certain rank/score.

Cash?
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Delirium on July 15, 2008, 01:56:13 AM
Maybe I am completely wrong, but not long after the 262 was released a cash prize was offered. I was taking a long break from AH at the time but read about it...
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Xargos on July 15, 2008, 01:57:00 AM
Cash?

Yep!
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: lyric1 on July 15, 2008, 02:00:11 AM
Yep!
Never new that. So now I know why so many try for the top spots & a select few of those have multiple accounts.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Xargos on July 15, 2008, 02:01:51 AM
Never new that. So now I know why so many try for the top spots & a select few of those have multiple accounts.

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,71485.0.html
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Delirium on July 15, 2008, 02:04:20 AM
Thanks Xargos, I was worried for a second I didn't read it properly and got my facts all messed up.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: lyric1 on July 15, 2008, 02:04:46 AM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,71485.0.html
Thank you for that link. 2002 was long before I started playing.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Bruv119 on July 15, 2008, 03:06:24 AM
your first attempt was wide of the mark but this one has some merit.  String him up!

 :salute  to your score policing mission SR.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: ian5440 on July 15, 2008, 03:11:51 AM
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,71485.0.html

good thing thats not happening now  :D

would def change the game :(
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: lyric1 on July 15, 2008, 03:53:08 AM
good thing thats not happening now  :D

would def change the game :(
I think that it is?
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: yanksfan on July 15, 2008, 06:00:28 AM
Yeah but he didnt have to bring it to the boards did he?  :)

The fact that someone would go so far as to vulch a second acct, Requires it be brought to the boards, i don't care at all about score but these guys that game the score are useually the big mouth dweebs that need to be exposed and humiliated. maybe if everyone did as SkyRock and look into these miricle scores it might give the score gamers something to think about b4 they do it.

just my .02
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Ghastly on July 15, 2008, 06:51:19 AM
Maybe someone should up kill his bombers before he can.

Or better yet, someone should up as escort to his bombers ... talk about frustrating!!! :D 
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: mechanic on July 15, 2008, 06:56:09 AM
Kills stat could be how many different people you shoot down a month, not just the number of kills. IE: someone who got a kill on john, paul and ringo would be higher ranked than someone who got 3 kills on john.

Of course that would be in a perfect world where it wouldnt be a huge waste of HTC hours.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: SkyRock on July 15, 2008, 07:30:31 AM
You know, I think that is what Skyrock is trying to point out by the extremes tools will go to get a high score/rank. 


ack-ack
Exactly, AKAK, I don't think some get it though.  I spent all of 7 seconds whizzing down the top ten fighters and noticed this cat was new and had a 4 to 1 ratio of kills of bombers to fighters and a 30% hit percentage. I smelled a rat, swept it up, and threw it out into the GD. :aok


PS this guy was in LW




 :noid
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Hap on July 15, 2008, 07:32:44 AM
My miss % is in the high 90's

lololol
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: SkyRock on July 15, 2008, 07:34:01 AM
Funny someone would go to one computer, up a formation of bombers, go back to the other computer and up a fighter, kill bombers, rinse & repeat 93 times in 2 weeks......... I think I would rather watch paint dry
Unfortunately, we that have been around awhile have seen it way to many times.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Zazen13 on July 15, 2008, 10:07:46 AM
To those that keep saying, "Who cares about his score, I don't play for score so it doesn't affect me...", chew on this for a few moments.

I don't do GV battles. I couldn't give a rat's fat arse about Shermans, Tigers and Panzers or anything to do with them. But, I recognize a lot of subscribers do enjoy the ground war aspect of the game, it seems somewhat strange to me, but I don't judge them. Now, say I'm flying along and I witness someone in a tank definitely doing something unscrupulous. Whatever, it doesn't affect me, what do I care?... right?... Wrong!!!

As conscientious members of the community we owe it to our fellow ethical players to report the incident to HTC via email with as much supportive evidence as possible and let them do what needs to be done to maintain the integrity of this product for the benefit of everyone, regardless of their chosen play-style...
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: LYNX on July 15, 2008, 10:19:17 AM
Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury.   Biggamer stands accused of a possible charges of "Willfull and premeditated score whoaring in the first degree".  Let us look at the facts. 

A relative new comer to the game as of December last.
Has played as many hours this tour in MW as of all of last tour.
Has 89 bomber kills so far in a relatively unpopulated arena.
Had a 29% hit rate which subsequently has dropped to 19%.
Fighter stats are:- Kills per hour at 21 in an unpopulated arena.
Ranked number 1 fighter in MW.
Belongs to a squad which is known to score.

Those are the facts but one vital piece of evidence is missing.  The curpus delicti.  The name of the shade account or willing accomplice has not been brought forward.  With the absents of a corpus delicti it cannot be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt the charge of "willful premeditated score whoaring in the first degree".

Upon summing up your verdict you must look at the facts and not hearsay.  That said there is a fine line between facts before us and reasonable doubt.  A guilty verdict for the charge would have to be unanimous.  If a member of the jury votes not guilty and in the absents of a corpus delicti the case is dismissed.

Appeals by both parties are permitted in the high court of HTC.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: uptown on July 15, 2008, 10:27:00 AM
It's HatTriks  :cool:
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: LYNX on July 15, 2008, 10:34:46 AM
In support of Zazen there are those that care about score and those that don't but everyone knows the difference between right and wrong.  OK it's only a game but ambivalence leads to a slippery slop
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: uptown on July 15, 2008, 10:37:26 AM
 :huh now I have to get the dictionary out.  :confused:


OK ambivalence. I have a new big word! :rock
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Pannono on July 15, 2008, 10:41:52 AM
give it a rest cryrock
someone has a higher accuracy % than you, get over it
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: uptown on July 15, 2008, 10:46:51 AM
Stow it banana! The adults are having a discussion. :devil
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: LYNX on July 15, 2008, 11:04:44 AM
It's HatTriks  :cool:

close but no cigar
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: evenhaim on July 15, 2008, 11:10:08 AM
close but no cigar
actually hes right...
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Steve on July 15, 2008, 11:28:42 AM
Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury.   Biggamer stands accused of a possible charges of "Willfull and premeditated score whoaring in the first degree".  Let us look at the facts. 

A relative new comer to the game as of December last.
Has played as many hours this tour in MW as of all of last tour.
Has 89 bomber kills so far in a relatively unpopulated arena.
Had a 29% hit rate which subsequently has dropped to 19%.
Fighter stats are:- Kills per hour at 21 in an unpopulated arena.
Ranked number 1 fighter in MW.
Belongs to a squad which is known to score.

Those are the facts but one vital piece of evidence is missing.  The curpus delicti.  The name of the shade account or willing accomplice has not been brought forward.  With the absents of a corpus delicti it cannot be proved beyond a shadow of a doubt the charge of "willful premeditated score whoaring in the first degree".

Upon summing up your verdict you must look at the facts and not hearsay.  That said there is a fine line between facts before us and reasonable doubt.  A guilty verdict for the charge would have to be unanimous.  If a member of the jury votes not guilty and in the absents of a corpus delicti the case is dismissed.

Appeals by both parties are permitted in the high court of HTC.

Considered individually, each piece of evidence is not particular damning. When contemplated as a whole, the very facts you enumerated show that there is clear evidence of corpus delicti.

Pssst it's "absence" not "absents"
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Banshee7 on July 15, 2008, 11:31:13 AM
Ladies and Gentlemen of the jury.   Biggamer stands accused of a possible charges of "Willfull and premeditated score whoaring in the first degree".  Let us look at the facts. 

A relative new comer to the game as of December last.

You only checked "Biggamer".  He changed his name in December from "Bigamer" because of all the flaming he has been getting for his name.  So he's been around longer than that :aok
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: LYNX on July 15, 2008, 11:31:24 AM
actually hes right...

From earlier in this thread :-
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Sounds like Biggamer in the MW.
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Well....it depends what the allegation is.   
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Vulching a shade at 4am?
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LOL!  It was funny watching the other day when he was accusing someone for vulching a 2nd account when all the while he was vulching bombers to get the #1 fighter spot.  Kids these days, I weep for them.

Do we have a new contender ?

Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: LYNX on July 15, 2008, 11:53:15 AM
Considered individually, each piece of evidence is not particular damning. When contemplated as a whole, the very facts you enumerated show that there is clear evidence of corpus delicti.

Pssst it's "absence" not "absents"

lol thanks for the correction.  My mind didn't have it's teeth in.  :D 

The defence could argue it's baiting bombers with a cv considering the 155 kills with a F6f
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Lusche on July 15, 2008, 11:56:51 AM
From earlier in this thread :-
Do we have a new contender ?



The Biggamer thing is actually a kind of hijjack. He's not the person this thread was originally about ;)
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Zazen13 on July 15, 2008, 11:57:51 AM
In support of Zazen there are those that care about score and those that don't but everyone knows the difference between right and wrong.  OK it's only a game but ambivalence leads to a slippery slop

Exactly, turning a blind eye to subterfuge simply because you have no vested interest in a particular aspect of gameplay is irresponsible. It is no different morally than sitting in your front yard in a lawn chair while three thugs drag your neighbor's wife out of the house, rape her, then proceed to rob the house while you look on chuckling to yourself, "Not my wife, not my stuff...who cares!".
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: evenhaim on July 15, 2008, 12:06:21 PM
The Biggamer thing is actually a kind of hijjack. He's not the person this thread was originally about ;)
  ;)
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: A8TOOL on July 15, 2008, 12:08:38 PM
I'd have to say bigcomplainer as well, although at first i thought he was trying to implicate a well respected long haired British man
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: LYNX on July 15, 2008, 12:09:06 PM
The Biggamer thing is actually a kind of hijjack. He's not the person this thread was originally about ;)

So there are 2 contenders for the


(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/lynx-AH/knot-hangmans-noose-black-backdrop-.jpg)(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/lynx-AH/knot-hangmans-noose-black-backdrop-.jpg)

we need more evidence.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: BoilerDown on July 15, 2008, 12:11:45 PM
If I were going to cheat, I'd shoot down my shade account's aircraft with rockets, then my ratio of kills to bullets would be infinity! :devil
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 15, 2008, 12:12:24 PM
The Biggamer thing is actually a kind of hijjack. He's not the person this thread was originally about ;)

Not really a hijack, more like a very slow moving cockroach that couldn't get out of the light fast enough.


ack-ack
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: LYNX on July 15, 2008, 12:35:59 PM
I'd have to say bigcomplainer as well, although at first i thought he was trying to implicate a well respected long haired British man

I plead not guilty me lawd.  I site spite 5 303's against 4 sets of low knight Lancaster's.  5 kills in 2 sorties  :D
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: stickpig on July 15, 2008, 12:51:25 PM
I noticed a new name in the top ten, found it odd at his high hit%, then posted, that's all!  Checked out what aircraft he was shooting at to have such a high hit% and noticed he be finding mucho bombers and not many fighters.......

how do you see what AC someone is shooting at?




 







Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: LYNX on July 15, 2008, 01:02:10 PM
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how do you see what AC someone is shooting at?

Home page, community, scores, killstats in expanded format.  Put a name in select a tour and or arena click go.  click kills in / off  etc.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: SkyRock on July 15, 2008, 01:51:52 PM
give it a rest cryrock
someone has a higher accuracy % than you, get over it
LMAO, I care less about if someone has a higher hit% than me, I just don't like timid runner, coward, no-fight cheater types. 

By the way, you fit into one of those catagories, runpunk.

 :devil

Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: SkyRock on July 15, 2008, 01:54:27 PM
So there are 2 contenders for the


(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/lynx-AH/knot-hangmans-noose-black-backdrop-.jpg)(http://i219.photobucket.com/albums/cc288/lynx-AH/knot-hangmans-noose-black-backdrop-.jpg)

we need more evidence.
Well, you have the right number of ropes! :aok
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: SkyRock on July 15, 2008, 01:56:17 PM
It's HatTriks  :cool:
C
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Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Steve on July 15, 2008, 02:14:13 PM
LMAO, I care less about if someone has a higher hit% than me, I just don't like timid runner, coward, no-fight cheater types. 

By the way, you fit into one of those catagories, runpunk.

 :devil



Steve 3, Pannono  0.    Woooo wooooo!
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: uptown on July 15, 2008, 02:55:00 PM
C
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G
A
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Far out man   (http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/2-191473-1386-t.jpg)
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: bongaroo on July 15, 2008, 03:39:48 PM
Dang, I missed all the fun.

Well, guess I'll just bump the thread with this:

A WITCH, BURN HER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Pannono on July 15, 2008, 03:44:32 PM
Steve 3, Pannono  0.    Woooo wooooo!
:rofl
1st time was my deadstick 38, 2nd time was by gangbang, 3rd time was my typhoon rtbin on 1/2 wing
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Steve on July 15, 2008, 04:06:05 PM
:rofl
1st time was my deadstick 38, 2nd time was by gangbang, 3rd time was my typhoon rtbin on 1/2 wing

1st one wasn't dead stick when I pounced on your fleeing 38.

2nd one wasn't a gangbang, as I recall it anyway.

 The 3rd one, you were in a Tempy. You had half a wing because I shot it off.


Wooo wooo!      :aok

film?
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: saantana on July 15, 2008, 04:09:45 PM
Who is "Steve"?
GameID?
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Steve on July 15, 2008, 04:12:09 PM
Who is "Steve"?
GameID?


guess.  :)
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Dichotomy on July 15, 2008, 04:14:19 PM
like the jeans?  full of fashionable holes and always on your A?
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Steve on July 15, 2008, 04:15:21 PM
Sadly, I am not particularly fashionable.  :lol
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: saantana on July 15, 2008, 04:15:42 PM
like the jeans?  full of fashionable holes and always on your A?
:rofl

Im just wondering if we've met in the skies
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Steve on July 15, 2008, 04:23:38 PM
:rofl

Im just wondering if we've met in the skies


My cpid is..... get ready..........    Steve.                                      :aok
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: bongaroo on July 15, 2008, 06:05:41 PM
what a shocker!  I was in suspense for a while.   :aok
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Masherbrum on July 15, 2008, 06:08:15 PM
Your claim.  

:rofl
1st time was my deadstick 38, 2nd time was by gangbang, 3rd time was my typhoon rtbin on 1/2 wing

A retort.

1st one wasn't dead stick when I pounced on your fleeing 38.

2nd one wasn't a gangbang, as I recall it anyway.

The 3rd one, you were in a Tempy. You had half a wing because I shot it off.

Wooo wooo!      :aok

film?

Pannano.....Steve is one of the most straight up guys in this game.   One night about what 4 months ago Steve?   I was auto grabbing and the little rascal Steve got on my 6 and I thought he cherry picked me.   Nope, we chatted and I got stupid for a bit and ended up in the tower.  

BUT, when I first started in the Game back in 2002, he was in one of the finest squads.    I'll side with Steve EVERYTIME.   Why?   He's good and knows it, but doesn't boast about it.   But more importantly, he's just a damn straight up cat.  

<<S>> Steve


Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: TwentyFo on July 15, 2008, 06:31:16 PM
<Sarcastically> I would never expect a person with the handle "Steve" to be a straight up guy.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Pannono on July 15, 2008, 06:36:15 PM
1st one wasn't dead stick when I pounced on your fleeing 38.
ok i guess my only engine stopping as you fire first shots isnt deadstick

2nd one wasn't a gangbang, as I recall it anyway.
a bunch of spits and n1ks on one guy isnt a gangbang since when?
IIRC, during this sortie i dove on you and you ran to ack, because you came in high and fast from the field to join the gangbang

The 3rd one, you were in a Tempy. You had half a wing because I shot it off.
a 51 with something other than default skin (you use default IIRC)  shot that off  when he warped behind me
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: mechanic on July 15, 2008, 09:09:11 PM
ok i guess my only engine stopping as you fire first shots isnt deadstick

only if you're silly enough not to fly a mosquito with two engines, a C-hog and half a hurricane mk1 strapped in the nose.

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a bunch of spits and n1ks on one guy isnt a gangbang since when?
[/b]

when the one guy gets to the stage where he realises he flew into the mess without provocation and that winning would be more likely if negative thoughts like 'im dead, its a gangbang' were left in the hanger.

next question? i like this game :D
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Steve on July 15, 2008, 09:33:00 PM
ok i guess my only engine stopping as you fire first shots isnt deadstick
a bunch of spits and n1ks on one guy isnt a gangbang since when?
IIRC, during this sortie i dove on you and you ran to ack, because you came in high and fast from the field to join the gangbang
a 51 with something other than default skin (you use default IIRC)  shot that off  when he warped behind me

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ok i guess my only engine stopping as you fire first shots isnt deadstick
   Really?  Completely deadstick as I fire my first shots?    A film:

http://www.mediafire.com/?5zvywgnbmyl

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because you came in high and fast from the field to join the gangbang
a 51 with something other than default skin (you use default IIRC)  shot that off  when he warped behind me

Really?  A gangbang? and a pony other than me shot your wing off?  Really?

A film:

http://www.mediafire.com/?zf2bymdlnzm







Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Masherbrum on July 15, 2008, 09:55:00 PM
   Really?  Completely deadstick as I fire my first shots?    A film:

http://www.mediafire.com/?5zvywgnbmyl

Really?  A gangbang? and a pony other than me shot your wing off?  Really?

A film:

http://www.mediafire.com/?zf2bymdlnzm

 :uhoh
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Husky01 on July 15, 2008, 09:57:34 PM
 :uhoh
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Getback on July 15, 2008, 10:50:24 PM
I knew of a guy that had a hit % of 40. I haven't seen him in years. He probably still plays under a different name. One thing that surprised me one day was that the map had just been reset. My squad and I all take off grabbing alt. This guy is already returning to base landing 12 kills. Uh 12 kills in about 20 minutes  or less and it wasn't a close base.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: SkyRock on July 15, 2008, 11:11:36 PM
Who is "Steve"?
Your owner! :aok
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Gixer on July 15, 2008, 11:20:52 PM
He's good and knows it, but doesn't boast about it.   But more importantly, he's just a damn straight up cat.  

<<S>> Steve


+1


<S>...-Gixer
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: PFactorDave on July 16, 2008, 12:56:04 AM
<Sarcastically> I would never expect a person with the handle "Steve" to be a straight up guy.

 :rofl

That was my first reaction also.

Too bad that the name Steve has such a "colorful" reputation.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Steve on July 16, 2008, 01:09:59 AM
:rofl

That was my first reaction also.

Too bad that the name Steve has such a "colorful" reputation.

Well deserved or otherwise, it's my fault... I'm the original, one and only Steve.  I'll admit I dunno what you mean by colorful though.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: PFactorDave on July 16, 2008, 01:12:20 AM
I'll admit I dunno what you mean by colorful though.

That's good, it adds testosterone points rather than sweatered poodle points.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Pannono on July 16, 2008, 01:14:20 AM
Really?  A gangbang?
not the sortie i was talking about....
btw, posting the films imply that you go for the easy kills, i.e., 1/2 wing, smoking
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Steve on July 16, 2008, 01:31:15 AM
not the sortie i was talking about....
btw, posting the films imply that you go for the easy kills, i.e., 1/2 wing, smoking


I shot your wing off in the first place.  What part of that don't you understand?  I knew it was you and I'm sure not gonna let some mouthy noob RTB. A respected friend, surely.  Not you, ever.

I've shot you a total of 3 times.. you've been caught lying, except the stats don't lie, nor do the films.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Pannono on July 16, 2008, 01:36:18 AM
omg im a mouthy noob! i am SO hurt, it has damaged my inner soul and now i must cut my wrists  :cry
since when do i have to care what other people think? because last time i checked, i dont
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: ian5440 on July 16, 2008, 01:44:37 AM
omg im a mouthy noob! i am SO hurt, it has damaged my inner soul and now i must cut my wrists  :cry
since when do i have to care what other people think? because last time i checked, i dont

the good thing is we are staying mature  :D
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: BMathis on July 16, 2008, 02:02:02 AM
uhg. Just read all 7 pages I missed... agonizing I must say. lol   














 :uhoh
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Steve on July 16, 2008, 02:27:35 AM
omg im a mouthy noob! i am SO hurt, it has damaged my inner soul and now i must cut my wrists  :cry
since when do i have to care what other people think? because last time i checked, i dont

I'm not sure what your point is.  If you dind't care what others think, you wouldn't have bothered inventing stories about being deadstick.  The film clearly shows you weren't. You're just not fooling anyone. You got waxed... ownt... now go away.
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: BiPoLaR on July 16, 2008, 03:02:50 AM
omg im a mouthy noob! i am SO hurt, it has damaged my inner soul and now i must cut my wrists  :cry
since when do i have to care what other people think? because last time i checked, i dont
you call others n00b huh...and how long you been around?
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Pannono on July 16, 2008, 03:04:42 AM
What can i say im an inventor
Title: Re: hmmmm another lucky hit%
Post by: Steve on July 16, 2008, 03:29:18 AM
Let's let this end. I got a PM from Pannono and we discussed this.  As far as I'm concerned it was  a "heat of battle" thing and it is over.  In the PM, Pannono was a stand up guy and didn't dodge his involvement.
Anyone who knows me is well aware that I have these moments myself. It would be hypocritical of me to be anything but completely understanding.
He got shot down while trying to limp home after getting ganged and had had a few tough flights before that. Most of us have been there and felt the frustration. I have, and have let it rip on 200.

I should have sensed this and let it go but I'd never "met" Pannono before. I apology for not recognizing this, Pannono.

Mash, Gix, Skyrock, Bip, thanks for stepping up for me.  I am glad for your friendships!   <S>


Steve