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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: angelsandair on July 24, 2008, 08:50:11 PM
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Since they updated the F6F-5, what do you think they might add/update next? For adding, it will either be a Mig-3 or an He-111 for planes, and for tanks, the Regular M4 Sherman or the Panther. For updating planes, they might do the Fm2/F4F (all in one) or the Zekes or Typhy/Temp.
What do you think? :D
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I'm reasonably confident that the F6F-3 will be next.... Typical of HTC's update process.
My regards,
Widewing
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Finally! HT took notice of my eloquently worded (and rather subtle) "Free The HellCat" campaign and avatar :salute
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Nukes?
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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It would be cool to see the Mig 3 or the He 111 both would be a fine addition , but I'm for whatever they decide , its a big world out there .
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While we're dreaming.... I hope they add the P-63 KingCobra :D
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Yak update.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/davest/beg.gif)
<S>...-Gixer
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A-26, oh please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please please ....HTC :D
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While we're dreaming.... I hope they add the P-63 KingCobra :D
Not to burst your bubble, but if we ever get the P63 it won't be for a very, very long time. If they were going to add it it would have been released along with the other P39 models.
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I'm reasonably confident that the F6F-3 will be next.... Typical of HTC's update process.
My regards,
Widewing
Do you think they're going to add an entirely new plane or not this time round?
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Yossarian
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Not to burst your bubble, but if we ever get the P63 it won't be for a very, very long time. If they were going to add it it would have been released along with the other P39 models.
Ehh, hopefully, it wouldn't be hard to add....
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I'm reasonably confident that the F6F-3 will be next.... Typical of HTC's update process.
My regards,
Widewing
I Would like the f6f-3.
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Ehh, hopefully, it wouldn't be hard to add....
Exactly my point.
If they were going to do it they would have just done it in the first place.
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He-111? :noid :)
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Exactly my point.
If they were going to do it they would have just done it in the first place.
The P-63 is quite a bit bigger actually. And the Russians made a version called the P-63A-9 that could hold 58 37mm cannon ammo.
The P-63 was 2 feet longer and had a 4 foot longer wingspan. :aok
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P-63_Kingcobra
The P-63 had an impressive roll rate, besting the P-47, P-40, N1K2 and P-51 with a rate of 110° per second at 275 mph.
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Rumor has it hitech is going to add the PBY Catalina float plane.......His idea is that if you get shot down over water and a PBY from your country picks you up with in 7 minutes ..you don't lose points ..and the friendly PBY will receive perks in the rescue! Hitech thinks this will increase squad and team play giving even a new comers an important role.
whish I would have thought this up!
<S> 999000
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good going... now they wont add it... :noid :D
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Rumor has it hitech is going to add the PBY Catalina float plane.......His idea is that if you get shot down over water and a PBY from your country picks you up with in 7 minutes ..you don't lose points ..and the friendly PBY will receive perks in the rescue! Hitech thinks this will increase squad and team play giving even a new comers an important role.
whish I would have thought this up!
<S> 999000
Please give your sources, but this is just a millimetre below the A-26 on my own wishlist !!!!
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Yossarian
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At least you didnt fill your post with PBY Catalina.......
j/k
:salute
bobtom
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BRING ON THE 410!! :aok :aok
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk81/Fenian_album/NexME410.jpg)
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Bring on Tante Ju!
Great work on the F6F HTC.
Looks better than the F6F in IL2 :)
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At least you didnt fill your post with PBY Catalina.......
j/k
:salute
bobtom
ooohhhh man that's tempting.....
PBY Catalina, PBY Catalina, PBY Cata.....
Meh I'll hold off. It's 5:10AM here, probably time to go to bed :D :D :D
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Yossarian
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Hitech also had the cool idea of tow behind C47 gliders you would steer down to landing sites ... that would have troops and jeeps!..He even was thinking about large invasion landing craft where squads/individuals could roll up to 8 amphibious tanks off these large landing craft! ...small blimps to keep vulchers away would also be added at this same time.
Hitech has ideas!
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I really like his idea of just adding CV's to the task force so you have 2-4 CV's ...any one individual CV sunk would stay down for 15 minutes ....you would need to have all cv's down before one would respawn for entire CV task force to go away.
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ooohhhh man that's tempting.....
PBY Catalina, PBY Catalina, PBY Cata.....
Meh I'll hold off. It's 5:10AM here, probably time to go to bed :D :D :D
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Yossarian
Yeah its about that time...
Only 11:16 here...
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BRING ON THE 410!! :aok :aok
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk81/Fenian_album/NexME410.jpg)
:rock
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P-63 was used as a gunnery target by the Army Air Force. It had a red light that lit up when hit by frangible bullits.
P63 useless. Will get as much use as the P39 in the every day MA.
I may be wrong but I don't think we used it in combat.
The Russians did.
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god bless the a36 :pray
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P-63 was used as a gunnery target by the Army Air Force. It had a red light that lit up when hit by frangible bullits.
P63 useless. Will get as much use as the P39 in the every day MA.
I may be wrong but I don't think we used it in combat.
The Russians did.
P-63 was twice as good as the P-39 and could out run the La-7 on the deck. It would be like a 109K4 but with a 37mm gun.
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Bring on some early war planes, preferably 40-43
The early/mid war is just horrible when it comes to player amount.
Build the early birds, and they will come.
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looking good
typhy/temp next :pray
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looking good
typhy/temp next :pray
*smacks bruv119* P-40S FIRST! :D
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N1K2's and Macchies' 3D models are from 1999...from the AH1 beta. I think it's pretty clear that either one deserves to be the next re-made plane. F4F's and P-40's are from AH 1.10 IIRC and a lot better looking models compared to the Macchi's and the N1K2. They can wait.
Personally, I think they should have been done before the F6F for the reason above...but considering the work Greebo has done for HTC and for this community, he sure deserved his ride to be remodelled! He's by far the best skinner we have.
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N1K2's and Macchies' 3D models are from 1999...from the AH1 beta. I think it's pretty clear that either one deserves to be the next re-made plane. F4F's and P-40's are from AH 1.10 IIRC and a lot better looking models compared to the Macchi's and the N1K2. They can wait.
Personally, I think they should have been done before the F6F for the reason above...but considering the work Greebo has done for HTC and for this community, he sure deserved his ride to be remodelled! He's by far the best skinner we have.
You're right, he's an F6F dweeb... I hope his next favorite plane is the P-40E/B :noid (HTC, please add the P-40N while your at it :) )
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Gotta be an Axis or Russian plane next, surely adding another American plane cannot be justified?
I suspect an F6F-3, a Russian aircraft and a German aircraft. 3 new ones. Or is that a tad optimistic?
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Gotta be an Axis or Russian plane next, surely adding another American plane cannot be justified?
I suspect an F6F-3, a Russian aircraft and a German aircraft. 3 new ones. Or is that a tad optimistic?
Dont forget GV's. (Panther pleeze? M26? M10?)
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Perhaps a tad.
Keep in mind the last update was the largest to date not counting AH2's first release itself.
It was the exception to the rule, not the new rule (not yet). You can probably only expect a couple of planes. Faster, smaller updates, perhaps? (that would be nice! Steady progress instead of bursts, right?)
EDIT: One word: Lancaster. Buggiest bomber flight model in the game, soaks up damage from 30mm rounds with no effect, won't catch fire. Fix this, bring it to the level of the other bombers, where it's reasonable to shoot it down.
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I'm thinking one more update (hopefully on the Macchis, those things look awful), and one or maybe two more aircraft from the Russian or Axis set.
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yea, that would be awesome. Maybe have an update to a plane or 2, maybe update a plane and add a new one and release it every month. :aok
Who knows :noid :aok
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The new hellcat looks awesome.. :rock
Maybe, hopefully, it's the start of a new and improved pacific theater?
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Perhaps a tad.
Keep in mind the last update was the largest to date not counting AH2's first release itself.
It was the exception to the rule, not the new rule (not yet). You can probably only expect a couple of planes. Faster, smaller updates, perhaps? (that would be nice! Steady progress instead of bursts, right?)
EDIT: One word: Lancaster. Buggiest bomber flight model in the game, soaks up damage from 30mm rounds with no effect, won't catch fire. Fix this, bring it to the level of the other bombers, where it's reasonable to shoot it down.
That would be nice too.
I have noticed that, since I started playing a year and a half ago, we've gotten updates every six months pretty consistently, give or take a month or two. I've been here for 3 updates btw.... certainly not forever, but long enough to notice a pattern.
This interval works pretty well IMO. Honestly the awe of how nice the last update looked still hasn't gone away
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Now, what I would like HTC to do is just tell nothing else and give us the patch. SUPRISE US!!
So that way, when we finally get the patch, we arent waiting in anticipation and we arent whining about when we'd get it :D
p.s. I wonder if Greebo gets to fly the F6F looking new now? It still looks like the old one to us, but new to him?
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Perhaps a tad.
Keep in mind the last update was the largest to date not counting AH2's first release itself.
It was the exception to the rule, not the new rule (not yet). You can probably only expect a couple of planes. Faster, smaller updates, perhaps? (that would be nice! Steady progress instead of bursts, right?)
EDIT: One word: Lancaster. Buggiest bomber flight model in the game, soaks up damage from 30mm rounds with no effect, won't catch fire. Fix this, bring it to the level of the other bombers, where it's reasonable to shoot it down.
Didn't they streamline the way they make aircraft which enables them to make them more quickly? Last time they added a B-25 too, which is pretty much work two smaller aircraft. So i don't think three is out of the question considering they were doing the F6F and the -3 was there mostly from the -5 anyway.
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BTW if you guys haven't noticed by now they give out new screenshots every Wednesday.
Wait yesterday was Thursday... NVM lmao
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Would guess F6F-3, if anything completely new hopefully IJN or IJAAf.
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G'Day ,
I'd like to see the Henschel Hs 129 B-2 ground attack A/C , with the Mk 103 gun gondola , or the BK 7.5 cannon , etc.
Just my 2 cents worth
AK Ziff
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updated Yak would be nice.
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Brewster Buffalo!
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BRING ON THE 410!
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk81/Fenian_album/me210_flug.jpg)
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Ok, I'll bite. If the 410 were coming online, at what would it excel? Same question for the Yak. And the A26.
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He-111 I'm assuming. Or maybe a G4M betty :D
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He-111 I'm assuming. Or maybe a G4M betty :D
how about both, hmmmmmmmmmm.
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Ok, I'll bite. If the 410 were coming online, at what would it excel? Same question for the Yak. And the A26.
I wasn't aware it had to "excel" at something in order to be added.... At what do the P-39 models "excel" that warranted their addition? :huh
The 410 has insane armament, would be a great Buff Hunter, and I along with many others I've seen want a chance at "The Murders Plane".
BRING ON THE 410!
(http://i278.photobucket.com/albums/kk81/Fenian_album/Me410.jpg)
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I'd like some more British carrier borne planes, and more jap planes before more american planes.
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What exactly is the 410s armanment I forgot it.
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What exactly is the 410s armanment I forgot it.
Many variations...scroll down :aok
http://www.xs4all.nl/~fbonne/warbirds/ww2htmls/messme410.html (http://www.xs4all.nl/~fbonne/warbirds/ww2htmls/messme410.html)
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Brewster Buffalo is good compromise. American made plane, but only used succesfully by Finnish Airforce (Germans ally) against russians. So its Allied/Axis plane ;) Everybody´s happy :aok
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I want an unperked P-51 with 6 Hispanos!!
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And I want....
a shrubbery!!
(Ni!)
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I'd like to see some more Russian and German planes. Perhaps a Japanese plane as well.
Mid - early war is fine with me, it would open up more scenarios and fso's.
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Ok, I'll bite. If the 410 were coming online, at what would it excel? Same question for the Yak. And the A26.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,202095.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,202100.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,120414.0.html
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I'd like to see some more Russian and German planes. Perhaps a Japanese plane as well.
Mid - early war is fine with me, it would open up more scenarios and fso's.
:aok
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Me410, ju52, and he111 please. A flying boat would also be great.
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It would be great if HTC allows us not to load the rear guns and all supporting hardware..
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Im thrilled with the hellcat being updated. I love that plane.
I hope a Russian level bomber comes next.
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I'd just like to see HT finish all the exisiting aircraft before spending time to add another new plane or gv. Great that the F6F has been done, looks excellent. :aok
<S>...-Gixer
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They will most likley make the F6F-3. I would love to see the P40E/B redone along with the C-47.
If it were up to me, I would change all the AH1 planes, to modern AH2 planes.
and I would like to see the Fiat G.55 :D
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They will most likley make the F6F-3. I would love to see the P40E/B redone along with the C-47.
If it were up to me, I would change all the AH1 planes, to modern AH2 planes.
and I would like to see the Fiat G.55 :D
You know, there are aircraft other than US aircraft in the game...
Aircraft added or updated, or with announced updates to AH2 standards:
American:
B-17G
B-24J
B-25C/D
B-25H
F4U-1
F4U-1A
F4U-1C
F4U-1D
F4U-4
F6F-5
P-38G
P-38J
P-38L
P-39D
P-39Q
P-47D-11
P-47D-25
P-47D-40
P-47N
P-51B
P-51D
German:
Bf109E-4
Bf109F-4
Bf109G-2
Bf109G-6
Bf109G-14
Bf109K-4
Fw190A-5
Fw190A-8
Fw190D-9
Fw190F-8
British:
Seafire Mk IIc
Spitfire Mk Ia
Spitfire Mk Vb
Spitfire Mk VIII
Spitfire Mk IX
Spitfire Mk XIV
Spitfire Mk XVI
Russian:
La-5FN
La-7
Japanese:
Ki-84-Ia
Note that the US has a far greater number of types upgraded to AH2 standards. The German list is long, but only two types and the British list is only one type.
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A6M, only 1 Japanese plane done and if I remember it was one of the first. Plus it just goes along well with the F6F. :D
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Yak update.
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/davest/beg.gif)
<S>...-Gixer
Amen to that. The Yak9T and 9U would look awesome after a remodel.
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Update the Bf-110s :aok
Or add any new plane from the German or Japanese planeset. And then eventually the A-26 :)
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You know, there are aircraft other than US aircraft in the game...
Aircraft added or updated, or with announced updates to AH2 standards:
American:
B-17G
B-24J
B-25C/D
B-25H
F4U-1
F4U-1A
F4U-1C
F4U-1D
F4U-4
F6F-5
P-38G
P-38J
P-38L
P-39D
P-39Q
P-47D-11
P-47D-25
P-47D-40
P-47N
P-51B
P-51D
German:
Bf109E-4
Bf109F-4
Bf109G-2
Bf109G-6
Bf109G-14
Bf109K-4
Fw190A-5
Fw190A-8
Fw190D-9
Fw190F-8
British:
Seafire Mk IIc
Spitfire Mk Ia
Spitfire Mk Vb
Spitfire Mk VIII
Spitfire Mk IX
Spitfire Mk XIV
Spitfire Mk XVI
Russian:
La-5FN
La-7
Japanese:
Ki-84-Ia
Note that the US has a far greater number of types upgraded to AH2 standards. The German list is long, but only two types and the British list is only one type.
here are the planes that need to be updated:
Ar-234
A6M2/5b
Bf110G-2/C
C-47
C202/205
Me-163
Me-262
P40E/B
Yak9U/T
Its not a huge list, but I think that it all should be eventually updated, or at least 1 update, every update, along with a new plane.
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Added Ta-152...
You know, there are aircraft other than US aircraft in the game...
Aircraft added or updated, or with announced updates to AH2 standards:
American:
B-17G
B-24J
B-25C/D
B-25H
F4U-1
F4U-1A
F4U-1C
F4U-1D
F4U-4
F6F-5
P-38G
P-38J
P-38L
P-39D
P-39Q
P-47D-11
P-47D-25
P-47D-40
P-47N
P-51B
P-51D
German:
Bf109E-4
Bf109F-4
Bf109G-2
Bf109G-6
Bf109G-14
Bf109K-4
Fw190A-5
Fw190A-8
Fw190D-9
Fw190F-8
Ta-152
British:
Seafire Mk IIc
Spitfire Mk Ia
Spitfire Mk Vb
Spitfire Mk VIII
Spitfire Mk IX
Spitfire Mk XIV
Spitfire Mk XVI
Russian:
La-5FN
La-7
Japanese:
Ki-84-Ia
Note that the US has a far greater number of types upgraded to AH2 standards. The German list is long, but only two types and the British list is only one type.
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here are the planes that need to be updated:
Ar-234
A6M2/5b
Bf110G-2/C
C-47
C202/205
Me-163
Me-262
P40E/B
Yak9U/T
Its not a huge list, but I think that it all should be eventually updated, or at least 1 update, every update, along with a new plane.
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And the..
Tempest
Typhoon
Hurricane I
Hurricane IIC
Hurricane IID
IL-2
Ju-87D3
Ju-88
KI-61
N1K2-J
KI-67
F4F
FM-2
SBD
D3A1
B5N
Mosquito VI
TBM
B-26B
A20
Boston III
Lancaster
Hardly any.. :lol
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And the..
Tempest
Typhoon
Hurricane I
Hurricane IIC
Hurricane IID
IL-2
Ju-87D3
Ju-88
KI-61
N1K2-J
KI-67
F4F
FM-2
SBD
D3A1
B5N
Mosquito VI
TBM
B-26B
A20
Boston III
Lancaster
Hardly any.. :lol
didn't realy think about those, just tring to think of what needs to be done right off the top of my head :noid
I just think that thats the way it should be, when we model new planes, we update the old ones as well.
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im with him :aok :aok
but the pby sounds kool too :rock
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I'd just like to see HT finish all the exisiting aircraft before spending time to add another new plane or gv. Great that the F6F has been done, looks excellent. :aok
<S>...-Gixer
I think this is the most intelligent post of this whole thread...No offense to anyone...
I'm a bit disappointed with many of the STILL octagonal shaped engine cowlings and fuselages(instead smooth round or oval) that this game still sports.. I realize this may eventually tax older systems to a varying degree.. But it's time to bring every plane up to date if it's not already.. The F6F5 looks fantastic and I look forward to more planes getting this kind of make over..
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I'd really like to see the F4F/FM-2 done. Also, right now the F4F-4 we have in the game is sort of hybridized with the F4F-3 because of the two gun package options.
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no offence whiskey but can you give me one reason why the pby should be added, besides the fact that ht has said no recon planes.
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PBY? Mine laying of course :) I hope they add the JU87G tank buster....now that would be very cool and fun. It would also be easy to add that variant.
LTARogue
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evenhaim,
PBY's could carry vehicle or field supplies, bombs and torpedoes (Black Cat PBYs sunk almost 115,000 tons of enemy shipping). I think I've seen photos of the PBY with two torpedoes loaded under each wing. Her defensive armament would make her a tougher target for running supplies than a C-47. The PBY could be made available from ports, as well as from airfields.
Also, if HTC ever adds subs (which IIRC he wants to do) the PBY was the premier Allied ASW aircraft.
Additionally, the PBY would be invaluable for scenarios such as those set at Midway and Guadalcanal, and I can see her used in FSO in a similar "recon" objective similar to how Mosquitos have been used.
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evenhaim,
PBY's could carry vehicle or field supplies, bombs and torpedoes (Black Cat PBYs sunk almost 115,000 tons of enemy shipping). I think I've seen photos of the PBY with two torpedoes loaded under each wing. Her defensive armament would make her a tougher target for running supplies than a C-47. The PBY could be made available from ports, as well as from airfields.
Also, if HTC ever adds subs (which IIRC he wants to do) the PBY was the premier Allied ASW aircraft.
Additionally, the PBY would be invaluable for scenarios such as those set at Midway and Guadalcanal, and I can see her used in FSO in a similar "recon" objective similar to how Mosquitos have been used.
That would be nice to see. What kind of armament did it have normally?
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I think 2 .50cal and 2 .30cal, some may have had more. Ordinance loadout was about 4000lbs of bombs or torpedoes. I THINK there was provisions for carrying the 5" HVAR as well.
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(http://aviationartstore.com/images/photo_d520_inflight.jpg)
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410 or the HE 219 Owl! :aok
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no offence whiskey but can you give me one reason why the pby should be added, besides the fact that ht has said no recon planes.
i didn't say it should be added, i only commented that it would be kool!
although, others here have stated good reasons for it as well!
i have wanted the yak-3 for a long time now! but i do understand why so many would rather see the planeset we have now re-done or updated!
for me it is just a very fun game :aok and the first one i have ever played, so it's all good too me :D
and yes sometimes i would like too drop a nuke from a b-29 :O so i am glad cooler heads, at HTC have not put it in the game! (yet) :rofl :rofl :noid :noid :rofl :rofl
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PBY? You guys do realise that it was one of the slowest things in the air, famously it climbed flew straight and level and dived at 100mph. All nice and romantic to have a PBY but overall useless for the MA. Rescue downed airmen? Other then the most desperate of score potatos who's going to wait more then 2 mins for a PBY to turn up when you can just press 'end'?
Update the existing fleet then discuss what's to come next.
<S>...-Gixer
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People said the B-25 would be useless, too. :noid
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I too would like the old Ah1 planes to be updated to newer standards.
Or at least the He-111 and brewster to be added, just to shut people up. :rock
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I mean, think about it, how many post's would be saved if no one could request the he-111 or brewster. :D
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There's some novelty and use for a plane at ports, and to lay mines or spot CVs or other gameplay ideas, but any of the latter would mean lots of new coad and gameplay brainstorming. Without them I can't see much use for it besides cargo and maybe ackstarring the map room with those small guns...
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There's some novelty and use for a plane at ports, and to lay mines or spot CVs or other gameplay ideas, but any of the latter would mean lots of new coad and gameplay brainstorming. Without them I can't see much use for it besides cargo and maybe ackstarring the map room with those small guns...
lol i know they carried bombs torps and mines but seriously it would be chumps meat in the a flying at 100 mph a hurri 1 looks like a p51 next to this novelty bird. Its just wierd when there are so many critical (imo) planes like the 410 betty he111 and several other a/c
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Since it has had its flight model patched up a bit the mighty Mossie is in desperate need of a face lift.
It is, in my opinion, the premier attack fighter in the game. For pure bomb/rocket hauling ability combined with dogfighting capability the Mossie cannot be beaten. More fun than Spits.... the Mossie is my favorite Allied aircraft. :aok
(http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h318/chris_edin/mosquito500.jpg)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNJ8rIEPLOo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNJ8rIEPLOo)
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That or an update and re-arm of the Stuka (with a small perk on the G1 model, perhaps)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i253/plague_06/WWII/acad_ju-87g-1-decals.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i253/plague_06/WWII/Ju87_G1_18.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i253/plague_06/WWII/ju87g-6.jpg)
(http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i253/plague_06/WWII/Ju87_86.jpg)
:pray
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU6OK1zSxKg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU6OK1zSxKg)
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That looks awesome! What cannons are those and how many of the Stukas carried them?
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agreed on both counts xas, g2 would be fun to play rudel lol and the mossie would be beautiful seeing how the new 3d models are looking :O
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That looks awesome! What cannons are those and how many of the Stukas carried them?
They're 37mm anti tank cannons. 6 rounds of armor piercing ammunition in each of the two synchronized cannons.
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I have a feeling the 410 is going to be used for a week, then called a waste. Like what most players say about the P-39.
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No.. It's going to eat into the 110's usage though. It looks like you haven't accurately understood what it would be like. The MK103s on any minimaly maneuverable platform are probably enough on their own to make the 410 competitive.
Supposing they add the B2 model, it would have either 6x20mm, MK103x2 + BK5 (or 3.5), or a light loadout like 2x.30 and 2/4x 20mm. Add to that the partialy glass cockpit, the speed and great looks... If it handles anywhere as well as the 110, it's going to really make a mark.
Anything sitting still would be dead meat to the 410. It would even compete with the Il2.. The 103s would probably be about as lethal as its 23mm's, if not more. Hell, the 103s may have better ballistics than the 151/20s!
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4 20mm's the 'light' armament... love it :D
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:D Now thats what no one ever said about the 410 :D
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Check it out..
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,202095.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,202100.0.html
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,120414.0.html
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....... told me about it... :devil :devil :lol
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What exactly is the 410s armanment I forgot it.
(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/bk-5-50mm-2.jpg)
(http://www.arabian-knights.org/images/screenshots/bk-5-50mm.jpg)
Umm...this IS what you were asking about, right?
Don't forget the ME262 version...
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There was no Me262 'version'. There was one prototype built with the BK5 in the nose, it never went into production.
The most important part of the Me410's armament, IMO, was not the BK5, but rather the MK103, which fired a larger 30mm round MUCH faster than the Mk108 we have in game. The ultimate aircraft cannon :) (although it was insanely heavy... 140+ kilograms IIRC)
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There was no Me262 'version'. There was one prototype built with the BK5 in the nose, it never went into production.
The most important part of the Me410's armament, IMO, was not the BK5, but rather the MK103, which fired a larger 30mm round MUCH faster than the Mk108 we have in game. The ultimate aircraft cannon :) (although it was insanely heavy... 140+ kilograms IIRC)
I believe there was more than 1 262 with a bk5 but thats besides the point. The me410 NEEDS to be added. I sware I cry of joy everytime i see even an artist rendition of a 410 attack american bombers, it must be added or ill die :mad:
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Yeah the 103 is pretty heavy, three times an MG151/20 or MK108. Two of em + a BK5 would be a real handful.. Maybe that says something about the airframe? A lighter MK103 loadout would be ace, though :) Too bad 8x20mm was such a rare field mod.
Dang, it looks like those gun packages we're drooling over are spread over two models:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/%3cFA%3eJaws/16G.jpg
The A2 and B2.. Let's hope there's no reason for HTC to model only one of the two.
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There was no Me262 'version'. There was one prototype built with the BK5 in the nose, it never went into production.
The most important part of the Me410's armament, IMO, was not the BK5, but rather the MK103, which fired a larger 30mm round MUCH faster than the Mk108 we have in game. The ultimate aircraft cannon :) (although it was insanely heavy... 140+ kilograms IIRC)
Not sure what you're trying to say. The BK5 was a 50mm round. The MK108 was a 30mm round with all of 1600 fps muzzle velocity. The MK103 was a 30mm round with something like 2800 fps muzzle velocity. Both were smaller than the BK5, though the high velocity of the MK103 would be nice if you're actually trying to hit a moving target, unlike the MK108 that has something like a 50 foot drop at 800 yards.
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Is that a fourth glass plate on the U2/R4 variant? Below the lowest one on every other configuration: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/%3cFA%3eJaws/16G.jpg
It doesn't look like it'd be useful, given the row of gauges in the way, cockpit-side: http://www.onpoi.net/ah/pics/users/245_1079730091_wrg0237.jpg
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Not sure what you're trying to say. The BK5 was a 50mm round. The MK108 was a 30mm round with all of 1600 fps muzzle velocity. The MK103 was a 30mm round with something like 2800 fps muzzle velocity. Both were smaller than the BK5, though the high velocity of the MK103 would be nice if you're actually trying to hit a moving target, unlike the MK108 that has something like a 50 foot drop at 800 yards.
Yes, but when you consider;
4/5 times, a single hit from a 30mm will bring down a fighter.
5-10 30mm hits will usually bring down a bomber.
Now, out of pure speculation, lets say that a 50mm round will be 3x more powerful than a 30mm round (as modeled in game, in general, a 30mm round is approximately 3x as powerful as a 20mm round, which is 3x as powerful as a .50 cal round, which is 3x as powerful as a .30 cal round (Source (http://www.netaces.org/roundpwr/roundpwr.htm)).
So... we'll standardize a 30mm hit to one and a 50mm hit to three.
The BK5 has an ROF of 45 rounds per minute.
The Mk103 has an ROF of 380 rounds per minute.
In one minute of sustained fire, a BK5 would cause equal damage to 135 30mm hits.
1 Mk103 alone churns out 380 RPM, and the Me410 in this configuration has two Mk103s.... so it produces 5.6 times as more firepower from the Mk103s as from the BK5.
Thus my belief that the Mk103 is more significant in the Me410's armament than the BK5 :)
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And then add the fact that the 103 round is way stronger than the 108's.. The BK5'll be hell for relatively stationary targets, though. I don't know the comparative numbers, but the B25H's 75mm's already fairly easy to land on formations and GVs from really far out. That's probably more difficult a shot than the BK5 will be.
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the f8f never saw action, Pkun.
and there is an edit function.
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The later models of 410s removed the 7mm guns in place of 13mm MG131s (like in the Fw190a8 nose), and one version, counting either 4 guns in the bomb bay and a gunpod, or possibly 2 guns in the bomb bay and 2 separat gunpods, had a total of 8x MG151/20s plus the 2x MG131s.
Early models had 4x 7.9mm I think, but I don't have any books with me here at work.
MK103s would be nice, definitely, don't get me wrong. Probably rare, and very heavy, but the 20/30mm combo and the 8x 20mm gun packages are what REALLY get me drooling!
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I think the consensus last time around was that the 8x20 was a one-off field mod.. The 6x20 looks like a factory config though, "B-2 U2/R5". There's two factory R setups with MK103s (B2 U2/R3 and B2 U4) so as far as I know they were as common/rare as any other.
The rear guns and equipment removal mod seems to have been flown a few times by at least one pilot. I think it was on these forums that someone showed documentation for it.
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Just curious, why would anyone want the Mig 3? I read up on it and it sounded like a 109G2 but a complete and utter failure....
p.s. FREE THE P-63 KING COBRA HTC!!!!!!!! :D
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The only reason I could think of is that it's insanely sexy.
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MK103s would be nice, definitely, don't get me wrong. Probably rare, and very heavy, but the 20/30mm combo and the 8x 20mm gun packages are what REALLY get me drooling!
Yes, 8x 20mms would be nice, but still...having a bomber with the possibility of 14x 50cals pointed forward, not to mention another 4x 50cals in two turrets, is rather nice. Couple this with a bomber with a speed of at least 355 mph, and ords of up to 4,000 lbs, and you've got a winning combination.
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Yossarian
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P-63 would serve so much better in AHII.
One of the most contraversial things about it in WW2 was that the #2 allied Ace Aleksandr Pokryshkin had changed from P-39s to P-63s in 1944.
There definately is a visable difference in the two planes. Tail section, cockpit, wing, length, wingspan.... etc.
P-63 = End to the La-7
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The ultimate plane.
Originally quoted from WideWing.
If one considers 420 mph at 21,000 feet poor performance. Let's face it, 95% of all engagements in AH2 are below 20,000 feet.
The answer to the La-7 is the P-63A Kingcobra. Similar climb and low-level speed, but the P-63 is nearly as maneuverable as the FM-2. Add four .50 cal MGs and a 37mm cannon.
These two fighters would be very equal except that the La-7 could not afford to turn-fight with the P-63, and the P-63 has a big range advantage, plus the ability to haul a 500 pound bomb (or a drop tank).
So, how fast does the P-63A climb? Well, for comparison, let's look at the F6F-5. It requires 7.7 minutes to climb to 15,000 feet. In contrast, the P-63A can get to 25,000 feet in 7.3 minutes! The P-51D requires near twice as long (13 minutes) to reach 30,000 feet.
When the Soviets first began flying the P-63, they found the tail to be weaker than that of the P-39. Bell developed a kit for strengthening the tail and Bell technicians made field modifications to those planes in service. That change was immediately incorporated into the production line as well.
Pilots who flew the P-63, and had time in the other major U.S. types, generally agreed that the P-63 was far and away the best performer at low to medium altitudes. Not surprising, the pilots flying it at the Joint Fighter Conference differed from rave reviews to outright dislike (the only thing the JFC ever proved was that every monkey prefers his own banana).
Since more than 3,300 P-63s were built, and it saw combat (with the Free French and Soviets) in far greater numbers than the F4U-1C or Ta 152H, I think it would be an excellent candidate for inclusion in the AH2 plane-set someday.
My regards,
Widewing
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No more American planes. We need more axis planes and Russian planes. Also a British tank or any tank actually. I think they should redo the planes that need to be done and not worry about adding another American plane. There's a lot of other planes and or ground vehicles that need to be added before even thinking about adding more American planes.
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No more American planes. We need more axis planes and Russian planes. Also a British tank or any tank actually. I think they should redo the planes that need to be done and not worry about adding another American plane. There's a lot of other planes and or ground vehicles that need to be added before even thinking about adding more American planes.
*smacks VansCrew* NO!
Plus, Russians helped design the P-63 for the most part :) Americans NEVER used it in Combat
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I hope we get a panther or regular m4.