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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: swareiam on August 26, 2008, 03:35:23 PM
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I'd like to see planes like the P-40E and the P-47D-11 enabled from CVs. These aircraft were successfully launched from aircraft carries in large numbers in the Mediterrean and South Pacific. :aok Of coarse the CVs were just transportation for the aircraft to their final destinations in most cases. But would still be cool for the MA.
What do you think?
Cheers...
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No
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No
:aok
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No
seconded
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No
Hmm, if they were launched in strength from them, and you can back that up... I don't see why not, although, if possible, I would like to see a small (maybe 5-7) perk cost for carrier launch... that is... if you can back it up :aok
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No, if more CV aircraft are wanted, then more CV aircraft should be added. There are still lots that aren't in the game.
Hmm, if they were launched in strength from them, and you can back that up... I don't see why not, although, if possible, I would like to see a small (maybe 5-7) perk cost for carrier launch... that is... if you can back it up :aok
There were delivered off of carriers at times, they did not launch for combat sorties off of carriers. As such, they should not be CV enabled.
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The planes that are not enabled are not... for a reason.
1. They were never historically used on CVs.
2. With the exceptions of some rare or modified aircraft.
3. They only serve as an emergency landing platform, other than what it was meant for.
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No, if more CV aircraft are wanted, then more CV aircraft should be added. There are still lots that aren't in the game.
There were delivered off of carriers at times, they did not launch for combat sorties off of carriers. As such, they should not be CV enabled.
I have seen sources saying that P-47s were used for CAPs repeatedly over some carriers ferrying them in the Pacific. I'll try and dig that one up. If it turns out that this is in fact correct, and that this happened a lot, then I'm all for this idea.
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Yossarian
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"NO"
Have a Nice Day! :D
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"NO"
Have a Nice Day! :D
Agreed, we need historically used CV planes before even thinking of this
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I have seen sources saying that P-47s were used for CAPs repeatedly over some carriers ferrying them in the Pacific. I'll try and dig that one up. If it turns out that this is in fact correct, and that this happened a lot, then I'm all for this idea.
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Yossarian
yea... how many landed on that deck? :rolleyes:
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How would you be able to take off with those planes anyway? I can barely take off with the CV planes alone, why would I want to try and master taking off in even bigger and slower planes?
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How would you be able to take off with those planes anyway? I can barely take off with the CV planes alone, why would I want to try and master taking off in even bigger and slower planes?
Full flaps, wep for teh win.
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Full flaps, wep for teh win.
Full flaps just bleeds E, you should know that. :aok
So, how I usually do it, hit WEP (0 flaps, you're able to grab speed faster) then 3/4 down the runway, add 50-75% flaps as needed for enough lift :D
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Full flaps just bleeds E, you should know that. :aok
So, how I usually do it, hit WEP (0 flaps, you're able to grab speed faster) then 3/4 down the runway, add 50-75% flaps as needed for enough lift :D
FYI - You need lift not E to get off a CV...you should know that.
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FYI - You need lift not E to get off a CV...you should know that.
I'm well aware of that, but I doubt you could get enough lift generated via flaps/elevators to get a p47...oh say d-11 off of a carrier at 50 mph, whereas, if you get your speed up to 100 mph, nail the flaps, you'll be down the Rway less, with the lift you need to get airborne, so, when done right, you should be able to get airborne faster...
:salute
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How would you be able to take off with those planes anyway?
Watch and learn how they did it. No cats in AH though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRGYXMs9n1s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRGYXMs9n1s)
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p39 yes and maybe a sea hurricane but no to the rest
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Watch and learn how they did it. No cats in AH though:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRGYXMs9n1s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RRGYXMs9n1s)
Dantoo,
Nice find :aok
For historical prospectives at least these two aircraft, the P-40 and P-47 were ferried by CV throughout the Pacific and Mediterranian, take the American invasion of North Africa "Operation Torch" for example. As the film link above shows the practical application of a shipboard catapault was used to make these operations a success. So hold off on the short sightedness, because its already been done. Besides what difference does it make if they launch from a carrier in the MA? Also, I didn't mention anything about adding more planes to the game. That was not the subject or intention of this post.
Wouldn't you really like to have a true Doolittle Raid in a SNAPSHOT or for a Squad night OP?
:salute
BTW, the P-39 has been enabled from the CVs recently because. WHY? A couple of months ago JU88's were enabled from CVs in the AvA arena. :huh
Hey, I don't have a problem with it. :cool:
Cheers...
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You beat me to that one! <S>
FYI - You need lift not E to get off a CV...you should know that.
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You beat me to that one! <S>
I'm well aware of that, but I doubt you could get enough lift generated via flaps/elevators to get a p47...oh say d-11 off of a carrier at 50 mph, whereas, if you get your speed up to 100 mph, nail the flaps, you'll be down the Rway less, with the lift you need to get airborne, so, when done right, you should be able to get airborne faster...
:salute
Adding...
Without a headwind, forward E is what will put enough air over your wings to generate lift, and I perfer to be off the Rway asap, so, get speed up to 100 mph, nail the flaps, you'll be down the Rway less, and airborne...
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p39 yes and maybe a sea hurricane but no to the rest
P-39? Do you even read about the planes you fly in this game? Name one time a P-39 took off from a CV for a combat mission and then returned to land on a CV. The only time planes like the P-39, P-40 and P-47 saw the deck of a CV was when they were being ferried to their theater of operation.
ack-ack
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Dantoo,
Nice find :aok
For historical prospectives at least these two aircraft, the P-40 and P-47 were ferried by CV throughout the Pacific and Mediterranian, take the American invasion of North Africa "Operation Torch" for example. As the film link above shows the practical application of a shipboard catapault was used to make these operations a success. So hold off on the short sightedness, because its already been done. Besides what difference does it make if they launch from a carrier in the MA? Also, I didn't mention anything about adding more planes to the game. That was not the subject or intention of this post.
Wouldn't you really like to have a true Doolittle Raid in a SNAPSHOT or for a Squad night OP?
:salute
BTW, the P-39 has been enabled from the CVs recently because. WHY? A couple of months ago JU88's were enabled from CVs in the AvA arena. :huh
Hey, I don't have a problem with it. :cool:
Cheers...
Those were one off missions and neither of those planes were regularly used on a CV in addition to the fact that neither of those planes were capable of landing on a CV. They were launched from a CV but not recovered on a CV.
ack-ack
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The 39 is a bug on newly-added (or un-retired) maps. Same reason B25s, Wirbels, M4's would be disabled.
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Adding...
Without a headwind, forward E is what will put enough air over your wings to generate lift, and I perfer to be off the Rway asap, so, get speed up to 100 mph, nail the flaps, you'll be down the Rway less, and airborne...
well smart guy fully load a p-47 and try going off a cv without full flaps. lemme know how that goes for ya, k.
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well smart guy fully load a p-47 and try going off a cv without full flaps. lemme know how that goes for ya, k.
I am saying; YES you will end up with FLAPS, but you'll end up off the CV with a HIGHER AIRSPEED.
You're rolling down the runway with WEP, NO FLAPS, about 3/4 down the Rway, PUT DOWN THE FLAPS, you'll be going 15-20 mph FASTER than had you STARTED WITH FLAPS...
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