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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: uberslet on August 31, 2008, 11:45:53 PM
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are the Jokers Jokers hated so much? watd we ver do to any of you...no reason for this post other than curiosity to know why some people hate us, and maybe me to understand you many people a lil better.
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are the Jokers Jokers hated so much? watd we ver do to any of you...no reason for this post other than curiosity to know why some people hate us, and maybe me to understand you many people a lil better.
i would venture a guess that someone in your squad managed to piss off someone...delibretly or not.......and that single person went around making enough noise, and it snowballed. top that off with the fact that your squad probably is pretty good at what you guys do.........and people will decide to not like yas, rather than just give ya a salute and continue fighting.
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i would venture a guess that someone in your squad managed to piss off someone...delibretly or not.......and that single person went around making enough noise, and it snowballed. top that off with the fact that your squad probably is pretty good at what you guys do.........and people will decide to not like yas, rather than just give ya a salute and continue fighting.
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least your honest, ty CAP for your honesty. :salute
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if your foundations aren't solid it makes a bad wall. ;)
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cuz they make it fun for the people in green and make it not fun for the people in red. Joker is a good guy as well as the rest of the Jokers and I guarantee that if they wore the rook or nit colors, those shunning them now would be in those missions or follow behind.
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are the Jokers Jokers hated so much? watd we ver do to any of you...no reason for this post other than curiosity to know why some people hate us, and maybe me to understand you many people a lil better.
For similar reasons other squadrons were/are, such as Birds of Pork, LCA, Freebirds, etc. Because, often instead of using their mammoth numbers to create fun situations, they use it to squish fun like a bug under a steel toed boot in various ways..
Also, a lot of Joker's Vulchers were formerly 418th Hornets, which for those who are not up on AH history, was the Squadron of Voss, the arch enemy of the community, kind of like Lex Luther except with an F16 and a scorpion bite. It's not entirely fair to associate Joker's Vulchers with Voss, but for those who lived thru that ugly period, it's hard to forget and not think of Joker's Vulchers as "Voss' Boyz Phase II". The fact that they fly the same and behave the same isn't helping either...
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behave the same way?..I dont recall them ever getting mouthy or thumpin their chests after a base take.
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but then again, I dont know how the 'voss" boys behaved
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are the Jokers Jokers hated so much? watd we ver do to any of you...no reason for this post other than curiosity to know why some people hate us, and maybe me to understand you many people a lil better.
I think you give the squad too much credit :)
In my experience, squads come and go. Any of the vets around here can list a bunch of squads who thought they were more then just a bunch of guys sitting at computers pretending to be cartoon fighter pilots. They start to think their $I%& don't stink, and that they matter or they're the 'bestest'. That or they think they're on to something new that no one else has done, and the cartoon ego's start taking in their own press releases and believe their own hype.
We're all just a bunch of dweebs and the sooner we all realize it the better off we are. You guy's will get there too and then what anyone else thinks won't really matter much and you won't take yourself nearly as seriously :aok
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Also, a lot of Joker's Vulchers were formerly 418th Hornets, which for those who are not up on AH history, was the Squadron of Voss, the arch enemy of the community, kind of like Lex Luther except with an F16 and a scorpion bite. It's not entirely fair to associate Joker's Vulchers with Voss, but for those who lived thru that ugly period, it's hard to forget and not think of Joker's Vulchers as "Voss' Boyz Phase II". The fact that they fly the same and behave the same isn't helping either...
418 were not the squadron of Voss, we had Metatron. I don't think anyone in 418 actually appreciated what Voss had done or really knew who Voss was when it came out that Voss was Metatron, hence the defence of squaddie at first, which is natural, and then subsequent silence. 418 were/are the finest individuals i have flown with in this game and shouldn't be painted like ^that. <S>
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People Hate ButtMuppets on the regular.
and we love it. :D
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Furbal= teh VOSS :O :O :noid :noid
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are the Jokers Jokers hated so much? watd we ver do to any of you...no reason for this post other than curiosity to know why some people hate us, and maybe me to understand you many people a lil better.
Fair enough question so from my perspective I'll answere. Feel free to draw my opinion to the whole of your squad being as you asked the question.
The good part first so the ego is assaged. The squad is fairly organised and can muster numbers for a mission. They can put up a good show from time to time. The squad is a base taking squad not just a furballer rinse and repeat squad. Some of the Jokers Jokers are fair to decent sticks. <not to be confused with cherry picking runners> Some are average and others...well!
Now to the point that interests you. It's not unknown for this squad to recruit from the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesspit of aces high. This shows either a poor lack of judgement or total disregard to squad members as a whole for the sake of what? .... squad over all score? Think about it.....why would a squad even contemplate recruiting players of a dubious charactor? It's not your ego getting bolstered is it.
Game play can be a little eastern block. Throw everything in even if their unarmed <skilless> and rinse and repeat. A what ever it takes attitude. Granted... not every mission is like that but when it is one can only assume someone is cracking the wipe for these suiciders.
Now the main point http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality or lack of. This is the single most destructive force for your squads err... calibre. Is it through poor judgement or immature reasoning I'm not sure. It could be one in the same but it's not big, it's not clever. I'm talking about spying and your squads keenness to use the information and act upon it. A poor lack of judgement that bleaches everyone of you. Like I told young ZooZoo.... watch who you rub shoulders with because the smell won't wash of.
You doth protest? Come on man! Next time the call goes out "NOE inb to xyz" or our "captured CV is parked at blah blah"....do yourself a favour and ask how they know. Also ask yourself Uberslet how many enemy missions your squad personally has busted these last few months. Is it a higher percentage than the Bishopes as a whole? This game ain't rocket science. Double accounts, side switching tell tale rat squeakers and private messages. If every squad used these underhanded methods the game would go to S^%t.
As a <blows trumpet> prominent player I get PM'ed about 10 times a year by side switcher spies. You know what I do? I PM them back telling them not to do that again and if they do I'll put their name out there and tell a friendly Bishop who's spying on them. What do I do with the information.......absolutely NOTHING....... it's called FAIR PLAY .
To summarise Uberslet some squads or individuals should be http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ashamed of their actions. Your wondering why your being tared with the same brush? Birds of a feather flock together mate. Combine underhanded game play, immaturity, dubious squad charactors, poor leadership morality and what do you have ? Take ya rose tinted glasses of for a moment and ask yourself....What impacts you personally here in Aces high and will it wash off?
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How can anyone play 383 hours in one month. Thats 16 full days of AH in 31 days.
Some Asians have died logging those sorts of hours. He really needs help :uhoh.
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Well said.
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418 were not the squadron of Voss, we had Metatron. I don't think anyone in 418 actually appreciated what Voss had done or really knew who Voss was when it came out that Voss was Metatron, hence the defence of squaddie at first, which is natural, and then subsequent silence. 418 were/are the finest individuals i have flown with in this game and shouldn't be painted like ^that. <S>
Yup, Furby, as I said, it's not entirely fair to the remaining honest folks from that unfortunate situation. But, the "Voss factor" combined with how the squad conducts itself generally in the MA today is largely why they carry the stigma the OP is talking about. They can't change the "Voss factor" as that is indelibly burned into the community's consciousness, but they can change the stuff Lynx is talking about, which would help a lot.
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cuz they make it fun for the people in green and make it not fun for the people in red. Joker is a good guy as well as the rest of the Jokers and I guarantee that if they wore the rook or nit colors, those shunning them now would be in those missions or follow behind.
oThe above quote could almost be credible if it didn't come from an oTw@o. oAll I here is sheep noises..bleat bleato. oLike I all ready said in this thread "birds of a feather flock together"o :rolleyes:
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Maybe if every time i kill or get killed by a joker they didnt immediately start blabbing on 200 and then up an la7 to race right back to the fight and go for the suicide revenge kill...
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wat are you smokin barnes...many of our members have 200 tuned, but dont say anything offense if they kill you. on the other hand, if you start with them i cant answer what they do, i dont have 200 tuned. when i joined jokers jokers, i was on a bad note with both the jokers, and the AH community as a hole with my mouth, generally speaking. with this next statement, im not saying you should join and try us im just saying simply my change of how the squad is from wen you hate them to when you join. before i joined jokers jokers, i plain out hated them, i liked some of the players, like b4buster, slammerx, and busher to name a few, but i hated many as well, Joker2 himself was one of those i hated. after i joined however, i went from thinking exactly what you think barnes, to realizing thye are a great squad, with respectable players.
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SPIES MEAN ITS ALL SPIES!!!! THERE WATCHING EVERYTHING. THEN END IS NEAR SPIES MAN ... FRICKING ARNOLD SWARTCHENGAR , ARMAGEDDON!
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quote uberslet
i dont have 200 tuned. when i joined jokers jokers, i was on a bad note with both the jokers, and the AH community as a hole with my mouth
oh man! was I bang on "birds of a feather flock together".
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wat are you smokin barnes...many of our members have 200 tuned, but dont say anything offense if they kill you. on the other hand, if you start with them i cant answer what they do, i dont have 200 tuned. when i joined jokers jokers, i was on a bad note with both the jokers, and the AH community as a hole with my mouth, generally speaking. with this next statement, im not saying you should join and try us im just saying simply my change of how the squad is from wen you hate them to when you join. before i joined jokers jokers, i plain out hated them, i liked some of the players, like b4buster, slammerx, and busher to name a few, but i hated many as well, Joker2 himself was one of those i hated. after i joined however, i went from thinking exactly what you think barnes, to realizing thye are a great squad, with respectable players.
Here.
Take the case of Banshee7. When he first came into the game under GOST208 he was a "product of his environment" and he'll even admit he was a cocky kid. He joined WoT and instantly behaved like he always has because of his new environment. He'll admit this after I pointed it out while he was relatively new to the game.
Joker2 and others have no qualms in showing their ignorance on 200. B4buster and I started off with a bang and are now civil. But you and your other squaddies make it a point to spew drivel on 200 at others and myself. Especially Joker2 and yourself saying "You're an ^^^." Sorry, but I'm not and if you need to: ask the BoP's, 80th, AoM, False Prophets and many other squads with whom I switch and wing with, you're not going to like their responses.
If you think I'm "hating the Jokers", you're giving yourself too much credit. I do notice a BUNCH of "light switch personalities" (Kaw1000 (which whom I met in Dayton this year), Busher, SirLoin, Atti11a and DaveyJ are the the exceptions) who will be fine one day and full of piss and vinegar the next.
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uberslut, I'm not saying that all your members blab on 200 but more often then not i see a joker on 200 arguing with someone else, even if you don't start the argument be the better person and end it.
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oThe above quote could almost be credible if it didn't come from an oTw@o. oAll I here is sheep noises..bleat bleato. oLike I all ready said in this thread "birds of a feather flock together"o :rolleyes:
Perfect example how ignorance is spread on the BBS and 200 as well. Now I'm not gonna snuggle with the jokers in my fluffy PJs but will offer a perspective that these sort of attacks are common when it comes to them.
People piss, whine and moan when they get vulched or outnumbered, but jump at the chance when they get the opportunity. Ive been playing for just under 2 years now and realize that what comes around, goes around. Do the best with the cards you have in your hand cuz complaining about it wont do you any good.
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On a few accounts I would kill a Joker just after upping, he'd whine and whine about how eh got "vulched", whilst 20 minutes later the same guy is at another field vulching.
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wat are you smokin barnes...many of our members have 200 tuned, but dont say anything offense if they kill you.
Then again some of them talk abusive smack to the point of being needlessly nasty. Don't try to take the high road here, it's not appropriate.
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Zaz,
We need your attention to the English language here...you're wasting time in that other thread.
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uberslut, .
Hmmm, was this to further the discussion or to antagonize a bit ? Mirrors are great tools for looking at ones self ;)
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Hmmm, was this to further the discussion or to antagonize a bit ? Mirrors are great tools for looking at ones self ;)
i think it was a lil bit of both... but at a glance my name looks like uberslut..
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i think it was a lil bit of both... but at a glance my name looks like uberslut..
Don't second guess this, whether I take an extended look or a glance it is still an E to me, see this for what it is uber !! It is a troll fishing for some hate----------> painfully obvious!!!!
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There are some of the Jokers who like to bad mouth other squads, even friendly squads. Lack of respect breeds a lack of respect.
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What you anti JJ's need to do is form a non-Bish skwad called "Joker Smokers". Keep your ears opened for the guy screaming "voolch voolch". :D
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What you anti JJ's need to do is form a non-Bish skwad called "Joker Smokers". Keep your ears opened for the guy screaming "voolch voolch". :D
idk if this is supposed to be an insult...but damn! :rofl
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Fair enough question so from my perspective I'll answere. Feel free to draw my opinion to the whole of your squad being as you asked the question.
The good part first so the ego is assaged. The squad is fairly organised and can muster numbers for a mission. They can put up a good show from time to time. The squad is a base taking squad not just a furballer rinse and repeat squad. Some of the Jokers Jokers are fair to decent sticks. <not to be confused with cherry picking runners> Some are average and others...well!
Now to the point that interests you. It's not unknown for this squad to recruit from the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesspit of aces high. This shows either a poor lack of judgement or total disregard to squad members as a whole for the sake of what? .... squad over all score? Think about it.....why would a squad even contemplate recruiting players of a dubious charactor? It's not your ego getting bolstered is it.
Game play can be a little eastern block. Throw everything in even if their unarmed <skilless> and rinse and repeat. A what ever it takes attitude. Granted... not every mission is like that but when it is one can only assume someone is cracking the wipe for these suiciders.
Now the main point http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality or lack of. This is the single most destructive force for your squads err... calibre. Is it through poor judgement or immature reasoning I'm not sure. It could be one in the same but it's not big, it's not clever. I'm talking about spying and your squads keenness to use the information and act upon it. A poor lack of judgement that bleaches everyone of you. Like I told young ZooZoo.... watch who you rub shoulders with because the smell won't wash of.
You doth protest? Come on man! Next time the call goes out "NOE inb to xyz" or our "captured CV is parked at blah blah"....do yourself a favour and ask how they know. Also ask yourself Uberslet how many enemy missions your squad personally has busted these last few months. Is it a higher percentage than the Bishopes as a whole? This game ain't rocket science. Double accounts, side switching tell tale rat squeakers and private messages. If every squad used these underhanded methods the game would go to S^%t.
As a <blows trumpet> prominent player I get PM'ed about 10 times a year by side switcher spies. You know what I do? I PM them back telling them not to do that again and if they do I'll put their name out there and tell a friendly Bishop who's spying on them. What do I do with the information.......absolutely NOTHING....... it's called FAIR PLAY .
To summarise Uberslet some squads or individuals should be http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ashamed of their actions. Your wondering why your being tared with the same brush? Birds of a feather flock together mate. Combine underhanded game play, immaturity, dubious squad charactors, poor leadership morality and what do you have ? Take ya rose tinted glasses of for a moment and ask yourself....What impacts you personally here in Aces high and will it wash off?
Well put! :salute sir
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Uber, while I was on your vox the other night I heard you going "Knights dont ever fight us back they just drop all the hangars and then take the base." Joker who I do have respect for, I just wished he would stay and fight because it is a fun fight when he does, quickly told you to shut it because he knows you do the same exact thing. If you guys cant get a vulch going due to too many uppers you drop all the hangars,every side does this. Another event that happened that made me and about 30 knights who were in my mission hate you was half your sqaud on 200 ranting on about spying my mission, this just shows that half of you are arrogant. Finally this is the big one, I get back from a great weekend of canoeing with alot of my friends and family and the first thing I see when i come in here is a threatening private message from Bosco saying if I dont stop he is gunna post something to embarrass me on the boards. First you cant embarrass me its just a game, second Ill just have fun milking my post score. I want to finish by saying that I do like some of the Jokers better then the others, Lucky is a squeeker but is more mature then most of you. Atti11a has been nothing but a good sport and nice when ever i kill or get killed by him. Joker has some attitude problems but I have DAed him and he did try to help me out a bit which just shows good personality. Kdweeb is hilarious and acouple of the other jokers I dont know well enough to like or dislike them. Im ranting but im just saying there is alot of reasons for people to hate you and this is just a few of them.
btw Bosco Im waiting for that post :noid
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Uber, while I was on your vox the other night I heard you going "Knights dont ever fight us back they just drop all the hangars and then take the base." Joker who I do have respect for, I just wished he would stay and fight because it is a fun fight when he does, quickly told you to shut it because he knows you do the same exact thing. If you guys cant get a vulch going due to too many uppers you drop all the hangars,every side does this. Another event that happened that made me and about 30 knights who were in my mission hate you was half your sqaud on 200 ranting on about spying my mission, this just shows that half of you are arrogant. Finally this is the big one, I get back from a great weekend of canoeing with alot of my friends and family and the first thing I see when i come in here is a threatening private message from Bosco saying if I dont stop he is gunna post something to embarrass me on the boards. First you cant embarrass me its just a game, second Ill just have fun milking my post score. I want to finish by saying that I do like some of the Jokers better then the others, Lucky is a squeeker but is more mature then most of you. Atti11a has been nothing but a good sport and nice when ever i kill or get killed by him. Joker has some attitude problems but I have DAed him and he did try to help me out a bit which just shows good personality. Kdweeb is hilarious and acouple of the other jokers I dont know well enough to like or dislike them. Im ranting but im just saying there is alot of reasons for people to hate you and this is just a few of them.
btw Bosco Im waiting for that post :noid
you know junky, your sketchy, you hate us sooo much, but yet wen you wer in the 361 those couple times, you came on our vox...skechty for someone who hates us so much. all of us may knock out bases entirely, however, nits do it without trying to fight at times, us bish do it too, but we at least try and fight for the base. rooks rarely do it so they cant really have a finger pointed at them for this, however nits seem to do it out of laziness at times. wat fun is taking a base with out fighting for it some? and that spying thing, i wasnt on, but who cares if people spy on your mission, its a game, its not a perfect little junkyII world, chiit happens, live with it, im not saying this was right, if we are even guilty of it, still have seen no proof, but i am saying if 200 is going to be such a fuss for you, why have it tuned??
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Thank you all for your post, most of you were respectful, and mostly, nice.
We make a mission the other night about 5 or 6 sectors away from the base, just so that we had ords and such. We get over the ocean and go 3 sectors across; the base that we are planning to take has a full Dar already set, and is heading to our sector, 3 sectors away, seems kind of odd? That mission gets busted and most of our bish are pizzed because our mission got spied on. We get a PM from an unknown charecter (don't know his name anyways) telling us that there was going to be a mission inbnd to such and such place. Out of revenge, we took our planes up and slowed the huge mission inbound. They still take the base but they still are all pizzed that they got a mission busted, same way that we felt.
I'm sure that Junky wouldn't have said anything about that, just so that he won't get disrespected on the boards.
LYNX, I would like you to guess again about "Double accounts" if we even got hint of someone in our squad with a double account, no longer would he be in the squad.
They only time I ever look on 200, is when I'm ganged crazy, or a score *hore killed me/killed him. anything about HOing, I PM the person, just becasue thats gonna cause a big one on 200. From there, I don't know wheather my squaddies or not, whine on 200.
We enjoy taking bases, who wouldn't? of course we do it more than others, thats how our squad is, and there is nothing thats gonna change that. Most people make "sterotypes" about how our squad acts.
I think the only reason why people don't like us, is becasue we got so many people that play constantly, such as myself. I think we have on average at least 11 people that are on during the night.
I just sent you one Junky.
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Bosco,
your mission out of 59 was blown by 2 things. 1st and biggest, your own CO Joker2 pm someone on
Knit side by mistake and said in message noe mission upping from 59.
we watched 59, i saw some dar bars appear/vanish so we knew it had launched.
then 2nd booboo was your Goon passing 2k from our CV.
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uuhhh you take the effort to PM abt a HO?
:noid
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1st and biggest, your own CO Joker2 pm someone on
Knit side by mistake and said in message noe mission upping from 59.
never known joker to say wat base the mission is upping from....
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never known joker to say wat base the mission is upping from....
wilddog1 (think was player) said on knit channel Joker2 must have PMed wrong name as he said he got
PM from him about the mission.
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anything about HOing, I PM the person
And you wonder why you're such a joke (no pun intended).
ack-ack
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I think the only reason why people don't like us, is becasue we got so many people that play constantly, such as myself. I think we have on average at least 11 people that are on during the night.
I personally, don't really care about the jokers, though they don't really like to stay and fight, some (not all) of the characters I just dislike, for many reasons already stated. Haven't really given it much thought, but if people don't like you, I'm sure it's not because you and others play alot. It probably has more to do with how you play and how you conduct yourselves as a group.....
somehow I feel this thread is less about the reasons why, but a chance to dispute those reasons, which leads to a wonderful place called nowhere. You can ask a question, but make sure you're ready for the answear....it's just something you can't change someone's mind about by telling them....you have to show them
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Now to the point that interests you. It's not unknown for this squad to recruit from the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cesspit of aces high. Think about it.....why would a squad even contemplate recruiting players of a dubious charactor?
Now the main point http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality or lack of.
I'm talking about spying and your squads keenness to use the information and act upon it. A poor lack of judgement that bleaches everyone of you. Like I told young ZooZoo.... watch who you rub shoulders with because the smell won't wash of.
To summarise Uberslet some squads or individuals should be http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/ashamed of their actions. Your wondering why your being tared with the same brush? Birds of a feather flock together mate
Combine underhanded game play, immaturity, dubious squad charactors, poor leadership morality and what do you have ?
Wrote this to some people who wanted to join a similar squad.
When looking for a squad it's important to fly with whoever they are for awhile before joining. If you like how they operate and can get along with their idea of how to have fun, go for it. After joining, if you see something you don't like or disagree with, don't waste your time trying to change it. Whatever the problem might be, it's not only something that only occurs in the game but a lifestyle.
I found a squad out there that knows how to warp on command. Some call it cable jerking I call it disrespectful and dishonorable. Other things I've filmed with distaste are bomber and fighter bailer's, spying and dubious behavior but it's their 15 bucks and you'll find quite a few of them out there.
As in every part of life, young to old, you will be judged by the people you surround yourself with since they are who you inspire to be like.
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all of us may knock out bases entirely, however, nits do it without trying to fight at times, us bish do it too, but we at least try and fight for the base. rooks rarely do it so they cant really have a finger pointed at them for this, however nits seem to do it out of laziness at times. wat fun is taking a base with out fighting for it some?
This is coming from a squad that does noe missions to empty bases. :rolleyes:
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Wrote this to some people who wanted to join a similar squad.
When looking for a squad it's important to fly with whoever they are for awhile before joining. If you like how they operate and can get along with their idea of how to have fun, go for it. After joining, if you see something you don't like or disagree with, don't waste your time trying to change it. Whatever the problem might be, it's not only something that only occurs in the game but a lifestyle.
I found a squad out there that knows how to warp on command. Some call it cable jerking I call it disrespectful and dishonorable. Other things I've filmed with distaste are bomber and fighter bailer's, spying and dubious behavior but it's their 15 bucks and you'll find quite a few of them out there.
As in every part of life, young to old, you will be judged by the people you surround yourself with since they are who you inspire to be like.
Well said Tool. I can agree to a point of what you say, but I do think that most squads today are being bashed for the actions of 1 or 2 players in their squad.
Birds of a feather fly together theory is true to an extent, but it does seem a bit rash to think that the squaddies are so called "blood brothers". We're just characters flyin a cartoon game. Im not gonna quit a squad because someones actions are questionable..its their own personable problem. I would just be in hopes that the CO will have enough dignity in the squad to deal with the problem. Bottom line..hate the player thats causing the problems..not the squad name.
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LYNX, I would like you to guess again about "Double accounts" if we even got hint of someone in our squad with a double account, no longer would he be in the squad.
I'm very pleased to hear of this cardinal rule but what about the other stuff? A quick refresh from my post
Double accounts, side switching tell tale rat squeakers and private messages
? Oh my...but you already stated it in your post......
We get a PM from an unknown charecter (don't know his name anyways) telling us that there was going to be a mission inbnd to such and such place. Out of revenge, we took our planes up and slowed the huge mission inbound.
.....so who are you holding responsible for this? Who is no longer going to be in your squad?
Which brings me back to what I already posted Combine underhanded game play, immaturity, dubious squad charactors, poor leadership morality and what do you have ? Take ya rose tinted glasses off for a moment and ask yourself....What impacts you personally here in Aces high and will it wash off?
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Well said Tool. I can agree to a point of what you say, but I do think that most squads today are being bashed for the actions of 1 or 2 players in their squad.
Birds of a feather fly together theory is true to an extent, but it does seem a bit rash to think that the squaddies are so called "blood brothers". We're just characters flyin a cartoon game. Im not gonna quit a squad because someones actions are questionable..its their own personable problem. I would just be in hopes that the CO will have enough dignity in the squad to deal with the problem. Bottom line..hate the player thats causing the problems..not the squad name.
oIn the words of John McEnroe..."you cannot be serious man"o. oLets review what you postedo.
oI would just be in hopes that the CO will have enough dignity in the squad to deal with the problem
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oSo when your CO is the problem what then?o oThats right, you wait for the CO to fall on his sword disbanding the squad and scattering squaddies to all four corners of Bishvilo oLeaving you to blinkered to see the laughter and come up with gems like ...to quoteo
oIm not gonna quit a squad because someones actions are questionable..its their own personable problem.
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oTalk about birds of a feather and tared with the same brusho. oYou cannot be serious mano.
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Well said Tool. I can agree to a point of what you say, but I do think that most squads today are being bashed for the actions of 1 or 2 players in their squad.
Birds of a feather fly together theory is true to an extent, but it does seem a bit rash to think that the squaddies are so called "blood brothers". We're just characters flyin a cartoon game. Im not gonna quit a squad because someones actions are questionable..its their own personable problem. I would just be in hopes that the CO will have enough dignity in the squad to deal with the problem. Bottom line..hate the player thats causing the problems..not the squad name.
"Blood Brothers is being "rash"? Hardly. Take my squaddie Boxboy28 for instance. I worked with this cat for almost 2 years. Not to mention those of whom I met at SHawk's house back in July. Bodhi included in here as well.
The majority of "friends close enough to be brothers" all agree that the Community is placed above "the game". It is a concept that some just don't seem to grasp.
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418 were not the squadron of Voss, we had Metatron. I don't think anyone in 418 actually appreciated what Voss had done or really knew who Voss was when it came out that Voss was Metatron, hence the defence of squaddie at first, which is natural, and then subsequent silence. 418 were/are the finest individuals i have flown with in this game and shouldn't be painted like ^that. <S>
well said <S> 418th / Jokers.
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oIn the words of John McEnroe..."you cannot be serious man"o. oLets review what you postedo.
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oSo when your CO is the problem what then?o oThats right, you wait for the CO to fall on his sword disbanding the squad and scattering squaddies to all four corners of Bishvilo oLeaving you to blinkered to see the laughter and come up with gems like ...to quoteo
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oTalk about birds of a feather and tared with the same brusho. oYou cannot be serious mano.
Id be offended but Its too hard when you cracked a smile. Ill send a :salute and hope you ll gain some respect for ppl and loose that 3rd grade "playground" mentality
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The majority of "friends close enough to be brothers" all agree that the Community is placed above "the game". It is a concept that some just don't seem to grasp.
This is VERY TRUE :salute
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I have nothing against the Jokers. One day Jokers were going to run a mission to Knits HQ and I said why don't you run a mission to P15 instead. Ghi put up a 38 mission and we took that base from 2 full dar bars of Rooks.
Thanks for the help Jokers!
Not too many squads don't have a mouthy individual or two. For some that is all they do his get on 200 and mouth off. My squad, Rolling Thunder, will jump on there any time one of our players is verbally attacked. Other than that our rules our to be respectful (eh pretty much anyway).
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I want a sqaud squelcher.................... ...oops this isnt the wishlist
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Hmmm thinking this over......I'm sure there's some fine members in that squad... maybe it's just a bad apple or two. Someone said joker2 gave them a hard time.... He's always been friendly to me *shrug*.
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Hmmm thinking this over......I'm sure there's some fine members in that squad... maybe it's just a bad apple or two. Someone said joker2 gave them a hard time.... He's always been friendly to me *shrug*.
Joker seems to be always mad on 200, but he is kinda fun to mess wth when he is whining, plus he will actually want to fight you more fair too.
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Joker seems to be always mad on 200, but he is kinda fun to mess wth when he is whining, plus he will actually want to fight you more fair too.
Maybe.. I've shot him down a time or two and he's never said a peep. I know whining... I do it myself. :D
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are the Jokers Jokers hated so much? watd we ver do to any of you...no reason for this post other than curiosity to know why some people hate us, and maybe me to understand you many people a lil better.
It is because you guys fly together as a team; nothing more. Look at how the LTAR's are villified and all they do is work together as a team win or lose. :salute
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How can anyone play 383 hours in one month.
WOW! I guess that's getting your $15 worth.
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are the Jokers Jokers hated so much? watd we ver do to any of you...no reason for this post other than curiosity to know why some people hate us, and maybe me to understand you many people a lil better.
I don't care if you guys run missions or take bases, that really doesn't really bug me and gives me something to do in regard to defending the base. I've given guys in Jokers Jokers crap over 200 but it's typically when you guys do the dweeby crap, then I'll chime in to say how much you suck. However that's not just saved just for the Joker Jokers, so don't feel so special about it... :rofl
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I'm a Bish and I don't even know which Bish are in what squads much less what the guys in other countries affiliations are (except for a few here on the BBs and some that I run into regularily).
I'd rather just fly around and kill stuff.
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but then again, I dont know how the 'voss" boys behaved
voss
:noid
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I don't care if you guys run missions or take bases, that really doesn't really bug me and gives me something to do in regard to defending the base. I've given guys in Jokers Jokers crap over 200 but it's typically when you guys do the dweeby crap, then I'll chime in to say how much you suck. However that's not just saved just for the Joker Jokers, so don't feel so special about it... :rofl
A classic example of "the pot calling the kettle black"
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quote from Bosco123
I'm very pleased to hear of this cardinal rule but what about the other stuff? A quick refresh from my post ? Oh my...but you already stated it in your post......
.....so who are you holding responsible for this? Who is no longer going to be in your squad?
Which brings me back to what I already posted
What would you do if you got a PM from an annomous person telling you that there was going to be a Jokers mission inbound to such and such place?
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What would you do if you got a PM from an annomous person telling you that there was going to be a Jokers mission inbound to such and such place?
well, acting on information given to should be seen as bad as the dork giving it to you. Spies wouldn't exist, if they didn't think they were doing something that others would appreciate. By acting on it, you only encourage the behavior, and are just as much a part of the whole spy issue. Of course then someone will say "if I don't use, someone else will," thats fine, at least you have removed yourself from the issue, and are no longer part of it.
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Am I alone in wondering why this thread has gone on for more than one page?
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People piss, whine and moan when they get vulched or outnumbered, but jump at the chance when they get the opportunity.
Ive been playing for just under 2 years now and realize that what comes around, goes around.
these two quotes are maybe why you catch some flak, after two years you should know that many of us do not like a place where the only things we can kill are things built on sod, or wheels down airplanes. I do occasionally kill all the flying red planes and take a vulch or two if goon is near, but to be Hoping, looking, planning or even waiting, for a chance to be in a horde and have no challenge whatsoever.......nope! :aok
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Am I alone in wondering why this thread has gone on for more than one page?
ooops, sorry I just read first two pages of it, and replied, will stop reading now! :t
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wat are you smokin barnes...many of our members have 200 tuned, but dont say anything offense if they kill you. on the other hand, if you start with them i cant answer what they do, i dont have 200 tuned. when i joined jokers jokers, i was on a bad note with both the jokers, and the AH community as a hole with my mouth, generally speaking. with this next statement, im not saying you should join and try us im just saying simply my change of how the squad is from wen you hate them to when you join. before i joined jokers jokers, i plain out hated them, i liked some of the players, like b4buster, slammerx, and busher to name a few, but i hated many as well, Joker2 himself was one of those i hated. after i joined however, i went from thinking exactly what you think barnes, to realizing thye are a great squad, with respectable players.
How do you know if you don't have 200 tuned...? :huh
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How do you know if you don't have 200 tuned...? :huh
You'll have a smile on your face :D
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Joker and his squad are a fun bunch to fly with and fly against. I've flown on Vox with the Jokers numerous times and I must admit they are one of the most competitive squads I've seen. They don't give up easily and stick together for the most part. They take getting shot down personal and usually try to avenge their death. Flying with them and most recently against them I realized how great of a squad they truly are. <S>
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Me and Joker2 have had our words, and still might in the future, :devil
but I did get to fight him in a hog here recently for fun in the DA and hes a pretty good stik. Plays the E nicely and will roll scissors. :aok
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:noid :noid
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What would you do if you got a PM from an annomous person telling you that there was going to be a Jokers mission inbound to such and such place?
Ridicule the person on Channel 200 for being a twit by sending me a PM busting some one's mission. Then I'd make fun of your squadron for being a limp wristed milk-runtard squadron.
ack-ack
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Ridicule the person on Channel 200 for being a twit by sending me a PM busting some one's mission. Then I'd make fun of your squadron for being a limp wristed milk-runtard squadron.
ack-ack
Holy SkyRock, those are some fun sounding words you just used, AKAK! hee hee :devil
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Read the sig
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What would you do if you got a PM from an annomous person telling you that there was going to be a Jokers mission inbound to such and such place?
Oh boy!... keep up and get with the program. From my original post that YOU already read.
As a <blows trumpet> prominent player I get PM'ed about 10 times a year by side switcher spies. You know what I do? I PM them back telling them not to do that again and if they do I'll put their name out there and tell a friendly Bishop who's spying on them. What do I do with the information.......absolutely NOTHING....... it's called FAIR PLAY .
Not only is it "Fair play" which I've now said twice, it comes down to this
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Morality Again from my original post.
A.H is a game but so is playing snap with a blind man.....you just don't get it do you. :rolleyes:
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well, acting on information given to should be seen as bad as the dork giving it to you. Spies wouldn't exist, if they didn't think they were doing something that others would appreciate. By acting on it, you only encourage the behavior, and are just as much a part of the whole spy issue. Of course then someone will say "if I don't use, someone else will," thats fine, at least you have removed yourself from the issue, and are no longer part of it.
Exactly. :salute
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Joker seems to be always mad on 200, but he is kinda fun to mess wth when he is whining, plus he will actually want to fight you more fair too.
joker isnt ever on 200....ive been tuned to 200 for the fun of it and seen some1 say sumthin about joker, he claims he doesnt see it, and he doesnt even say so much as "peep"
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Joker and his squad are a fun bunch to fly with and fly against. I've flown on Vox with the Jokers numerous times and I must admit they are one of the most competitive squads I've seen. They don't give up easily and stick together for the most part. They take getting shot down personal and usually try to avenge their death. Flying with them and most recently against them I realized how great of a squad they truly are. <S>
<S> Twenty, the Lynchmob is a great group of guys to fly under too sir.
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joker isnt ever on 200....ive been tuned to 200 for the fun of it and seen some1 say sumthin about joker, he claims he doesnt see it, and he doesnt even say so much as "peep"
This is incorrect. Just this weekend joker was arguing with a persomne and his primary reposnse to the guy was GFYS. The first word is Go and the last two letters stand for your self
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Oh boy!... keep up and get with the program. From my original post that YOU already read.
Sorry, but I don't take the follower position, when opritunity knocks, I answer.
I couldn't say that for most of you.
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joker isnt ever on 200
What's the wager? How about the loser of the "wager" walks away from AH2 for good, including Joker2? The question is, will Joker2 agree with said wager, since you are trying to speak on his behalf?
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Sorry, but I don't take the follower position, when opritunity knocks, I answer.
I couldn't say that for most of you.
You're having a laugh ain't ya. You're either side stepping the point or missing it totally. I kind of think things are a tad beyond your comprehension. You can't even comprehend the posts your reading and replying to for gawd sake. Na mate.....you are a full on follower if you can't decide between wrong and right, good an bad, black an white.
I suggest you read Plucks post again ---> well, acting on information given to should be seen as bad as the dork giving it to you. Spies wouldn't exist, if they didn't think they were doing something that others would appreciate. By acting on it, you only encourage the behavior, and are just as much a part of the whole spy issue. Of course then someone will say "if I don't use, someone else will," that's fine, at least you have removed yourself from the issue, and are no longer part of it.
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You're having a laugh ain't ya. You're either side stepping the point or missing it totally. I kind of think things are a tad beyond your comprehension. You can't even comprehend the posts your reading and replying to for gawd sake. Na mate.....you are a full on follower if you can't decide between wrong and right, good an bad, black an white.
I suggest you read Plucks post again --->
Na, I know what you mean totaly. Boldface isn't gonna help that. Weather you help the Spies or not, its gonna happnen anyways, again, weather we help them or not. Thats just how it works.
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Na, I know what you mean totaly. Boldface isn't gonna help that. Weather you help the Spies or not, its gonna happnen anyways, again, weather we help them or not. Thats just how it works.
No mate you don't understand anything.....that's how it's encouraged to work. Bit of a difference that you and your squad have a problem distinguishing. By your advocation of "spying" in the game we share, I'm drawn to the conclusion I'm dealing with an adolescent with some maturing to do. Which falls into place when considering the majority of the tell tale side switchers I've encountered. They think their doing me a favour PM'ing me info on Bish missions. When I tell them this behaviour isn't welcomed by me or the community their attitude changes. Have a guess at how many have persisted. Understanding that this may task you I'll take the agony of thought away......it's been a big fat ZERO.
The bottom line to the question by young Uberslet "Why?"......what your squad is doing isn't just spying it's being impolite to the AH community as a whole. By condoning this less than respectable behaviour you show a lack of comprehension for the prolonged outcome, a lack of maturity, a lack of respect and sadly a lack of fortitude.....that's why.
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The bottom line to the question by young Uberslet "Why?"......what your squad is doing isn't just spying it's being impolite to the AH community as a whole. By condoning this less than respectable behaviour you show a lack of comprehension for the prolonged outcome, a lack of maturity, a lack of respect and sadly a lack of fortitude.....that's why.
That's the exact point of the entire argument against spying.
I have flown missions with the Jokers many times as LynchMob and when I was a Screaming Devil. They are in fact a fun bunch to fly with, and I can say that I have never been privy to any unfair information while winged up with them.
Honestly, what's the fun in the game if you can't be challenged by all aspects of it?
The only ways I could probably condone spying would be if I were being paid to play or if it actually meant my life. And I don't see either of those coming about in the near future.
:salute Sportsmanship
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We have spied one time, out of the act that pur squad was spied on ourselfs. you all may think that we spy on our mission, but find one of us before you guys take a base, then you can constantly call us spies. Until then, find some other squad to pick on, that does worse than us. Obviously You don't understand, or lack that comprehnsion that we don't spy, only by retaliation of some sort. Were always taking your bases, and your feilds, not waiting like tigers just to run over any mission that comes near our bases. I'm sure that there is other squads that do worse then just take bases, and vulch.
I think its just becasue of our name, or how we do things in the MA, that people just wait for things like this to happen, so that they can find a way, to degrade a squad to such low standards as this.
I guess no one has anymore respect in these days as they used to, just seems unfair for the people who get caught up in this crap, for a squaddie who isn't even in this squad anymore, I have to take beating for my whole of the squad. I guess this is what makes people quit the game.
But anyways, this Topic is dead, lets quit posting all.
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We have spied one time pull the other one it's got bells on, out of the act that pur squad was spied on ourselfs. you all may think that we spy on our mission, but find one of us before you guys take a base or sinking captured Cv's, then you can constantly call us spies. Until then, find some other squad to pick on no one is picking on you. Your squaddie asked the QUESTION., that does worse than us. Obviously You don't understand, or lack that comprehnsion that we don't spy, only by retaliation of some sort make ya mind up thats like saying "my cars perfect except for the dent, the ripped seat and the knock in the engine". Were always taking your bases, and your feilds, not waiting like tigers just to run over any mission that comes near our bases. I'm sure that there is other squads that do worse then just take bases, and vulch. can't think of one.
I think its just becasue of our name, or how we do things in the MA bingo...actions speak louder than words, that people just wait for things like this to happen, so that they can find a way, to degrade a squad to such low standards as this.
I guess no one has anymore respect in these days as they used to oh really, just seems unfair for the people who get caught up in this crap, for a squaddie who isn't even in this squad anymore, I have to take beating for my whole of the squad. I guess this is what makes people quit the game and underhanded shenanigans.
But anyways, this Topic is dead, lets quit posting all. What?..no remorse...you just feel vilified
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We have spied one time, out of the act that pur squad was spied on ourselfs.
But anyways, this Topic is dead, lets quit posting all.
The two above sentences cancel each other out in any sort of semblance of logic. On one hand you "want the thread to die". On the other you get a bunch of whiners who whine "about spies" and "do it because someone did it to us". Yeah, that's precious isn't it?
One thing I hate in life is hypocrites. Goes to show you that even in a cartoon WWII Combat Sim, they are prevalent.