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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Dos Equis on September 09, 2008, 07:49:35 PM
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Unfit to lead:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GLWEDMLmjKk
But hey, what does he know? According to Meghan McCain, "No one knows what war is like other than my family. Period."
Here she is saying it:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMxp5UkeGCc
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Nothing we dont already know but I am pretty sure Obama is less cut out to be POTUS.
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Unfortunately for the case being argued it doesn't say much against him other then re-affirm his already well known bad temper.
Ok I knew that already.
Still undecided but I cant way I wouldnt welcome someone with a bad temper.
Might instill some well needed fear into those who would ally against us.
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Did you know that McCain was once shot down by friendly fire.
It was his plane, with McCain in the cockpit, the Zuni rocket hit on the USS Forrestal (CV 59) July 29, 1967. The result was 134 killed, 161 injured and 21 destroyed aircraft.
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He knew him when he was a POW. Big deal.
Doesn't mean hes the same person then that he is now.
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The stories of Bill Clinton's temper are legendary as well. Those who supported him are largely supporting Obama. I guess the temper being a bad thing depends on whether you are a democrat or not.
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Swiftboatz! Nevar forget!
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Low life liberals......bringing in someone who served with him to denigrate his reputation like that, they should be ashamed.
shamus
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Low life liberals......bringing in someone who served with him to denigrate his reputation like that, they should be ashamed.
Librerals should be ashamed,
the "only" thing republicans did was convince one tenth the population Obama is Muslim :rolleyes:
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Low life liberals......bringing in someone who served with him to denigrate his reputation like that, they should be ashamed.
shamus
And the repubs didn't do the same to Kerry?
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Low life liberals......bringing in someone who served with him to denigrate his reputation like that, they should be ashamed.
shamus
*cough* SWIFTBOAT *cough*
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And the repubs didn't do the same to Kerry?
He was sunk with his own damned torpedo. The fool.
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Unfit to lead?
Who you trying to fool. Find one former POW that speaks disparagingly about McCain and there will be tenfold that come fourth to support him.
McCain refused preferential treatment while being tortured in Hanoi that would have allowed him to experience a release to freedom months ahead of the rest of his fellow POWs.
Instead he chose to remain in captivity with his fellow POWs rather than abandon them there to suffer.
Bad temper? uhhhh....ya. You will need to dig your hole a full length deeper beyond what you have
already to even attempt to make a comparison between Kerry (unfit to lead) and McCain. There is no comparison.
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So the only thing this guy has against him is that when he knew McCain over 40 years ago is that he had a bad temper and wasn't religious. Wow that's really deep there dude.
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About Phillip Butler
Doctor Phillip Butler is a 1961 graduate of the United States Naval Academy and a former light-attack carrier pilot. In 1965 he was shot down over North Vietnam where he spent eight years as a prisoner of war. He is a highly decorated combat veteran who was awarded two Silver Stars, two Legion of Merits, two Bronze Stars and two Purple Heart medals.
After his repatriation in 1973 he earned a Ph.D. in sociology from the University of California at San Diego and became a Navy Organizational Effectiveness consultant. He completed his Navy career in 1981 as a professor of management at the Naval Postgraduate School in Monterey, California. He is now a peace and justice activist with Veterans for Peace.
About 600 POW's came home... what are the chances one or two of 'em were democrats? They also demonstrate disparate career paths in the service after repatriation. McCain went on to Command. This guy wandered off into military academia.
Speaks volumes in itself.
;)
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And the repubs didn't do the same to Kerry?
Kerry was an idiot though. Everyone who ever served with him in his platoon hated him.
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When the film started I half thought this was going to be a breakdown on psychological fitness like a post-traumatic stress analysis but the temper thing? They were ready to put Hillary in a year ago and she would make volcanos look tame by comparison and now they criticize McCain for it? Very disappointing yet very typical too.
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Low life liberals......bringing in someone who served with him to denigrate his reputation like that, they should be ashamed.
shamus
In all honestly though.
As I say about my father in law all the time (WWII vet)
The only ones who have the right to judge him are those he served with and faced those hardships with.
Now this guy has every right to feel about McCain whatever way he wants. He served with him.
On the other hand. You could probably find other people who served with him that have a different opinion
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In all honestly though.
As I say about my father in law all the time (WWII vet)
The only ones who have the right to judge him are those he served with and faced those hardships with.
Now this guy has every right to feel about McCain whatever way he wants. He served with him.
On the other hand. You could probably find other people who served with him that have a different opinion
Yea, but they wont report it.
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He knew him when he was a POW. Big deal.
Doesn't mean hes the same person then that he is now.
By the same token I made that very same argument as to his experience not necessarily qualifying McCain for being President.
I too said it was a long time ago and shouldnt be a factor.
Cant have it both ways
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Yea, but they wont report it.
Who reported it?
The first and only time I've seen it was here
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Low life liberals......bringing in someone who served with him to denigrate his reputation like that, they should be ashamed.
shamus
Your sarcasm was/is lost on most here, Shamus...
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Librerals should be ashamed,
the "only" thing republicans did was convince one tenth the population Obama is Muslim :rolleyes:
"You're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith"Barrack Hussien Obama
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He was sunk with his own damned torpedo. The fool.
When you say "his own torpedo", are you referring to his Anti-war activities following the end of his Active-duty, and subsequent return, from Vietnam?
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Oh now lets not forget the purple heart band aids and the swift boat veterans during the Kerry campaign. Na Republicans would never stoop so low would they?
oh but wait here...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vLwSaWB_G90
oh but no, the Republicans would never mock the service of a veteran..
http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/08/30/gop.purple.hearts/
(http://www.democraticunderground.com/top10/04/169_bandaid.jpg)
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A fellow POW speaks about McCain, indeed. I give you Colonel Bud Day:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bud_Day
Col. Day is the most highly decorated US veteran since Douglas MacArthur - MOH and everything else below. He was not only a fellow POW, he was John McCain's cellmate in prison. I read his biography last year:
http://www.amazon.com/American-Patriot-Life-Wars-Colonel/dp/0316758477
In it, Col. Day's account of McCain's behavior paints a picture of a man who was valiant in his resistance to the North Viet Namese captors, and in his leadership of others to also resist. This from a man who spearheaded the resistance movement - once escaping and making it overland through North Viet Nam almost to the DMZ before being re-captured.
I think I'll take this man's account as accurate. It confirms McCain's account. 'nuff said.
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Honestly, if anyone listened to Macs acceptance speech he said in no uncertain terms that he came away from VN a totally different person than he went. So basically this guy is saying that Mac was a selfcentered hothead. I think Mac himself acknowledged that in his speech. He also said that while he was a POW he learned the value of his freedom and has never forgotten it.
If the best they can come up with is that Mac was a selfcentered hothead when he was young (most young men are) and that former POWs don't live as long as "normal" people, they are in serious trouble.
This was a very, very lame attempt at "swiftboating."
(the old whitehaired dude gets my vote)
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A bad temper 40+ years ago. Pretty pointless video. And to state he's not fit to lead based on that video is just retarded. But hey maybe Obama can smile pretty and scare our nations enemies away.
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A bad temper 40+ years ago. Pretty pointless video. And to state he's not fit to lead based on that video is just retarded. But hey maybe Obama can smile pretty and scare our nations enemies away.
Actually his infamous bad temper is fairly well known all over capitol hill.
and while they are known more for having happened behind closed doors even with fellow Republicans.
Its occasionally spilled over in public
His temper is the one thing he didnt leave behind 40 years ago. LOL
If he posted here he would give Skuzzy a nervous breakdown LMAO
In his own words.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwTKM_u-7j4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCXOZpwT2ek&feature=related (LOTTA bleeps in this one)
And Even he admits to it here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlRkXlCJM9Q&feature=related
These last two are put forth by CNN. So take them for their worth.
but I havent seen nor heard anything that would lead me to beleive they were less then accurate.
Quite the contrary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSlAJ5hkAC4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B8sbH09gew&feature=related
I dont knock McCain for his Temper.
If in fact I see it as one of his strong suits.
Might make the rest of the world fear him like they did Regan.
And to paraphrase an old friend of mine.
I'd rather people fear him for what he is. Then love him for what he isnt
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Actually his infamous bad temper is fairly well known all over capitol hill.
and while they are known more for having happened behind closed doors even with fellow Republicans.
Its occasionally spilled over in public
His temper is the one thing he didnt leave behind 40 years ago. LOL
If he posted here he would give Skuzzy a nervous breakdown LMAO
In his own words.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HwTKM_u-7j4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCXOZpwT2ek&feature=related (LOTTA bleeps in this one)
And Even he admits to it here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlRkXlCJM9Q&feature=related
These last two are put forth by CNN. So take them for their worth.
but I havent seen nor heard anything that would lead me to beleive they were less then accurate.
Quite the contrary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSlAJ5hkAC4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-B8sbH09gew&feature=related
I dont knock McCain for his Temper.
If in fact I see it as one of his strong suits.
Might make the rest of the world fear him like they did Regan.
And to paraphrase an old friend of mine.
I'd rather people fear him for what he is. Then love him for what he isnt
Oh man So... did McCain get a fine from the FCC for that first video.. :rofl
On the more serious note his temper and out of the blue pick of Palin with out properly veting her just shows the guy doesn't think clearly while under pressure. I can't say I'd want someone with a temper like that making decisions in a time of crisis that might take us to war or even a nuclear war.
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Oh man So... did McCain get a fine from the FCC for that first video.. :rofl
On the more serious note his temper and out of the blue pick of Palin with out properly veting her just shows the guy doesn't think clearly while under pressure. I can't say I'd want someone with a temper like that making decisions in a time of crisis that might take us to war or even a nuclear war.
You should probably vote for Obama. He likely won't make any tough decisions over his pay grade.
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Oh man So... did McCain get a fine from the FCC for that first video.. :rofl
On the more serious note his temper and out of the blue pick of Palin with out properly veting her just shows the guy doesn't think clearly while under pressure. I can't say I'd want someone with a temper like that making decisions in a time of crisis that might take us to war or even a nuclear war.
Actually, with regards to foreign policy and domestic change on the hill and considering who the adversaries are, his reputation for ferocity will be a very good thing.
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Low life liberals......bringing in someone who served with him to denigrate his reputation like that, they should be ashamed.
shamus
part of politics and no different from swiftboat stuff.
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Absolutely no comparison between Obama and McCain on being ready to be President.
Obama is a greenhorn senator, with only complaits about the current administration and keeps trying to ty McCain to it. Thats all he's got. Now, dropping in the Polls because his inexperience is beginning to scare people, he is desperately trying to discredit McCain and Palin in any way he can.
Can any of you visualize Obama as president sitting across the table from, say Vladimir Putin or the leader of China and actually being decisive?
I just cant see that happening.
I can see McCain holding his own and protecting us and our interests though.
Why do all of our enemies support Obama- because they dont feel him as a threat.
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You're right. If it came down to MAD I'd much rather have someone whose finger on the button has a reputation for voting "present" on the tough decisions...
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Maybe the reason the rest of this damned world wants Obama to be president is because if he is elected it leaves us weaker then we were before. Those bastards!
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You should probably vote for Obama. He likely won't make any tough decisions over his pay grade.
:rofl
Or any tough decisions at all!!
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Absolutely no comparison between Obama and McCain on being ready to be President.
Obama is a greenhorn senator, with only complaits about the current administration and keeps trying to ty McCain to it. Thats all he's got. Now, dropping in the Polls because his inexperience is beginning to scare people, he is desperately trying to discredit McCain and Palin in any way he can.
Can any of you visualize Obama as president sitting across the table from, say Vladimir Putin or the leader of China and actually being decisive?
I just cant see that happening.
I can see McCain holding his own and protecting us and our interests though.
Why do all of our enemies support Obama- because they dont feel him as a threat.
Putin's gonna be hard to deal with for anybody. As can be seen with the Georgian crisis, He's too hard to predict-At one time, he was talking about sending troops' to Iraq to help us with the "War on Terror", and then turns' around, and invades one of our allies'.
As far as China...They kind of have us by the economic shorthairs. Dealing with them will not be like dealing with many other nations' at this time.
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Obama is a greenhorn senator, with only complaits about the current administration and keeps trying to ty McCain to it. Thats all he's got. Now, dropping in the Polls because his inexperience is beginning to scare people, he is desperately trying to discredit McCain and Palin in any way he can.
he's not dropping in the polls because his inexperience scare people, its because the RNC was less than a week ago and the nation still has Palin fever
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he's not dropping in the polls because his inexperience scare people, its because the RNC was less than a week ago and the nation still has Palin fever
you have your beliefs, I have mine.
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you have your beliefs, I have mine.
cool :cool:
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Soo... lets now hear about osamabama's heroic experiences as a "community organizer". So we can compare and contrast with McCain's military experiences.