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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: tapakeg on September 10, 2008, 10:57:45 PM
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In case you have not seen it............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsOe87PcKMo&feature=user (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsOe87PcKMo&feature=user)
Was Obama referring to Gov. Palin when he made his comment? The people who were behind him knew exactly what he was saying.
Then his big "ENOUGH" speech.
Typical Obama, I can say it, but you can't call me on it!!!
I like how the story shows McCain using the same line months earlier. Back then, yes it was just a saying and he was referring to the healthcare bill, not Hilliary. After her acceptance speech and the lipstick / pitbull joke, it was pretty much coined.
Just keep talking, this was your election to lose......................... ..........
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In case you have not seen it............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsOe87PcKMo&feature=user (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsOe87PcKMo&feature=user)
Was Obama referring to Gov. Palin when he made his comment? The people who were behind him knew exactly what he was saying.
Then his big "ENOUGH" speech.
Typical Obama, I can say it, but you can't call me on it!!!
I like how the story shows McCain using the same line months earlier. Back then, yes it was just a saying and he was referring to the healthcare bill, not Hilliary. After her acceptance speech and the lipstick / pitbull joke, it was pretty much coined.
Just keep talking, this was your election to lose......................... ..........
The shows not over til the fat lpiggy sings. RP has something brewing on the back burner. :aok
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Yeah, he has a big announcement soon
(CROSSTALK)
CAVUTO: No. But you, yourself, are not running? You, yourself are not running, unequivocally, as a third-party candidate this fall?
PAUL: No, I'm sticking to my guns on what I have said for the past year. You did ask me that question a few times during the year.
CAVUTO: Yes, I did.
PAUL: So, no, I am going to stick to that.
http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-09/ron-paul-announcement/ (http://www.ronpaul.com/2008-09-09/ron-paul-announcement/)
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In case you have not seen it............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsOe87PcKMo&feature=user (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsOe87PcKMo&feature=user)
Was Obama referring to Gov. Palin when he made his comment? The people who were behind him knew exactly what he was saying.
Then his big "ENOUGH" speech.
Typical Obama, I can say it, but you can't call me on it!!!
I like how the story shows McCain using the same line months earlier. Back then, yes it was just a saying and he was referring to the healthcare bill, not Hilliary. After her acceptance speech and the lipstick / pitbull joke, it was pretty much coined.
Just keep talking, this was your election to lose......................... ..........
True, in theory.
But who ever thought we'd be stupid enough to put\slide Bush in twice?
Can't blame the bank robber if he was left alone with the vault door wide open. <shrug>
Once shame on you, twice shame on me.
I have a feeling nothing has been learned, buckle up.
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McCain has used the "Lipstick on a Pig" phrase no fewer than 4 times in the past 2 years...repeatedly, and said it with DIRECT reference to Ms Clinton.
If you actually listened to Obama's speech, it was dealing with the issues of the campaign (Specifically, education and energy dependence), and not of the governor of Alaska. At no point did he reference Ms Palin. Not once. Apparently the repubs were just waiting to pounce on this one.
Typical political tactic, and probably the one they were waiting for when they vetted Palin (for that single day they vetted her, i mean). So, now we waste two more days of the last 53, not talking about a single issue confronting the electorate, and debate whether "Lipstick on a Pig" is a sexist remark, and whether it was actually meant to be so... and on an on... As McCain's chief strategist said plainly and succinctly, "this campaign will not be about the issues".
Keep on truckin GOP..... while you're at it, can i see a few more references to 9/11 please? I need to remember who was in control, errr asleep at the wheel, when people close to me didn't get to come home from an ordinary day at work.
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Clinton and Palin are both married, so it is Mrs., and not Miss.
Further, when you look at it, George W. Bush had been in office less than 9 months on September 11, 2001. The vast majority of the intelligence failures that allowed the events of September 11, 2001 to occur, happened a long time before Bush took office. Bush did not get up to speed as fast as he might have, most new administrations don't.
It's easily forgotten how big a mess was made of everything, including the normal transition of power from one administration to the next, was created by the train wreck that was the 2000 Presidential election. In fact, considering the bitterness and hatred directed towards Bush, on the part of the Democrats, especially Gore, the loser, who was Vice President, and Clinton, to a lesser degree, anyone who thinks the transition was smooth, and nothing was held back, is only fooling themselves. They had a lot invested in seeing Bush fail.
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Clinton and Palin are both married, so it is Mrs., and not Miss.
Further, when you look at it, George W. Bush had been in office less than 9 months on September 11, 2001. The vast majority of the intelligence failures that allowed the events of September 11, 2001 to occur, happened a long time before Bush took office. Bush did not get up to speed as fast as he might have, most new administrations don't.
It's easily forgotten how big a mess was made of everything, including the normal transition of power from one administration to the next, was created by the train wreck that was the 2000 Presidential election. In fact, considering the bitterness and hatred directed towards Bush, on the part of the Democrats, especially Gore, the loser, who was Vice President, and Clinton, to a lesser degree, anyone who thinks the transition was smooth, and nothing was held back, is only fooling themselves. They had a lot invested in seeing Bush fail.
(http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/7066/lipstickpighr5.jpg)
"I'm Karl Rove and I approve this message."
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Snip~ In fact, considering the bitterness and hatred directed towards Bush, on the part of the Democrats, especially Gore, the loser, who was Vice President, and Clinton, to a lesser degree, anyone who thinks the transition was smooth, and nothing was held back, is only fooling themselves. They had a lot invested in seeing Bush fail.
Are you now asserting that some members of the Clinton administration withheld vital intelligence info so a terrorist attack could be made on Bush's watch, to see him fail?
If so, I find your statement disgusting. About as bad as those that blame our govt for the 9/11 attacks.
If not, please clarify.
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Obama is falling apart. They omitted all the oh's you know etc. Frankly, after all the rhetoric that the press has made about Palin if there is any truth it is buried behind all the lies that the press and dems have put out there. The mantra is if one lie doesn't work tell another until one does. Still, don't you wonder why the press isn't saying anything about ACORN or why they don't look into Obama's past.
I doubt if McCain made those comments about a pig with lipstick. He just doesn't come across as that type of guy. Then again I have said things along the lines of what was I thinking. I will have to hear it from someone I trust. On the other hand you have Obama who has given the finger to Hilliary on natinal tv. You have him wining a seat in congress by someone breaking into a personal sealed document. Also they sent a full heard of henchmen to Anchorage with pockets full of money to find dirt on Palin. Again why arent they just putting an nth of that effort on Obama past.
Honestly, I think Obama has been some heavy drinking or on some meds (My Opinion). He is falling apart. Let's see Lipstick on a pig, bridge to know where etc. Hardly presidential material don't you think.
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Obama is falling apart. They omitted all the oh's you know etc. Frankly, after all the rhetoric that the press has made about Palin if there is any truth it is buried behind all the lies that the press and dems have put out there. The mantra is if one lie doesn't work tell another until one does. Still, don't you wonder why the press isn't saying anything about ACORN or why they don't look into Obama's past.
I doubt if McCain made those comments about a pig with lipstick. He just doesn't come across as that type of guy. Then again I have said things along the lines of what was I thinking. I will have to hear it from someone I trust. On the other hand you have Obama who has given the finger to Hilliary on natinal tv. You have him wining a seat in congress by someone breaking into a personal sealed document. Also they sent a full heard of henchmen to Anchorage with pockets full of money to find dirt on Palin. Again why arent they just putting an nth of that effort on Obama past.
Honestly, I think Obama has been some heavy drinking or on some meds (My Opinion). He is falling apart. Let's see Lipstick on a pig, bridge to know where etc. Hardly presidential material don't you think.
He's (McCain) used the exact same phrase at least 4 times, in four separate speeches.
Here's your proof with McCain. 2007.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPYkNQlJMM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPYkNQlJMM)
Another one. Different speech. 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMHlIfOTS1c&feature=iv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMHlIfOTS1c&feature=iv)
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He's (McCain) used the exact same phrase at least 4 times, in four separate speeches.
Here's your proof with McCain. 2007.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPYkNQlJMM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMPYkNQlJMM)
Another one. Different speech. 2008
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMHlIfOTS1c&feature=iv (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMHlIfOTS1c&feature=iv)
Ah he did. Stand corrected. Was Obama stealing his line. :rofl :rofl Way different context though and much better timing.
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Glue some wool on a cow, and it's still a cow.
How's that :devil
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Once shame on you, twice shame on me.
Clinton taught people a lot. That's why Bush won twice and why McCain is doing well now.
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I thought that the only thing you learn from history is that you don't learn from history.....
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Clinton taught people a lot. That's why Bush won twice and why McCain is doing well now.
Funny thing was, in late '03 and early '04 everyone was doing the same 'I HATE GWB' thing as now, and they elected him again. Seems that they hated Kerry worse... :lol
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BTW, "French Military Victories" gave me 191.000 hits on google. That's roughly half of U.S. Military victories on Google. However U.S. military defeats gave me 3.020.000 :devil
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When I first heard this story, I thought it was Obama's reference to Hillary. Anyone remember the Obama campaign distributing this enmasse on the internet? ;)
(http://oldbluejacket.com/images/lipstick_on_a_pig.jpg)
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Glue some wool on a cow, and it's still a cow.
I`m pretty sure wild Willie tried that also. :devil
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I don't think Obama was referring to Palin. And I think McCain looks like an idiot telling the media he did.
I was not surprised to see that Lipstick-gate was the first and biggest news story on NBC Nightly News last night. The media is sinking to new lows.
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Clinton and Palin are both married, so it is Mrs., and not Miss.
Further, when you look at it, George W. Bush had been in office less than 9 months on September 11, 2001. The vast majority of the intelligence failures that allowed the events of September 11, 2001 to occur, happened a long time before Bush took office. Bush did not get up to speed as fast as he might have, most new administrations don't.
It's easily forgotten how big a mess was made of everything, including the normal transition of power from one administration to the next, was created by the train wreck that was the 2000 Presidential election. In fact, considering the bitterness and hatred directed towards Bush, on the part of the Democrats, especially Gore, the loser, who was Vice President, and Clinton, to a lesser degree, anyone who thinks the transition was smooth, and nothing was held back, is only fooling themselves. They had a lot invested in seeing Bush fail.
Bush was a moron before he "won", and acted like a moron the whole time he was/is in office. He is a disgrace to this country and will always be remembered that way.
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It doesn't matter who uses that phrase ~ it is always meant in a derogatory manner toward the target.
If it wasn't meant in a deragatory manner, they'd use "a rose by any other name smells as sweet."
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Bush was a moron before he "won", and acted like a moron the whole time he was/is in office. He is a disgrace to this country and will always be remembered that way.
And yet he beat Gore and Kerry!
I see him a little different. Actually a lot different. He will be seen as a good if not great President in the next 5 to 10 years.
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I don't think Obama was referring to Palin. And I think McCain looks like an idiot telling the media he did.
I was not surprised to see that Lipstick-gate was the first and biggest news story on NBC Nightly News last night. The media is sinking to new lows.
Well, the crowd starting chanting "No Pitbull" right after...the crowd certainly thought he was referring to Palin. :rolleyes:
I do agree that this is a big media fanfare over nothing. Let's get on with the facts of where both candidates stand.
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Well, the crowd starting chanting "No Pitbull" right after...the crowd certainly thought he was referring to Palin. :rolleyes:
I do agree that this is a big media fanfare over nothing. Let's get on with the facts of where both candidates stand.
i don't think he meant it the way it came out, but he sure enjoyed the applause and praise from the statement afterwards! goes to show you he isn't ready, he doesn't even understand the gaff's he makes!
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And yet he beat Gore and Kerry!
I see him a little different. Actually a lot different. He will be seen as a good if not great President in the next 5 to 10 years.
Osama Bin Laden, stupid quotes, and the economy will haunt his legacy. :aok
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I`m pretty sure wild Willie tried that also. :devil
Who's wild willie?
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Osama Bin Laden, stupid quotes, and the economy will haunt his legacy. :aok
How are you measuring the economy? The economy did pretty well in the past 8 years, with the Dow hitting an all-time high, in the shadow of 9/11. Or are you now blaming the housing bubble burst on Bush too>?
Osama is nothing. We've taken out 75% of his immediate leadership. No attacks on US soil since 9/11/2001. Mission accomplished if you ask me.
Stupid quotes? Give me any president and I'll give you a stupid quote.
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Who's wild willie?
Bill Clinton.
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Who's wild willie?
(http://x-age.narod.ru/picture/super_fun/bill_clinton_23.jpg)
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I truly believe that Obama didn't intend on making the comparison to Palin when he made that comment. However, the public's perception was that Obama did make that remark in reference to Palin. I think it was a political slip-up on Obama's part. It was only ten days after Palin had made the " hockey mom, pitbull, lipstick" comment that got a huge response.
As far as McCain using the same phrase, Yes he has. But this was months before he had selected Palin as his VP.
Public perception is going to be a factor in this race.
Another thing. I don't care how many times McCain mentions 9/11. We should never forget that day and the fact that we are reminded during this presidential race doesn't bother me in the least.
Just my .02
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In the real world, away from the madness of the internet and the media and the candidates attempt to avoid the real issues by flinging muck at each other. Everyone knows the remark was not intended to be a comment on Palin.
It's remarkable that the most powerful country in the world can conduct it's most important election in this, frankly juvenile manner. :(
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In the real world, away from the madness of the internet and the media and the candidates attempt to avoid the real issues by flinging muck at each other. Everyone knows the remark was not intended to be a comment on Palin.
It's remarkable that the most powerful country in the world can conduct it's most important election in this, frankly juvenile manner. :(
Quoted for truth!
Well said cpxxx
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In the real world, away from the madness of the internet and the media and the candidates attempt to avoid the real issues by flinging muck at each other. Everyone knows the remark was not intended to be a comment on Palin.
It's remarkable that the most powerful country in the world can conduct it's most important election in this, frankly juvenile manner. :(
I think just the opposite is true. In the real world everyone knows he would never have said it if not for Palin's recent speech. But so what, politicians attack each other. No big deal, unless you're black or a female. They seem sensitive to me and no matter what you or I think he meant, we don't control their vote.
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Also remember the joke Palin said during her speech at the RNC:
"What's the difference between a hockey mom and a pig?
Lipstick."
Its just a joke people.
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I think he was trying to be folksy, and made a rookie mistake. Perhaps even a slightly intentional rookie mistake since the lipstick reference had to register at some level as a comparison to Plain's Hockey Mom comment. He just assumed that the misogyny card wouldn't be played as deftly as the race card tends to be played over slights, real or imagined.
The problem for the campaign is that Obama is no longer smooth, polished or in control. You can smell the fear and confusion. His advisors/team, Axelrod primarily, from the Chicago/Illinois machine don't have a lot of campaign experience outside of their urban base and it's starting to show.
Charon
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from the o'reilly interview.
o'reilly:: you seem to have a lot of friends that are far left.
obama:: i also have a lot of right wing friends.
o'reilly:: who?
obama :: ahh well ahh hmm
o'reilly:: name one.
obama:: ahh er ahh well ahh.
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I saw that too. But put Obama in a comforable evnironment like Oprah and Late Night, he does fine. But as soon as tough questions are put to him (that are not scripted), he falls short of the mark.
(And BTW, after this election is done, I hope Palin tells Oprah to take a hike! Oprah doesn't want to be biased, hell, she's already chosen a side. But then again, it's her show.)
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Bush was a moron before he "won", and acted like a moron the whole time he was/is in office. He is a disgrace to this country and will always be remembered that way.
After Clinton set the lowest of low standards that would be hard to beat. Bush is not my favorite president but I think he has dignity.
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Also remember the joke Palin said during her speech at the RNC:
"What's the difference between a hockey mom and a pig?
Lipstick."
Its just a joke people.
What she said was "pit bull". Yours is just a misquote. If it was an attempt at humor it could qualify as an attempted joke.
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Bush was a moron before he "won", and acted like a moron the whole time he was/is in office. He is a disgrace to this country and will always be remembered that way.
Moron was originally an English scientific term, coined in 1910 by psychologist Henry H. Goddard from the Greek word moros, which meant "dull" (as opposed to "sharp"), and used to describe a person with a mental age located between 8 and 12 on the Binet scale. It was once applied to people with an IQ of 51-70, being superior in one degree to "imbecile" (IQ of 26-50) and superior in two degrees to "idiot" (IQ of 0-25).
He has hardly acted like a kid of age 8 - 12 or like someone with a low IQ.....
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In the real world, away from the madness of the internet and the media and the candidates attempt to avoid the real issues by flinging muck at each other. Everyone knows the remark was not intended to be a comment on Palin.
It's remarkable that the most powerful country in the world can conduct it's most important election in this, frankly juvenile manner. :(
Welcome to the land of Trailer parks, Monster truck rallys, the WWE and Jerry Springer.
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He has hardly acted like a kid of age 8 - 12 or like someone with a low IQ.....
He acts like someone who needs people behind the scenes writing his speeches, and telling him what decisions to make, however. He doesn't do very well in live interviews.
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Also remember the joke Palin said during her speech at the RNC:
"What's the difference between a hockey mom and a pig?
Lipstick."
Its just a joke people.
She said 'pit bull'. Not Pig.
Your media programing is defective.
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He acts like someone who needs people behind the scenes writing his speeches, and telling him what decisions to make, however. He doesn't do very well in live interviews.
How long has it been since a major politician actually wrote their own speeches?