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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: chewie86 on September 24, 2008, 06:20:02 AM
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I know this is an old thread, I just want to probe the thoughts about this. I'm also sick to see Spixteens fighting vs early/mid war planes in the MA..
HTC could use less server with more capacity, IMO they could merge the 4 MAs into 1 or 2 MA with rolling plane set, but different Map.
I know there will be bad guys that dont want to quit flying their favourite plane just for a couple of days, and they will reply to this topic, cursing and sending me to hell.
I hope in some polite replies then.
Thank you
Thanks bad guys, you 2.
:salute
chewi
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Rolling plane sets give HT hives.
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RPS doesn't work. It's been done before. It's failed. In AH it won't be done. So sayeth Hitech!
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AvA is there for a reason. Won't happen in the MA. :aok
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The only thing that failed when there was an RPS was the player base. The whining and gnashing of teeth over not being able to fly a P-51D was deafening. Some of us loved it, but I agree with the others that it's not going to happen in any main arena.
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I doubt it will ever happen but I think the community as a whole would produce better fighting pilots if they were forced to fly some early war birds every now and again.
One of my favorite nights on AH2 was when the MAs were all down and 200 or more were furballing in the AvA. It was lots of fun.
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It will never happen. Never :)
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On the other hand, this is one of the changes that might lighten the load upon the MA whiners on how they can't find good fights and yadayada, since the disparity between plane performance is typically a lot lower with early/mid war planes , and the generally slower airspeeds, lighter armaments effecting combat to make the fights more prolonged.
In a midwar setup, planes like the 190As or the P-47s are among the fastest at deck, but with others trailing very close by. The Lalas are limited to two ShVak cannons, our Typhs with 1944 configuration won't be allowed in midwar setups, and potentially only the P-51B will start to pose as a big 'runner' plane, only in the final stages of the midwar setups.
Ofcourse, the same follows with jabos and bombers, since a typically much lighter bomb load will make it at least twice as more difficult to down carriers or shutoff airfields/Vfields, and such.
Something to think about.
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I'm also sick to see Spixteens fighting vs early/mid war planes in the MA.
I like fighting in the LWA's with EW/MW planes sometimes. In fact I fly a few almost every month. This month it's been the Bf109E-4, Bf110C, F4F-4, Spit I and maybe a few others.
If you want to fly EW or MW planes in the LWA's just fly them. They're as capable as anything else. Hell, I managed to land 3 kills in a Spit I this camp.
Besides that, if you want to match up EW to EW or MW to MW go to the EW or MW arenas. They need the people more than LW needs a rolling plane set.
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Not gonna happen. Jeez, remember the brouhaha over the RPS back in that... er... other MMO flight sim? Constant gnashing of teeth over the correct time placement of the planes, moans about acceptable substitutes from the plane set, whines of "why can't I fly what I want?", etc. Endless complaining. It was unpleasant.
IMHO, you should come fly the AvA or events like the FSO and Scenarios, if historic match-ups is what you crave.
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The only thing that failed when there was an RPS was the player base. The whining and gnashing of teeth over not being able to fly a P-51D was deafening. Some of us loved it, but I agree with the others that it's not going to happen in any main arena.
LOL if people don't play it fails ...get it?
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Yeahhh......... No
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sigh...
if someone wants a rolling planeset nothing stops them from playing EW for a few days, MW for a few days, LW for a few days, and then AvA for a more historical feel...
:noid
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The sins of the father are NOT visited upon the sons.
That was a mistake who's lesson has long long since been learned. Don't need it or want it here.
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Besides that, if you want to match up EW to EW or MW to MW go to the EW or MW arenas. They need the people more than LW needs a rolling plane set.
can't wait forever, ppl will not come
sigh...
if someone wants a rolling planeset nothing stops them from playing EW for a few days, MW for a few days, LW for a few days, and then AvA for a more historical feel...
Arenas are empty, I've never saw EW with more than 11 players
Not gonna happen. Jeez, remember the brouhaha over the RPS back in that... er... other MMO flight sim? Constant gnashing of teeth over the correct time placement of the planes, moans about acceptable substitutes from the plane set, whines of "why can't I fly what I want?", etc. Endless complaining. It was unpleasant.
IMHO, you should come fly the AvA or events like the FSO and Scenarios, if historic match-ups is what you crave.
I do when there are European-friendly time scenarios (now I'm in Sunday European Campaign)
AvA is there for a reason. Won't happen in the MA. :aok
AvA doesnt have a rolling plane set ... Does it?
I doubt it will ever happen but I think the community as a whole would produce better fighting pilots if they were forced to fly some early war birds every now and again.
One of my favorite nights on AH2 was when the MAs were all down and 200 or more were furballing in the AvA. It was lots of fun.
Sweet :D
RPS doesn't work. It's been done before. It's failed. In AH it won't be done. So sayeth Hitech!
I dont know when, I know ths game from the 2005 (2 weeks), I've been playing it for only 6 months (couldnt afford it before), there was not rolling plane set 3 yrs ago, may be when they tried there were not enough planes? I dont know just askin..
IMO this game is becoming like 1 of the others MMORPG (check achronym) where ppl who plays is the classic "gamer" plays for 2 or 3 months and then leaves. I would be happy to see more simulation, hystorical simulation, and less squeeker's game settings. Looks like the number of squeekers is growing :noid
I know seems I got a squeeker disease
Ok now u are free to curse me, I know u want to. Come on!! :t
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If it's historical simulation you want then get with a FSO registered squad.
Scenarios are awesome as well!
:aok
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If it's historical simulation you want then get with a FSO registered squad.
Scenarios are awesome as well!
:aok
sure, my mistake I meant flight simulation and historical simulation, btw FSO takes place at unfriendly time zone for me :(
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There used to be a map where the center Island only had Mid-war planes....but I guess folks did not like it. I thought It was cool Idea ....but what do I know...
helm ...out
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I dont know when, I know ths game from the 2005 (2 weeks), I've been playing it for only 6 months (couldnt afford it before), there was not rolling plane set 3 yrs ago, may be when they tried there were not enough planes? I dont know just askin..
In HiTech's previous game (Warbirds) featured a rolling plane set, [sarcasm] it was such a success that HiTech decided not to add it to this game. [/sarcasm]
ack-ack
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In HiTech's previous game (Warbirds) featured a rolling plane set, [sarcasm] it was such a success that HiTech decided not to add it to this game. [/sarcasm]
ack-ack
What do u mean with Hitech's previous game warbirds ? Isn't Warbirds the other WW flight sim competitor of AH ?
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HT built Warbirds before he graduated to building AH. He also had a hand in Air Warrior which started it all.
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Chewie by pointing out that the AvA is empty or near empty most of the time. You also pointed out that most people do NOT agree with you. Because if they did they'd be in the AvA.
Way to shoot yourself in the foot.
FYI Hitech built Warbirds, but made some questionable business decisions.
Ended up selling his share in it for enough to take a year and start from scratch.
Ever since then people have been leaving WB for AH.
In spite of the fact that WB has/had historical arena's, and RPS's.
Now what does THAT tell you?
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FYI Hitech built Warbirds, but made some questionable business decisions.
Ended up selling his share in it for enough to take a year and start from scratch.
Ever since then people have been leaving WB for AH.
In spite of the fact that WB has/had historical arena's, and RPS's.
Now what does THAT tell you?
that HT's milkshake brings the boys to the yard.
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Chewie by pointing out that the AvA is empty or near empty most of the time. You also pointed out that most people do NOT agree with you. Because if they did they'd be in the AvA.
A lot of us prefer the ava style matchups but go to the main arena when we don't already see the ava populated. It's a matter of getting something started. Yes, the main arena is great for new players who want to try everything out, and for the land grabbers, but the ava provides something different. It's like a really great cheeseburger: no matter how delicious it is, you still see more people lining up at McDonald's.
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A lot of us prefer the ava style matchups but go to the main arena when we don't already see the ava populated. It's a matter of getting something started. Yes, the main arena is great for new players who want to try everything out, and for the land grabbers, but the ava provides something different. It's like a really great cheeseburger: no matter how delicious it is, you still see more people lining up at McDonald's.
Erm no.. The LWAs would be more like burger King.....you can have it "YOUR" way. The ava is a snooty little boutique place place that tells what you want and how your going to get it.
It's all hamburger. :noid
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Chewie by pointing out that the AvA is empty or near empty most of the time. You also pointed out that ......
Now what does THAT tell you?
That AH is more for gamers than for ppl that want a very nice historical-flight simulator...
lol looks like Ghost was mad at me :P, now he will be more.
I didnt want to hurt u Ghost!
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BTW If I were anybody in HTC I would have kept a smaller, but solid, group of customers that really enjoy the flight simulation realism, who stays for long in AH, not 1 - 2 months and leave. Also when some1 new join the community they go to TA before hurting others ears and spam in country channel.. [/OT]
I really enjoy Scenarios, they got an historical plane set, infact I had the best fights in that!
Sunday European Campaign: Hurri and spits1 vs 109E = Awesome!
I would more people to try them, I'm sure they will change their mind
Did u guys take a look at Warbirds Freehost? I did.
just my 0.02 €
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100chewi
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LOL no I'm not mad at you chewie, I just don't like RPS's. They suck IMO.
HTC is about keeping a broader customer base, so they actually pay the bills btw.
Anything that keeps people from flying is a no no.
Looked at in that regard RPS just doesn't make sense.
By all means, get into FSO, best flying in AH.
Freebirds? LOL long long ago and far far away.
But with flat rate pricing there is no real reason for freehost. Was different when we were all paying 2$ an hour.
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I would get in FSO... not so Euro-user-friendly event's start time..
With thousands of subscribers they cant pay the bills? Ok.. Since u have more experience than me I believe you. I'm still doubtful tho :uhoh
Ok now I have your opinion about RPS. What about the others ? I wish to have a larger feedback about...
BTW I mentioned warbirds free host cause it still has an RPS and still having his subscribers, and despite of it is a mid 1995's graphic game it has hundreds of players (est europe or russians with old PCs)
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100Chewi
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Wow, I had no idea that freehost was still around. I like that they kept the RPS. :aok
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Well you can hardly use freehost as an example. They were a Russian rip off of Warbirds. You might not be able to say they killed Warbirds, but you can make a pretty strong point that they were partially responsible for its death.
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Yeah, I remember the implosion at agw when freehost came out. I never tried it. But I did look at their website a little while ago, and they make a pretty good case for doing what they did, i.e. the lack of development by iEN.
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Uh .. ?
A6M2 Jan 1940 Jan 1943
109E-4 Jan 1940 Jan 1943
Hurricane I Jan 1940 Jan 1943
Spitfire Ia Jan 1940 Jan 1942
B5N2 Jan 1940 Sep 1945
SBD-5 Jan 1940 Sep 1945
Ju 87B Jan 1940 Jan 1944
Bf 110C-4 Jan 1940 Jan 1942
Ju 88A-1 Jan 1940 Jan 1943
D3A2 Jul 1940 Sep 1945
Spitfire IIa Nov 1940 Jan 1944
P-40B Dec 1940 Jan 1943
Ju 87D Jan 1941 Sep 1945
Pe-2 Jan 1941 Sep 1945
Hurricane IIC Apr 1941 Sep 1945
Spitfire Vc Apr 1941 Mar 1944
Bf 109F-2 May 1941 Jan 1944
P-40E May 1941 Sep 1945
IL-2 May 1941 Jan 1944
F4F-4 Jun 1941 Sep 1945
Ju 88A-4 Jun 1941 Sep 1945
MC.202 Jul 1941 Sep 1945
P-39D Oct 1941 Sep 1945
Bf 109F-4 Nov 1941 Jan 1945
Mosquito IV Jan 1942 Sep 1945
B-25C Feb 1942 Sep 1945
Bf 109G-2 Apr 1942 Sep 1945
Yak-9 Jun 1942 Sep 1945 Red
La-5 Jun 1942 Jul 1944 Red
Bf 109G-2/R6 Jul 1942 Sep 1945
Fw 190A-4 Jul 1942 Jan 1945
Seafire II Jul 1942 Sep 1945
Spitfire IXe Jul 1942 Sep 1945
Typhoon 1B Jul 1942 Sep 1945
B-17F Dec 1942 Sep 1945
Bf 109G-6 Jan 1943 Sep 1945
Bf 109G-6/R6 Jan 1943 Sep 1945
P-39Q Jan 1943 Sep 1945
F4U-1A Jan 1943 Sep 1945
IL-2M Jan 1943 Sep 1945
Bf 110G-2 Jan 1943 Sep 1945
He-177A-3/R2 Jan 1943 Sep 1945
Ki-61-Ib Mar 1943 Sep 1945
La-5FN Jun 1943 Sep 1945
N1K1-J Jul 1943 Sep 1945
F6F-3 Jul 1943 Jan 1945
Mosquito VI Jul 1943 Sep 1945
B-25H Jul 1943 Sep 1945
A6M5b Aug 1943 Sep 1945
IL-2M3 Aug 1943 Sep 1945
P-38J Aug 1943 Jan 1945
Yak-9T Sep 1943 Sep 1945
Ki-61-Ic Oct 1943 Sep 1945
P-51B Oct 1943 Sep 1945
FM-2 Nov 1943 Sep 1945
B-24J Nov 1943 Sep 1945
Bf 109G-10 Jan 1944 Sep 1945
Fw 190A-8 Jan 1944 Sep 1945
F6F-5 Jan 1944 Sep 1945
Ki-84-Ia Feb 1944 Sep 1945
Bf 109G-10/R6 Feb 1944 Sep 1945
Fw 190F-8 Mar 1944 Sep 1945
N1K2-J Mar 1944 Sep 1945
P-51D Mar 1944 Sep 1945
F4U-1D Mar 1944 Sep 1945
P-47D May 1944 Sep 1945
B-17G Jun 1944 Sep 1945
Spitfire XIV Jul 1944 Sep 1945
P-38L Jul 1944 Sep 1945
Fw 190D-9 Sep 1944 Sep 1945
Bf 109K-4 Oct 1944 Sep 1945
Fw 190A-8/R8 Oct 1944 Sep 1945
La-7 Jan 1945 Sep 1945
F4U-4 Jan 1945 Sep 1945
Me 262A-1a Aug 1945 Sep 1945
Wouldn't this be fun ? :noid
even with more planes from different country ? :noid
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Well first off you have a never ending whine on what dates are chosen for each plane.
Second if I log into an arena and I feel like going fast, I want to be able to up a La7.
Not be stuck in early war.
If I want early war, I go to early war.
Mid war, head to mid war.
So no, I don't think its fun, and no, I know its not needed.
And no I won't bother to reply again because your just wasting time.
Its not going to happen, period.
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Second if I log into an arena and I feel like going fast, I want to be able to up a La7.
Not be stuck in early war.
Begs the question. In 1940 the 109E and Spitfire are fast; the La-7 doesn't exist. :P
Crying about "being stuck in early war" sounds similar to a time travel movie where you could get stuck in the 80s. :lol
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LOL no I'm not mad at you chewie, I just don't like RPS's. They suck IMO.
HTC is about keeping a broader customer base, so they actually pay the bills btw.
Anything that keeps people from flying is a no no.
Looked at in that regard RPS just doesn't make sense.
By all means, get into FSO, best flying in AH.
I would get in FSO... not so Euro-user-friendly event's start time..
Ok now I have your opinion about RPS. What about the others ? I wish to have a larger feedback about...
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100Chewi
Well first off you have a never ending whine on what dates are chosen for each plane.
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So no, I don't think its fun, and no, I know its not needed.
And no I won't bother to reply again because your just wasting time.
Its not going to happen, period.
Here we go ....
Who is askin to have a reply ONLY from you? I've already had your answer about, I'm asking for some others.
And yes there could be a never ending whine if someone of the AH Bosses doesnt bring an historical book (or a couple) and says " Accordingly to these books we decide these dates. period" ...
30 secs of thinkin about this huuuuge problem and this could be a solution.
BTW this is a Forum, it's a latin word. look for the meaning. I just want to discuss with the community, I dont even care if Pyro Skuzzy HT etc read this post, probably they will never do. I just want to probe AH community's thoughts.
Take it easy
Chewie
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Crying about "being stuck in early war" sounds similar to a time travel movie where you could get stuck in the 80s. :lol
LOL that was in the 50s ;)
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Here we go ....
Who is askin to have a reply ONLY from you? I've already had your answer about, I'm asking for some others.
And yes there could be a never ending whine if someone of the AH Bosses doesnt bring an historical book (or a couple) and says " Accordingly to these books we decide these dates. period" ...
30 secs of thinkin about this huuuuge problem and this could be a solution.
BTW this is a Forum, it's a latin word. look for the meaning. I just want to discuss with the community, I dont even care if Pyro Skuzzy HT etc read this post, probably they will never do. I just want to probe AH community's thoughts.
Take it easy
Chewie
You should search the forums on having a rolling plane set in the game. The community has already voiced its opinion many times and HiTech has also mentioned in a quite a few of those threads of his distaste for a RPS. Basically, threads like these are beating a dead horse, a RPS system is not going to happen in AH.
Also, as a member of this community (and a long standing one at that, far longer than you've played AH), Ghosth has the right to reply and as you mentioned this is a forum for those in the community to voice their opinions on. Don't be one of those players that ask for the community's input and then becomes dismissive when one posts an opinion contrary to yours.
ack-ack
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I know this is taking the idea a little out of the main idea, but i was wondering if AH could develope and employ an areana for WWI vintage air craft???
Anyone who proclaims himself to be a turn fighter, stall fighter or a furballer would love this type of areana. those were the true furballers, the trurning and stall fighting capabilities of the planes from that era was amazing.
just a thought
FLOTSOM
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so what's your voice AKAK?
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Chewie,
The dates you listed for aircraft contain a great number of errors.
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I know this is taking the idea a little out of the main idea, but i was wondering if AH could develope and employ an areana for WWI vintage air craft???
Anyone who proclaims himself to be a turn fighter, stall fighter or a furballer would love this type of areana. those were the true furballers, the trurning and stall fighting capabilities of the planes from that era was amazing.
just a thought
FLOTSOM
Planes of that war were just like planes in World War II. Some were BnZ type of fighters (Spad) and some were turn and burners (Fokker Dr.1), so you will probably see the exact same types of fights in that arena as you would in the WW2 arenas, albeit with much slower planes.
ack-ack
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so what's your voice AKAK?
My view is along the lines of the majority of the community, RPS sucks.
ack-ack
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No to RPS.
If I want to limit the number and type of opponent I come across I'll pick a different arena.