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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Phaser11 on September 24, 2008, 01:42:58 PM
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Oh my god! There goes the vote from the coal minning states. Maybe no one will notice.
http://www.reuters.com/article/environmentNews/idUSTRE48N7AA20080924?feedType=RSS&feedName=environmentNews&rpc=22&sp=true
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(http://www.reuters.com/resources/r/?m=02&d=20080924&t=2&i=6129790&w=192&r=2008-)
WE'RE ALL GOING TO DIE!
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Him first.........PLEASE!!!!!!! :aok :rofl
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I think that is great news. Like Martin Sheen, I would hope that Al Gore would take the lead and disobey civil laws in protest of these non efficient coal plants with his like minded fans.
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Well,
I give him this at least he is not dumb enough to do the nuke plants, that could get somebody shot!
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That's pretty much equal to inciting a riot. I say arrest him. :rock
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That's pretty much equal to inciting a riot. I say arrest him. :rock
I think James Earl Ray said the same thing as he was pulling the trigger.
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He also broke the law.
"If you're a young person looking at the future of this planet and looking at what is being done right now, and not done, I believe we have reached the stage where it is time for civil disobedience to prevent the construction of new coal plants that do not have carbon capture and sequestration,"
Gore told the Clinton Global Initiative gathering to loud applause.
Urging others to commit a crime is a crime in and of itself. I wonder if he will actually be prosecuted, or if the liberal state of NY will just ignore and continue on.
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"I believe for a carbon company to spend money convincing the stock-buying public that the risk from the global climate crisis is not that great represents a form of stock fraud because they are misrepresenting a material fact," he said. "I hope these state attorney generals around the country will take some action on that."
Numbnuts also said the above. Where are the "material facts" that global climate crisis is real?
Just because he won an Academy Award for a BS and fact skewed documentary does not make it a fact.
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I want Al Gore to just tell us what the best possible temperature for the Earth is. Is it warmer colder or just the same as it is right now?
Then after he refuses or we determine he doesnt know all the wealthiest individuals in this country need to close down for a year and not work do business buy anything or pay taxes on income they wont be making. Just a year thats all it would take.
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"it is time for civil disobedience to prevent the construction of new coal plants that do not have carbon capture and sequestration"
This is the perfect argument for more nuclear facilities.
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Burning coal has polluted our oceans and lakes with mercury, which bio-accumulate in the food chain. Why do you think there are advisories on how many fish you can eat a month?
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Al Gore chose his words carefully. Sequestration is the act of seizing property from the rightful owner under process of law. Had he said carbon-sequestration that would have been different...
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Is he going to bail out the people who take his advice and hire them all high priced lawyers, or will they all just be noble sacrifices to further his career?
I think he really has lost it.
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Burning coal has polluted our oceans and lakes with mercury, which bio-accumulate in the food chain. Why do you think there are advisories on how many fish you can eat a month?
Massive strip mining, poor techniques at tunnel mining, and topside separation of ore from the bulk was what put the Mercury and lead in the water.
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Massive strip mining, poor techniques at tunnel mining, and topside separation of ore from the bulk was what put the Mercury and lead in the water.
Nope:
Mercury is emitted into the atmosphere from facilities and vehicles that burn fossil fuel. After being emitted from smokestacks and tailpipes, airborne mercury can travel hundreds or thousands of miles before falling back to Earth through rain, snow and dry depositions. It can end up in our rivers and lakes, and can accumulate in the fish that we consume.
http://www.deq.state.ne.us/AirDivis.nsf/pages/A-3
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According to the Environmental Protection Agency (EPA), 40 percent of mercury emissions in the United States come from coal-burning power plants.
www.epa.gov
40% is not a majority.
I should have said contribution instead. Poor word choice on my behalf.
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When I have to club baby seals in my backyard and fend off polar bears from my trash cans then I might think Al Gore is correct...
Otherwise he's just another nuttjob.
Mac
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dang straight... the media and public schools are responsible for creating this false crisis. I wish algore would be arrested for inciting a riot, we are in the midst of an energy crisis and we are the 'saudi arabia' of coal... we need to use it whenever and wherever it would save oil
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Al Gore is hypocrite and a liar. Only Fox News was there when he arrived with a fleet of limos at a recent green rally after encouraging other participants to walk or ride a bicycle. Only a fool would give this man any credence.
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Al Gore is hypocrite and a liar. Only Fox News was there when he arrived with a fleet of limos at a recent green rally after encouraging other participants to walk or ride a bicycle. Only a fool would give this man any credence.
Fortunately for Al, he only plays to democrats and liberals, a party populated with fools and morons. They can't see the nose on their own face, much less a huge phony.
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ManBearPig!
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Al who?
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He also broke the law.
Urging others to commit a crime is a crime in and of itself.
Al Gore aside, what is your position on civil disobedience itself? I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt for now.
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Nope:
http://www.deq.state.ne.us/AirDivis.nsf/pages/A-3
Mercury is far too heavy an element even as a gas to go very far in the atmosphere. Mercury is a naturally occuring element and the current maximum limitations exceed the naturally occuring frequency of this element. This is a booby-trap left from Bill Clinton who intended to leave it for another President to deal with.
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Al Gore is a self-promoting fraud no different than the old corrupt televangelists that lined their pockets by selling snake oil to their followers.
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Mercury is far too heavy an element even as a gas to go very far in the atmosphere. Mercury is a naturally occuring element and the current maximum limitations exceed the naturally occuring frequency of this element. This is a booby-trap left from Bill Clinton who intended to leave it for another President to deal with.
I don't care how far it goes. I rarely eat tuna, I never eat farmed salmon, and I'd think twice before eating a shark or wild-caught striped bass.
http://www.edf.org/page.cfm?tagID=17694 (http://www.edf.org/page.cfm?tagID=17694)
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All the more for me! :D
EDIT: I went down that list. Environmentalists are going to scare you to death (literally). Most Americans and Europeans suffer from a lack of magnesium in their system. We have a lot of hypertension problems all over the world because of magnesium deficiencies and other health issues that are exacerbated by lack of proper nutrition and you can thank health organizations.
Mackerel is one of the best sources of magnesium. I guess its either let the lack of magnesium drive you the an early grave or die from naturally occuring elements. Failing that eat spinach! :aok
You want a conspiracy to think about its these health mandates designed to keep us all on pharmaceuticals for life.
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Gore is a delusional buffoon. It's scary to think how close he was to the presidency in 2000, and that he was only a heartbeat away for eight years.
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Al Gore aside, what is your position on civil disobedience itself? I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt for now.
When civil disobedience is promoted to alter anything that is not factually based and is not lawful, then I am against it.
When it is for the right and good of the people as put forth in the Constitution and Bill of Rights against wrongs to those, I am all for it. That is why the founders put forth those documents, so as to afford us protection.
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That's pretty much equal to inciting a riot. I say arrest him. :rock
Far from it, Rippy. Civil disobedience is a throwback to the 60's peace movement.
I got no problem with burning coal, if we can do it clean and efficient. I'd really rather see more nuke, wind and natural gas, in that order. The Pickens Plan has a lot of promise if we just start moving in that direction. This is a Renaissance period.
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Mercury is far too heavy an element even as a gas to go very far in the atmosphere. Mercury is a naturally occuring element and the current maximum limitations exceed the naturally occuring frequency of this element. This is a booby-trap left from Bill Clinton who intended to leave it for another President to deal with.
According to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Department, people will ignore blatant facts due to extreme cultural bias. There are tons of studies about the atmospheric release of mercury due to burning coal. Look them up for yourself. I recommend www.sciencedaily.com and searching "Mercury pollution".
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Far from it, Rippy. Civil disobedience is a throwback to the 60's peace movement.
Inciting civil disobedience is still against the law. Especially when the one doing the inciting is doing it based on half-truths and outright lies. As for the '60's peace movement, that was just more bullcaca from people that were breaking the law as well.
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It's amazing when you think about it, the democrats have now established a long continuous record of nominating phony fools for POTUS. You can point to Clinton (lie to Grand Jury, cheat on wife, etc), Al Gore ( too obvious to bother), John Kerry (same as Gore) and then Obama, the biggest Phony of them all possibly.
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All the more for me! :D
EDIT: I went down that list. Environmentalists are going to scare you to death (literally). Most Americans and Europeans suffer from a lack of magnesium in their system. We have a lot of hypertension problems all over the world because of magnesium deficiencies and other health issues that are exacerbated by lack of proper nutrition and you can thank health organizations.
These kinds of recommendations are based on hard science, and just because they come from scientists focused on the environment doesn't mean they're not true. The known health risks of consumption or exposure to mercury, methylmercury, and polychlorinated biphenyls are serious. I agree that seafood can be part of a healthy diet, but it's best to eat low on the food chain (mackerel is ok in this regard and so is wild salmon).
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Inciting civil disobedience is still against the law. Especially when the one doing the inciting is doing it based on half-truths and outright lies. As for the '60's peace movement, that was just more bullcaca from people that were breaking the law as well.
Emerson: What are you doing behind those bars?
Thoreau: What are you doing outside them?
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The first time one of Al's stupid hippies gets the business end of a fire hose, or a visit from a police dog, I'm pretty sure they'll rapidly lose their motivation.
There's about as much chance for Al's people to get after it as the "Recreate '68" people actually having some sort of impact.
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I think James Earl Ray said the same thing as he was pulling the trigger.
How do you know? Were you his spotter?
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Inciting civil disobedience is still against the law.
No, it isn't.
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Al gore has lost his mind? Didn't we already know that?
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No, it isn't.
Read the law.
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Al Gore has lost his mind.
Maybe he ate it?
:huh
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Even if inciting civil disobedience were unlawful, that's all the more reason to do it.
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Read the law.
Quote the law.
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Al is just doing his job as a community organizer.
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Quote the law.
Why? Look up the phrase civil disobedience. In the very first sentence you will see "refusal to obey law(s) that a group/individual does not agree with"
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Why? Look up the phrase civil disobedience. In the very first sentence you will see "refusal to obey law(s) that a group/individual does not agree with"
Again - I'll type slower so you can follow along - cite the exact law or statute, name the state, that says that telling people to commit civil disobedience is itself unlawful.