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Title: "lets not, and let 'em think we will.."
Post by: Hangtime on September 25, 2008, 10:44:04 AM
market soaring again today, all in anticipation of the pending free money gravy train from washington to wall street.

If washington keeps acting like a 'rescue' is imminent, and the market keeps soaring.. why bother with actually spending a dime on the mindless sheep that are so easy to dupe?

 
Title: Re: "lets not, and let 'em think we will.."
Post by: Denholm on September 25, 2008, 11:31:32 AM
Its like poker. You have to show someone that money will soon be theirs. Then you slap down the 4 aces. (Sorry if the game term is incorrect, I don't play cards, yet have heard plenty about it.)
Title: Re: "lets not, and let 'em think we will.."
Post by: JAGED on September 25, 2008, 12:15:01 PM
Its like poker. You have to show someone that money will soon be theirs. Then you slap down the 4 aces. (Sorry if the game term is incorrect, I don't play cards, yet have heard plenty about it.)

Never too late to learn.

Four Aces:
(http://engagingconflicts.com/wp-content/4-aces.jpg)

Not as good as a Royal Flush:
(http://www.nofeetexasholdem.com/sites/nofeetexasholdem/images/royal_flush.jpg)
Title: Re: "lets not, and let 'em think we will.."
Post by: crockett on September 25, 2008, 12:17:50 PM
Great.. I'll be even Steven again soon as FRE goes up another 3 bucks.  :rock

I knew I should have bought more when it was 40 cents a few days ago..
Title: Re: "lets not, and let 'em think we will.."
Post by: bongaroo on September 25, 2008, 03:01:00 PM
Never too late to learn.

Four Aces:
(http://engagingconflicts.com/wp-content/4-aces.jpg)

Not as good as a Royal Flush:
(http://www.nofeetexasholdem.com/sites/nofeetexasholdem/images/royal_flush.jpg)

If someone has 4 aces than the royal flush is impossible in the same hand... :uhoh  straight flush to the king works fine for the win though.
Title: Re: "lets not, and let 'em think we will.."
Post by: JAGED on September 25, 2008, 03:04:19 PM
If someone has 4 aces than the royal flush is impossible in the same hand... :uhoh  straight flush to the king works fine for the win though.

True, unless there's a wild card! :D

I was just stating the rank, but you are correct; not possible in the same hand...   :salute
Title: Re: "lets not, and let 'em think we will.."
Post by: bongaroo on September 25, 2008, 03:12:07 PM
I never play card games for money that involve wilds anymore. 

But you do have a point.
Title: Re: "lets not, and let 'em think we will.."
Post by: Carrel on September 25, 2008, 03:17:35 PM
Never too late to learn.

Four Aces:
(http://engagingconflicts.com/wp-content/4-aces.jpg)

Not as good as a Royal Flush:
(http://www.nofeetexasholdem.com/sites/nofeetexasholdem/images/royal_flush.jpg)

At a Holdem tournament a few weeks ago a guy had four aces and got beat by a royal flush. Worst bad beat ever.
Title: Re: "lets not, and let 'em think we will.."
Post by: JAGED on September 25, 2008, 03:19:29 PM
At a Holdem tournament a few weeks ago a guy had four aces and got beat by a royal flush. Worst bad beat ever.

Ouch! They were "all in" too, I'm sure...   :O :O :O
Title: Re: "lets not, and let 'em think we will.."
Post by: bustr on September 25, 2008, 03:28:22 PM
Hang,

The worthless paper still has to be flushed from the system. Wall Street numbers are only now and with paper that is backed with redeamable funding. The trading is a grab for low priced deals while everyone holds their breath. The bailout is to let everyone who holds the worthless paper to call it in and get compensation so the economy dosen't tank. The United States economy cannot survive it's bluff called on a 700b to 1tr pot and everyone knows that.......
Title: Re: "lets not, and let 'em think we will.."
Post by: bongaroo on September 25, 2008, 06:19:09 PM
At a Holdem tournament a few weeks ago a guy had four aces and got beat by a royal flush. Worst bad beat ever.

straight flush?  or do you have wilds in your hold 'em tournaments?
Title: Re: "lets not, and let 'em think we will.."
Post by: Carrel on September 25, 2008, 06:36:25 PM
straight flush?  or do you have wilds in your hold 'em tournaments?

Community cards, bud- probably two aces dealt down to player A, a suited king queen to player B,suited  jack ace nothing card on the flop, suited ten on the turn and ace on the river...It was at a televised tournament. It happened early so not many saw it live, but they sure talked about it afterwards.
Title: Re: "lets not, and let 'em think we will.."
Post by: bongaroo on September 25, 2008, 07:16:25 PM
whoops.  that was dumb of me.  stuck in 5 card draw mode.

 :o
Title: Re: "lets not, and let 'em think we will.."
Post by: Mr No Name on September 25, 2008, 07:23:07 PM
I hope like hell we do not do the bailout.  We can always regroup without further crippling ourselves with debt.
Title: Re: "lets not, and let 'em think we will.."
Post by: Elfie on September 25, 2008, 07:44:33 PM
I hope like hell we do not do the bailout.  We can always regroup without further crippling ourselves with debt.

How so? I would like to not have to do a bailout, but what other option(s) are there besides letting these companies go under?
Title: Re: "lets not, and let 'em think we will.."
Post by: Yeager on September 25, 2008, 07:46:09 PM
market soaring again today, all in anticipation of the pending free money gravy train from washington to wall street.

If washington keeps acting like a 'rescue' is imminent, and the market keeps soaring.. why bother with actually spending a dime on the mindless sheep that are so easy to dupe?

 
Perfectly agreed.
Title: Re: "lets not, and let 'em think we will.."
Post by: lasersailor184 on September 25, 2008, 07:48:39 PM
How so? I would like to not have to do a bailout, but what other option(s) are there besides letting these companies go under?

We could let them go under AND have a kegger.



Win win.
Title: Re: "lets not, and let 'em think we will.."
Post by: Elfie on September 25, 2008, 07:52:56 PM
We could let them go under AND have a kegger.



Win win.

Apparently the economic ramifications of letting them all go under could be felt world wide and not just here in the US where it will at the very least trigger a recession and at worst trigger an economic depression. Heck by some accounts it could wreck the US economy for years. I fail to see how that is a win.
Title: Re: "lets not, and let 'em think we will.."
Post by: Hangtime on September 25, 2008, 08:15:13 PM
Elfie.. don't let 'em spike yer kool-aid. There's more smoke 'n mirrors in this bailout than carters got lil green liver pills. Just as soon as somebody can actually explain why we should cut a check for 700 billion to the guy that was, in his last day job, the CEO at goldman sachs so he can bail out his wall street elite pals at the investment banks.. before we hand the better part of a Trillion or more to the same guys that screwed the pooch on their watch, lets have 'em expain in terms an average guy like me can understand.

And then I'll still tell 'em NO.

Nobody has once actually told us how bad the pooch has been screwed.. how many and how much are the defaulted loans? Who has 'em? How'd they get 'em? Since the folks that are already out on the street are getting no relief, since the folks that have already lost their 401k's, since the retirement portfolios are already wiped out.. WHAT will this plan do for them? Nothin.

Next.. the folks already in deep trouble.. any relief or write downs on those mortgages? Nope. Nada.

Elfie.. it's a damn shame.. sucks to be us. Seems better than 2 thirds of the country is up to it's bellybutton in debt.. on widescreen TV's, cars they can't afford, furniture they coulda spent less on or got used... toys they shouldn't have bought. If were gonna bail out the Corporations and not the folks that have already lost everything, if the majority of the brainless population is already out on a limb because they over extended and made piss poor choices, why should I bail their tulips out? You don't redeem sloppy performance of a money trust by handing over more money.. that's nuts!

No. Take yer lumps, America. Declare bankruptcy. Put off buying that house or hand the keys back if you bought more than you could afford... find another way get your monkey off yer back... without my money. I already wrote those ultra melons a blank check once... I still remember the thanks. This time around, I'm not signing anything.
Title: Re: "lets not, and let 'em think we will.."
Post by: lasersailor184 on September 25, 2008, 08:19:18 PM
Apparently the economic ramifications of letting them all go under could be felt world wide and not just here in the US where it will at the very least trigger a recession and at worst trigger an economic depression. Heck by some accounts it could wreck the US economy for years. I fail to see how that is a win.

It is better than stepping in and rewarding people's stupidity.  


It's rather like what Eric Cartmen said about getting a show canceled.  Once you get ONE episode canceled, then anyone with any grievance has the standing to get any other episode canceled.  Soon, the whole show will be canceled.

By bailing these dumb motherdiddlyers out, we are saying that we're going to spend OTHER PEOPLE'S MONEY to save MORE DUMB MOTHERdiddlyERS from their own stupidity.

Both the lenders and the lendees need to reap the consequences of their actions.  If we all have to pay for it by a recession, so be it.  We'll be better off in the end.

As long as we don't have a socialist at the reigns.  


Hell, that goes for pretty much anything.  As long as a socialist isn't in control, we're probably going to be fine.