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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Dos Equis on September 26, 2008, 12:41:07 PM
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Face it, she's not qualified. Say it. Say it out loud.
Reaction from the left:
Palin talks to Couric -- and if she's lucky, few are listening James Rainey - LATimes
Her third nationally televised interview, with CBS anchor Katie Couric, found Palin rambling, marginally responsive and even more adrift than during her network debut with ABC’s Charles Gibson.
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-onthemedia26-2008sep26,0,3542588.story
Shameless and clueless Sarah Palin David Horsey - Seattle Post-Intelligencer
How would Republicans be reacting if Gov. Christine Gregoire were the Democratic candidate for vice president and she claimed that, because Washington borders Canada and sends trade missions to Japan and China and Russia, she is, therefore, experienced in foreign policy? And what if Gregoire also claimed to be a seasoned commander-in-chief because she is titular head of the Washington National Guard? We all know how Republicans would react: they would roar with mocking laughter. And they would be absolutely right to mock such idiotic pretense.
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/davidhorsey/archives/149699.asp?from=blog_last3
Reaction from the center:
I’m sorry — Sarah Palin is a bad joke Jay Bookman - Atlanta Journal and Constitution
Palin is living, breathing proof that John McCain lies when he claims to put this country first over politics. She makes Dan Quayle look like Albert Einstein with a better haircut.
http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/bookman/entries/2008/09/25/im_sorry_sarah_palin_is_a_bad.html
Katie Couric carves up Sarah Palin Kansas City Star
Palin looks unprepared to be vice president (and certainly president)
http://voices.kansascity.com/node/2157
And even - just for the OC wingnuts - complete disdain from the far right:
Jake Tapper quotes conservative columnist Kathleen Parker:
Watching the CBS interview of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin did not exactly fill Parker with confidence:
"Palin's recent interviews with Charles Gibson, Sean Hannity and now Katie Couric have all revealed an attractive, earnest, confident candidate. Who Is Clearly Out Of Her League.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/ill-try-to-find.html
Babbling Palin ‘makes George Bush sound like Cicero’ Rod Dreher
a religious-conservative blogger who frequently appears on Fox News and was as recently as last week a Palin supporter, says the Alaskan Governor "was mediocre". Dreher says he felt "embarrassed" listening to Palin "regurgitating talking points mechanically, not thinking. [She’s] just babbling. She makes George W. Bush sound like Cicero."
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/uselection,0,babbling-palin-makes-george-bush-sound-like-cicero,46939
And finally, here is Joe Scarbourough this morning. I mean, Morning Joe has caved on Palin!
If she can't answer basic questions, that's tough. Katie did not ask her tough questions, her questions were very fair. Apparently Katie asked her, "what's the worst thing Dick Cheney did", and she answered "Shooting his friend with the gun". Us Elections aren't a meritocracy, about picking the most qualified people, it's obvious she has very little knowledge of US facts. She may be a good person and a good governor, she has also has a high approval rating, but is this is the best person you can find for Vice President? but what does this say about Palin and McCain's judgment? - Morning Joe
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She's even more qualified to be president than Obama is to be vp. Keep on ranting but you get only one vote.
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yes, she sure stumbled. It reminded me why I dont watch couric.
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Yeager,
Come on now...you thought Palin did well there???
At times it reminded me of that beauty pagaent contestant from South Carolina...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lj3iNxZ8Dww
Actually, found this....kind of funny...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ0xySe0uRw
:)
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yes, she sure stumbled. It reminded me why I dont watch couric.
I only watch couric to see them legs...she got some nice legs....finer than a new set of snow tires!!! :rock
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When asked about the bailout:
But ultimately, what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the health care reform that is needed to help shore up the economy– Helping the — Oh, it’s got to be about job creation too. Shoring up our economy and putting it back on the right track. So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americans.
I'm sorry but that's just gibberish. They've stuffed her head so full of talking points and sound bites they're just randomly spilling out. Palin is starting to remind me of James Stockdale.
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yes, she sure stumbled. It reminded me why I dont watch couric.
Lol...cuz, Couric asked her some tough questions. "Why do you think your job as governor of Alaska gives you foreign policy experience, as you have stated?"
About as much a "softball" as you can get.....underhanded, slow pitch, at that... and Palin whiffed on it.
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Couric is a Republican. Thats probably why they let Gov. Palin interview with her. There was nothing tough about the questions. She just didn't get to the point. She needs to learn to keep her answers short, strait to the point.
Her counting Alaska being next to Russia as foreign policy experiance makes me wonder if they (McCain Campaign) are doing anything to help her get up to speed. Does she have her own staff? Are they qualified?
Her answer on the bailout was rambling, bumbling and it seemed like she has trouble focusing the point. It would seem as though she was (in her mind) trying to drop in health care and some other things before getting to the point.
Right now I would have to say that Senator Biden is going to tear her up. Not that the VP, or presidents debate will make a difference in the election.
I think she is unprepared and it is a failure of her/ her staff, McCain's staff. It's like they launched her then sent her out with no prep.
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Couric is a Republican? :huh
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Couric is a Republican? :huh
YUP. As is Letterman.
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i bet palin knows there was no TV in 1929 and that FDR was not president in 1929.
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i bet palin knows there was no TV in 1929 and that FDR was not president in 1929.
and your point would be??
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i bet palin knows there was no TV in 1929 and that FDR was not president in 1929.
Ya but she counts it as her foreign policy experiance.
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Her answer should have been:
In Alas-ka (love the way she says that) we have Russia a stones throw to one side and Canada on the other. We're literally surrounded by foreign countries.. you have to drive through or fly over Canada just to get up here. When the Russians 'test' our nations readiness they do it here... and Alaska National Guard forces under my command are part of the first line of defense against Russian incursion. With extensive difficult negotiations with both Canada and the Oil companies I've recently concluded a pipeline deal that transects both Canada and Alaska.. negotiations that were not just profitable to Alaskans, they were beneficial to the United States and were firm steps towards helping Alaska in partnership with Canada and the Oil Companies to help reduce our national dependence of Foreign Oil.
She blew it. I also suspect she'll get the hang of it. I guess we'll see... ;)
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And Biden is so much better right? LMAO
Maybe its not either of them Maybe its Couric.
Seems to attract the top gaffs
"Part of what a leader does to instill confidence. Is to demonstrate that he or she knows what they are talking about. And communicates to people that if you listen to me and follow what Im suggesting. We can fix this"
Then to prove his point he said and I quote exactly
“When the stock market crashed, Franklin Roosevelt got on the television and didn’t just talk about the princes of greed,” Biden told Couric. “He said, ‘Look, here’s what happened.’” -Joe Biden :confused:
Here. You can see it for yourself
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTBZHf6WyG0&feature=related
And Palin doesnt have a clue?
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She's even more qualified to be president than Obama is to be vp. Keep on ranting but you get only one vote.
Please give details on this. I am very interested to know how she is more qualified than Obama.
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What the heck ever happened to the 'ignore' feature on this BBS?
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What the heck ever happened to the 'ignore' feature on this BBS?
I presume you're talking about me?
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Biden: "Stand up Charlie... C'mon Stand up and let everyone see you!" :lol
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Good Lord XX, are you really sitting there with your head up your rear end?
That phony useless Couric is so biased it is an embarrassment to the world of journalism. She hardly hides her bias, she wore black when George W was elected.
Fortunately, her crappy extremely biased news show is the lowest rated pretty much in history, so not many saw it I am sure.
You keep posting stupid crap, you will have to change your handle to something appropriate to a tool.
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Biden: "Stand up Charlie... C'mon Stand up and let everyone see you!" :lol
That was just to funny. :lol
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I am very interested to know how she is more qualified than Obama.
The truth is, from my perspective at least, that Obama would give Palin such a serious run for her money, veep on veep, that the contest should be ruled invalid. In fact, as of today Palin should be happy just to grovel in the shadow of Obama.
But the truth is, from my perspective at least, that Palin holds more promise as a potential force for the conservative movement than Obama is today for the entire liberal movement. In my opinion Obama is tapped out. He has achieved his ultimate nexus. He will never be much improved over what he is today (already maxed out), where as Palin has a tremendous amount of potential for the future. Just my opinion and I expect thats an easy point to argue over....Yet I would be impressed if four years from now Obama was exceptionally more refined than he is now.
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Her answer should have been:
In Alas-ka (love the way she says that) we have Russia a stones throw to one side and Canada on the other. We're literally surrounded by foreign countries.. you have to drive through or fly over Canada just to get up here. When the Russians 'test' our nations readiness they do it here... and Alaska National Guard forces under my command are part of the first line of defense against Russian incursion. With extensive difficult negotiations with both Canada and the Oil companies I've recently concluded a pipeline deal that transects both Canada and Alaska.. negotiations that were not just profitable to Alaskans, they were beneficial to the United States and were firm steps towards helping Alaska in partnership with Canada and the Oil Companies to help reduce our national dependence of Foreign Oil.
She could have spoke about the historical connection of Alaska and Russia. She could have elaborated on the trade missions to Russia that she briefly mentioned.
She blew it. I also suspect she'll get the hang of it. I guess we'll see... ;)
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She could have spoke about the historical connection of Alaska and Russia. She could have elaborated on the trade missions to Russia that she briefly mentioned.
So, you write her speech, then. I ain't on the payroll and I did better than she did. ;)
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Is it possible that they interview may have been edited just a little? :rolleyes:
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Is it possible that they interview may have been edited just a little? :rolleyes:
If that was the case, wouldn't the McCain "McHate the Media" Campaign have gone absolutely berserk? Screamed at CBS? Like they did at the NY Times when they found out a few things didn't jive? As it were, not a word.... and McCain went on CBS for a Couric interview the day after.
BTW, Couric is Republican.
Dontcha know now??? (my best Palin)
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If that was the case, wouldn't the McCain "McHate the Media" Campaign have gone absolutely berserk? Screamed at CBS? Like they did at the NY Times when they found out a few things didn't jive? As it were, not a word.... and McCain went on CBS for a Couric interview the day after.
BTW, Couric is Republican.
Dontcha know now??? (my best Palin)
Her sister was a Virginia state senator (D).
I have found no information regarding Katie Couric's political affiliation.
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She makes Dan Quayle look like Albert Einstein with a better haircut.
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Please give details on this. I am very interested to know how she is more qualified than Obama.
Wow, you've stepped up your request for details in the past week....yet you still fall short when asked for details behind your one-liners.
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i bet palin knows there was no TV in 1929 and that FDR was not president in 1929.
And there are 50 states instead of 57! I swear the Marxists/Liberals will do anything to promote Obama (Dumb) and Biden (Dumber) in their desparation to shove socialism down the throats of the rest of the country. They are why an increasing number of Americans consider being called "liberal" about the most degrading term there is.
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when Palin does it she is an ignorant hick unfit to be.. (LOL) VP...
When osama or biden does it.. it is either a loveable gaff or he was "tired".
Oh.. by the way.. there are 57 states.... 57 muslim states. If you had been raised around or as a muslim it would be easy to make that slip of the tongue..
lazs
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The questions and answers certainly are important. What's even more important, however, is what they don't show us.
Imagine that candidates A & B are interviewed for a few hours each. Both A & B say some pretty bright things, some pretty dumb things and the rest is all over between bright and dumb. You could air candidate A's brighter answers and make him look pretty smart, and you could air candidate B's dumber answers and make him look pretty stupid.
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Wow, you've stepped up your request for details in the past week....yet you still fall short when asked for details behind your one-liners.
What do you mean....falls short? He never even steps up to the plate heh.
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The questions and answers certainly are important. What's even more important, however, is what they don't show us.
Imagine that candidates A & B are interviewed for a few hours each. Both A & B say some pretty bright things, some pretty dumb things and the rest is all over between bright and dumb. You could air candidate A's brighter answers and make him look pretty smart, and you could air candidate B's dumber answers and make him look pretty stupid.
That's why these interviews should be done live. :rock
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The truth is, from my perspective at least, that Obama would give Palin such a serious run for her money, veep on veep, that the contest should be ruled invalid. In fact, as of today Palin should be happy just to grovel in the shadow of Obama.
But the truth is, from my perspective at least, that Palin holds more promise as a potential force for the conservative movement than Obama is today for the entire liberal movement. In my opinion Obama is tapped out. He has achieved his ultimate nexus. He will never be much improved over what he is today (already maxed out), where as Palin has a tremendous amount of potential for the future. Just my opinion and I expect thats an easy point to argue over....Yet I would be impressed if four years from now Obama was exceptionally more refined than he is now.
Well said, and Biden is tapped out as well.
I didn't see the interview with Couric. I never watch those shows, well for one I work. I heard her on the Hanity's radio show and well I wasn't totally impressed how she came across. She needs to learn to end a sentence. Having said that I think she is a great choice. You have to remember she took on a very corrupt bunch and won. She is overwhelmingly popular in her state. She has cut back on pork unlike her predecessors. She has been smeared relentlessly and carries on. I don't think I can handle that. Keep in mind too that the strongest steel has gone through the hottest fire.
I think if O'bama had taken all the crap that Palin has taken he would have folded. BTW, did you folks here why the Financial Crisis meeting folded? Because when O'bama came in he said some pretty off the wall stuff and it turned into a shouting match. He blew it!
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I didn't see the interview with Couric. I never watch those shows, well for one I work.
Let me sum it up for you then. If you hated Palin and wanted to see her fall flat this was your hour of victory. If you like the woman this was painful to watch, she was not in the game. The more important factor though, and the real damaging one is if you are undecided and were not familiar with her at all. These people are the ones going wtf? Bad interview and couric is old hat at this stuff, a pro with a political axe to grind. Palin has a lot of potential and needs to do a lot of maturing in front of a national camera. Bottom line for me is that this interview was probably one hell of a growing experience for Palin and no doubt one she will learn from, albeit painfully.
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when Palin does it she is an ignorant hick unfit to be.. (LOL) VP...
When osama or biden does it.. it is either a loveable gaff or he was "tired".
Oh.. by the way.. there are 57 states.... 57 muslim states. If you had been raised around or as a muslim it would be easy to make that slip of the tongue..
lazs
But Lazs, - she is a female :devil
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Let me sum it up for you then. If you hated Palin and wanted to see her fall flat this was your hour of victory. If you like the woman this was painful to watch, she was not in the game. The more important factor though, and the real damaging one is if you are undecided and were not familiar with her at all. These people are the ones going wtf? Bad interview and couric is old hat at this stuff, a pro with a political axe to grind. Palin has a lot of potential and needs to do a lot of maturing in front of a national camera. Bottom line for me is that this interview was probably one hell of a growing experience for Palin and no doubt one she will learn from, albeit painfully.
Couric..Ax to grind?
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Couric..Ax to grind? She's a Republican.
Yeah, and the Pope is Jewish.
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Palin sure seems to be like a typical beauty contestant bimbo. McCain's judgement says it all - a pathetic, political decision and a bad one at that.
And there were actually smart women Republican VP candidates, like Condi Rice. But maybe she was too black for the hicks.
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Palin sure seems to be like a typical beauty contestant bimbo. McCain's judgement says it all - a pathetic, political decision and a bad one at that.
And there were actually smart women Republican VP candidates, like Condi Rice. But maybe she was too black for the hicks.
the Left would have POUNCED on Rice like junkyard dogs on a cat that ventured across the fence--we'd have heard nada but how she effed up Iraq until election day. (And she's NOT a very good debater at all--I'm sure she's a lot more intelligent than she comes across on Sunday AM talk shows, but she routinely fails to make the case)
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Palin sure seems to be like a typical beauty contestant bimbo. McCain's judgement says it all - a pathetic, political decision and a bad one at that.
And there were actually smart women Republican VP candidates, like Condi Rice. But maybe she was too black for the hicks.
Keep dreamin'. McCain picked her knowing a lot of American women will identify with her more than any presidential candidate ever. Women are not a minority in this country.
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Condi Rice would smoke them like a cheap cigar. Of course, she's had a lot of time to adjust to the non-stop pressure from the leftists and their press lackeys.
Give Palin time. She was bound to put a foot wrong at some point, the same as Obama and Biden and McCain have done during their careers.
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Condi Rice was my first pick too. Unlike the op though I don't find Palin to be "a complete moron". She could hardly have gotten where she is if that were true. Sounds like more panic from the bitter and vitriolic left to me.
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the left would have done to Rice what they did to Powell, called her a "house negro".
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Condi Rice was my first pick too. Unlike the op though I don't find Palin to be "a complete moron". She could hardly have gotten where she is if that were true. Sounds like more panic from the bitter and vitriolic left to me.
Look where Bush got with his IQ.
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YUP. As is Letterman.
Are you sure about that? I always thought he was a Dem.
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Look where Bush got with his IQ.
Not sure what you mean. Bush's IQ ha been estimated to be around 130. That's probably pretty average for US Presidents.
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Not sure what you mean. Bush's IQ ha been estimated to be around 130. That's probably pretty average for US Presidents.
Well listening to him speak, I find myself thinking otherwise. He shows very little sign of actually understanding any of the issues on the table, and in addition his speeches seem to be at best disjointed.
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Not sure what you mean. Bush's IQ ha been estimated to be around 130. That's probably pretty average for US Presidents.
Jimmy Carter, on the other hand, is probably the most intelligent man (graduate-level work in nuclear physics) ever to occupy the White House
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Look where Bush got with his IQ.
would you happen to know what his (Bush) IQ is? I sure dont. Please do tell.
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Jimmy Carter, on the other hand, is probably the most intelligent man (graduate-level work in nuclear physics) ever to occupy the White House
I never would have guessed. He seems more like a peanut farmer to me :aok
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Most of the people working in the Federal Government undoubtedly have high IQs, so you would expect them to know what they're doing.
On the other hand, most are lawyers...
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Haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaavard Lawyers. And an old Mud Mover.
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I think they pronounce it "Haavahd."
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thanks.. I've always had trouble with the 'a' count and placement. ;)
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Not sure what you mean. Bush's IQ ha been estimated to be around 130. That's probably pretty average for US Presidents.
I seriously doubt his IQ is much above average.
OTH Jimmy Carter book smart, still lousy as President.
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It no longer amazes me how some people feel they are entitled to pronounce the "world's verdict" when all they're doing is voicing their opinion. State your position or opinion, back it up, and let it stand on its own merits, rather than claiming the "world agrees with me".
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Face it, she's not qualified. Say it. Say it out loud.
Reaction from the left:
Palin talks to Couric -- and if she's lucky, few are listening James Rainey - LATimes
Her third nationally televised interview, with CBS anchor Katie Couric, found Palin rambling, marginally responsive and even more adrift than during her network debut with ABC’s Charles Gibson.
http://www.latimes.com/news/printedition/asection/la-na-onthemedia26-2008sep26,0,3542588.story
Shameless and clueless Sarah Palin David Horsey - Seattle Post-Intelligencer
How would Republicans be reacting if Gov. Christine Gregoire were the Democratic candidate for vice president and she claimed that, because Washington borders Canada and sends trade missions to Japan and China and Russia, she is, therefore, experienced in foreign policy? And what if Gregoire also claimed to be a seasoned commander-in-chief because she is titular head of the Washington National Guard? We all know how Republicans would react: they would roar with mocking laughter. And they would be absolutely right to mock such idiotic pretense.
http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/davidhorsey/archives/149699.asp?from=blog_last3
Reaction from the center:
I’m sorry — Sarah Palin is a bad joke Jay Bookman - Atlanta Journal and Constitution
Palin is living, breathing proof that John McCain lies when he claims to put this country first over politics. She makes Dan Quayle look like Albert Einstein with a better haircut.
http://www.ajc.com/blogs/content/shared-blogs/ajc/bookman/entries/2008/09/25/im_sorry_sarah_palin_is_a_bad.html
Katie Couric carves up Sarah Palin Kansas City Star
Palin looks unprepared to be vice president (and certainly president)
http://voices.kansascity.com/node/2157
And even - just for the OC wingnuts - complete disdain from the far right:
Jake Tapper quotes conservative columnist Kathleen Parker:
Watching the CBS interview of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin did not exactly fill Parker with confidence:
"Palin's recent interviews with Charles Gibson, Sean Hannity and now Katie Couric have all revealed an attractive, earnest, confident candidate. Who Is Clearly Out Of Her League.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalpunch/2008/09/ill-try-to-find.html
Babbling Palin ‘makes George Bush sound like Cicero’ Rod Dreher
a religious-conservative blogger who frequently appears on Fox News and was as recently as last week a Palin supporter, says the Alaskan Governor "was mediocre". Dreher says he felt "embarrassed" listening to Palin "regurgitating talking points mechanically, not thinking. [She’s] just babbling. She makes George W. Bush sound like Cicero."
http://www.thefirstpost.co.uk/uselection,0,babbling-palin-makes-george-bush-sound-like-cicero,46939
And finally, here is Joe Scarbourough this morning. I mean, Morning Joe has caved on Palin!
If she can't answer basic questions, that's tough. Katie did not ask her tough questions, her questions were very fair. Apparently Katie asked her, "what's the worst thing Dick Cheney did", and she answered "Shooting his friend with the gun". Us Elections aren't a meritocracy, about picking the most qualified people, it's obvious she has very little knowledge of US facts. She may be a good person and a good governor, she has also has a high approval rating, but is this is the best person you can find for Vice President? but what does this say about Palin and McCain's judgment? - Morning Joe
I just saw this on youtube, and Couric was being a real b***h to her. I'm suprised Palin took that.
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Jimmy Carter, on the other hand, is probably the most intelligent man (graduate-level work in nuclear physics) ever to occupy the White House
And as someone who remembers the carter years all too well, he should have stayed in nuclear physics.
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the left would have done to Rice what they did to Powell, called her a "house negro".
If Colin Powell would have agreed to do the job, he would have swayed many a Connecticut Democrat/Independent, maybe even enough to take the state.
Sure, we don't have many electoral votes, but I'd imagine it'd be the same in other liberal-leaning states, too. He's one of the few Republicans held in extremely high regard up here.
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I would be curious to know if Powell was approached by either campaign for the job of veep.
On a related note: I am becoming increasingly miffed by the total absence of Palin on the media stage. Hate to say it but I am beginning to think McCain FUBAR'd on that one.
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Well listening to him speak, I find myself thinking otherwise. He shows very little sign of actually understanding any of the issues on the table, and in addition his speeches seem to be at best disjointed.
Ah toejam....I'll ask (knowing I will not get what I'm looking for)...give an example of an issue that you think he does not understand.
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And as someone who remembers the carter years all too well, he should have stayed in nuclear physics.
Lol I remember in 10th grade, all the dumbarse jolly-do-gooder kids who just KNEW he was best thing since sliced bread. Even at 15, I knew he would suck. (I ALso remember people buying crappy used cars because they came with a full tank of gas :aok ...handy thing since most folks couldn't get any due to the genius's price controls
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Lol I remember in 10th grade, all the dumbarse jolly-do-gooder kids who just KNEW he was best thing since sliced bread. Even at 19, I knew he would suck.
:aok
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Carrel, just because it took you until you were 19 to make the tenth grade doesn't mean the same applies to everyone.
But it does explain a lot of what you post.
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Carrel, just because it took you until you were 19 to make the tenth grade doesn't mean the same applies to everyone.
But it does explain a lot of what you post.
Thanks man...10th grade was the hardest 3 years of my education. I was proud.
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Jimmy Carter, on the other hand, is probably the most intelligent man (graduate-level work in nuclear physics) ever to occupy the White House
Just to be precise, Jimmy Carter, during work in the Navy nuclear submarine program, completed a non-credit introductory course in nuclear reactor power at Union College starting in March 1953.
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Condi Rice was my first pick too. Unlike the op though I don't find Palin to be "a complete moron". She could hardly have gotten where she is if that were true. Sounds like more panic from the bitter and vitriolic left to me.
Ditto, I think Condi would have whipped them all. However I agree with you on Palin too. She's tough! She has been through more of that trashie left side than anyone else. Bitter left is right!!
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Condi Rice never earned any confidence from me. She does not know how to handle the job she has and has proven that time and again... She was window dressing much the same as Palin. I actually like Palin but during a mccain administration she will be little more than a roving ambassador of gripping and grinning.