oh man!....you gone an done it now.
Schlowy if your reading this PM me if you want some help/training- i really don't think you're a bad guy, merely frustrated.
How very optimistic .....no offence meant mate. Some how I'm reminded of the village short of a certain individual. There's a full load short of a brick. In short the pencil sharpener is missing.
A code fragment that supposedly is not in the game.
if(!(HardPnt->OwnerFlags & waOF_FILM_LAUNCH))
{
Weapon->BulletCasing = HardPnt->BulletCasing;
Weapon->HardPntFlags = HardPnt->GroupFlags;
}
Weapon->FirstUpdateTimeInc = 0;
if(Clk->dblTime - HardPnt->ReleaseTime >= 0.00001)
{
Weapon->FirstUpdateTimeInc = Clk->dblTime - HardPnt->ReleaseTime;
}
if(Weapon->WeaponClass->Procs->Launch != NULL)
{
Rtn = Weapon->WeaponClass->Procs->Launch(Weapon,HardPnt,Clk);
}
/*
** Calc the energy for the wepone recoil
*/
HardPnt->LaunchForceSum += Weapon->WeaponClass->SimParams.ProjectileWeight *
Weapon->WeaponClass->SimParams.InitialSpeed * madOOGRAVITY;
Warming up for the weekend lock-down/PNG, are we?Certainly not. I am trying to educate the poor soul on how much detail HTC has incorporated into this game.
How can anyone who spells as bad as HiTech type in coad like that and actually get it to work?
A code fragment that supposedly is not in the game.
if(!(HardPnt->OwnerFlags & waOF_FILM_LAUNCH))
{
Weapon->BulletCasing = HardPnt->BulletCasing;
Weapon->HardPntFlags = HardPnt->GroupFlags;
}
Weapon->FirstUpdateTimeInc = 0;
if(Clk->dblTime - HardPnt->ReleaseTime >= 0.00001)
{
Weapon->FirstUpdateTimeInc = Clk->dblTime - HardPnt->ReleaseTime;
}
if(Weapon->WeaponClass->Procs->Launch != NULL)
{
Rtn = Weapon->WeaponClass->Procs->Launch(Weapon,HardPnt,Clk);
}
/*
** Calc the energy for the wepone recoil
*/
HardPnt->LaunchForceSum += Weapon->WeaponClass->SimParams.ProjectileWeight *
Weapon->WeaponClass->SimParams.InitialSpeed * madOOGRAVITY;
:confused:Was it ever straight? :noid
I bent my wookie.
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You could have used brakes to affect that stuff Bronk... :huh
LOL AW flight models are relevant?
Maybe to you since the 109F4 there climbed at like 6,000ft/min.
:lol
Stang, look man, everyone claimed all this and all that back when, reality! Some of the data may have even been copy/pasted... the game 'Engine' is obviosly new but who knows, end result is were still shooting at c47's paratroopers ya know...
Wikipedia the stuff, some AH guys broke off directly from the old AW team yes?
(I did enuf typying today, you source it!)
Repeat your line in some 11+ years when were playing AH5?
(AW2 book is from 1997, I've no idea when AW1 came out)
About the 109F:
Yeah, 109F's back when... if ya could loop it 3 times, ya win the fight! I still bet peeps like AH's 109F's more than AW3's!
Stang is right, the modeling in AW has no bearing on the way aircraft are modeled in AH and no, no one that developed AH worked on AW, though they were players at one time.He can't disprove AH recoil modeling. You expect him to prove 109/190 FM flaws?
The fact is, you have failed miserably to show how the bf 109 or the FW 190 is incorrectly modeled in AH and using AW's plane modeling as evidence it moronic at best, especially considering how porked the AW flight model was. AW modeled the P-38J with dive brakes, yeah really accurate modeling *rolls eyes*.
Face it, your a loon operating on half a cylinder. I suspect though you won't be here very long, especially after calling HiTech a drunk and a retard.
ack-ack
You expect him to prove 109/190 FM flaws.
Stang is right, the modeling in AW has no bearing on the way aircraft are modeled in AH and no, no one that developed AH worked on AW, though they were players at one time.AckAck, let me hear you say it then.... come on, you can do it...
The fact is, you have failed miserably to show how the bf 109 or the FW 190 is incorrectly modeled in AH and using AW's plane modeling as evidence it moronic at best, especially considering how porked the AW flight model was. AW modeled the P-38J with dive brakes, yeah really accurate modeling *rolls eyes*.
Face it, your a loon operating on half a cylinder. I suspect though you won't be here very long, especially after calling HiTech a drunk and a retard.
ack-ack
Schlowy: you only wish to grasp at straws to prove you LW planes should be better.
HiTech
Schlowy: I could explain your questions but with out some basic understanding of physics it will be difficult for you to understand, but if you wish to understand please search this board for past explanations of how acceleration and climb rate are really just different units of measurement. Or how instantaneous turn is just a different unit for stall speed.
Or do you think the 190 should out climb most things?
I also see in your writing the "Great Luftwaffe Conspiracy is alive and well"
As far as your post previously , I never heard of you until today in this thread. There are many people on this bbs who can explain all the fact to you, but just as with your not wanting to believe the gun recoil was modeled (and it always has been and is accurate) you are already predisposed to "Knowing you are correct" and hence do not wish to have your question answered, you only wish to grasp at straws to prove your LW planes should be better.
HiTech
AckAck, let me hear you say it then.... come on, you can do it...AKAK played AW years longer than you did. I played AW years longer than you did. So did Shane for that matter. The physics model in AH has like 5 times the points of force that AW did. The physics fiedelity is much better. Computing power to run a flight model is exponentially more powerful than it was 21 years ago when AW was launched. Not until 2001 did AW begin release (for testing) updates to the flight model physics that had already been implemented in WB for years. It's not unreasonable to conclude a third generation game (AH) would be much improved over a first generation game (AW).
Say "Air Warrior III modeling was completely fantasy"
You practically did anyways...
Assuming you did, then the same thing could be said about here! (in 12 years!)
I think that you are confusing 'game modeling' and 'game engine'... or are you saying both were fantasy?
You sound like a kid anyways, 'my game is realistic, your game isn't'...
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AckAck, let me hear you say it then.... come on, you can do it...
Say "Air Warrior III modeling was completely fantasy"
You practically did anyways...
Assuming you did, then the same thing could be said about here! (in 12 years!)
I think that you are confusing 'game modeling' and 'game engine'... or are you saying both were fantasy?
You sound like a kid anyways, 'my game is realistic, your game isn't'...
Hitech, do you think I called you a drunk or a retard? I've said some things in the past, old acct even more, 'AddinkshighII' for example... so sorry, thought I was getting a 2nd chance here! Probation expired! :)
Hitech, I couldn't understand a sentence you typed... go calm down, sober up, and come back in a few hours! :D
So, Hitech, just kidding, I'll assume your not upset, not drunk, and not retarded, etc, etc, etc...
Posters like AckAck are a reason why your message bords are disfunctional and seemingly not a place for serious discussion. Posters just like him are what led to me disrespecting this place and getting banned from the boards last time anyways. He has 9000+ posts like the falitical post above... shame on you Hitech!
He calls me a loon... look at his IconI really don't see how my forum icon has any bearing in this discussion but then I really don't understand the thought process of someone that is obviously 3 bricks short of a full load.
That being said, bias or sources is my question.************************************************
Yup extremely hard to load the TA map and go to the dive bombing range or the high alt bases for high alt testing.. Damn you HT for not holding schlowy's hand.
PLEASE make the offline game more 'user-friendly'...
How bad can 'user friendly' hurt? :frown: Instead we get suspicion leading to anger to hate, that stuff yoda said!
We don't have time to climb to 30k! Slew button!
I wish I could slew, push a key and me alt increases till I push it again. MS flightsim does it.
Get to 30k, test 190 speed vs a books stuff, (yep theres fuel weight issues too vs the books... sigh)
Stuka bombing practice from instant 14k would be nice too, instead of only missing all the time! 1001 hours per climb to 14k per bombing run? This sounds like Boyingtons stuff, hours of boredom.
Weak amo or not, given the chance, I'll blast yer Ally arse's p38 outa the sky! :furious
Added: you just said 'first generation' (AW) it was AW2's book and AW3's game, proven bias!
Murdr, I'll say to this, 'power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely' and you have p38 for an icon! :DI love how you blame this on me. :lol
If it wasn't for Ack's falitcial crap, and name calling, and glock89's excessive smileys... I'd almost think there was a chance... maybe there is, best discussion I've seen yet was the amo one 151 vs mk2, you posted big in there.
Just the same, me's guess is probly no chance! :salute
Weak amo or not, given the chance, I'll blast yer Ally arse's p38 outa the sky! :furious
:D
Added: you just said 'first generation' (AW) it was AW2's book and AW3's game, proven bias!
Shane, shaddup before I post me film of flashing your plane from nose to tailk, with your cockpit side up, in the AvA arena! :rofl
Luff was better! Benz and Bmw, Porsche, still are, since when were they not? Prewar and since!
Hitech
I do have science background, degrees even!
I'll demonstrate, 2x2 = 4? hmm, or is it 2+2 = 4? kidding! :D
Units, conversions, equations, yep yep...
Really I do... I'm not God, but I am 'edukated.' I'm at the stage where I need sources!
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Not all sources agree!
"Intellectual property" is the answer I was given! NO SOURCES! Which are you using? I'm sure you've got flight handbooks and stuff the fliers here would love to see... but you are worried about the competition? I think its wrong outlook! Its your company though, so you do stuff your way!
I can see why 'game' too, 30mins of fun after work vs what Boyington said "hours and hours of boredom sprinkled with a few moments of sheer terror" wouldn't be a very good game.
PLEASE make the offline game more 'user-friendly'...
How bad can 'user friendly' hurt? :frown: Instead we get suspicion leading to anger to hate, that stuff yoda said!
We don't have time to climb to 30k! Slew button!
I wish I could slew, push a key and me alt increases till I push it again. MS flightsim does it.
Get to 30k, test 190 speed vs a books stuff, (yep theres fuel weight issues too vs the books... sigh)
Stuka bombing practice from instant 14k would be nice too, instead of only missing all the time! 1001 hours per climb to 14k per bombing run? This sounds like Boyingtons stuff, hours of boredom.
Weight scale in the hangar would make things alot less 'gamey!' from going to runway, exit to flight hangar, back and forth. I've finally heard of the E6B.
User friendly and AckAck's icon with a cork in it and maybe, just maybe... many more customers!
Thankyou for your time sir!
Added: you just said 'first generation' (AW) it was AW2's book and AW3's game, proven bias!I played AW4W, AW2, AW3D, and AWMV. The graphics engine had been updated and plane models had been added over those years, but the basic flight model had not been updated until the "torch" release of AWMV where the "ultra realism" flight model was introduced. Even at that point it was only run in one test arena, and had some glaring flaws when it came to the drag model. However the ultra realism was intended to be the future of the AW flight model as a work in progress.
PLEASE make the offline game more 'user-friendly'...If you would 'load terrain' AHTA08 offline, there are 30k, 20k, 15k, and 10k airfields. They were placed on that terrain specifically for altitude flight testing and bombing practice ;)
How bad can 'user friendly' hurt? :frown: Instead we get suspicion leading to anger to hate, that stuff yoda said!
We don't have time to climb to 30k! Slew button!
I wish I could slew, push a key and me alt increases till I push it again. MS flightsim does it.
Get to 30k, test 190 speed vs a books stuff, (yep theres fuel weight issues too vs the books... sigh)
Stuka bombing practice from instant 14k would be nice too, instead of only missing all the time! 1001 hours per climb to 14k per bombing run? This sounds like Boyingtons stuff, hours of boredom.
By the way, AKAK was a tech in AW,
... maybe there is, best discussion I've seen yet was the amo one 151 vs mk2, you posted big in there.In that discussion, from Stoney's research of Tony Williams resources, and others on the belt mix of rounds, I got the impression that the explosive power of the 151 seemed in line with real life data if HTC's intent was to average the power of a belt of mixed round types. On the kinetic, it appeared to have the more favorable muzzle velocity figure of 800m/s, and was very close in energy loss at the 600m range data that Tony provided. All in all the AH model seemed to me to treat that gun fairly.
Yep and an AWAR (AW's equivalent of a game master).
Btw, this 'source' was last updated in may of 2005, is it as stone-age as aw3? Complete fantasy right?I'm not sure what you're getting at?
http://www.gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php
So I think it says at bottom of page...
Btw, this 'source' was last updated in may of 2005, is it as stone-age as aw3? Complete fantasy right?You are being either silly or stupid. Stop it.
http://www.gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php
So I think it says at bottom of page, may05.
You are being either silly or stupid. Stop it.
Last ban was for throwing 12 year old style personal attacks at Skuzzy.
I also see in your writing the "Great Luftwaffe Conspiracy is alive and well"
I do have science background, degrees even!
FO, BAN ME THE F NOW! F THIS PLACE.For the love of cod give him what he wants. Hell, i'll take kurfurst back at least he just twists facts to back up what he claims. This numpty is a raving lunatic.
:D
AckAck says aw3 was complete fantasy, well, he wouldn't actually say it...
The above was pre-internet, so sukarse fewls! First implies best, yay! :aokThis point of discussion was only taking place between you AKAK and myself. So I can only read it as telling AKAK and I to "sukarse fewls".
12) I wasn't banned for attacking Skuzzy, I was banned for saying that a 'poster' was Skuzzy's woman because Skuzzy kept saving the indivisual, and saving Murdr too, and Karnak, almost all the same guys we have here today!So if I'm reading this correctly, in response to offering information you've reqested, and simply pointing out flaws in some of your statements, I am being told to F OFF.
Skuzzy kept erasing my posts when I'd explained stuff to these fewls, checkmated yee arses! I did no less than what others were doing to me! Only difference was you guys were tag teaming me! Bad bad! :aok
LIES! Murdr = 00#
Murdr! FO
*Editting now, I REMEMBER NOW, YOU GUYS WERE TYPING QUOTES, REPEATEDLY, THAT I DIDN"T ACTUALLY SAY, FALSE QUOTES, SO I MADE A FALSE QUOTE OF SKUZZY SAYING SOME STUFF THAT HE DIDN"T SAY!!! :furious
FO MURDR, thought you were making some sence for a min there... FO, BAN ME THE F NOW! F THIS PLACE. And still ROC don't mean crap here, you guys each tag team violating the rules, FOS BOA :aokRDS!!!
RENOLDS, GLASSES, SCHLOWY, and me to the hall of fame!