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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: mg1942 on October 04, 2008, 01:55:29 AM
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Any tips to master a gun that has a trajectory of a bowling ball?
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Best to shoot inside 300 yards or closer.
Use the .50 cal's to "range" a target, use page up to get more view for pulling lead shots.
Keep all guns converged at around 300, try setting the cannon at longer ranges.
The Thing i have noticed is no matter what the guns are set to, if you keep a bead on your target for more than 1.5-2 seconds while fireing all guns i would say you have a 60-80% chance of getting 37mm cannon hits on your target.
Most times i get multiple cannon hits on someones ac before they vanish.
Like most things practice makes perfect, and some more food for thought is the fact the germans 30mm ballistic is even worse than the american m4 37mm.
I think the best comparison for a more rapid fireing 610m/s weapon "cannon wise" would be the first zeke.
its guns match closely, so try that plane out for a more "rapid fire" aspect.
When you get good hitting with the relativly yet high rate of fire for the zeke, you may find the 39's 37mm more adaptable.
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Its not a spray an pray gun package. Get in close and then do the nasty. P-39Q is a fun little ride, if you spend some time getting to know its quirks.
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Thx for tips but there's no way I can hit a target with M4 while pulling Gs.
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Any tips to master a gun that has a trajectory of a bowling ball?
Don't fly the P39 but with the Yak I don't shoot over 200 unless the timing and position is right. Ideally close well within 200 yards, often you have to fly in a mannor to sucker the target into close range, go for snap shots with a well timed single shot. If the speeds maintain high then fly directly at the plane as if your trying to colide, then try for a single shot again under 200 in range.
The spray them with a MG and then fire a 37mm doesn't work very effectively. By the time u see the hit sprite and fire a 37mm the target has moved. Only occasion it works well as when on dead six, use the MG to make the target break then hit them the 37mm.
Once you get over the mindset from using 50s and 20mm of just spraying down targets at 600 yards. The 37mm is a extremely rewarding gun to use, especially as your timing improves and you can increase angles and ranges pulling off more and more extreme shots.
Great Fun! :devil
<S>...-Gixer
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Come in to the TA and learn to shoot it.
Fire single aimed shots, like a deer rifle. NOT like a water hose.
Setup, unload stick, wait for the perfect shot, fire, repeat.
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You have to aim somewhat higher than most cannon packages.
The P-39 tater is a great tater for buff hunting.
It's not exactly your T&B model if you are used to keeping the hammer down for 4 seconds.
ROX
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Any tips to master a gun that has a trajectory of a bowling ball?
You know you can set a "bulls eye" target both offline and online, right? Distance from your aircraft can also be adjusted. Say you want a bulls eye 350 away...the dot command is .target 350
The target will always maintain a position of 360 o
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You know you can set a "bulls eye" target both offline and online, right? Distance from your aircraft can also be adjusted. Say you want a bulls eye 350 away...the dot command is .target 350
The target will always maintain a position of 360 o
I thought this only was visible if you faced due north?
Helm ...out
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I dont even use the 37mm. I normally shoot them out and use the 4 50cals.
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I dont even use the 37mm. I normally shoot them out and use the 4 50cals.
This is incredibly dumb. Why not just take the 20mm gun package?
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I thought this only was visible if you faced due north?
Helm ...out
Read the last sentence again. :P
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The P-39Q doesn't have the 20mm gun package.
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mg1942,
You're having the same problem the Americans did historically. With the advantage that YOUR cannon doesn't jam after 2-3 rounds.
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Any tips to master a gun that has a trajectory of a bowling ball?
it's not nearly as good against gv's as i thought it would be either
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This is incredibly dumb. Why not just take the 20mm gun package?
The P-39Q doesn't have the 20mm gun package.
Ya.
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I actually like the 37mm!
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Some examples of what I was refering to earlier as far as timing with 1 shot can be downloaded from this thread.
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,244829.0.html
<S>...-Gixer
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I remember a comment by a 350th FG P39 driver that I had a chance to talk to. He said you could almost see the cannon shell drop as it came out of the cannon. Sounds like it's modeled correctly :)
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At least I can hit with german 30mms because of rate of fire. For now M4 37mm to me is almost impossible.
Also, the plane seem pretty stable, but I'm worried about getting into spinl because of the engine placement.
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Hey gixer.....maybe Im seeing this wrong . I was looking at your 5bag film. Your second kill is what I have a question about. I'm hoping my computer kept is screwed up or I have a bad download. I viewed the cockpit and slowed the film down to watch the hit on the spit. The cockpit started flashing as if you were firing, so I went external to watch the line up a little better. After the engagement I went back into the cockpit and your round count was the same as before you began the engagement. I couldnt tell what you had fired...the cannon or MG. Just trying to get clarification on which you fired during that engagement.
EDIT: Hprilla and Gunner82 are more clear but your round count stayed the same throughout the flight. I think my download of the film might be bad.
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Any tips to master a gun that has a trajectory of a bowling ball?
Well, get close, and lead it a lil bit less than a 109's tater. Dont ever go for deflection shots unless you're low and slow. No matter what anyone says about the 39, it's a TnB plane. It just cant do any BnZ with that tater. Since they think you're the easiest to kill, try to drag someone out away from the group or take a wingman. Suprisingly, when I fly the 39, I tend to lead too much actually. I've reviewed films where it shows the bullets in front of the enemy, not behind them. :salute
If you take the 4 .50s, use em all, dont just use the tater. If you're buff hunting, you need to be a good shot, (one hit on the engine sets it on fire, but you gotta try to not get shot by the gunner :( )
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After the engagement I went back into the cockpit and your round count was the same as before you began the engagement. I couldnt tell what you had fired...the cannon or MG.
EDIT: Hprilla and Gunner82 are more clear but your round count stayed the same throughout the flight. I think my download of the film might be bad.
Round counts get screwed up in the films, I only ever use the canon. MG is only for making targets break and chutes :D
<S>...-Gixer
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It's a pain for sure, but it's a super fun aircraft to fly. The best I've done with it was in a vertical fight with Fugitive. He was spiraling up 800 yards above and I let a single 37mm fly ahead of him... miraculously it found it's target. It was total dumb luck, we both went LOL as it happened. It's cool stuff like that that makes it fun. Sure, you'll miss most shots with it but then there's that one crazy one that rewards ya and gets you to fly the 39 again.
I almost have more fun in the P39D. Bronk and I were winging them at TT last night and had a ball in them. It's such a unique aircraft and most people underestimate it so you can get a lot out of it.
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It's a pain for sure, but it's a super fun aircraft to fly. The best I've done with it was in a vertical fight with Fugitive. He was spiraling up 800 yards above and I let a single 37mm fly ahead of him... miraculously it found it's target. It was total dumb luck, we both went LOL as it happened. It's cool stuff like that that makes it fun. Sure, you'll miss most shots with it but then there's that one crazy one that rewards ya and gets you to fly the 39 again.
I almost have more fun in the P39D. Bronk and I were winging them at TT last night and had a ball in them. It's such a unique aircraft and most people underestimate it so you can get a lot out of it.
I have film of those 1st two runs. Yup lots a fun to fly it. If you don't mind and if any are interested I'll post.....editing out the text of course.
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Hehe maybe leave a couple of the whines in it though.
:D
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Hehe maybe leave a couple of the whines in it though.
:D
I still need to post that film of our 38 raid where the guy couldn't figure out how to type... and I made a couple suggestions :D
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It's a pain for sure, but it's a super fun aircraft to fly. The best I've done with it was in a vertical fight with Fugitive. He was spiraling up 800 yards above and I let a single 37mm fly ahead of him... miraculously it found it's target. It was total dumb luck, we both went LOL as it happened. It's cool stuff like that that makes it fun. Sure, you'll miss most shots with it but then there's that one crazy one that rewards ya and gets you to fly the 39 again.
I almost have more fun in the P39D. Bronk and I were winging them at TT last night and had a ball in them. It's such a unique aircraft and most people underestimate it so you can get a lot out of it.
Don't you love that feeling you get when someone underestimates you?
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I heard Soviets were the ones that only mastered the P39. Some of the highest scoring allied aces flew 39s.
I wonder what kind of tactics they used...
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The lawn dart.
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Read the last sentence again. :P
:lol
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Hey gixer.....maybe Im seeing this wrong . I was looking at your 5bag film. Your second kill is what I have a question about. I'm hoping my computer kept is screwed up or I have a bad download. I viewed the cockpit and slowed the film down to watch the hit on the spit. The cockpit started flashing as if you were firing, so I went external to watch the line up a little better. After the engagement I went back into the cockpit and your round count was the same as before you began the engagement. I couldnt tell what you had fired...the cannon or MG. Just trying to get clarification on which you fired during that engagement.
EDIT: Hprilla and Gunner82 are more clear but your round count stayed the same throughout the flight. I think my download of the film might be bad.
Round counts get screwed up in the films, I only ever use the canon. MG is only for making targets break and chutes :D
<S>...-Gixer
just curious
I recorded a flight just now and played it back.
My gun count went down and updated on the screen just fine
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Dunno, I've never really botherd to think about it and have just put it down to another film viewer specific bug/feature which maybe only effects some planes and not others? Don't know. But if you like just count the number of times the big gun flashes for a more accurate reading. :D
<S>...-Gixer
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Use the offline target command and make a gunsight for it.
In AH1 I made a gunsight for the flakyak with ranged increments out to 2.5k. I used to be able to hit bombers from beyond the range of their guns. If I found lone buffs where I could approach unmolested I would line up on their 6 and match their speed at about 1.5 - 2.0 behind them. Trim for stability and try to shoot 1 round at a time. It was a tedious affair and I would usually use half of my ammo just to down 1 buff. I don't know if it can be done in AHII.
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Any tips to master a gun that has a trajectory of a bowling ball?
Use lots of spin
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Don't fly the P39 but with the Yak I don't shoot over 200 unless the timing and position is right.
<S>...-Gixer
There is also a big difference between the 37mm on the P-39 and the one on the Yak. The one on the Yak is actually a decent cannon, same cannot be said of the Oldsmobile cannon on the P-39.
ack-ack
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There is also a big difference between the 37mm on the P-39 and the one on the Yak. The one on the Yak is actually a decent cannon, same cannot be said of the Oldsmobile cannon on the P-39.
ack-ack
Yes but both at close range can blow your girly P38 out of the sky with one hit. It's just the Yak 37mm would destroy the Niki in front of you as well. :devil
By the way, I've created some new nose art for your P38.
(http://www.girlygirlusa.com/images/coupon.jpg)
:D
<S>...-Gixer
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Isn't that pic a little slim for a bomber? :devil
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Isn't that pic a little slim for a bomber? :devil
True, I should of made the chick fatter with her legs further apart. More his taste.
<S>...-Gixer
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Im a bit surprised by the talk of the P-39s 37mm. Go offline and do a .target 600 you will see it puts them dead center. The ROF is slower than the Yak-9s 37mm, but the ballistics are easily decent enough for a kill vs a fighter. Also, the slower ROF enables a few more bursts than the Yak before it goes winchester.