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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: oakranger on October 12, 2008, 05:17:38 PM
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Too many Big 12 teams in the top 10.
1.Texas (39) 2.Alabama (26) 3.Penn St. 4.Oklahoma 5.Florida 6.USC 7.Texas Tech 8.Oklahoma St. 9.BYU 10.Georgia 11.Missouri 12.Ohio St. 13.LSU 14.Utah 15.Boise St. 16.Kansas 17.Virginia Tech 18.North Carolina 19.South Florida 20.Michigan St. 21.Wake Forest 22.Vanderbilt 23.Pittsburgh 24.Ball St. 25.California
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I'm glad to see UNC move up, and ND stay out.
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I'm still trying to understand how USC loses to an unranked team with a loosing record and stays in the top ten.
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I'm still trying to understand how USC loses to an unranked team with a loosing record and stays in the top ten.
Me too. If any of the others lose, they drop faster than a ton of bricks. I'm just happy to see that the USF Bulls are staying in the top 20. It's really cool to see some of the smaller schools that far up. And, with such a young team.
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I'm still trying to understand how USC loses to an unranked team with a loosing record and stays in the top ten.
or how texas moves to #1. Texas sucks.
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Alabama or PSU should be 1#. And how did OSU moved from 17# to 8# when other team like BYU, Ohio State and Georgia won too?
Personally, all the big 12 teams will choke. i hate that conference.
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I'm still trying to understand how USC loses to an unranked team with a loosing record and stays in the top ten.
Hehe! USC lost to my beavs baby!!! <S>
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Alabama or PSU should be 1#. And how did OSU moved from 17# to 8# when other team like BYU, Ohio State and Georgia won too?
Personally, all the big 12 teams will choke. i hate that conference.
this statement is spot on.
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wait til usc loses at the end of the year like they always do. Maybe someone from texas can single handedly beat them...... Again.
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Alabama or PSU should be 1#. And how did OSU moved from 17# to 8# when other team like BYU, Ohio State and Georgia won too?
Personally, all the big 12 teams will choke. i hate that conference.
I'm an SEC fan, so this is totally biased. :)
I live in BIG 12 country. You'll see yard flags and car flags until their team loses, and then suddenly they are gone. In fact, it shouldn't be Boomer Sooner it should be Bandwagon Sooner. Bandwagons are the art of fans here, especially in Dallas. I expect to see more Diarrhea Orange in the next few weeks than normal. But it will fade away when the human Imodium, Mack Brown, chokes once again.
As for Penn State, even if they win out they may get screwed. The Big Ten has been the favorite in the last two BCS championship games, and well...the result has been embarrassing.
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I'm an SEC fan, so this is totally biased. :)
I live in BIG 12 country. You'll see yard flags and car flags until their team loses, and then suddenly they are gone. In fact, it shouldn't be Boomer Sooner it should be Bandwagon Sooner. Bandwagons are the art of fans here, especially in Dallas. I expect to see more Diarrhea Orange in the next few weeks than normal. But it will fade away when the human Imodium, Mack Brown, chokes once again.
As for Penn State, even if they win out they may get screwed. The Big Ten has been the favorite in the last two BCS championship games, and well...the result has been embarrassing.
Now hold on, I am a Ohio State fan. The 2007 season was a wacky season and Yea, OSU should have never been in the last championship. If memory service me right, OSU was sitting #1 on week 11 and lost putting them #7. On week 12, Oregon and Oklahoma lost moving OSU #5. On week 13 they moved up to #3 after KU lost. Week 14, both Missouri and West Virgina lost moving them back to #1. Personally the match should have been LSU and Georgia but once aging BCS poll fails. Now as for the championship against Florida, i have no ideal. I guess they really didn't care about the game.
At the same time, i am glad SEC is raising to the top. Getting really tired of Big 12 rubbing it in to the rest of the country.
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You'll see yard flags and car flags until their team loses, and then suddenly they are gone. In fact, it shouldn't be Boomer Sooner it should be Bandwagon Sooner.
Sign's still in the yard. Stickers still on the truck and van. Living room is still Crimson and Creme. Weather is starting to cool off, OU sweatshirts abound. I'm not even a native.
Boomer Sooner!
EDIT: LSU deserves #1. They are killing it this year.
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EDIT: LSU deserves #1. They are killing it this year.
LOL
(http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/v/ncaaf/teams/20080123/80x60/ffa.gif)
Tebow, Gators rout defending champ LSU 51-21
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recap?gid=200810110067&prov=ap (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recap?gid=200810110067&prov=ap)
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LOL
(http://l.yimg.com/a/i/us/sp/v/ncaaf/teams/20080123/80x60/ffa.gif)
Tebow, Gators rout defending champ LSU 51-21
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recap?gid=200810110067&prov=ap (http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/recap?gid=200810110067&prov=ap)
Do they have a chance against Georgia? That will be a battle.
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or how texas moves to #1. Texas sucks.
Cause they beat the #1 team? Cause the #3 and #4 teams LOST!!!!...Cause Alabama didn't play? Your just a soreazz as always....Big 12 has arguably the best QB's in the nation as a conferance...ESPN touting that btw.
Texas has Mizzu this week...and 4 currently ranked opponants left this year.
Get over it....your Grade School doesnt play out of the local PeeWee league.
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Cause they beat the #1 team? Cause the #3 and #4 teams LOST!!!!...Cause Alabama didn't play? Your just a soreazz as always....Big 12 has arguably the best QB's in the nation as a conferance...ESPN touting that btw.
Texas has Mizzu this week...and 4 currently ranked opponants left this year.
Get over it....your Grade School doesnt play out of the local PeeWee league.
Espn, lmao. http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/?p=1406
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Cause they beat the #1 team? Cause the #3 and #4 teams LOST!!!!...Cause Alabama didn't play? Your just a soreazz as always....Big 12 has arguably the best QB's in the nation as a conferance...ESPN touting that btw.
Texas has Mizzu this week...and 4 currently ranked opponants left this year.
Get over it....your Grade School doesnt play out of the local PeeWee league.
UMMM, #3 PSU did not lost, they crush wisconson.
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Um........until they lost, Missouri was #3, LSU was #4........since they lost, PSU is now in the #3 spot........that was what he meant.
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wait til usc loses at the end of the year like they always do. Maybe someone from texas can single handedly beat them...... Again.
USC has only lost 1 post-season game under Pete Carroll. Should check your facts sonny boy.
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Um........until they lost, Missouri was #3, LSU was #4........since they lost, PSU is now in the #3 spot........that was what he meant.
Correctamundo.
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Um........until they lost, Missouri was #3, LSU was #4........since they lost, PSU is now in the #3 spot........that was what he meant.
Sorry, i am having one of them dead brian days. I met is how did texas got ahead of Alabama? I know they had a week off.
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Sorry, i am having one of them dead brian days. I met is how did texas got ahead of Alabama? I know they had a week off.
Prolly cause Alabama WAS off...and add to that , that #1 gets beat by #5 in a great game. I have no idea really how the pollsters figure out things , but I figured Texas would move to #1. My dad said no way that alabama would...
IS Texas the best team in the country? Maybe not....but then again they haven't lost....they beat #1 and after watching Mizzou this past weekend against OSU....Texas very well could go undefeated. OSU and Mizzou , who had 2 of the highest powered offenses in the nation , didn't look all that good. Maybe the defenses played better than I saw...really no idea.
The team that looked so good was Florida. They looked like the #1 team they were at the first of the year.
One thing about the polls. Coaches can lobby....Publicly and behind the scenes.
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Sign's still in the yard. Stickers still on the truck and van. Living room is still Crimson and Creme. Weather is starting to cool off, OU sweatshirts abound. I'm not even a native.
Boomer Sooner!
EDIT: LSU deserves #1. They are killing it this year.
I guess you missed the Florida game.
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Cause they beat the #1 team? Cause the #3 and #4 teams LOST!!!!...Cause Alabama didn't play? Your just a soreazz as always....Big 12 has arguably the best QB's in the nation as a conferance...ESPN touting that btw.
Texas has Mizzu this week...and 4 currently ranked opponants left this year.
Get over it....your Grade School doesnt play out of the local PeeWee league.
Texas sucks, and so does their entire conference. I could say more, but that sums it up nicely.
As a rule of thumbs, Big 12 and Pac always are overranked, because their conferences are easier to go through without a loss. It doesn't mean they deserve it, and that usually comes out when an SEC team totally kicks them in the final game. :aok
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Prolly cause Alabama WAS off...and add to that , that #1 gets beat by #5 in a great game. I have no idea really how the pollsters figure out things , but I figured Texas would move to #1. My dad said no way that alabama would...
IS Texas the best team in the country? Maybe not....but then again they haven't lost....they beat #1 and after watching Mizzou this past weekend against OSU....Texas very well could go undefeated. OSU and Mizzou , who had 2 of the highest powered offenses in the nation , didn't look all that good. Maybe the defenses played better than I saw...really no idea.
The team that looked so good was Florida. They looked like the #1 team they were at the first of the year.
One thing about the polls. Coaches can lobby....Publicly and behind the scenes.
Alabama will have to play Ole Miss(who slaughtered Florida), Tenn(who is a great rivalry), LSU, and most likely Florida to win the SEC, as the only undefeated team in the strongest conference in the nation, I thought they should have gone to #1. It doesn't really matter though, it's going to be a fun season and hopefully a memorable one.
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Texas sucks, and so does their entire conference. I could say more, but that sums it up nicely.
As a rule of thumbs, Big 12 and Pac always are overranked, because their conferences are easier to go through without a loss. It doesn't mean they deserve it, and that usually comes out when an SEC team totally kicks them in the final game. :aok
:rofl The SEC is a good conference....But they aint the only conference. Lets see...SEC....Florida #1 loses....LSU #1 loses...
Things change in Football...Big 12 isn't weak...and has some pretty strong teams....but you go ahead and drink that sports media koolaid that the SEC is the greatest thing to hit the NCAA since Notre Dame.
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USC has only lost 1 post-season game under Pete Carroll. Should check your facts sonny boy.
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but they somehow always manage to lose one game at the end of year to keep them out a championship game or winning it. UCLA? Standford? How did you guys lose UCLA? How can ANY team let one person tear them a new one in a national championship game? Now lets talk about present USC. How did you lose OSU? Oh that right you lost because you couldn't stop one person with you "awesome" defence. Then i wasn't impressed this weekend with the game. Basically USC shouldn't be anywhere near the top 5. You lose to an unranked OSU team that is bad and not mention you got pwned by them and still in the top 10? USC is way over rated. They will get owned by Penn St. at the rose bowl.
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This years Red River Shootout Of Texas vz. Choklahoma reminds me of another game two years ago....Michigan v. Ohio St. After a high scoring affair where Defense was totally absent, all of the coll football experts could see no other matchup for a Natl. Championship game.
Well, the BCS somehow didn't blow it, and Florida was given a chance to play in the game most experts thought they didn't belong in.
OSU was beaten by Florida in the 2007 BCS National Championship Game, 41-14. Mr. Heisman, Troy Smith completed just four of 14 passes for 35 yards along with an interception, a fumble, and was sacked 5 times against an elite SEC Defense.
The experts don't know S.
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This years Red River Shootout Of Texas vz. Choklahoma reminds me of another game two years ago....Michigan v. Ohio St. After a high scoring affair where Defense was totally absent, all of the coll football experts could see no other matchup for a Natl. Championship game.
Well, the BCS somehow didn't blow it, and Florida was given a chance to play in the game most experts thought they didn't belong in.
OSU was beaten by Florida in the 2007 BCS National Championship Game, 41-14. Mr. Heisman, Troy Smith completed just four of 14 passes for 35 yards along with an interception, a fumble, and was sacked 5 times against an elite SEC Defense.
The experts don't know S.
Alabama has a good defense this year, they have everything there to win it all, but it is college football and you never know.
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:rofl The SEC is a good conference....But they aint the only conference. Lets see...SEC....Florida #1 loses....LSU #1 loses...
Things change in Football...Big 12 isn't weak...and has some pretty strong teams....but you go ahead and drink that sports media koolaid that the SEC is the greatest thing to hit the NCAA since Notre Dame.
Sec 3 out of the last 5 national championships, case closed.
1998-present
Conference Championships Schools BCS Championship Game Record
SEC 4 LSU (2007 & 2003), Florida (2006), Tennessee (1998)
Big 12 2 Texas (2005), Oklahoma (2000)
Pac 10 1 USC (2004)
Big 10 1 Ohio State (2002)
Big East 1 Miami (2001)
ACC 1 Florida State (1999)
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LSU shared it one year with Oklahoma. USC and LSU had hands on it as well one year. Below you will see that the SEC has been to the BCS bowls less that others....and tho thier winning percentage may be better...a couple of those national champs. were shared. Now....as I said...the SEC is a good conference.....but they aint the only one.
BCS Bowl wins and appearances by conference
Conference W L Pct School(s)
ACC
4 different schools 1 9 .100 Florida State (1-5)
Maryland (0-1)
Virginia Tech* (0-2)
Wake Forest (0-1)
Big 12
7 different schools 6 8 .429 Texas A&M (0-1)
Nebraska (1-1)
Oklahoma (2-4)
Colorado (0-1)
Kansas State (0-1)
Texas (2-0)
Kansas (1-0)
Big East
6 different schools 6 4 .600 Syracuse (0-1)
Virginia Tech* (0-1)
Miami Fla. (3-1)
Pittsburgh (0-1)
West Virginia( 2-0)
Louisville (1-0)
Big Ten
7 different schools 8 9 .471 Wisconsin (2-0)
Ohio State (4-2)
Michigan (1-3)
Purdue (0-1)
Illinois (0-2)
Iowa (0-1)
Penn State (1-0)
MWC
1 school 1 0 1.00 Utah (1-0)
Pac-10
7 different schools 8 4 .667 UCLA (0-1)
Stanford (0-1)
Washington (1-0)
Oregon State (1-0)
Oregon (1-0)
Washington State (0-1)
USC (5-1)
SEC
6 different schools 11 4 .733 Tennessee (1-1)
Florida (3-1)
Alabama (0-1)
LSU (4-0)
Georgia (2-1)
Auburn (1-0)
WAC
2 different schools 1 1 .500 Boise State (1-0)
Hawaiʻi (0-1)
Independent
1 school 0 3 .000 Notre Dame (0-3)
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all i have to say is...GO BAMA!!! :D
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LSU shared it one year with Oklahoma. USC and LSU had hands on it as well one year. Below you will see that the SEC has been to the BCS bowls less that others....and tho thier winning percentage may be better...a couple of those national champs. were shared. Now....as I said...the SEC is a good conference.....but they aint the only one.
BCS Bowl wins and appearances by conference
Conference W L Pct School(s)
ACC
4 different schools 1 9 .100 Florida State (1-5)
Maryland (0-1)
Virginia Tech* (0-2)
Wake Forest (0-1)
Big 12
7 different schools 6 8 .429 Texas A&M (0-1)
Nebraska (1-1)
Oklahoma (2-4)
Colorado (0-1)
Kansas State (0-1)
Texas (2-0)
Kansas (1-0)
Big East
6 different schools 6 4 .600 Syracuse (0-1)
Virginia Tech* (0-1)
Miami Fla. (3-1)
Pittsburgh (0-1)
West Virginia( 2-0)
Louisville (1-0)
Big Ten
7 different schools 8 9 .471 Wisconsin (2-0)
Ohio State (4-2)
Michigan (1-3)
Purdue (0-1)
Illinois (0-2)
Iowa (0-1)
Penn State (1-0)
MWC
1 school 1 0 1.00 Utah (1-0)
Pac-10
7 different schools 8 4 .667 UCLA (0-1)
Stanford (0-1)
Washington (1-0)
Oregon State (1-0)
Oregon (1-0)
Washington State (0-1)
USC (5-1)
SEC
6 different schools 11 4 .733 Tennessee (1-1)
Florida (3-1)
Alabama (0-1)
LSU (4-0)
Georgia (2-1)
Auburn (1-0)
WAC
2 different schools 1 1 .500 Boise State (1-0)
Hawaiʻi (0-1)
Independent
1 school 0 3 .000 Notre Dame (0-3)
WRONG. LSU never split with Choklahoma. Only one year was the Championship shared, and it fuels the case that the media is full of S.
LSU won the BCS title in 2003 by beating a 1 loss Choklahoma team lead by a Heisman, Jason White. However the media experts awarded their snob AP Championship to USC, and Coach "Please" Carrol for beating a two loss Michigan. He claimed on the field after that game they should be the champ. Whatever. It can be debated that all three 1 loss teams deserved a shot(Ok. USC. and LSU) But, they lost to Cal, and so...
The very next year Auburn went undefeated in the SEC but was left out of the title game so that Choklahoma could lift their skirts and let USC hang 55 on them. Meanwhile, Auburn won a great game against a solid 2 loss Virginia Tech. Was there a peep from the AP on splitting the championship....Hell no. Did Tommy Tubberville cry that Auburn should have been given a split championship? NO.
Maybe things will change, but currently the SEC owns...on the field. Untill they lose a championship on the field, they are #1 in my book.
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WRONG. LSU never split with Choklahoma. Only one year was the Championship shared, and it fuels the case that the media is full of S.
LSU won the BCS title in 2003 by beating a 1 loss Choklahoma team lead by a Heisman, Jason White. However the media experts awarded their snob AP Championship to USC, and Coach "Please" Carrol for beating a two loss Michigan. He claimed on the field after that game they should be the champ. Whatever. It can be debated that all three 1 loss teams deserved a shot(Ok. USC. and LSU) But, they lost to Cal, and so...
The very next year Auburn went undefeated in the SEC but was left out of the title game so that Choklahoma could lift their skirts and let USC hang 55 on them. Meanwhile, Auburn won a great game against a solid 2 loss Virginia Tech. Was there a peep from the AP on splitting the championship....Hell no. Did Tommy Tubberville cry that Auburn should have been given a split championship? NO.
Maybe things will change, but currently the SEC owns...on the field. Untill they lose a championship on the field, they are #1 in my book.
Extremely well put! :aok
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or how texas moves to #1. Texas sucks.
Well that is one thing we can agree on...
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it comes to show that BCS poll is worthless. Time to do a play off system.
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Sec 3 out of the last 5 national championships, case closed.
1998-present
Conference Championships Schools BCS Championship Game Record
SEC 4 LSU (2007 & 2003), Florida (2006), Tennessee (1998)
Big 12 2 Texas (2005), Oklahoma (2000)
Pac 10 1 USC (2004)
Big 10 1 Ohio State (2002)
Big East 1 Miami (2001)
ACC 1 Florida State (1999)
Didn't Michigan won or tide a national champ. Or was that before 1998.
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A ranked UNC.... :cry bless them
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it comes to show that BCS poll is worthless. Time to do a play off system.
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but they somehow always manage to lose one game at the end of year to keep them out a championship game or winning it. UCLA? Standford? How did you guys lose UCLA? How can ANY team let one person tear them a new one in a national championship game? Now lets talk about present USC. How did you lose OSU? Oh that right you lost because you couldn't stop one person with you "awesome" defence. Then i wasn't impressed this weekend with the game. Basically USC shouldn't be anywhere near the top 5. You lose to an unranked OSU team that is bad and not mention you got pwned by them and still in the top 10? USC is way over rated. They will get owned by Penn St. at the rose bowl.
Six straight AP Top 4 Finishes
2003 and 2004 (Co-Champions) National Championships
Six straight BCS Bowl Appearances (unprecedented)
Six straight Pac-10 Championships (unprecedented)
Six straight seasons with 11-plus victories (unprecedented)
National-record 33 consecutive weeks as AP’s No. 1 ranked team
Winning Record of 84.4 percent (76-14)
Best winning percentage of any Division I coach with at least 5 years experience
49-9 (84 percent) in Pac-10 games
12-2 against rivals UCLA and Notre Dame
USC has won 67 of their last 73 games (the six losses have come by a combined 20 points)
A no-longer active school record 63 consecutive games ranked in the AP Top 10
No-longer-active winning streaks:
- Pac-10 record 35 consecutive home games
- Pac-10 record 34 consecutive overall games
- Pac-10 record 27 consecutive conference games
Since-broken other winning streaks:
- Pac-10-record 34 overall games
- Pac-10-record 27 Pac-10 games
- School-record 18 road games (not including 4 neutral site contests)
- 18 October games
- 16 non-conference games
- 16 games against AP Top 25 teams
- School-record 13 Pac-10 road games
Since-broken NCAA records:
- Scoring at least 20 points in 63 consecutive games
- USC was AP’s No. 1 team for a national-record 33 straight polls (including 2 pre-season polls)
USC is the first school to have 3 Heisman Trophy winners in a 4-year span
Produced 30 All-American first teamers
42 NFL draft picks (including 11 first rounders, with a No. 1 selection in Carson Palmer and a No. 2 in Reggie Bush)
It's funny but since you've been posting, you keep on saying Penn St. will beat USC in the Rose Bowl but when is the last time you ever saw Penn St. in any significant bowl in the last 5 years? And before you answer, the Alamo Bowl isn't a significant national bowl game, more of a CIF quality game.
I admit it, USC's worst foe is themselves, it's been a bane of the Trojans for years. OSU didn't beat USC, USC beat themselves but the fact doesn't change, when USC comes out to play, they are undefeatable. Just ask Ohio St.
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Six straight AP Top 4 Finishes
2003 and 2004 (Co-Champions) National Championships
Six straight BCS Bowl Appearances (unprecedented)
Six straight Pac-10 Championships (unprecedented)
Six straight seasons with 11-plus victories (unprecedented)
National-record 33 consecutive weeks as AP’s No. 1 ranked team
Winning Record of 84.4 percent (76-14)
Best winning percentage of any Division I coach with at least 5 years experience
49-9 (84 percent) in Pac-10 games
12-2 against rivals UCLA and Notre Dame
USC has won 67 of their last 73 games (the six losses have come by a combined 20 points)
A no-longer active school record 63 consecutive games ranked in the AP Top 10
No-longer-active winning streaks:
- Pac-10 record 35 consecutive home games
- Pac-10 record 34 consecutive overall games
- Pac-10 record 27 consecutive conference games
Since-broken other winning streaks:
- Pac-10-record 34 overall games
- Pac-10-record 27 Pac-10 games
- School-record 18 road games (not including 4 neutral site contests)
- 18 October games
- 16 non-conference games
- 16 games against AP Top 25 teams
- School-record 13 Pac-10 road games
Since-broken NCAA records:
- Scoring at least 20 points in 63 consecutive games
- USC was AP’s No. 1 team for a national-record 33 straight polls (including 2 pre-season polls)
USC is the first school to have 3 Heisman Trophy winners in a 4-year span
Produced 30 All-American first teamers
42 NFL draft picks (including 11 first rounders, with a No. 1 selection in Carson Palmer and a No. 2 in Reggie Bush)
It's funny but since you've been posting, you keep on saying Penn St. will beat USC in the Rose Bowl but when is the last time you ever saw Penn St. in any significant bowl in the last 5 years? And before you answer, the Alamo Bowl isn't a significant national bowl game, more of a CIF quality game.
I admit it, USC's worst foe is themselves, it's been a bane of the Trojans for years. OSU didn't beat USC, USC beat themselves but the fact doesn't change, when USC comes out to play, they are undefeatable. Just ask Ohio St.
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Ack-ack, Impressive record, but those of us without Rosebowl colored glasses are arguing that the PAC-10 is, and has been weak. It is unreasonable that a team that loses to an unranked team stays in the top 10(At this Point in the season). Especially when they are ahead of teams with no loses, or even teams with 1 loss to a ranked team.
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Ack-ack, Impressive record, but those of us without Rosebowl colored glasses are arguing that the PAC-10 is, and has been weak. It is unreasonable that a team that loses to an unranked team stays in the top 10(At this Point in the season). Especially when they are ahead of teams with no loses, or even teams with 1 loss to a ranked team.
QFT. So wait let get this right? USC beat themselves?!?!?!?! You sound like my parents and their USC homerness. No OSU man handled you in every single aspect of the game. They shutdown your offense outside of a two minute window. They dominated in the trenches in both sides of the ball. As for Penn St. How does the past have anything to do w/ anything when you have new players every 4 years atleast. This years rose bowl will be terrible. Both the Pac 10 and Big 10 are in down years and have been for a few years. The Pac 10 has been in a downward slump for a about 3 years now. UCLA is terrible inconsistant. Washington and Washington St. Are bad and have been for 3 years. Oregon is in a retooling year are dixon left. Oregon State is a .500 team at best. Cal is kinda meh. Standford has some upside with Gerhart, and that offense, but nonthing to spectacular. Arizona suck, what a surprise. ASU probably the only other bowl team in the Pac 10. Jsut to show what down year the pac 10 is in look at the conference record vs. mountian west. terrible. 2003 shared championship, lol, no.
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QFT. So wait let get this right? USC beat themselves?!?!?!?! You sound like my parents and their USC homerness. No OSU man handled you in every single aspect of the game. They shutdown your offense outside of a two minute window. They dominated in the trenches in both sides of the ball. As for Penn St. How does the past have anything to do w/ anything when you have new players every 4 years atleast. This years rose bowl will be terrible. Both the Pac 10 and Big 10 are in down years and have been for a few years. The Pac 10 has been in a downward slump for a about 3 years now. UCLA is terrible inconsistant. Washington and Washington St. Are bad and have been for 3 years. Oregon is in a retooling year are dixon left. Oregon State is a .500 team at best. Cal is kinda meh. Standford has some upside with Gerhart, and that offense, but nonthing to spectacular. Arizona suck, what a surprise. ASU probably the only other bowl team in the Pac 10. Jsut to show what down year the pac 10 is in look at the conference record vs. mountian west. terrible. 2003 shared championship, lol, no.
My God. Someone please hand this man a water, and a brain transplant.
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Six straight AP Top 4 Finishes
2003 and 2004 (Co-Champions) National Championships
Six straight BCS Bowl Appearances (unprecedented)
Six straight Pac-10 Championships (unprecedented)
Six straight seasons with 11-plus victories (unprecedented)
National-record 33 consecutive weeks as AP’s No. 1 ranked team
Winning Record of 84.4 percent (76-14)
Best winning percentage of any Division I coach with at least 5 years experience
49-9 (84 percent) in Pac-10 games
12-2 against rivals UCLA and Notre Dame
USC has won 67 of their last 73 games (the six losses have come by a combined 20 points)
A no-longer active school record 63 consecutive games ranked in the AP Top 10
No-longer-active winning streaks:
- Pac-10 record 35 consecutive home games
- Pac-10 record 34 consecutive overall games
- Pac-10 record 27 consecutive conference games
Since-broken other winning streaks:
- Pac-10-record 34 overall games
- Pac-10-record 27 Pac-10 games
- School-record 18 road games (not including 4 neutral site contests)
- 18 October games
- 16 non-conference games
- 16 games against AP Top 25 teams
- School-record 13 Pac-10 road games
Since-broken NCAA records:
- Scoring at least 20 points in 63 consecutive games
- USC was AP’s No. 1 team for a national-record 33 straight polls (including 2 pre-season polls)
USC is the first school to have 3 Heisman Trophy winners in a 4-year span
Produced 30 All-American first teamers
42 NFL draft picks (including 11 first rounders, with a No. 1 selection in Carson Palmer and a No. 2 in Reggie Bush)
It's funny but since you've been posting, you keep on saying Penn St. will beat USC in the Rose Bowl but when is the last time you ever saw Penn St. in any significant bowl in the last 5 years? And before you answer, the Alamo Bowl isn't a significant national bowl game, more of a CIF quality game.
I admit it, USC's worst foe is themselves, it's been a bane of the Trojans for years. OSU didn't beat USC, USC beat themselves but the fact doesn't change, when USC comes out to play, they are undefeatable. Just ask Ohio St.
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Pac-10 sucks
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USC is the first school to have 3 Heisman Trophy winners in a 4-year span
Produced 30 All-American first teamers
42 NFL draft picks (including 11 first rounders, with a No. 1 selection in Carson Palmer and a No. 2 in Reggie Bush)
Great...The Heisman...another BS gauge of talent.
1989 Andre Ware Houston
1990 Ty Detmer Brigham Young
1991 Desmond Howard Michigan
1992 Gino Torretta Miami (Fla)
1993 Charlie Ward Florida State
1994 Rashaan Salaam Colorado
1995 Eddie George Ohio State
1996 Danny Wuerffel Florida
1997 Charles Woodson Michigan
1998 Ricky Williams Texas
1999 Ron Dayne Wisconsin
2000 Chris Weinke Florida State
2001 Eric Crouch Nebraska
2002 Carson Palmer USC
2003 Jason White Oklahoma
2004 Matt Leinart USC
2005 Reggie Bush USC
2006 Troy Smith Ohio State
2007 Tim Tebow Florida
Guys, these were hypsman winners. This award has a storied legacy, however it's luster has dimmed.
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Six straight AP Top 4 Finishes
2003 and 2004 (Co-Champions) National Championships
Six straight BCS Bowl Appearances (unprecedented)
Six straight Pac-10 Championships (unprecedented)
Six straight seasons with 11-plus victories (unprecedented)
National-record 33 consecutive weeks as AP’s No. 1 ranked team
Winning Record of 84.4 percent (76-14)
Best winning percentage of any Division I coach with at least 5 years experience
49-9 (84 percent) in Pac-10 games
12-2 against rivals UCLA and Notre Dame
USC has won 67 of their last 73 games (the six losses have come by a combined 20 points)
A no-longer active school record 63 consecutive games ranked in the AP Top 10
No-longer-active winning streaks:
- Pac-10 record 35 consecutive home games
- Pac-10 record 34 consecutive overall games
- Pac-10 record 27 consecutive conference games
Since-broken other winning streaks:
- Pac-10-record 34 overall games
- Pac-10-record 27 Pac-10 games
- School-record 18 road games (not including 4 neutral site contests)
- 18 October games
- 16 non-conference games
- 16 games against AP Top 25 teams
- School-record 13 Pac-10 road games
Since-broken NCAA records:
- Scoring at least 20 points in 63 consecutive games
- USC was AP’s No. 1 team for a national-record 33 straight polls (including 2 pre-season polls)
USC is the first school to have 3 Heisman Trophy winners in a 4-year span
Produced 30 All-American first teamers
42 NFL draft picks (including 11 first rounders, with a No. 1 selection in Carson Palmer and a No. 2 in Reggie Bush)
It's funny but since you've been posting, you keep on saying Penn St. will beat USC in the Rose Bowl but when is the last time you ever saw Penn St. in any significant bowl in the last 5 years? And before you answer, the Alamo Bowl isn't a significant national bowl game, more of a CIF quality game.
I admit it, USC's worst foe is themselves, it's been a bane of the Trojans for years. OSU didn't beat USC, USC beat themselves but the fact doesn't change, when USC comes out to play, they are undefeatable. Just ask Ohio St.
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Hey, how many USC are still active in the NFL and how many from Ohio State.
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Hey, how many USC are still active in the NFL and how many from Ohio State.
Matt Leinart is active....washing kurt warners 40 yr old balls everytime he comes off the field.
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Hey, how many USC are still active in the NFL and how many from Ohio State.
As far as Ohio St., I see #1 pick Bobby Carpenter failing on special teams for the Dallas Cowboys often. Ted Ginn is on the phins wasting a jersey number. Heisman Winner Troy Smith is uh, I'm not sure what he is doing. :confused:
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Hey, how many USC are still active in the NFL and how many from Ohio State.
35 players for USC; 37 for Ohio St and for our little friend B17Skull, only 24 from Penn St. In the 2008 draft, 4 Trojans went in the 1st round, wonder if B17Skull knows how many Twitney Lions went in the 1st round?
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Great...The Heisman...another BS gauge of talent.
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1997 Charles Woodson Michigan
Over Peyton Manning no less.
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You guys are really missing out, here we have BYU who is the greatest and most storied program in college football, it's true, just come here and ask and BYU fan's will tell you...
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35 players for USC; 37 for Ohio St and for our little friend B17Skull, only 24 from Penn St. In the 2008 draft, 4 Trojans went in the 1st round, wonder if B17Skull knows how many Twitney Lions went in the 1st round?
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Well, USC dose have a impressive recored that you posted. But how come they don't have the numbers that are active in NFL? What dose Texas have?
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No. Team (First-place votes)
1. Boston College (34)
2. Michigan
3. Notre Dame
4. North Dakota
5. Miami
6. New Hampshire
7. Michigan State
8. Colorado College
9. Denver
10. Clarkson
11. Princeton
12. Minnesota
13. Wisconsin
14. St. Cloud State
15. Minnesota State
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35 players for USC; 37 for Ohio St and for our little friend B17Skull, only 24 from Penn St. In the 2008 draft, 4 Trojans went in the 1st round, wonder if B17Skull knows how many Twitney Lions went in the 1st round?
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this isn't about the lions. It is about how terrible usc really is. Playing in what has been a weak conference for years now. Penn st. can lose and i wont care, but they are the best team in the the big 10 right now.
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this isn't about the lions. It is about how terrible usc really is. Playing in what has been a weak conference for years now. Penn st. can lose and i wont care, but they are the best team in the the big 10 right now.
They may be the best team, but they still havent played my buckeyes
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No. Team (First-place votes)
1. Boston College (34)
2. Michigan
3. Notre Dame
4. North Dakota
5. Miami
6. New Hampshire
7. Michigan State
8. Colorado College
9. Denver
10. Clarkson
11. Princeton
12. Minnesota
13. Wisconsin
14. St. Cloud State
15. Minnesota State
Go Eagles :aok Btw, Ncaa hockey has a playoff, basketball has a playoff, baseball has a playoff...hmmmm
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Go Eagles :aok Btw, Ncaa hockey has a playoff, basketball has a playoff, baseball has a playoff...hmmmm
dose volleyball?
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Well, USC dose have a impressive recored that you posted. But how come they don't have the numbers that are active in NFL? What dose Texas have?
35 Trojans are on active rosters in the NFL.
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this isn't about the lions. It is about how terrible usc really is. Playing in what has been a weak conference for years now. Penn st. can lose and i wont care, but they are the best team in the the big 10 right now.
Look at USC's schedule for the last 8 years and tell me they've been playing weak teams and then compare it to Penn States schedule. USC consistantly plays more Top 25 teams each year than Penn State does.
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Look at USC's schedule for the last 8 years and tell me they've been playing weak teams and then compare it to Penn States schedule. USC consistantly plays more Top 25 teams each year than Penn State does.
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Ack-ack is right about that. PSU or big ten has been a week conference, especially in the past three years. And USC has had a tough schedule, but not compare to SEC teams.
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Ack-ack is right about that. PSU or big ten has been a week conference, especially in the past three years. And USC has had a tough schedule, but not compare to SEC teams.
QFT
and by ranked you mean more team not in the top 15 right? cause compared to a lsu or texas who plays team in the top ten. for weeks at a time.
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Didn't Michigan won or tide a national champ. Or was that before 1998.
I'm a little disappointed that no one yet has said it.
You suck at tenses.
If you really are from Ohio State, meaning you actually did graduate from a real college, you should give up at life. I'm surprised that Ohio State hasn't threatened to sue you every time you mention that you are from Ohio State.
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QFT
and by ranked you mean more team not in the top 15 right? cause compared to a lsu or texas who plays team in the top ten. for weeks at a time.
Look at USC's schedules for the last 5 years and you'll see as clear as day that USC has played more teams ranked in the Top 10 then any other college team compared to LSU and Texas. Also, USC doesn't play Division 1AA or 1AAA schools like LSU and Texas regulary do.
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Last post...
I agree with who ever it was that said there should be a playoff.....100%
EVery team sets up a schedule to make the best of the record they can. Early in the year is when they can make the hay. Sooner or later they have to get into conference play and most times that can be much more of a tougher road to hoe. Florida losing to Ole Miss was an anomoly I think...but they set up that game so they could have another win.
It's all smoke and mirrors until about 5 or 6 weeks into the season....Thats when things start to shake out. Flroida this past weekend put a royal beat down on LSU. Texas played a great game against Oklahoma. Mizzou and OK State played a good game. As the rest of the season goes on....we'll see if anyone get's thru undefeated.
Texas has 4 ranked teams to go....this after beatinig #1.
They may last...they may not....fact is they are #1 now...and will only drop from that if they lose or barley beat someone like Baylor or A&M while another top ranked team beats up on someone fairly good.
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Look at USC's schedules for the last 5 years and you'll see as clear as day that USC has played more teams ranked in the Top 10 then any other college team compared to LSU and Texas. Also, USC doesn't play Division 1AA or 1AAA schools like LSU and Texas regulary do.
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Here is LSU's results against ranked teams the last 5 years.
2003
Wins
#7 Georgia
#17 Auburn
#15 Ole Miss.
#5 Georgia(SEC Championship Game)
#3 Choklahoma (BCS NATL. Champ Game)
2004
Won
#12 Florida
Lost
#14 Auburn *Auburn ended up undefeated
#3 Georgia
#11 Iowa
2005
Won
#15 Arizona St.
#11 Florida
#16 Auburn
#4 Alabama
#9 Miami
Lost
#10 Tennesee
#13 Georgia
2006
Won
#8 Tennesee
#5 Arkansas
#11 Notre Dame
Lost
#3 Auburn
#5 Florida
2007
Won
#9 Virginia Tech
#12 S. Carolina
#9 Florida
#18 Auburn
#17 Alabama
#14 Tennesee
#1 Ohio St.
Lost
#17 Kentucky
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SEC rulez! :aok
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basketball sucks :aok
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Espn, lmao. http://www.everydayshouldbesaturday.com/?p=1406
Wow, that site loses all credentials for this right here.
"4. The absence of Keith Olbermann. "
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Look at USC's schedules for the last 5 years and you'll see as clear as day that USC has played more teams ranked in the Top 10 then any other college team compared to LSU and Texas. Also, USC doesn't play Division 1AA or 1AAA schools like LSU and Texas regulary do.
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and we know the teams that usc has played weren't anywhere near good as people thought they were at the time. Point and case Ohio State this year. Arizona State every single year. They shouldn't do rankings until the first BSC come out. Utter point to proclaim someone a ranking until we have an idea of what they are.
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Wow, that site loses all credentials for this right here.
"4. The absence of Keith Olbermann. "
Yeah, I totally agree with that, but it's still a funny write up. Poor Lou Holtz.
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Personally, all the big 12 teams will choke. i hate that conference.
Ahh yes! How right you were! Chokelahoma did it again. At least Texas came back to win against an undeserving BCS team in Ohio St.
SEC = Champions 3 yrs in a row....and 4 out of last six. :aok
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Ahh yes! How right you were! Chokelahoma did it again. At least Texas came back to win against an undeserving BCS team in Ohio St.
SEC = Champions 3 yrs in a row....and 4 out of last six. :aok
yea, but Ohio State did make Texas look like a ass. I am hoping Utah will finish #2 or #3.
Correct me if i am wrong. didn't Oklahoma had a QB that won the Heismen a while back. and the same year didn't Oklahoma play for the national championship and loss to a SEC team?
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yea, but Ohio State did make Texas look like a ass. I am hoping Utah will finish #2 or #3.
Correct me if i am wrong. didn't Oklahoma had a QB that won the Heismen a while back. and the same year didn't Oklahoma play for the national championship and loss to a SEC team?
How right you are...in 2003 Chokelahoma and their Hypsman quarterback Jason White lost to LSU.
Of course that was the year that USC beat a 2-loss Michigan in the Rose Bowl, and the AP awarded them a split Nat'l championship....I say Tainted.
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2001 Eric Crouch Nebraska
Did you even watch this guy play? Ever? Probably the best option QB to ever play the college game. The guy was freakin incredible.
Guys, these were hypsman winners. This award has a storied legacy, however it's luster has dimmed.
The Heisman is for the best College player as voted on by a select club. The award has absolutely nothing to do with how well a player may or may not do in the NFL.
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The Heisman is for the best College player as voted on by a select club. The award has absolutely nothing to do with how well a player may or may not do in the NFL.
Yea, how many Heisman winners made a name for them self in the NFL?
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Sec 3 out of the last 5 national championships, case closed.
1998-present
Conference Championships Schools BCS Championship Game Record
SEC 5 LSU (2007 & 2003), Florida (2006) (2008) , Tennessee (1998)
Big 12 2 Texas (2005), Oklahoma (2000)
Pac 10 1 USC (2004)
Big 10 1 Ohio State (2002)
Big East 1 Miami (2001)
ACC 1 Florida State (1999)
UPDATE....Make that 4 outta 6 :aok
Well, Since the BCS was created, the Sec has won 5 titles, and if you add up all the other conferences together, the Pacfudge10, Pig12, Pig10, PigEast, and Acc, they have a total of 6. LMAO................SEC SEC SEC
And sorry for the Dogpile, but "Big Game Bob" Stoops is 0-5 in his last 5 BCS games :rofl :rofl :rofl
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UPDATE....Make that 4 outta 6 :aok
Well, Since the BCS was created, the Sec has won 5 titles, and if you add up all the other conferences together, the Pacfudge10, Pig12, Pig10, PigEast, and Acc, they have a total of 6. LMAO................SEC SEC SEC
And sorry for the Dogpile, but "Big Game Bob" Stoops is 0-5 in his last 5 BCS games :rofl :rofl :rofl
Go back to the beginning of the BCS, 1992. that's when is started if i am not mistaking.
1992- Alabama
1993- Florida State
1994- Nebraska
1995- Nebraska
1996- Florida
1997- Michigan, Nebraska
1998- Tenn
SEC - 7
Big 12 - 5
Big-10 - 2
Pac 10 - 2
ACC - 2
Big East -1
Well, SEC does show its powers in the national Championship.
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Go back to the beginning of the BCS, 1992. that's when is started if i am not mistaking.
1992- Alabama
1993- Florida State
1994- Nebraska
1995- Nebraska
1996- Florida
1997- Michigan, Nebraska
1998- Tenn
SEC - 7
Big 12 - 5
Big-10 - 2
Pac 10 - 2
ACC - 2
Big East -1
Well, SEC does show its powers in the national Championship.
Nope. Bcs has been in place since the 1998 season. Here are the entire BCS bowl results.
**Note that the Pig10 and Pig12 conferences have losing records. :rofl
BCS Bowl wins by conference
W L Pct
SEC - 12 wins 5 losses .710
Tennessee (1-1)
Florida (4-1)
Alabama (0-2)
LSU (4-0)
Georgia (2-1)
Auburn (1-0)
Pac-10 - 9 wins 4 losses .692
UCLA (0-1)
Stanford (0-1)
Washington (1-0)
Oregon State (1-0)
Oregon (1-0)
Washington State (0-1)
USC (6-1)
Big East - 3 wins 3 loses .500
Syracuse (0-1)
Pittsburgh (0-1)
West Virginia (2-0)
Louisville (1-0)
Cincinnati (0-1)
Big 12 - 7 wins 9 losses .438
Texas A&M (0-1)
Nebraska (1-1)
Oklahoma (2-5)
Colorado (0-1)
Kansas State (0-1)
Texas (3-0)
Kansas (1-0)
Big Ten - 8 wins 11 losses .421
Wisconsin (2-0)
Ohio State (4-3)
Michigan (1-3)
Purdue (0-1)
Illinois (0-2)
Iowa (0-1)
Penn State (1-1)
ACC - 5 wins 10 losses .333
Florida State (1-5)
Miami (3-1)
Maryland (0-1)
Virginia Tech (1-2)
Wake Forest (0-1)
I'd agree with anyone defending Utah's credentials to claim a national title this year, but these divisions are lacking an overall # of appearances to be considered to be placed with the above.
MWC 2 wins 0 losses 1.000
Utah (2-0)
WAC 1 win 1 loss .500
Boise State (1-0)
Hawaii (0-1)
Independent 0 wins3 losses .000
Notre Dame (0-3) :rofl :rofl :rofl
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1998, i thought it was 1992. Wow, i guess Pac-10 and Big-12 is not as good as they think they are. And if you look at the number of appearance in bowl games:
Big 10 - 19
SCE - 17
BIG 12 - 16
PAC 10 - 13
ACC - 10
Same result, PAC 10 and Big 12 still not as strong.
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Ahem.
Gig'em.