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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Ciaphas on November 06, 2008, 10:16:18 AM
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Today is one of the worst days the 78th FG has had to endure. Due to the dormitory politicians that fly these skies and the bashing that went on the night of the elections we lost the 84th FS and MjTalon. When they announced the winner there was enough bashing going on that it forced one of our pilots to cancel his account and disband a great squad. It's a shame that even in the toon skies we can not escape such hatred.
Seriously folks this is a game and when you take the fun of it away from someone you are in the wrong! If you need to vent your political choices start a blog and keep it out of the arenas!
Nuff said!
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Maybe a realistic switch of, "Radio On/Off" that corresponds with the 5 radios would help such a situation?
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Correct a simple mute would have worked but then you miss out on range traffic that could be vital while flying and a few of the comments as I understand it came from with one of talons own 84th FS..
In any event, when people take a conversation to the extent that it made someone cancel an account is just plane ridiculous. it shows poor judgment and taste on the part of the antagonist. The only thing people should be worrying about is checking their six and checking their mates six.
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Yeah, guess the squelch list should be enlarged and perma-squelch enacted.
I do understand what you're saying, though. It is quite ridiculous.
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LOL...what nonsense. An argument is a 2 way street. He could have chosen not to participate. People who rant about politics on 200 always amaze me. If it was on range, just mute the one guy. Thats all you have to do. Its so simple. Blaming it entirely on the "antagonist" is kind of lame.
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Grown "adults" need to grow thicker skins.
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For the record. It was on rook country channel. I don't pay enough attention to 200 to get into a hissy fit.
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You are correct there are always more than one antagonist in every argument.
I never stated that he was apart of the debate, simply a toon pilot trying to enjoy a game. I should also mention that one of the major factors involved with the individual to leave was the use of ethnic slurs, now you tell me who is right or wrong, do you think that the person who left may have been on the defensive based on the comments made?
Here's another point for you: If people are talking crud based on ethnic or religious belief over a one of the countless channels and it forces someone to leave does that mean the individual is wrong and an antagonist?
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this is a game and not a real world scenario.
no place for "real world politics".
most people, including myself fly here to escape the drudgery of every day life, if only breifly.
The only politics that should be discussed here are what the rooks, bish or knights are doing on the map to conquer the world and what can we do to prevent it.
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Agreed!
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Do people need to get so worked up though?Do you not know their are morons that dont agree with you in the world.Their are raciest people in the world their are mean people and violent people.No matter how you feel theirs a lot of people that disagree and are going to voice it,no matter how stupid they are.People have gotten way to sensitive in this world.And we a lot of us have forgotten how to ignore those we disagree with.The game my be a fake world but us people are real.
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Does it make it right? Are there not in game moderators who should have put a stop to the none sense?
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You are correct there are always more than one antagonist in every argument.
I never stated that he was apart of the debate, simply a toon pilot trying to enjoy a game. I should also mention that one of the major factors involved with the individual to leave was the use of ethnic slurs, now you tell me who is right or wrong, do you think that the person who left may have been on the defensive based on the comments made?
Here's another point for you: If people are talking crud based on ethnic or religious belief over a one of the countless channels and it forces someone to leave does that mean the individual is wrong and an antagonist?
Well what i would say is remember what game you play. There are more than a few very ignorant folks who play Aces High. I've heard some crazy stuff in this game, and it does take some thick skin sometimes. If hes just simply sick of the BS, and wants to leave, thats his choice. My advice to everyone who gets in that situation is to film everything, and report the individual in question. HTC really does police this stuff if they know about it. Lots of times, this kind of crap goes unreported. When I hear something I think is totally inappropriate, I'm the first guy to hit the report button. Finally, I would say don't let a moron ruin the game for you. Refuse to let it happen by being bigger than the other guy..bite your lip and then report. A game related argument is one thing. Racial slurs and things of that nature are unacceptable and usually are the result of a 2 weeker coming to the end of his run, or a drunk idiot who finally shows his true colors to the rest of us. In either case, the wrong thing to do is quit the game. Don't let those morons win. Report them and they will be gone. I hope you decide to come back MjTalon.
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Does it make it right? Are there not in game moderators who should have put a stop to the none sense?
Like i say it dose not matter if they are wrong or right.Do you have to care what other people say?I guess its just how you look at life.
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Ch 200 on that particular night had a lot of Racist and Xenophobic undertones, quite dark and sinister actually, I was very dissapointed to read some of that stuff on there, I just hope that we the community stamp on any racist or Xenophobic mutterings before this sort of stuff gathers steam and let folks know that this is unacceptable.
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I was not involved, I was at work; I did lose one of my Fighter Squadrons and a very good pilot because of it.
You still did not answer my question Are there not in game moderators who should have put a stop to the none sense?
You can sit there and say it doesn't matter and just ignore the other people, and you're right you can do that or you can let every one know that we as a community are not going to tolerate that kind of behavior on these boards and in our game.
Itunes you couldn't have said it better!
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That's not for me to answer,i don't like rules or bosses.I control my world and don't care about the rest.(and i agree with itunes also) (Edit) I think we should stamp it out ,not run to another chess piece
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That's not for me to answer,i don't like rules or bosses.I control my world and don't care about the rest.
Then why comment at all? Unfortunately your world consists of everyone around you every waking minute of your life. Your right you do control your world for the most part; you are most likely to have a boss and you will have to follow rules. That's life for ya.
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Maybe a realistic switch of, "Radio On/Off" that corresponds with the 5 radios would help such a situation?
actually, i thought there already was a way to close the text buffer completley?
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LOL...what nonsense. An argument is a 2 way street. He could have chosen not to participate. People who rant about politics on 200 always amaze me. If it was on range, just mute the one guy. Thats all you have to do. Its so simple. Blaming it entirely on the "antagonist" is kind of lame.
people who are going to "rant" about anything, are going to continue doing it, regardless of whether or not they get any responses.
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You are correct there are always more than one antagonist in every argument.
I never stated that he was apart of the debate, simply a toon pilot trying to enjoy a game. I should also mention that one of the major factors involved with the individual to leave was the use of ethnic slurs, now you tell me who is right or wrong, do you think that the person who left may have been on the defensive based on the comments made?
Here's another point for you: If people are talking crud based on ethnic or religious belief over a one of the countless channels and it forces someone to leave does that mean the individual is wrong and an antagonist?
hopefully someone had film running? if there were ethnic slurs, that film can be sent to htc, and they'll deal with the a-hole accordingly. there is also the dot report function, which i believe will mute the offender if he's reported enough........
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this is a game and not a real world scenario.
no place for "real world politics".
most people, including myself fly here to escape the drudgery of every day life, if only breifly.
The only politics that should be discussed here are what the rooks, bish or knights are doing on the map to conquer the world and what can we do to prevent it.
perfectly stated sir!
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I saw the channel 200 BS and and learned whose got a reasonable head on their shoulders and, well to be nice, people i will not associate myself with in any way. Lucky for me Bish country channel was 99% game talk.
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actually, i thought there already was a way to close the text buffer completley?
But does sticking your head in the sand while the morons continue to spew stupid really help anyone?
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Do people need to get so worked up though?Do you not know their are morons that dont agree with you in the world.Their are raciest people in the world their are mean people and violent people.No matter how you feel theirs a lot of people that disagree and are going to voice it,no matter how stupid they are.People have gotten way to sensitive in this world.And we a lot of us have forgotten how to ignore those we disagree with.The game my be a fake world but us people are real.
but the point is, why in the world would someone coming into the game to escape reality for a brief few moments, bring in reality with him? and then force it on the rest of the player base?
i think they had every right to be pissed, and also feel they should've reported the ones that were offensive.
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Yeah but why would you bother blaming the few who are ignorant when you can stereotype an entire chess piece? :lol
To much drama for a cartoon flight game. To much drama, posturing, chip on shouldering, sniveling...ect It reminds me why I never talk about Politics in the inter-racial neighborhood I Police in. Or anywhere else for that matter. Even friends can go crazy on each other over such stuff. I lost my old partner a few years back. He was a guy I would have gladly have stepped in front of a bullet for, I loved him that much. He was black, and I'm white, and we never, ever talked about this stuff in the squad.
Its time to learn from this and move on. Theres plenty of silliness on both sides of this. I will support this man as much as I supported any American President.
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You are correct there are always more than one antagonist in every argument.
I never stated that he was apart of the debate, simply a toon pilot trying to enjoy a game. I should also mention that one of the major factors involved with the individual to leave was the use of ethnic slurs, now you tell me who is right or wrong, do you think that the person who left may have been on the defensive based on the comments made?
Here's another point for you: If people are talking crud based on ethnic or religious belief over a one of the countless channels and it forces someone to leave does that mean the individual is wrong and an antagonist?
I was not present during this political regurgitation that night...... but....
I agree politics should not be brought into the game. As for "ethnic slurs", that is a newer word. Times have changed and some judge on color. I only use color to judge when the other person brings it to the table. Me being white or actually Irish, English, American Indian..... I'm not able to use those so called slurs. The only folks, it seems, that are allowed to use those so called slurs without sitting the world on it's side are folks of color, any color.
Let's not forget the Texas town that was going to outlaw a certain "N" word punishable by a $500.00 fine. Folks of color balked and said it was a racist law because some blacks use it as a friendly greeting. So the law was going to be rewritten so that if the term was used in a friendly manner it was ok. That was found to be illegal so the whole mess was dropped.
I figure every legal citizen here in the States is an American..... no matter what race, creed or color. I will continue to think that way till an individual choses to seperate him or herself using one of those criteria.
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Talen could of just logged off and came back after elections, it would of made a lot more sense.
Instead, he castrated his own hobby in a silent protest of people that don't really give a crap.
I am sympathetic, but I'm also being realistic.
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it took place after the elections....
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it took place after the elections....
It was the SAME day that the President elect was called, Nov 5th.
You can't expect someone to not talk about it, so long as the racial or xenophobic comments are left out. Oh and the discussion takes place on 200. :aok
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There is no place for racism in AH. End of story. Saying an argument is a two way street, or that someone should just ignore it, is as good as defending it.
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Then why comment at all? Unfortunately your world consists of everyone around you every waking minute of your life. Your right you do control your world for the most part; you are most likely to have a boss and you will have to follow rules. That's life for ya.
ciaphas,
yes, there are usually moderators in the game, and yes, they are supposed to stop crap like what you're talking about. there is also a text filter, that warns, then mutes a person for continued offenses. the problem with the text filter, however, is that it is easy to get around. simply misspell a offending word by one single letter, or put a space in the middle of the word, etc.
sunka you sound kinda closed minded. most of us don't like bosses....and me personally, i don't have one anymore, as i AM the boss now. however, as you can see by this thread, and what went on in the arena, there IS a need(unfortunatly) for moderators in there. they are NOT your, or anyones bosses. they are simply there to make sure that something i say won't be out of line.
basically in-game, you should imagine that your 6 year old daughter is sitting right next to you, and can read everything you type, as well as others responses, and she can hear everything you and others say.
i'd bet none of you/us would spew some of the crap we see or are on occasion spewing ourselves.
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But does sticking your head in the sand while the morons continue to spew stupid really help anyone?
nosir, it doesn not, but it does, however, allow you to continue to enjoy your temporary escape from reality. :aok
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this is a game and not a real world scenario.
no place for "real world politics".
most people, including myself fly here to escape the drudgery of every day life, if only briefly.
:salute How true sir :aok
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Jeebus...didn't realize how many women flew in this game with all the hysterics.
The solution is simple, squelch the 'tard and send in the film to HTC and let them take care of it, no need for the tears.
ack-ack
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About 3 minutes after the ignorant chatter lit up the channels my squaddies and a few other people tuned to a random vox, shut off the text buffer, and went about enjoying
our lives in the AH world. It is a magical land where politics, religion, economics (except for the $15 dues) & everyday real problems seem to go away.
To quote the great philosopher Ronus Whiteus:
"You can fix your nose, you can fix your butt, you can get bigger t**s. But YOU CAN'T FIX STUPID"
Legal disclaimer:
The above text is not directed towards any individual or squads, either directly or implied. Any inference of such is at the sole discretion of the reader and should not be taken as such.
The author makes no claims of validity of the accuracy of claims aforementioned in the written text prenoted.
The aforementioned text is simply an observational opinion, any party or parties that take offense to the above statements need to relax and enjoy the game that they participate in.
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I don't know what kind of political leanings MjTalon has, but if he's the same Talon-named guy that led the P-47s during the Aluminum Overcast MoM event, its a big loss for the rooks, and people should be ashamed of themselves.
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I think, looking at the big picture........
Anybody who uses 200 chatter as an excuse to quit the game, already left, whether they knew it or not.
Reading through these 3 pages, I want to quote so many, so I will not.
And just leave you all with this thought we all seem to be forgetting. Especially the quitter.......
This is still afterall, the INTERNET, and there is always going to be ignorance wherever you may go.
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Jeebus...didn't realize how many women flew in this game with all the hysterics.
The solution is simple, squelch the 'tard and send in the film to HTC and let them take care of it, no need for the tears.
ack-ack
BAWAHAHAHA best post so far!!! :rofl :aok
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.report gameID
If enough reports are logged, the offending person will lose their comm privs.
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Records film. Send the film to HTC, and they may or may not take action
There are no mods active currently, from the look of things, and the idiots have free reign in the MAs. If you don't like the idiots, .report gameID, then .squelch gameID. If everyone who is sick of them does this, we can shut them up ourselves.
You can call me a girl, or say I'm gay, or WTF ever the usual responses are- I don't care, I've been back only a few weeks, and I'm amazed at the state of the MAs- if it was a sewer before the split, it's just a big steaming pile of toejam now.
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The night of the election and last night our squad had a healthy debate about the state of the political race and where it was going the Lynchmob is a multiracial multi background group we all have our preferences however our discussion has never got bigoted or racial. A squad that cant find common ground nomatter what the circumstances are is a testimony to the recruitment process of the Commanding officer. Its to bad we lose anyone in the community but being the leader of a squad of so many different indeviduals takes a thick skin and being able to take what others say with a grain of salt. Thats how i manage my group and will continue to do it this way. besides its a game why stress over anyones rediculous comments. IMHO
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:cry Oh Boo-Hoo. Lock this ridiculous thing allready.
Oh, and the KNIGHTS do thank-you for your wonderful
contribution! :salute
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.report gameID
If enough reports are logged, the offending person will lose their comm privs.
alt R
Records film. Send the film to HTC, and they may or may not take action
There are no mods active currently, from the look of things, and the idiots have free reign in the MAs. If you don't like the idiots, .report gameID, then .squelch gameID. If everyone who is sick of them does this, we can shut them up ourselves.
You can call me a girl, or say I'm gay, or WTF ever the usual responses are- I don't care, I've been back only a few weeks, and I'm amazed at the state of the MAs- if it was a sewer before the split, it's just a big steaming pile of poop now.
come to MW dude....with a very few exceptions, there's not the same bs in there, as in the LW's.
and we can't cl ya a girl unless you can prove that you look good in a skirt and high heels. :noid :rofl :rofl :rofl
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Grown "adults" need to grow thicker skins.
Agreed...
I got so annoyed that I de-tuned 200 and will keep it de-tuned until all this foolishness ends. Seriously, If you make political statements on 200 or country ch.(I have but will refrain from doing so in the future) you are certain to tick-off/annoy at least half of the people that are on that channel. Also from now on it is an "instasquelch" when I see someone posting politic on country. As of today I will not post about politics and/or religion any AH2 channel or this forum.
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how the hell is canceling your ah account going to solve anything.
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I think the report game Id type gigs should allow us, the Community to stamp on this, Doesn't matter if it's the Internet or not, we should have a moral conviction that this is not acceptable in any format, at any place, at any time
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how the hell is canceling your ah account going to solve anything.
Saves $180 a year in ones bank account :aok
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I thought most of us were adults... Right?
Maybe with the new administration racist talk will be criminalized. That'll show them... Then we can all tune back to 200.
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Huh? What happend now? Who quit?
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Saves $180 a year in ones bank account :aok
true but that's only like 3x15 min with prostitutes in Amsterdam.
ignorance will be everywhere you go, why run from a game you enjoy just because there are easily mutalble ignoranuses around. just silence them. swap sides, and kill them repeatedly. thats how you deal with problems, by brutally killing the source!
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true but that's only like 3x15 min with prostitutes in Amsterdam.
ignorance will be everywhere you go, why run from a game you enjoy just because there are easily mutalble ignoranuses around. just silence them. swap sides, and kill them repeatedly. thats how you deal with problems, by brutally killing the source!
Or 1 terma run in Rio....hmmmm now that you put it that way I may need to reconsider my finances :rofl :noid
On a more serious note I see two separate issues here. The minor one is the chatter on "rook"...and my understanding is that originally Talon left that chess piece as a result. The 2nd is the squad interaction. A good squad has to maintain a very high level of internal respect. Even though I "run" a wing of 71SQD if I got out of joint and seriously disrespected 1 or more of my squaddies Jeff (redtop) would bounce my backside to the curb in a heartbeat...and rightfully so. A good squad sets a high bar and the thought that talon had issues during this inside the squad would be my bigger concern. The general clutter and dweebery on 200 (or even range at times) is easy to ignore...but maybe i'm just lucky in that we (71 SQD) very rarely if ever have issues in the squad (well not for long since Jeff, Bat and Steff run a tight ship) like this....
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I love how many judgments and opinions are being spouted off here by people who don't know half the relevant facts.
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Maybe a realistic switch of, "Radio On/Off" that corresponds with the 5 radios would help such a situation?
So would people actualy thinking before they opened their mouth and hit the broadcast key.
IMO it's a problem with the rise of all this communication technology, too many people talking faster than they can think.
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Today is one of the worst days the 78th FG has had to endure. Due to the dormitory politicians that fly these skies and the bashing that went on the night of the elections we lost the 84th FS and MjTalon. When they announced the winner there was enough bashing going on that it forced one of our pilots to cancel his account and disband a great squad. It's a shame that even in the toon skies we can not escape such hatred.
Seriously folks this is a game and when you take the fun of it away from someone you are in the wrong! If you need to vent your political choices start a blog and keep it out of the arenas!
Nuff said!
Sorry to hear that Ciaphas. I can sure see where that would happen. Hopefully everyone will find some mutual ground and pull back together.
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...but maybe i'm just lucky in that we (71 SQD) very rarely if ever have issues in the squad ....
The Headhunters only have issues if one of us lands to often and the plane is still air worthy.
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Politics on an everyday basis, is not a good thing. Politics on election day is fine, just because of that, election day. I only got into a political discussion on 200 one time, when it was election day. Of course, I'm not old enough, but like I told CHAPPY, don't take me for a complete idiot, I know what's going on.
Politics is going to happen when you have a bunch of middle aged to older guys sit in one arena and talk about somthing and it goes from one thing to another, then you have a political argument. It happens all time, and no matter what your going to do, there is going to be somthing said that will make people upset on their veiw, and they will say somthing.
If you are talking about the spammers on country that just come out and say, "____ sucks go ___" then thats not alright, those are the guys that I just squelch, because there definetly noobs. If its on 200 though, its not gonna happen like that, it will come naturally.
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oh BTW..... IN
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I'm amazed at the state of the MAs- if it was a sewer before the split, it's just a big steaming pile of poop now.
Hubs do you mind if I use that as a sig? It's something I've been trying to put into words for some time. I think you have nailed it.
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Politics on an everyday basis, is not a good thing. Politics on election day is fine, just because of that, election day. I only got into a political discussion on 200 one time, when it was election day. Of course, I'm not old enough, but like I told CHAPPY, don't take me for a complete idiot, I know what's going on.
Politics is going to happen when you have a bunch of middle aged to older guys sit in one arena and talk about somthing and it goes from one thing to another, then you have a political argument. It happens all time, and no matter what your going to do, there is going to be somthing said that will make people upset on their veiw, and they will say somthing.
If you are talking about the spammers on country that just come out and say, "____ sucks go ___" then thats not alright, those are the guys that I just squelch, because there definetly noobs. If its on 200 though, its not gonna happen like that, it will come naturally.
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oh BTW..... IN
but why in the world would middle aged and older guys wanna talk politics when they could be talking about hot women, sports, and booze?
oo...and of course classic aircraft.
:noid
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wats a politik???
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You do realize, don't you, that people sit behind their safe little screens and type drivel just to get attention, don't you?
Aren't you giving them exactly what they want?
Why are you trying to figure out why people do stupid things? People do stupid things, get used to it, get over it.
Film and squelch, send the film in, .report moron and move on. Giving them an audience like this is just encouraging them to do it again.
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this whole situation is just silly :salute
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You do realize, don't you, that people sit behind their safe little screens and type drivel just to get attention, don't you?
so that means we have to tolerate it?
Aren't you giving them exactly what they want?
Not if someone has tape of what was giong on so "Those" people can be dealt with.
Why are you trying to figure out why people do stupid things? People do stupid things, get used to it, get over it.
Not trying to, please read the first part again..
Film and squelch, send the film in, .report moron and move on. Giving them an audience like this is just encouraging them to do it again.
Ok, so he should have squelched everyone that belonged to the rooks and detach himself from one of the most important parts of a mulitplayer game?
So let's band aid it and hope they go away, right?
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You going to sit up in here and cry about getting your feelings hurt because someone talked bad about a guy running for public office? Are you for real? What the hell is wrong with you people? Who cares! Get over it cry baby. Quit the game. Do whatever!
Turn the computer off and get some fresh air! :furious
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:salute :salute :salute
Talon, I'm gonna miss your missions bud, hope to see you some time again in the skies. Fly with us if you do.
~Plus
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ad the first part again..
Ok, so he should have squelched everyone that belonged to the rooks and detach himself from one of the most important parts of a mulitplayer game?
So let's band aid it and hope they go away, right?
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Join a squad with sensible people..
Besides, I've never had much need for a loudmouth idiot to do anything for or with me.
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For the record. It was on rook country channel. I don't pay enough attention to 200 to get into a hissy fit.
<--Willing to bet it was me. :noid
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Today is one of the worst days the 78th FG has had to endure. Due to the dormitory politicians that fly these skies and the bashing that went on the night of the elections we lost the 84th FS and MjTalon. When they announced the winner there was enough bashing going on that it forced one of our pilots to cancel his account and disband a great squad. It's a shame that even in the toon skies we can not escape such hatred.
Seriously folks this is a game and when you take the fun of it away from someone you are in the wrong! If you need to vent your political choices start a blog and keep it out of the arenas!
Nuff said!
Just restart the squad as the co and reinvite all your squadies, no big if the co quit for what ever reason there is no reason you can't continue the squad uninterupted.
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You going to sit up in here and cry about getting your feelings hurt because someone talked bad about a guy running for public office? Are you for real? What the hell is wrong with you people? Who cares! Get over it cry baby. Quit the game. Do whatever!
Turn the computer off and get some fresh air! :furious
Spot on! :rock
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I didn't read all of this thread, but it sure seems like human kind will never make it off this planet with immaturity like this.
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I love how many judgments and opinions are being spouted off here by people who don't know half the relevant facts.
Quoted because it continues.
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Hubs do you mind if I use that as a sig? It's something I've been trying to put into words for some time. I think you have nailed it.
:lol Sure can.
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There is no place for racism in AH. End of story. Saying an argument is a two way street, or that someone should just ignore it, is as good as defending it.
Agreed :salute Anaxogoras , well put
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Country and range channels should be detuneable to prevent things like this.
I don't want to hear or read what most of you say anyways.
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You do realize, don't you, that people sit behind their safe little screens and type drivel just to get attention, don't you?
Aren't you giving them exactly what they want?
Why are you trying to figure out why people do stupid things? People do stupid things, get used to it, get over it.
Film and squelch, send the film in, .report moron and move on. Giving them an audience like this is just encouraging them to do it again.
get em roc get em!!!!
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Does it still excuse them from their comments?
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this is a game and not a real world scenario.
no place for "real world politics".
most people, including myself fly here to escape the drudgery of every day life, if only breifly.
The only politics that should be discussed here are what the rooks, bish or knights are doing on the map to conquer the world and what can we do to prevent it.
i agree with this all, squeak to someone other than a person playin a game if you got a problem.
i do the game to get away from reality for a few moments (maybe longer more than not), but it helps me through the day.
as far as your views of the only politics i agree, strongly agree. who cares what your real-life political views are, i know i sure as hell dont :salute
ive got nothing against MjTalon, as ive flown with him many times; and even though he isnt white i dont understand why someone would have to be so pathetic to insult a non-white man over a game radio,thats just lame :salute
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No, it does not. There are some here that believe this was just another example of name calling or flaming, typical egoistic AH chit-chat. But Talen would be one of the last people to be bothered by that kind of nonsense...
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No, it does not. There are some here that believe this was just another example of name calling or flaming, typical egoistic AH chit-chat. But Talen would be one of the last people to be bothered by that kind of nonsense...
I don't even engage in any type of political/racial banter. I honestly shouldn't have popped in game after the election because i knew in the back of my mind it was going to lead to something epic. But I've been reading about Squelching and de tuning.
You can't detune country chat. Simple. I didn't get involved into anything over 200. It what was said over Country Chat that caused the drama. As for the "Tough Skin" I wouldn't disregard that statement, i won't debate weather i do or don't have it. Anyone that has ever flown with me will tell you that I'm not a disrespectful person in any way, form, or fashion by all means.
But what was said over rook channel was possibly the most degradable comments I've seen. I mean the political talk was expected but do some people even stop to think that they're multi ethical players that also fly? It was just bash after bash after bash towards myself and & Blacks in general ( Some tried to cover it up while using Obama as a headline ). But I've already said my peace. Please let these threads die, nothing more to be said.
:salute To everyone that I've met over my time flying, was a pleasure.
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I don't even engage in any type of political/racial banter. I honestly shouldn't have popped in game after the election because i knew in the back of my mind it was going to lead to something epic. But I've been reading about Squelching and de tuning.
You can't detune country chat. Simple. I didn't get involved into anything over 200. It what was said over Country Chat that caused the drama. As for the "Tough Skin" I wouldn't disregard that statement, i won't debate weather i do or don't have it. Anyone that has ever flown with me will tell you that I'm not a disrespectful person in any way, form, or fashion by all means.
But what was said over rook channel was possibly the most degradable comments I've seen. I mean the political talk was expected but do some people even stop to think that they're multi ethical players that also fly? It was just bash after bash after bash towards myself and & Blacks in general ( Some tried to cover it up while using Obama as a headline ). But I've already said my peace. Please let these threads die, nothing more to be said.
:salute To everyone that I've met over my time flying, was a pleasure.
I'll miss ya! :salute
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This is not good.
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MjTalon I have flown with you in special events and snapshots and you have always been very respectful of others , Its a shame it has come down to this . I hope you will return one day and < S > to you . :salute
Nutte
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Ahh but there is a way to squelch the country textbox, i lernt it when gw, got reelected, Its called "duct-tape", place a piece directly over the text box area, and BAM! high text sq, for EVERYONE.....then I quit for a few weeks hehehe <S> see ya in 2 talen ;) :D
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Heh it seems to me that some definitions are needed here? I see folks spouting off about being "racist" as tho that activity can ONLY be assigned to one race.
The facts are that ANY activity done on the basis of one's skin color is racist, and that activity can be bad OR good.
Techically any organization that supports a group based on skin color is RACIST, be that the KKK OR the NAACP or any other group so consituted.
Looks to me like the purpose of this whole thread has ZERO to due with AH and everything to do with PC (not the computer)
Get back to flying the game and forget the junk it will go better for ya.
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I love how many judgments and opinions are being spouted off here by people who don't know half the relevant facts.
People can only respond to the information that is posted. If a thread is going to be started, all the information concerning the subject should be posted. If the thread starter does not want to post the information, then the thread should never be started. If someone is going to post in a public forum, expect opinions based on the information given. If the opinions are based on lack of information, then state the facts, or never start the thread.
MjTalon good luck to you sir, and I hope all works out well in the end :salute
Just another opinion,
Fred
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Though I was not on the night of the election, I have garnered some of what I think was said. MJTalon, I find the reason for this thread deplorable. It is widely known I am a conservative and though I do not agree with Obama's policies, I am proud that we, as a nation, have come so far as to be able to elect Obama.
I have not flown beside you but I have flown against you and been shot down by you. You were always graceful in victory. Your actions in victory say much about your character. I am proud to have known you, sir. I am sorry to see you leave and particularly under these circumstances. I wish you all the best of luck
:salute
WMTom
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:cry
So I take it your guy didn't win then ?
edit: What was the other guy's comments btw. I'm sure the night before last was troller heaven, so I'm betting they were funny as hell. :D
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I wasn't on Aces High Tuesday night either, but it sounds like people were being bigots on rook country channel. These are probably people that Talon previously respected. Therefore I can certainly understand him switching to another country and/or leaving the game. If I were on I would have reported everyone doing it and if they were in my squad, I'd have additionally taken it to the squad leadership with the expectation that they be booted. If they weren't booted (after a fair trial, as that's how its done in the LCA) I'd leave my squad.
I've been online in various MMOs enough to know that in a group of over 10 people or so, there's always going to be people who hide behind their anonymity and push their free-speech rights as far as they go. The thing is, free speech rights don't go as far within the game of Aces High as they can go elsewhere in the USA and other free countries... within Aces High there are additional rules you agree to when you join the game. But these people will say it anyways and wait for the punishment, which will only come if they're reported.
These people will always exist and say their offensive statements, the best thing to do is report and move on, and if they remain in the game because HiTech is lax in banning them, don't associate with them. But even if they're banned, 2 more will take their place. Because of that I don't see the logic in quitting the game... there are no alternative games where these people don't exist. The good guys quitting seems like a harsh and unfair penalty for the bad guy's poor behavior, and its self inflicted.
I guess the TL;DR version is Talon, don't quit!
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:salute was fun flying with you talen sure gonna miss your runway missions
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Heh it seems to me that some definitions are needed here? I see folks spouting off about being "racist" as tho that activity can ONLY be assigned to one race.
The facts are that ANY activity done on the basis of one's skin color is racist, and that activity can be bad OR good.
Techically any organization that supports a group based on skin color is RACIST, be that the KKK OR the NAACP or any other group so consituted.
Looks to me like the purpose of this whole thread has ZERO to due with AH and everything to do with PC (not the computer)
Get back to flying the game and forget the junk it will go better for ya.
Wow, what a troll. Keep it up. :rolleyes:
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Techically any organization that supports a group based on skin color is RACIST, be that the KKK OR the NAACP or any other group so consituted.
ehem! it is 2008, we all know it's racist only when whitey does it :aok
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Seriously folks this is a game and when you take the fun of it away from someone you are in the wrong!
If only people understood this. :frown:
I don't think you should quit Talen.
There will always be neanderthals in the game and in life.
The only thing that you can do is continually
and vigilently resist them until they go extinct.
Quitting just encourages the pin heads.
If you let the bigots chase you out of
the game..they win this round.
Try to think of this as a Rosa Parks moment. ;)
Just ignore them and wave bye-bye to them.
They are irrelevant and their time is drawing to
a close. They are history.
Don't let yourself become history Talen.
You have multitudes of supporters here.
You are not in this fight alone. Fight.
Stay in that seat.
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I love how many judgments and opinions are being spouted off here by people who don't know half the relevant facts.
Relevance? Since when has relevance played a part in most of what gets said on 200?
There are so many other post on here I would like to address but there are more relevant things to do right now. For instance, Sunka that's one Kick donut avatar you got going on there :aok
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Relevance? Since when has relevance played a part in most of what gets said on 200?
Tuning 200 is like voluntarily attending a fuc@ing boy george cover band try out concert in which you are in the front row and can't get out of your seat cause there is an IED strapped to ur nuts.
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Tuning 200 is like voluntarily attending a fuc@ing boy george cover band try out concert in which you are in the front row and can't get out of your seat cause there is an IED strapped to ur nuts.
:rofl :rofl :rofl well said :rofl :rofl :rofl
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See Rule #5
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See RUle #4
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Tuning 200 is like voluntarily attending a fuc@ing boy george cover band try out concert in which you are in the front row and can't get out of your seat cause there is an IED strapped to ur nuts.
Dangit I thought they said N SYNC was gonna be here lol> :uhoh
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Just want to say brother that no matter what country .. :salute YOU all ways have a wingman T. !! :rock
Here in A.H. and in real life . Hit me up next time your in town bro :salute
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Not trying to sound disrespectful, but I hope that was a Nit or Bish squad! One less trainned squad to go up aginst in my little Rookie world!
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When they announced the winner there was enough bashing going on that it forced one of our pilots to cancel his account and disband a great squad.
Good God what a <insert slang for female body-part here>....WORDS...JUST$^$#^$#^ WORDS! I expect his period was late or something. Our country is doomed
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Wow, what a troll. Keep it up. :rolleyes:
Well I guess I must have hit a nerve there :huh since you went right for the for the "name calling/label" card instead of facing the truth :rolleyes:
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Well I guess I must have hit a nerve there :huh since you went right for the for the "name calling/label" card instead of facing the truth :rolleyes:
"Troll" is not a label or a name, it's a verb. In this case it's a gerund version of the verb.
Your entire argument played on an equivocation on the the word "racism" and wasn't worth responding to directly.
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i agree.... that it is wrong.... that we can be disrespectful to others even though we disagree with someone theres no reason to disrespect them ...we are all people and we all love this silly game ....it would be nice to see people treat each other better and with respect.... thank God we are all diffrent that's what makes life a beautiful thing ......to disrespect one for something they have no control over is senseless and in mature.... just my thought he was a good guy that was trying his best ......and to bring in crap is wrong
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Donates a case of toilet paper..... you can do one of two things..... dry your eyes or clean up the crap. :aok
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"Troll" is not a label or a name, it's a verb. In this case it's a gerund version of the verb.
Your entire argument played on an equivocation on the the word "racism" and wasn't worth responding to directly.
Well my friend I beg to differ with you, the word "Troll" can be a noun when used in the proper context, as for not being worth commenting on well........, I wonder what that creature under the bridge was now.
I find all you PC folks to be the same hypocritical types that will kill doctors at an abortion clinic in the name of "right to life"
As far as equivocation of the word, it is YOU who played that card when you refuse to admit that racism can work both ways, but then I am not really surprised since being "right" is soooo much more improtant than being fair.
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While I didn't plow through the entire thread, I have to say.... GOOD GOD. You'd quit over some bs on 200? Come on. That's just idiotic.
It means that someone you don't know, so incensed you, that you had to quit something you enjoy.
Squelch works great if you can't just ignore. The day I let 200 piss me off is the day I turn in my gonads.
<S>
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While I didn't plow through the entire thread, I have to say.... GOOD GOD. You'd quit over some bs on 200? Come on. That's just idiotic.
It means that someone you don't know, so incensed you, that you had to quit something you enjoy.
Could use a few more people like you in AvA.
- oldman
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closing your account over comments made on a chat channel is a choice you make, You have that right, but I also have the right to think that that is utterly ridiculous :rolleyes: if you do not possess the internal fortitude to ignore that kind of confrontational speech then maybe this game not for you.
why on earth would you let someone rule your choices and enjoyment over comments made in a game chat :huh :huh I dont get it :rolleyes:
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Let this thread die already, I'm still flying for crying out loud.
Beat the dead horse much? :lol
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It really isn't a "dead horse" now, it looks more like a smelly pile of dirt Talon.
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Why does it have to be a "dark" day......................... :noid