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Title: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Lt. Pope on November 15, 2008, 07:24:14 AM
 :furious It's just that... I don't see any French vehicles! (if there is, just tell me)

 I Suggest atleast a simple French made vehicle, like... the  B1 bis   or the   Panhard 178   
 or (my favorite) the   Laffly W-15 TCC .

Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: halo342 on November 15, 2008, 08:00:56 AM
French war machines that have been asked for:

D.520 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,249322.0.html)
VG-36 (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,246305.0.html)

i know there were more before the BBS crash earlier this year, but i had to dive very far in the wishlist just to find these.

someone else will be along soon to criticize your post

good day
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Greebo on November 15, 2008, 08:35:11 AM
I guess the main argument against introducing French rides in general, is that they would have limited use in both the MA and scenarios. Any French ride is only likely to be competitive in the early war MA, since their was no weapons development in France after 1940. Similarly the only scenarios you can run with them is the Battle of France and maybe Operation Torch.

If you were HTC planning a 1940 era addition to the game, a German, Italian or British ride would make more sense. There would probably be more scenarios it could be used in for a start (Battle of Britain, Desert war, Balkans, Greece, early Russian etc.) Many of these rides might have uprated 1941 and later versions that could be added to the game as well.
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: CAVPFCDD on November 15, 2008, 11:05:33 AM
but the french tanks only shoot out white flags  :lol
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: SmokinLoon on November 15, 2008, 12:05:11 PM
but the french tanks only shoot out white flags  :lol

nah... come on now.  Be nice.    ;)

People who have researched know why France got walked over in WWII by the Germans.  Most of us who have know it wasnt the French military's fault.  The French actually have a very capable military at the start of WWII.  Bigger and better (debatable) tanks, equal fighters, superior artillery, equal infantry, larger navy (at least to or better in quality as well), but I'm unsure of how bomber forces matched up.  Yeah, the new tactics used by the Germans were paramount (shoot-n-move and combined arms vs stand and fight), but ultimatly the French military could have countered due to sheer numbers and equipment.  France's travesty was due far more to its .govt's lack of action, direction, and solidarity vs its military's lack of ability or will to fight when it came to defending French soil.  It is much the same as the USA today, doncha think, yo?

Even fewer of us who researched why France lost when the Germans invaded know that France acutally invaded Germany almost un-opposed while the Germans were invading Poland, but turned around 22 miles into Germany for the same reason they were walked on when Germany invaded 7 months later.  For those who want to learn more about this I suggest researching "Operation Saar", ... and not on the internet.  Go to the local library and get away from the populist BS.   ;) 
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: glock89 on November 15, 2008, 12:15:18 PM
but the french tanks only shoot out white flags  :lol
It true.
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Becinhu on November 15, 2008, 05:16:33 PM
Then there is the French battle cry of "I SURRENDER!"
 :noid
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Motherland on November 15, 2008, 05:21:15 PM
It would be nice to have the MS.406... I don't know how it stacks up to the D.520, but it was used by the FAF in the Winter War as well as by France.
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: uptown on November 16, 2008, 09:48:40 PM
French vehicles only have reverse gear, while white flags explode out of gun turret. that won't work in a combat game....oui?
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Lt. Pope on November 17, 2008, 04:04:30 PM
French vehicles only have reverse gear, while white flags explode out of gun turret. that won't work in a combat game....oui?
You are offending me
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: VansCrew1 on November 17, 2008, 04:09:17 PM
French Vehicles. I needed a :rofl :lol.


:aok :noid
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: glock89 on November 17, 2008, 04:10:36 PM
You are offending me
It a joke. :devil
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: TwinBoom on November 17, 2008, 04:43:23 PM
you guys should real read some history books
french fought a valiant fight but were merely over whelmed by the German forces(horde)
french freedom fighters fought through the entire war and they fought well
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: halo342 on November 17, 2008, 04:49:06 PM
maybe it's time?

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v99/dichotomy/skuzzysignal.gif)
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Dadsguns on November 17, 2008, 04:54:25 PM
"The Devil's greatest trick wasn't to make the world believe he didn't exist, but to make the world believe that God did" - My version

   
What are you saying?

Since you choose not to explain what your saying: and if my suspicions are correct it is what I think you are saying, this below would apply as well.

You are offending me

 :P
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: glock89 on November 17, 2008, 05:01:47 PM
you guys should real read some history books
french fought a valiant fight but were merely over whelmed by the German forces(horde)
french freedom fighters fought through the entire war and they fought well
I know they did the German only won because they had air power. 1,500 planes vs 800 RAF i think.
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: CAVPFCDD on November 17, 2008, 05:46:41 PM
you guys should real read some history books
french fought a valiant fight but were merely over whelmed by the German forces(horde)
french freedom fighters fought through the entire war and they fought well

jeez it was a joke, french make some nice stuff, i know, its just more fun to make sterotype jokes  :devil
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: glock89 on November 17, 2008, 05:49:43 PM
jeez it was a joke, french make some nice stuff, i know, its just more fun to make sterotype jokes  :devil
The Vg.33 was a good plane there was other plane that was a dive bomber plane but i forget what it was call. But there tanks weren't the best some were.
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 17, 2008, 06:01:09 PM
But there tanks weren't the best some were.

Do a little research, French tanks were equal to, if not superior to the German tanks in both quantity and quality during the Battle of France.  It was superior German tactics, not equipment that beat the French tanks.


ack-ack
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: glock89 on November 17, 2008, 06:03:14 PM
Do a little research, French tanks were equal to, if not superior to the German tanks in both quantity and quality during the Battle of France.  It was superior German tactics, not equipment that beat the French tanks.


ack-ack
I know that but there were that good late in the war.
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Masherbrum on November 17, 2008, 06:06:13 PM
The French had THE SUPERIOR Tanks at the start of WWII.   But they hadn't a clue as to properly use them to the best of their ability.  

The Char was 33 tons and had one weakness that was exploited later when the French were invaded.   But it was superior to the German tanks of the time.

If you wanna get technical grammarboi, the Germans rarely used "captured French vehicles".   But they used Char's and D.520's.   The D.520's were praised by the Luftwaffe and utilized as trainers.   

....and You didn't know.
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: RATTFINK on November 17, 2008, 06:07:10 PM
you guys should real read some history books
french fought a valiant fight but were merely over whelmed by the German forces(horde)
french freedom fighters fought through the entire war and they fought well


Wellllll, if you want to get technical...


- Gallic Wars
- Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian. [Or at ths time in history, a Roman -ed.]

- Hundred Years War
- Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare; "France's armies are victorious only when not led by a Frenchman." Sainted.

- Italian Wars
- Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians.

- Wars of Religion
- France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots

- Thirty Years War
- France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.

- War of Revolution
- Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots as chapeaux.

- The Dutch War
- Tied

- War of the Augsburg League/King William's War/French and Indian War
- Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Frogophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.

- War of the Spanish Succession
- Lost. The War also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved every since.

- American Revolution
- In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome", and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare; "France only wins when America does most of the fighting."

- French Revolution
- Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.

- The Napoleonic Wars
- Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British footwear designer.

- The Franco-Prussian War
- Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunk Frat boy to France's ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.

- World War I
- Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States [Entering the war late -ed.]. Thousands of French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline.

- World War II
- Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song.

- War in Indochina
- Lost. French forces plead sickness; take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu

- Algerian Rebellion
- Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare; "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux.

- War on Terrorism
- France, keeping in mind its recent history, surrenders to Germans and Muslims just to be safe. Attempts to surrender to Vietnamese ambassador fail after he takes refuge in a McDonald's.
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: RATTFINK on November 17, 2008, 06:08:35 PM
I think it would be a good idea to have French vehicles as well as Italian.
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: glock89 on November 17, 2008, 06:12:49 PM
The French had THE SUPERIOR Tanks at the start of WWII.   But they hadn't a clue as to properly use them to the best of their ability.  

The Char was 33 tons and had one weakness that was exploited later when the French were invaded.   But it was superior to the German tanks of the time.

If you wanna get technical grammarboi, the Germans rarely used "captured French vehicles".   But they used Char's and D.520's.   The D.520's were praised by the Luftwaffe and utilized as trainers.   

....and You didn't know.

They use the captured tanks they got from the French in 2 line duty for radio on the Eastern front.You didn't know.
I think it would be a good idea to have French vehicles as well as Italian.
But the Italian weren't that good the M13/40 only had 25mm of armor and only a 47 mm main gun would be easy pray for tigers and Shermans.
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Masherbrum on November 17, 2008, 06:20:59 PM
They use the captured tanks they got from the French in 2 line duty for radio on the Eastern front.You didn't know.But the Italian weren't that good the M13/40 only had 25mm of armor and only a 47 mm main gun would be easy pray for tigers and Shermans.

I am more educated and well read then you will hope to be (and yes I knew).   You're nothing more than a tool who is spamming a forum.   When you realize this, life will become a tad bit easier for you.   
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: glock89 on November 17, 2008, 06:24:24 PM
I am more educated and well read then you will hope to be (and yes I knew).   You're nothing more than a tool who is spamming a forum.   When you realize this, life will become a tad bit easier for you.   
And do i care if you make fun of me? No and who give a damn we all you hate me and i hate you like it or not live with it. Now it start with the name calling what next phone calls emails? Have fun with that.
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Masherbrum on November 17, 2008, 06:28:01 PM
And do i care if you make fun of me? No and who give a damn we all you hate me and i hate you like it or not live with it. Now it start with the name calling what next phone calls emails? Have fun with that.

We're not making fun of you, you're giving yourself too much credit.    You're a spammer. 

Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: glock89 on November 17, 2008, 06:30:39 PM
We're not making fun of you, you're giving yourself too much credit.    You're a spammer. 


Really and let me guess me your going to say I'm here for my damn post count? Ya let me tell you i give my self all this credit to fail your so right you know me well don't you?  :rofl
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Motherland on November 17, 2008, 06:36:51 PM
And do i care if you make fun of me? No and who give a damn we all you hate me and i hate you like it or not live with it. Now it start with the name calling what next phone calls emails? Have fun with that.
THEN WHO WAS PHONE?
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 17, 2008, 06:44:27 PM
I know that but there were that good late in the war.

Considering that French tank development and production ceased after their defeat in the Battle of France, I would venture an educated guess that German tanks developed and produced after the Battle of France were superior to French tanks developed and produced prior to the Battle of France.

ack-ack
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Masherbrum on November 17, 2008, 06:45:29 PM
THEN WHO WAS PHONE?

 :rofl
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 17, 2008, 06:47:06 PM

Wellllll, if you want to get technical...

Without the country you so easily mock, we would not exist as a country.


ack-ack
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Masherbrum on November 17, 2008, 06:50:12 PM
Without the country you so easily mock, we would not exist as a country.


ack-ack

Yep.   
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 17, 2008, 07:09:10 PM
They use the captured tanks they got from the French in 2 line duty for radio on the Eastern front.You didn't know.

But he did know, it's mentioned in his post.


If you wanna get technical grammarboi, the Germans rarely used "captured French vehicles".   But they used Char's and D.520's.   The D.520's were praised by the Luftwaffe and utilized as trainers.   

....and You didn't know.


While some of the captured Char's were pressed into German service on the Eastern Front, far more served in rear units or in other less active areas such as the Channel Islands.  A lot were also given to the German allies such as Croatia and Romania.  Quite a few were also stripped for parts, for example the turrets removed and placed on gun cars attached to trains or modified with increased armor or in some cases, unsuccessfully with larger guns.


ack-ack
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 17, 2008, 07:10:02 PM
Really and let me guess me your going to say I'm here for my damn post count?

Well, you sure don't post to show off your stunning intellect so it must be for the post count.


ack-ack
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: TwinBoom on November 17, 2008, 07:46:42 PM
GERMAN MODIFICATION OF FRENCH CHAR B TANKS

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It is reported that the Germans are modifying French heavy tanks of the Char B (30-ton) type.

The 75-mm. gun is being transferred from the hull to a new turret. This would be a logical improvement. The gun in its previous position could only fire forward. Moreover, owing to the low mounting in the hull, it could not be fired from the defiladed position, and when crossing antitank trenches the gun barrel was apt to become clogged with earth.

Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: glock89 on November 17, 2008, 08:19:47 PM
Well, you sure don't post to show off your stunning intellect so it must be for the post count.


ack-ack
I AM NOT HERE FOR MY !%@e%^t@%^ POST COUNT RETARDS CANT YOU READ OR DO I HAVE TO SEND THIS  TO YOUR HOUSE?
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 17, 2008, 08:25:39 PM
I AM NOT HERE FOR MY !%@e%^t@%^ POST COUNT RETARDS CANT YOU READ OR DO I HAVE TO SEND THIS  TO YOUR HOUSE?

Will you present it in person?  :t

So, please explain to us why you post.  Like I said, it isn't to contribute anything to the topic being discussed, so what can it be other than the obvious attempt at raising your post count?


ack-ack
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: glock89 on November 17, 2008, 08:31:51 PM
Will you present it in person?  :t

So, please explain to us why you post.  Like I said, it isn't to contribute anything to the topic being discussed, so what can it be other than the obvious attempt at raising your post count?


ack-ack
Let see why i post? First why do you post if your going to a be a bellybutton every time? I really don't care about my post count do you well maybe you do i don't what dose it do? Noting who cares i don't but since you got noting better to do other then point up people prolbmes and think your all big and tough just because your over the pc. I came here for ideas at first but then soon find out most of them been ask for why ask for the same thing that need to be ask for? Only people like you would come out and say do a Search just like my Korea war thread mainly peolpe only want to do WW2 games not any thing before or after it seem now in days. One thing i don't get about you Ack-Ack why do pick fights with me? We all know I'm much younger then you but wait you have no soul. Go ahead keep saying more to me think i care only making a bellybutton out of you.
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Bronk on November 17, 2008, 08:37:15 PM
Go ahead keep saying more to me think i care only making a bellybutton out of you.
Think ya got that backwards . :rofl
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: glock89 on November 17, 2008, 08:38:22 PM
Think ya got that backwards . :rofl
Still going?  :lol
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 17, 2008, 08:45:39 PM
Let see why i post? First why do you post if your going to a be a bellybutton every time? I really don't care about my post count do you well maybe you do i don't what dose it do? Noting who cares i don't but since you got noting better to do other then point up people prolbmes and think your all big and tough just because your over the pc. I came here for ideas at first but then soon find out most of them been ask for why ask for the same thing that need to be ask for? Only people like you would come out and say do a Search just like my Korea war thread mainly peolpe only want to do WW2 games not any thing before or after it seem now in days. One thing i don't get about you Ack-Ack why do pick fights with me? We all know I'm much younger then you but wait you have no soul. Go ahead keep saying more to me think i care only making a bellybutton out of you.

If you didn't spam every thread with your incoherent, uneducated ramblings and actually contributed to a discussion once in awhile, you wouldn't get the flak that you do.  So, the question is, what are you going to do to improve the situation?  Other than try and raise your post count that is.   :lol

ack-ack
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: glock89 on November 17, 2008, 08:46:55 PM
If you didn't spam every thread with your incoherent, uneducated ramblings and actually contributed to a discussion once in awhile, you wouldn't get the flak that you do.  So, the question is, what are you going to do to improve the situation?  Other than try and raise your post count that is.   :lol

ack-ack
You must have ADD or ADHD.  Who would come here for post count? Any one i won't but just like the rest of the world you settle for rumors and not fact. 
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Bronk on November 17, 2008, 08:49:13 PM
You must have ADD or ADHD.  Who would come here for post count? Any one i won't but just like the rest of the world you settle for rumors and not fact. 
Why do you post here at all...you don't play?
I find it amusing that i say your Ritalin has worn off...and now you accuse AKAK of ADD/ADHD.  Do you have any original thoughts...or are you a parrot?
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: glock89 on November 17, 2008, 08:53:06 PM
Why do you post here at all...you don't play?
I find it amusing that i say your Ritalin has worn off...and now you accuse AKAK of ADD/ADHD.  Do you have any original thoughts...or are you a parrot?
I use to play and? So HTC is only for people who play so any one that is not playing HTC must leave or get shot. Well let see Ack-Ack keep saying I'm here for my post count witch I'm not but most of you believe that. But what so import about post count? If i get million do i get a new car? Bike? A vacation? A plane? HTC free for a year? Is that what happened when you hint a million post count?
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Bronk on November 17, 2008, 08:56:21 PM
Lemme get you that cracker now.
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 17, 2008, 09:01:00 PM
Lemme get you that cracker now.

Ah man, I hate it when soda comes out my nose from laughing, the burn is terrible.


ack-ack
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: glock89 on November 17, 2008, 09:01:47 PM
Ah man, I hate it when soda comes out my nose from laughing, the burn is terrible.


ack-ack
AHH EVERY ONE RUN THE BEAST IS OUT. :lol
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: E25280 on November 17, 2008, 09:02:29 PM
But what so import about post count? If i get million do i get a new car? Bike? A vacation? A plane? HTC free for a year? Is that what happened when you hint a million post count?
You sure seem hell-bent on finding out . . .
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Masherbrum on November 17, 2008, 09:37:44 PM
You must have ADD or ADHD.  Who would come here for post count? Any one i won't but just like the rest of the world you settle for rumors and not fact. 

You are not a kid.   You're an adult with piss poor grammar in "deliberate spots".   I.E. you try too hard to sound dumb.   But, you are not well read, so yes, you DO NOT contribute to threads.   
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Masherbrum on November 17, 2008, 09:39:23 PM
I use to play and? So HTC is only for people who play so any one that is not playing HTC must leave or get shot. Well let see Ack-Ack keep saying I'm here for my post count witch I'm not but most of you believe that. But what so import about post count? If i get million do i get a new car? Bike? A vacation? A plane? HTC free for a year? Is that what happened when you hint a million post count?

If I get a million posts, can I forgo the blown out Chevy Luv and get you removed from this BBS instead?   
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: glock89 on November 17, 2008, 09:41:57 PM
If I get a million posts, can I forgo the blown out Chevy Luv and get you removed from this BBS instead?   
So that what happened when you get million post. Have fun spamming but remember you just become me. :lol
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 17, 2008, 10:07:29 PM
So that what happened when you get million post. Have fun spamming but remember you just become me. :lol


There's a difference, Karaya will never hit the 1,000,000 post mark his lifetime.  However, you'll probably hit that milestone (going at your rate) will probably hit it the end of the year.


ack-ack
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: glock89 on November 17, 2008, 10:08:45 PM

There's a difference, Karaya will never hit the 1,000,000 post mark his lifetime.  However, you'll probably hit that milestone (going at your rate) will probably hit milestone by the end of the year.


ack-ack
This year or the next one?
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Lt. Pope on November 18, 2008, 03:41:09 PM
Ok, peoplez, get back to the topic... :lol
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: glock89 on November 18, 2008, 03:43:42 PM
Some French tanks wont be bad to have but some early German tanks and the Matilde 2 and Japs tanks. :pray
Title: Re: French vehicles, plz!
Post by: Skuzzy on November 18, 2008, 04:43:04 PM
This has gone way beyond the scope of posts for the Wishlist forum.