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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: DiabloTX on November 28, 2008, 12:29:32 AM
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Got together for a mini-canonball through Sam Houston Nat'l Forest last Saturday.
It was a 'tard thing to do...and I'll be doing it again soon.
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YOU????? let mustangs in there????
:rofl
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I felt sorry for them. Mustang owners are lonely, introverted momma's boys. So we let them hang out with us.
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I felt sorry for them. Mustang owners are lonely, introverted momma's boys. So we let them hang out with us.
I would agree. :devil
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Ooooohhhh dat's nice! Looks like Bronk has some competition.
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Ooooohhhh dat's nice! Looks like Bronk has some competition.
Need to build a garage for it, then it might become mine :devil
Step-dad been promising it for years.
First stipulation was a house.
Now it's a garage, picky picky. Sheesh, he's had it since he was 16. You'd think he would share :furious
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http://s173.photobucket.com/albums/w44/Take_2/?action=view¤t=THEWOODS.flv
Got together for a mini-canonball through Sam Houston Nat'l Forest last Saturday.
It was a 'tard thing to do...and I'll be doing it again soon.
Natural selection is a curious thing. Remember that when the deer/dog/Kid runs out in front of your pretty little fiberglass made-for-small-weiner men mobile.
I just hope you're single with no attachments. It's your life though....whatever.
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I'm not gonna preach to you about it, but just make sure your prepared for the consequences of what can happen at those speeds, I did the same thing, drove over a 100mph through a forest area, 1 little thing went wrong and ended up losing control, now I'm in a wheelchair, I know no one thinks it's gonna happen to them, but I thought the same thing, so just be careful.
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Natural selection is a curious thing. Remember that when the deer/dog/Kid runs out in front of your pretty little fiberglass made-for-small-weiner men mobile.
I just hope you're single with no attachments. It's your life though....whatever.
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Wow, you got me Moregay, I never knew Camaros were made of...fiberglass. :rolleyes:
Yes, there is a certain risk involved, but it's no greater than driving through an apartment parking lot where you can't see around parked cars and kids run out in front on you. We chose this road for a reason.
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/Gets on the soap box
How stupid is it to film all those cars front ends with their license plates being visible and then film yourself breaking the law.
/steps down
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Easy...no front license plate on mine. :aok
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Wow, you got me Moregay, I never knew Camaros were made of...fiberglass. :rolleyes:
Yes, there is a certain risk involved, but it's no greater than driving through an apartment parking lot where you can't see around parked cars and kids run out in front on you. We chose this road for a reason.
Lemme see.... 110 mph on a two lane road through a forest with lots of animals and a car that sits less than 6 inches off the road.
Versus
Driving through a parking lot?
Call me whatever name you want... I don't care. I'll just call you plain dumb. Mitigating risk is one thing.... I've regularly been under 250 ft of water for research, and I'm still here. Mitigating stupidity...(yours) impossible. You have so little control of the situation you were in, it's amazing. I won't look forward to the BBS posting for your memorial flight. Wake up and act like a responsible adult.
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OK........
on the surface, it would seem that these gus were being careless.
but think about this for a minute. from reading diablo's posts, he seems to generally have decent common sense. i disagree with him on a few things, but i think he's a bit smarter thanyou guys give him credit for.
if it were me, i'd have made multiple runs down that road, at lower speeds, to get the "feel" of it. i;m sure he did.
that in essence would've eliminated most risk, with the exception of an animal running out in front. coon, squrriell, and other small animals......well, no biggie. deer......if there's deer in that area. we have a few roads like that here in south jersey. never, in 28 years of driving in this area, have i seen any deer on those roads.
top that off with the fact, that 110mph isn't really THAT fast. think about it.....most of you are probably cruising the freeways around 80 to 90 mph. and THAT is much more dangerous, with all the zombies driving there. where he was, he had other skilled(hopefully) drivers sharing that stretch of road.
yea, it was against the law. big whoop. you guys are perfect?
sorry if i'm sounding abrasive, but i don't think that was that bad. now maybe closer to the speed potential of the vette they were in........
at least we know the stangs were waayyy out front. :D
rant over...... :noid
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Lemme see.... 110 mph on a two lane road through a forest with lots of animals and a car that sits less than 6 inches off the road.
Versus
Driving through a parking lot?
Call me whatever name you want... I don't care. I'll just call you plain dumb. Mitigating risk is one thing.... I've regularly been under 250 ft of water for research, and I'm still here. Mitigating stupidity...(yours) impossible. You have so little control of the situation you were in, it's amazing. I won't look forward to the BBS posting for your memorial flight. Wake up and act like a responsible adult.
And continue tell other people how to live their lives. You're a fascist. You even admit as such by taking deep dives "for research", by doing so you assume the risks associated with your activities. Call it what you want, everything in life has a level of risk, I just prefer not to live in a completely safe bubble. And to CAP, no I did not take a familiarization lap, I didn't need to, google earth is great for getting familiar with a road. My tactic was to hang in the back with the "slower" cars, and not push too hard. The funny thing was, we weren't even the fastest cars out there, much less the motorcycles out there.
So Moregay, continue on your rant about how other people should live their lives. I sure as hell don't see anyone telling YOU how to live yours.
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Ignorance is bliss.
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what was the speed limit on this road? 65?
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60 or 65, I don't remember exactly which.
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what was the speed limit on this road? 65?
my definition of "speed limit"
the maximum speed that i can safely handle, taking into account the road condition, current weather conditions, traffic conditions, which vehicle i'm driving, and its condition, and how i feel when i'm driving.
that said, i rarely drive at my speed limits, although, legally, i'm almost always over the limit. taurus, cruises at 75-85 with ease. dakota, same. geo, screams for mercy at 75, although it's like a little uncomfortable slot car. before the mustang got totaled, it was easily an 85mph+ cruiser. no, i wasn't speeding when it got totaled......was doin 35 in the rain, when an old lady in a saturn crossed the line, and slammed me head on.
the stang is reborn into my fairmont, which is getting a new interior this winter. it will be the same as the stang was, 'cept uglier.
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the stang is reborn into my fairmont, which is getting a new interior this winter. it will be the same as the stang was, 'cept uglier.
What year Fairmont do you have, my first car was an 83 Fairmont, it was maroon but I had it painted black. Had one hell of a time putting in a stereo & speakers, the original stereo was just an AM radio, had to cut out a hole for the newer one to fit, and change out all the wires, took 7 hours, then putting 6x9's in the back took another 7 hours because as you know there are no rear speakers, so had to run wire to the rear, cut out holes, then there is a metal plate under the rear deck, put it wasn't built for 6x9's, so had to cut the metal plate to make the speakers fit.
One strong car though, once I rear ended an Escort because it had just started raining and it was a hill with a light at the bottom, brakes locked up, I smashed the hell outta the rear of that Escort, so bad the rear doors on it wouldn't close, but my Fairmont didn't even have as much as a scratch.
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Wish my car was running right, that looked fun. I'll see if i can find a fun run video from the viper guys, yalls 110 mph will look like your going in reverse compared to those.
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See Rule #6
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Video documentation of Criminal Speed and Reckless Driving (left of center over 65 miles per hour) may get you in some hot water. Not to mention your confession that it was you. (Ex: What I did last Saturday...(110 MPH through S.H. Nat'l Forest))
In the Phoenix Metro last year, there was a guy who took his Lamborghini to 160 or so and put the video on YouTube. He had visitors a few days later and now has no driving privilege.
Sunny Saturday, nice temps and a nice twisty-turny road is a recipe for disaster at any speed over the posted limit.
Stay safe.
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Remember this guy? :D
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http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2ws3y_sheriff-buford-t-justice_fun
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What year Fairmont do you have, my first car was an 83 Fairmont, it was maroon but I had it painted black. Had one hell of a time putting in a stereo & speakers, the original stereo was just an AM radio, had to cut out a hole for the newer one to fit, and change out all the wires, took 7 hours, then putting 6x9's in the back took another 7 hours because as you know there are no rear speakers, so had to run wire to the rear, cut out holes, then there is a metal plate under the rear deck, put it wasn't built for 6x9's, so had to cut the metal plate to make the speakers fit.
One strong car though, once I rear ended an Escort because it had just started raining and it was a hill with a light at the bottom, brakes locked up, I smashed the hell outta the rear of that Escort, so bad the rear doors on it wouldn't close, but my Fairmont didn't even have as much as a scratch.
mine's a 78 fairmont futura. it's red right now, but i was planning on either black, or viper blue.
it's nice, because being as it's a "fox" chassis car, virtually everythign from the mustang bolted directly in. the only thing i did, was to send the fuel tank out, to have it fitted for the intank fuelpump, and a local rad. shop found me a condenser that was a direct bolt in to mate the 89 a/c to the 78 car. it only took about 6 or 7 wires, to hook the EEC IV system into the older wiring, and WALAH!!! a 1978 5.0L FI fairmont. :D
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...I just prefer not to live in a completely safe bubble.
I'm a motor head, I love cars and planes, I love going really damn fast, and I take some big calculated risks. There is a time and place for everything, if you really love this type of driving you should definitely make it available to yourself. However, this is NOT the place for this type of driving. It is completely defenseless and ignorant. Look beyond the selfish consequence of spending time in jail, and think of the other peoples lives that you might change for ever.
Think about it, 2 lane road, housing on both sides, sometimes within 50 feet with driveways leading right into the main road, blind corners, trees, the list goes on. This is not very smart driving my friend. :frown:
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And continue tell other people how to live their lives. You're a fascist. You even admit as such by taking deep dives "for research", by doing so you assume the risks associated with your activities. Call it what you want, everything in life has a level of risk, I just prefer not to live in a completely safe bubble. And to CAP, no I did not take a familiarization lap, I didn't need to, google earth is great for getting familiar with a road. My tactic was to hang in the back with the "slower" cars, and not push too hard. The funny thing was, we weren't even the fastest cars out there, much less the motorcycles out there.
So Moregay, continue on your rant about how other people should live their lives. I sure as hell don't see anyone telling YOU how to live yours.
LOL.. tell people how to live their lives? I could care less how and when you kill yourself sir. It's my wife future and or children coming the opposite direction that I'm worried about with idiots like you. Sorry just won't cut it when you end up killing someone else, for your "lifestyle". When I want to get up and go fast, there's a track about 35 minutes away that rents out time by the hour. That way, there aren't any children or deer for me to worry about running out in front of me. Also, if I screw up behind the wheel....it's my funeral, not some innocent person that just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, on a fluffluff'n public road with driveways and homes. As far as a "bubble".....hilarious how idiots like you portray yourself as stoically as you do. Funny thing is, you know you were doing something stupid but you really won't admit it. My adrenaline fix is just fine thank you, without endangering your family on a Saturday afternoon.
As well, I'd be fully willing to bet that not a single one of you oafs that were out that Saturday have a single lick of first aid training, and not one of you had a real kit with you in any of those cars. Also, for all your great driving, you're all packed up like sardines.... deer runs in front of the first car, you all get involved.
No sir, I'm not telling you how to live your life. I'm asking you to be smart with someone else's potentially at risk. The guy who did the same thing that you did (except they only estimate he was doing 85) and killed my uncle as he pulled out of his driveway 25 years ago on his way to work ( My niece was 4 years old and was in the front yard when it happened, she watched her Father die.) has been attempting to "apologize" to the family since the day it happened. He was just out for a joyride too.
You're a complete toolbox if you think your stupidity is in any way defensible.
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Diablo, you should be ashamed of yourself for exceeding the posted speed limit. But, only if you are a nancyboy.
The world is a dangerous place. It's a very dangerous place if you have fun.
Besides, I don't think many drunk strippers will be jumping out of the trees.
Gas on it!
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I'm not gonna preach to you about it, but just make sure your prepared for the consequences of what can happen at those speeds, I did the same thing, drove over a 100mph through a forest area, 1 little thing went wrong and ended up losing control, now I'm in a wheelchair, I know no one thinks it's gonna happen to them, but I thought the same thing, so just be careful.
Thought this needed a repeat
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The main concern is not killing yourself but someone else.
No one cares if you wrap around a tree but if you hit my little sister walking along the road and survived you wouldnt live much longer.
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LOL.. tell people how to live their lives? I could care less how and when you kill yourself sir. It's my wife future and or children coming the opposite direction that I'm worried about with idiots like you. Sorry just won't cut it when you end up killing someone else, for your "lifestyle". When I want to get up and go fast, there's a track about 35 minutes away that rents out time by the hour. That way, there aren't any children or deer for me to worry about running out in front of me. Also, if I screw up behind the wheel....it's my funeral, not some innocent person that just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time, on a fluffluffluffluff'n public road with driveways and homes. As far as a "bubble".....hilarious how idiots like you portray yourself as stoically as you do. Funny thing is, you know you were doing something stupid but you really won't admit it. My adrenaline fix is just fine thank you, without endangering your family on a Saturday afternoon.
As well, I'd be fully willing to bet that not a single one of you oafs that were out that Saturday have a single lick of first aid training, and not one of you had a real kit with you in any of those cars. Also, for all your great driving, you're all packed up like sardines.... deer runs in front of the first car, you all get involved.
No sir, I'm not telling you how to live your life. I'm asking you to be smart with someone else's potentially at risk. The guy who did the same thing that you did (except they only estimate he was doing 85) and killed my uncle as he pulled out of his driveway 25 years ago on his way to work ( My niece was 4 years old and was in the front yard when it happened, she watched her Father die.) has been attempting to "apologize" to the family since the day it happened. He was just out for a joyride too.
You're a complete toolbox if you think your stupidity is in any way defensible.
Wow Moregay, I really wish I was perfect, just like you. Your assumptions and cliches are both tiring and unoriginal. First aid training? 10 years in the Navy, first aid is a requirement. Just because YOU find it disagreeable, and yet you still say you're not telling someone else how to live their live, you find it necessary to post a 3 paragraph reply. If you don't care, shut the hell up. I got hit by a drunk driver 2 years ago. I had 2 family friends get killed by a drunk driver almost 30 years ago. Did that stop you or me or anyone else in the world from drinking? I guess not.
Go ahead and find ways to call me stupid or a toolbox, Moregay, and keep denying you're not telling me how to live...uh-huh. Go ahead, I await with baited breath your holier than thou reply.
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The main concern is not killing yourself but someone else.
Agreed, enjoy life any way you want but don't take the family in the mini-van with you.
At least you didn't do it on Thanksgiving week while most families did their traveling.
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He's not telling you how to live, hes telling you that your chosen way of living endangers innocent passers by. Sadly it will probably take a catastrophy to make most people realise. Some of us are lucky and get a second chance let off with a warning, many dont.
What you're doing is the same as taking a rifle and shooting through your garden fence on the assumption that it's very unlikely to hit anyone in the other gardens it passes through.
But meh, driving fast is fun, and that looked like alot of fun. I'm not preaching, but you have to accept your bragging about wreckless driving in a gang of motor heads is not what some of us think a great idea. Del, we can 'give thanks' that everyone is still here to debate the subject :)
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"pretty little fiberglass made-for-small-weiner men mobile."
Yeah, there's no agenda there.
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his uncle was killed by a joyrider, jesus, what more do you need to understand his viewpoint? You dont have to agree, but can't you cut a little slack and respectfully accept the critisism?
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If it was presented in a respectful way, yes. It just comes off preachy to me. We've all known people who have died tragic deaths. Hell, all 3 of my older brothers skydive or fly gliders and have all seen people die, didn't stop them from continuing on in their respective sport.
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Mechanic, don't you guys drive on the wrong side of the road?
That seems pretty dangerous to me.
:noid
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If it was presented in a respectful way, yes. It just comes off preachy to me. We've all known people who have died tragic deaths. Hell, all 3 of my older brothers skydive or fly gliders and have all seen people die, didn't stop them from continuing on in their respective sport.
There is no way to present it respectfully, sir. Your act is inherently disrespectful to others' safety... so you want someone to say it to YOU nicely? Doing 110 mph on a two lane PUBLIC road puts innocent people at risk, and IS NOT your call to make. The only thing I can honestly hope for is that an officer of the law sees you and you lose your driver's license, before you kill some innocent person cuz they happened to turn around and yell at their kids in the back seat for an instant, and they swerve over for a second.....
And safe? There was one instant on that film, where you went over a blind hill at just under 100mph.... during the day on a Saturday. That's just plain stupid, no matter how you slice it to make yourself feel "good".
There are places to do this sort of thing where innocents are not at risk for your inability to react to a situation that arises. Travelling at that speed on a public thruway, you are not in control, no matter how much you feel otherwise. There are too many other people around reacting to their own situations.
I believe this with my whole heart.... My experience with this matter is personal. I honestly don't give two craps if you think it's preachy. It's just not your right to endanger others.
It's a damn shame that ten years in the Navy didn't grow you the hell up.
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I got hit by a drunk driver 2 years ago. I had 2 family friends get killed by a drunk driver almost 30 years ago. Did that stop you or me or anyone else in the world from drinking? I guess not.
Stop you from drinking.... NO.
Stop you from drinking AND driving.....
I sure as FK hope so.
You see it's the combination that's the key. Drinking... ok. Driving....OK. Drinking AND driving.... NOT OK.
Driving fast for a good time...OK
Driving on a public road.... OK
Driving fast for a good time on a public road.... that's where innocent people, who didn't ask to risk their lives, end up maimed or dead. If you don't see the difference, you're truly dense.
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Moray, you're an idiot, plain and simple. That wasn't ME in the video. Someone else took it. Like I stated earlier, I was in the back, one of the last 3 cars. And again, with your attitude, there is no other agenda but your own and telling people right from wrong, in this post as well as others. Keep preaching and using assumptions. It's clear you only want to see and read what you want to see and read. If you don't see your preaching, well, that's because you are you and we don't expect any different. Your purpose to post like you do is like you said, personal, and that means forcing your view onto others whether it's welcome or not. If this is a sensitive subject, you should just have not even posted in reply. What happened to you or your family is a tragedy but don't even think for one second that I blindly drove that road, it says a lot about you that you assume so much yet know so little. But that's no surprise.
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Diablo, you don't have a leg to stand on in this argument. You, yourself called it "a 'tard thing to do". I agree with you whole-heartedly. I also agree with Moray. The bottom line is, don't have your fun at the expense of others. What you did is no different than what happened in the very same part of Texas not too long ago with fools and high-powered rifles. You probably remember, they were having some innocent target practice in their backyard without a proper way to stop the bullets. One of the bullets hit a guy a good distance away and killed him. They got arrested. Serves them right. Nothing wrong with rifles, just like there is nothing wrong with fast cars. However, when you point a gun or a car that is on the verge of being out of control in someone else's direction, you're being a fool. My wife, family and I drive those very roads and I would appreciate it if you wouldn't point your car in our direction.
Oh yeah, and the whole thing about "don't tell me how to live my life". That has been around for a long time. It's called the law. It is put in place to protect the general public from people who need to be regulated because they can't regulate themselves. Maybe we can't tell you what to do. You are right about that. (About the only thing you are right about in this whole thread). However, I do have a little hope in my heart that a guy in a black and white car with colorful lights on top catches you and hands you over to someone who will regulate you.
P.S. I almost deleted this whole thing b/c I thought to myself, "Ah, it doesn't make any difference anyway, why get into it?" Then I looked back at your tone and language toward Moray calling him an idiot etc, etc, etc (and he may be in other threads - I really don't keep up with all of that and don't know how the community sees him - don't really care, however in this thread he is 100% correct). So, I figured I'd go ahead and post it just to add one more post to tip the scales out of your favor and to plant myself firmly in Moray's corner.
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To any who whined at diablo and have broken the speed limit for any reason.
Hypocrite
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To any who whined at diablo and have broken the speed limit for any reason.
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AND THAT WOULD INCLUDE everyone here. i don't know anyone that drioves at or below the speed limit all the time. i know there's gonna be a bunch now, that will say they do though. :noid
Hypocrite
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Stop you from drinking.... NO.
Stop you from drinking AND driving.....
I sure as FK hope so.
You see it's the combination that's the key. Drinking... ok. Driving....OK. Drinking AND driving.... NOT OK.
Driving fast for a good time...OK
I'm so glad this went there. What is it to be impaired or intoxicated but to have diminished capacity? Diminished capacity to react, reason or recognize danger. Why is one form of diminished capacity demonized but others not? What is the difference between a guy driving home from his office Christmas party after three drinks, a guy who just finished a twelve hour shift in a factory and an eighty year old man who has recently had a small stroke? The difference is that the guy with arguably the least amount of diminished capacity, if pulled over, will go to jail while the other two will be told to be careful and have a nice day. The only difference is that alcohol induced diminished capacity can be chemically measured and is a great source of revenue from the local police department to the judge's pension fund.
How far does individual freedom go? It goes only so far as to not impede other's freedom. Where in the constitution does it recognize, or where in any law does it grant each individual the right to safety on all public roads? There was a time that when a person turned the key to an automobile that they accepted all hazards of the road - up to and including dangerous drivers. If you do not accept those hazards, do not turn the key.
Oh yeah, Diablo you ARE an idiot.
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To any who whined at diablo and have broken the speed limit for any reason.
Hypocrite
I knew someone was going to say something like this. The objection here is not simply about speeding but about reckless driving and bad decision making. Personally I'm the 5 under type of driver, but have no problem speeding a little here and there. Sometimes, for example on a posted 65mph highway where everyone is doing 75, a little speeding might even be safer.
This type of driving, however, is just stupid and selfish. Diablo, nobody is trying to tell you how to live your life, we are simply asking you consider other peoples lives. To think you are not putting other people in danger is just arrogant, nobody is that good of a driver. You could have a simple tire blowout and easily plow into one of those houses on the side of the road. As far as someone telling you how to live your life, if you keep driving like this someone WILL tell you how to live your life, either from behind bars or from under the ground. Your personal freedoms end where other peoples freedoms begin, something some people don't learn until its too late.
Its all about calculated risks and discretion my friend. There are plenty of ways to have fun like this without putting other people in danger. Take your own brothers for example, skydriving and flying gliders, great fun, fairly high risk compared to average activities, yet very calculated and with little or no danger to other people. I doubt anyone here would have had anything bad to say if this was a skydiving or gliding video, even though those can be just as dangerous.
Your initial comments, over-defensiveness, and insults to other people prove to me that you ALREADY KNOW what you did was wrong. Did you post here looking for some kind of validation? Considering the crowd here, mostly mature family types, that was mistake number two.
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To any who whined at diablo and have broken the speed limit for any reason.
Hypocrite
LOL. Yeah, it's exactly the same thing. I'll save my explanation that the amount of energy in a collision increases in porportion to the square of the velocity at the time of collision for my 3 year old niece. I have a better chance of the concept being grasped.
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And here come the hypocrites
It's not wrong when I speed also. :aok :aok
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Here's the result of when I drove 100+mph.
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Thank god I was the only 1 seriously hurt, 2 guys in the car with me walk away miraculously. It was a road we all thought it was safe to speed down because it was out of the way with almost no traffic, there were houses lining one side of the road, but just trees on the left(the side I went off thankfully). I can't even be in a car that starts to approach those speeds anymore or it freaks me out. Believe me there is nothing that will scare you more then losing control of a car over 100+mph, so like I said before if you drive those speeds just make sure your willing to deal with what can possibly happen.
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BTW Diablo in the 10 years in the Navy didn't they teach you something about dangerous attitudes and how to recognize them in yourself? I assumed this was a big part of the training of our solders. I learned it in flight training and again in the fundamentals of instruction, not sure how different it is in other training, but you are a classic example of the dangerous attitude of "Anti-authority" and a little "Invulnerability". You have the classic "don't tell me what to do" attitude and back it up with "nothing bad can happen to me".
There is no point arguing with you until you can understand these traits and come to terms with them yourself. Many people simply can not do this. However if you can do this, and understand your own weaknesses, you'll be able to take your own risk taking and decision making to the next level. This is the type of clear headed thinking and understanding needed to take large risks, like flying high performance aircraft or racing cars. There is a big difference in the risks you see people like this take and the thoughtless risks you are taking yourself. Nobody can tell you what to do, the only way to bridge that gap is to understand your own weaknesses and figure out how to address them, then you will know how your own attitudes effect the decisions you make, and only then will you be able to make better decisions.
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Diablo, you don't have a leg to stand on in this argument. You, yourself called it "a 'tard thing to do". I agree with you whole-heartedly. I also agree with Moray. The bottom line is, don't have your fun at the expense of others. What you did is no different than what happened in the very same part of Texas not too long ago with fools and high-powered rifles. You probably remember, they were having some innocent target practice in their backyard without a proper way to stop the bullets. One of the bullets hit a guy a good distance away and killed him. They got arrested. Serves them right. Nothing wrong with rifles, just like there is nothing wrong with fast cars. However, when you point a gun or a car that is on the verge of being out of control in someone else's direction, you're being a fool. My wife, family and I drive those very roads and I would appreciate it if you wouldn't point your car in our direction.
Oh yeah, and the whole thing about "don't tell me how to live my life". That has been around for a long time. It's called the law. It is put in place to protect the general public from people who need to be regulated because they can't regulate themselves. Maybe we can't tell you what to do. You are right about that. (About the only thing you are right about in this whole thread). However, I do have a little hope in my heart that a guy in a black and white car with colorful lights on top catches you and hands you over to someone who will regulate you.
P.S. I almost deleted this whole thing b/c I thought to myself, "Ah, it doesn't make any difference anyway, why get into it?" Then I looked back at your tone and language toward Moray calling him an idiot etc, etc, etc (and he may be in other threads - I really don't keep up with all of that and don't know how the community sees him - don't really care, however in this thread he is 100% correct). So, I figured I'd go ahead and post it just to add one more post to tip the scales out of your favor and to plant myself firmly in Moray's corner.
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Couldnt have summed it up any better, I had a very near and dear Aunt killed by guys that were racing, one of the cars came over a blind hill and T-Boned her Jeep CJ, her legs were severed near the hip. She had about 3 minutes to live (knowing she was going to die) as her life poured out of her Femoral artery on to her lap.
Its a complete and utter disrespect for others gambling their lives so that you can get your jollies. Utterly disgusting.
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And here come the hypocrites
It's not wrong when I speed also. :aok :aok
You read only what you want to read. This argument is not about speeding, it is about extremely reckless driving on small country roads. Its about poor decision making. Do you know the definition of hypocrite? I've gone over the speed limit in some situations, I have NOT driven 110mph+ down a winding residential road. I can comment on this guys poor decision making abilities, yet that does not make me a hypocrite.
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Its a complete and utter disrespect for others gambling their lives so that you can get your jollies. Utterly disgusting.
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Bah dont worry about dear.The google map clearly shows none in the road.And besides,Bow season keeps em all petty well centralised and they dont run around much. :rolleyes:
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{snip} And again, with your attitude, there is no other agenda but your own and telling people right from wrong
Isnt that America's favorite pastime to the rest of the world? :D
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LOL. Yeah, it's exactly the same thing. I'll save my explanation that the amount of energy in a collision increases in porportion to the square of the velocity at the time of collision for my 3 year old niece. I have a better chance of the concept being grasped.
I called my niece. As I expected, she understood completely. She also pointed out, in a somewhat philosophical manner, a thought experiment in a sense, that whenever an object moves through space, it is a result of collisions in one manner or another. She made the point more salient to this situation by pointing out that an automobile is a perfect example of this phenomena as billions of tiny collisions are the result of, and the factor in, the velocity that a car experiences as it moves through space. She pointed out that these tiny collisions are made more violent by the proportion of the square of the velocity of the system and this in turn makes the situation more difficult to control in proportion to the square of the velocity. I think she makes a good point when she says that your being out of control increases with the proportion of the square of the velocity and therefore your irresponsibility increases the same amount. She pointed out, in summary, that when her uncle drives 70mph instead of 65mph he is 25 times more irresponsible than the guy that drives 65mph. She said that a person driving 110mph instead of 65mph is 2025 times more irresponsible. In final summary, you are 2000 times more irreponsible than me. That is all according to my niece, she is only 3, so she still has a lot to learn.
EDIT: Actually, I just realized, it's worse than that b/c my niece squared the difference rather than taking the difference of the squares. It should be 675 instead of 25 and 7200 instead of 2000. She's only 3. She can make a subtle mistake.
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Sunbat rulez OK
When i crashed my car i was stationary and someone hit me at about 50mph. You dont even have to be driving dangerously to have an accident happen even just as a regular 1x idiot like me.
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So sunbat is just a different lvl of idiot than diablo.. Check
Edit substitute irresponsible for idiot ..like sunbat has :aok
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Yep. According to teh intardnetz I'm an idiot. Because they say I am I may just get upset and kill myself. Which therefore means I was actually safer in my car than posting on this BBS.
Oh, the humanity...
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Well, I had to change my language or I figured I may get booted. But yeah, I'm secure in the fact that I am less of one of those than both of you. I'm done with this. I think I'll go shoot a rifle into the air while driving 150 drunk. It's about all the same anyway. WoooooHoooooo!!! I need to have some FUN!!! :rock :rock :rock :rock
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*insert monkey flinging poo
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We've all known people who have died tragic deaths. Hell, all 3 of my older brothers skydive or fly gliders and have all seen people die, didn't stop them from continuing on in their respective sport.
Big difference between taking risks and doing things that put others at risk, dood. Are you ignoring the fact that the video you posted showed ya'll hauling A past residences? If you think that's cool, god help you if you do it in my neighborhood.
Take into context that I'm a former motorsports enthusiast, I have nothing against the fast cars going fast thing. I just always figured I should do it away from where people live. If you figure different, you're a jerk.
~edit~ Actually, the more I think about this the more it PO's me. It *could* be my neighborhood, since ya'll obviously don't give a damn about whose neighborhood ya'll were in.
I've saved a copy of that *.flv file and this thread's URL, and e-mailed it to cle@txdps.state.tx.us in hope they will be interested in this little self-admitted criminal conspiracy. Should be plenty enough forensic evidence for them to follow up on if they choose to.
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killing someone else is going to be tough on their family. Far worse for you is the guilt you will feel for the rest of your life.
I advise watching 'The Machinist' with that guy from batman in. Cristian bale or something.
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Isnt that America's favorite pastime to the rest of the world? :D
Yup, pretty much sums it up...but, someone's gotta do it. :rofl besides, y'all had a go at it somewhere back in time. :rofl :rofl
This thread brings to mind the following: "Youth is wasted on the young"...in most cases. :P
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I called my niece. As I expected, she understood completely. She also pointed out, in a somewhat philosophical manner, a thought experiment in a sense, that whenever an object moves through space, it is a result of collisions in one manner or another. She made the point more salient to this situation by pointing out that an automobile is a perfect example of this phenomena as billions of tiny collisions are the result of, and the factor in, the velocity that a car experiences as it moves through space. She pointed out that these tiny collisions are made more violent by the proportion of the square of the velocity of the system and this in turn makes the situation more difficult to control in proportion to the square of the velocity. I think she makes a good point when she says that your being out of control increases with the proportion of the square of the velocity and therefore your irresponsibility increases the same amount. She pointed out, in summary, that when her uncle drives 70mph instead of 65mph he is 25 times more irresponsible than the guy that drives 65mph. She said that a person driving 110mph instead of 65mph is 2025 times more irresponsible. In final summary, you are 2000 times more irreponsible than me. That is all according to my niece, she is only 3, so she still has a lot to learn.
Duly noted.. :aok :aok
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Moray, you're an idiot, plain and simple. That wasn't ME in the video. Someone else took it. Like I stated earlier, I was in the back, one of the last 3 cars. And again, with your attitude, there is no other agenda but your own and telling people right from wrong, in this post as well as others. Keep preaching and using assumptions. It's clear you only want to see and read what you want to see and read. If you don't see your preaching, well, that's because you are you and we don't expect any different. Your purpose to post like you do is like you said, personal, and that means forcing your view onto others whether it's welcome or not. If this is a sensitive subject, you should just have not even posted in reply. What happened to you or your family is a tragedy but don't even think for one second that I blindly drove that road, it says a lot about you that you assume so much yet know so little. But that's no surprise.
Ok let me get this straight now...
The topic of this thread is,let me see... "What I did Last Saturday...(110 MPH through S.H. Nat'l Forest)"
Posted by you. Therefore, I assume the "I" in the title is "you". That's a stretch, right?
In this topic you link a video that shows a car, from the inside, that shows the speed of 110 on a residential two way non divided highway. Am I correct there?
Sooooo.....
Since that now WASN'T you...per your last post.... I'm forced to believe that you posted this thread thinking you were going to be looked at like a hero for going so fast. That this BBS was going to look at you in some positive way. Since that has not happened, now you want to retract your statement. You call me a hypocrite. This last admission by you makes you a dense lying fraud. You didn't even do it now.... and you're defending it. What an L7 weenie.
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Trax's first post says it all, so I won't lecture the guy, his chick car, or his little man syndrome. :cool:
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Moray, I think what Diablo is saying is that the car the video was shot from was not the one he was driving. He was driving the blue Camaro that gets passed later on. So he was doing 110 through the National Forest, just not in the same car the camera was in.
Now Diablo, I don't know what kind of a history you have with the people you're lashing out at, but it's time to take a step back. Posting a video like this to impress people is always a dangerous thing. It's either going to be admired or blasted apart. Surely you knew that. It's not like you posted a video of puppies playing, it was controversial (and illegal) from the start. Extreme actions invoke extreme reactions.
I've been there and done that, thankfully surviving it all. But i've had friends killed and watched friends get hospitalized from doing this same thing. And along with them they've taken innocent people that were just in the wrong place at the wrong time. You can say that you've researched the road and knew it was going to be safe, but you have to leave room for Murphy to step in. One little patch of unseen gravel that spilled out of a track, a dog that ran onto the road, a blown tire and even a simple sneeze is enough to spin you off. Once you're out of control it's over. It's too easy these days to drive to a race track on an open track day and belt around even faster. Why take the chance? Better yet, why force others to take the chance with you?
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This was fun too :)
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Lets start a pool on when the video comes down from photobucket.
I say 6 PM today Central time (0000Z)
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Mommy, Billy pulled my hair.
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Theres only one zero risk lifestyle.. in the graveyard.
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I regularly run with my dogs in Sam Houston and have crossed that highway many times on foot.
I'd like to think I don't have to worry about 10 idiots joy riding in excess of 100 mph.
My kids have also participated in Orienteering events in the same park.
Personal responsibility is a key part of freedom. Absence of the first ALWAYS results in loss of the second.
I agree that driving at high speed is fun and did it myself when I was young and stupid. That doesn't justify it. It was stupid and irresponsible then and it remains so.
Anyone stupid enough to admit to a crime AND post video evidence of it is too stupid to possess a license to drive.
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Last year in Maryland,one of the southern counties,2 morons were street racing and ran some guy off the road in the process.He drove through a crowd of spectators Im sure they knew what they were doing too.
The unexpected is just that.Unexpected.
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I just lost a little bit of respect for you Diablo :frown: ... just a little bit ... oups, there it goes.
Edit : Aston Martin Vantage at 2:56?!?!!? My favorite car :rock
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Last year in Maryland,one of the southern counties,2 morons were street racing and ran some guy off the road in the process.He drove through a crowd of spectators Im sure they knew what they were doing too.
The unexpected is just that.Unexpected.
Actually, now that you mentioned that, i used to race at front street every weekend in philly. pretty much went unbeaten.
car was broken(blew the diff apart running brackets at atco), so my ex(wife at the time) and me went in my chevy 4x4, to watch. we were sitting on the roof in jfk stadium parking lot. 80's stang, 69 nova lined up. the starter, suddenly runs, as does everyone else on foot. the cars lined up for the starting line, all scatter. the guy in the nova shuts down as the philly pd pulls up from a couple different directions. the stang launches, and tries to run. takes the turn onto pattison, waaayyyy wide, sideswiping an oncomming corolla. they veer off into the other intersection, and slam another car head on. me n the wife walked up that way(no way in hellll was i movin my truck at that point.) we got up there, and saw the one guy that got thrown from the car. he was dead. there was another still in the car dead. they were both in the corolla. the ones in the other car were hurt, but not killed.
that was my very last trip to front street area racing.
they did catch the guy in the stang.........dunno what they did to him, but hope he got what he deserved.
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Diablo, I didn't watch the vid as 110 just isn't all that fast for a track or a safe bit of highway. Is it true what they post? That there were residences along your route? That hikers/joggers and such frequent this road? If it is, your driving is beyond stupid, it's dangerous and selfish.
Nobody cares if we kill ourselves driving fast, that's our business. Don't endanger others; let them decide if they want to take a risk or not.
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Diablo drag racing vid. :confused:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LpfGSUR1sU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LpfGSUR1sU)
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Ok let me get this straight now...
The topic of this thread is,let me see... "What I did Last Saturday...(110 MPH through S.H. Nat'l Forest)"
Posted by you. Therefore, I assume the "I" in the title is "you". That's a stretch, right?
In this topic you link a video that shows a car, from the inside, that shows the speed of 110 on a residential two way non divided highway. Am I correct there?
Sooooo.....
Since that now WASN'T you...per your last post.... I'm forced to believe that you posted this thread thinking you were going to be looked at like a hero for going so fast. That this BBS was going to look at you in some positive way. Since that has not happened, now you want to retract your statement. You call me a hypocrite. This last admission by you makes you a dense lying fraud. You didn't even do it now.... and you're defending it. What an L7 weenie.
You're just straight up unpleasant arent you? I've never seen anything positive posted from you. :huh
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Yup, pretty much sums it up...but, someone's gotta do it. :rofl besides, y'all had a go at it somewhere back in time. :rofl :rofl
This thread brings to mind the following: "Youth is wasted on the young"...in most cases. :P
We were much worse, we went round picking on countries whose sole military weapons comprised of sharp sticks and mini skirts.
Now that is how an empire should be run. None of this Ak-47 and IED crap. We threw in the towel when there was any chance of painfull retaliation, America just needed to be founded 500 years earlier... Then maybe in the current age the whole world would be speaking Spanish.
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We were much worse, we went round picking on countries whose sole military weapons comprised of sharp sticks and mini skirts.
Now that is how an empire should be run. None of this Ak-47 and IED crap. We threw in the towel when there was any chance of painfull retaliation, America just needed to be founded 500 years earlier... Then maybe in the current age the whole world would be speaking Spanish.
:rofl :rofl :aok
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Then maybe in the current age the whole world would be speaking Spanish.
Spanish?
Nah...German or Russian.
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You're just straight up unpleasant arent you? I've never seen anything positive posted from you. :huh
The truth hurts sometimes and that's what he was dishing out.
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Looked fun Diablo, thanks for posting.
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Diablo, I didn't watch the vid as 110 just isn't all that fast for a track or a safe bit of highway. Is it true what they post? That there were residences along your route? That hikers/joggers and such frequent this road? If it is, your driving is beyond stupid, it's dangerous and selfish.
Nobody cares if we kill ourselves driving fast, that's our business. Don't endanger others; let them decide if they want to take a risk or not.
Imagine 7th Ave from Bethany Home north to Dunlap exept only two lanes separated by a double yellow line as the road curves and hills too much to allow passing. That's a good representation that you can imagine.
BTW, how are ya Steve?
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You're just straight up unpleasant arent you? I've never seen anything positive posted from you. :huh
I simply call em as I see em. And I see this one as repugnantly stupid.
Is this positive enough for you?
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looks like an enthusiastic club type run on a decent road using modern good handling cars probably driven by mature drivers.. i don't think diablo would hang out with dickheads
if ever there was proof that this board was populated by wanna live forever sensible shoe wearing old woman pushing strollers then this thread is it.
my advice..stop pissing over others and crawl back to the safety of your bubbles
good vid diablo :aok
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Wow look at all the vaginas in this thread.
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Not too smart fellas. Take it to the track. :salute
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Wow look at all the vaginas in this thread.
Here we go with the sanctimony again.. :rolleyes:
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Do jeeps go over 65 anyway? :lol
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Do jeeps go over 65 anyway? :lol
:noid
i had a wrangler to 75......and was scared. it felt like it wanted to fall over just going straight at that speed.
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Do jeeps go over 65 anyway? :lol
Oh it will do 90 if your crazy enough to try. ;)
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The truth hurts sometimes and that's what he was dishing out.
I know that, but I've never seen anything outside of a "go **** yourself" from him. :huh
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Wow look at all the vaginas in this thread.
Umm, not quite. It takes guts to do this kind of driving anywhere, but it takes intelligence to keep it in its place. I don't think anyone would call a stuntman a poof if he lit himself on fire while surrounded by a safety crew and extinguishers. But if a guy does the same stunt at home with his friends and a vid camera you've got to let him know it isn't smart. It's the same thing. Driving fast is a test of skill, an incredible rush and an awesome way to spend the day. However, it needs to be kept in its place....the track.
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it might just be time to let this thread die now. :D
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Got together for a mini-canonball through Sam Houston Nat'l Forest last Saturday.
It was a 'tard thing to do...and I'll be doing it again soon.
Careful. Cops have been out in force big time lately. Made 2 runs yesterday from the Katy area to I-45S & Beltway 8. I saw 7 cops, radar guns out, on the drives up, and 4 on the way back. That's 10 more than normal. :eek:
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Careful. Cops have been out in force big time lately. Made 2 runs yesterday from the Katy area to I-45S & Beltway 8. I saw 7 cops, radar guns out, on the drives up, and 4 on the way back. That's 10 more than normal. :eek:
DUDE.....
in the south jersey area, specifically, somerdale, stratford, lawnside, and magnolia.....sometimes lindenwold, they're like flies on cow droppings.
there;s a 2 mile stretch of rt.30, that i use comming home from philly. after 11:30pm, never any less than a dozen. i actually got pulled over in my van 2 weeks ago. cop asks me if i know why he stopped me.(like they always do), and i replied, that i knew for fact i wasn't speeding, and all my lights were good, so i hadn't a clue. he tells me i need commercial tags on my van, because it has my shops name on it. :rolleyes:
revenue generators. ya......my van was a danger to society. :rofl i normally repsect police....but stupid poopoo like that takes a lot of it away.
on the plus side, i'm friends with a good friend of the judge in that town. this one will go away. :D
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Those Jersey cops wear Gestapo uniforms.
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Do jeeps go over 65 anyway? :lol
I've installed the flux capacitor in my Jeep. I just can't make it go 88 mph :furious
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Those Jersey cops wear Gestapo uniforms.
only the state pd. i kinda think that every time i see one out of his car. only the colors are wrong.
laurel springs pd sometimes look like swat team members.
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I stay on my side of the river as often as possible.
I never have luck. As soon as they see the missing front license plate (as we in PA don not have such superfluous things) I see them turn around to see what the out-of state guy is doing.
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I stay on my side of the river as often as possible.
I never have luck. As soon as they see the missing front license plate (as we in PA don not have such superfluous things) I see them turn around to see what the out-of state guy is doing.
yea...theyve been doin that forever. my ex-wife was from northeast philly. she stopped driving to get to my house, and took the hispeedline instead. she kept getting stopped.
my friend calls this the "peoples free republic of new jersey".
:rofl
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yea...theyve been doin that forever. my ex-wife was from northeast philly. she stopped driving to get to my house, and took the hispeedline instead. she kept getting stopped.
my friend calls this the "peoples free republic of new jersey".
:rofl
LOL
Not even taking in account the fact the you can cross the Delaware to get there for free, but you gotta pay to leave :furious
(I think it just went up to $4.00 this week, too)
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DUDE.....
Ouch :(
Sounds like driving through Louisiana or Georgia. Georgia cops make a killing nailing all the vacationers headed to Florida speeding down the freeways.
Houston is only bad at the beginning & end of each month. The first week is all the eager beavers. The last week is all the johnnie-come-latelys. They don't have quotas here. They have "goals" to meet. :rolleyes:
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yea...theyve been doin that forever. my ex-wife was from northeast philly. she stopped driving to get to my house, and took the hispeedline instead. she kept getting stopped.
my friend calls this the "peoples free republic of new jersey".
:rofl
CAP, is it true that in Jersey you can't even pump your own gas?
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CAP, is it true that in Jersey you can't even pump your own gas?
BY LAW, WE CAN'T.
when i had my mustang..the one i posted a pic of in the other place......no one touched that car. i always pumped my own. i do in my dakota too. if i'm a bit impatient, even in my taurus i will, and NOBODY touches my bike.
some others pump thjeir own, but most are lazy poopoos, and just sit in their cars like a bunch of zombies.
i think we're the only state in the union, that doesn't allow it.
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Wow...
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BY LAW, WE CAN'T.
Sad, just masking sad.
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Sad, just masking sad.
define ""masking sad"
:rofl :rofl
and, yes, i know.
what would be more sad though, would be all the attendents suddenly collecting unemployment till their visas expired. :noid
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One day maybe our leaders will wise up and give the benifit in food and shelter only, not lumps of cash. It's much harder to exchange food and shelter for heroin or crack than it is with cash. duh.. :huh
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One day maybe our leaders will wise up and give the benifit in food and shelter only, not lumps of cash. It's much harder to exchange food and shelter for heroin or crack than it is with cash. duh.. :huh
now THAT is an excellent idea.
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BY LAW, WE CAN'T.
when i had my mustang..the one i posted a pic of in the other place......no one touched that car. i always pumped my own. i do in my dakota too. if i'm a bit impatient, even in my taurus i will, and NOBODY touches my bike.
some others pump thjeir own, but most are lazy poopoos, and just sit in their cars like a bunch of zombies.
i think we're the only state in the union, that doesn't allow it.
I didn't know it was law. :lol A few years ago, maybe around 2002, i was working in either edison, or hackensack and stopped for fuel. I swiped the gas card and started to fill up like normal.
This indian guy with a big towel hat and zz top beard came running over, yelling my friend, my friend you can't do that.
I started laughing, and said don't worry man, thanks i got it, continuing to fill up.
He looked around nervously, and said again, noooo my friend you cannot pump gas here.
I started to get pissed, and again said listen i've got it under control.
One more time now in an angry voice he says, my friend you CAN NOT DO THAT! pointing his finger at me.
I had enough and stopped at 15 gallons, called him a terrorist *(#@ got in my van and left.
:O Now that explains it. To bad he didn't just say it was against jersey law.
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Speed, that is totally reckless and irresponsible behaviour on your part. You're very lucky, and I mean VERY LUCKY to have escaped with your life or not hurting an innocent person having their gas pumped by Dusty Hill or Billy Gibbons.
BTW, the towel hat and ZZ Top beard reference were hillarious. 2 thumbs up, way up!
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Speed, that is totally reckless and irresponsible behaviour on your part. You're very lucky, and I mean VERY LUCKY to have escaped with your life or not hurting an innocent person having their gas pumped by Dusty Hill or Billy Gibbons.
BTW, the towel hat and ZZ Top beard reference were hillarious. 2 thumbs up, way up!
i hafta agree with that.......i nevert hought of that reference before.
the 2 that pump gas out in front of my shop, are quick though. they're at your car before you getr it in park...or get the e-brake set if a manual tranny........