Crying about it! LMAO he has a valid point. Last night Shawk and I was defending 86. And X3X was warping everywhere. You cant hit him. So what looks like him warping into the ground 5 seconds later I am bombed. That is just plain unacceptable!
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Bascially, these dudes just need to updated systems, got off dial-up (don't give the BS excuse about how dial-up can potentially have low latency because in all my years, I've never ever seen it) and get with the program. Guys who are utilizing wireless or satellite are pretty much up the creek. Satellite has probably the worst absolute latency times when it comes to gaming.
I think people who are playing on these older systems as well as less-than workable connections truly have no clue seeing that they've probably never seen or never played this game how it was meant to be played and are also most likely computer illiterate. And than again, some dudes just straight-up don't have the cash to get a better PC or a better connection..
Can't really fault these types of people unless they are well aware of what is going on and how the games networking properties work..
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Basically, these dudes just need to get updated systems, got off dial-up (don't give the BS excuse about how dial-up can potentially have low latency because in all my years, I've never ever seen it) and get with the program. Guys who are utilizing wireless or satellite are pretty much up the creek. Satellite has probably the worst absolute latency times when it comes to gaming.
I think people who are playing on these older systems as well as less-than workable connections truly have no clue seeing that they've probably never seen or never played this game how it was meant to be played and are also most likely computer illiterate. And then again, some dudes just straight-up don't have the cash to get a better PC or a better connection..
Can't really fault these types of people unless they are well aware of what is going on and how the games networking properties work..
And I don't think they are purposely exploiting this either. No one wants to warp. Well, some people might.. But I'd the majority don't know it.
Warping is an issue that will never go away until everyone is on fiber and less than a mile away from the head-end.
Rubbish. AH uses very little bandwidth, even dialup is ok.
Dial-Up is fine. I have a squaddy that flies on dial-up and I've never seen him warp.
In fact, Larry, you play on dial-up, don't you? Or used to until recently?
**Sigh**
I knew the "dial-up" proponents were going to come to their own aid.
You guys may believe that your 56k or less connection is ample.
But in reality, unless you are in a near perfect situation as far as dial-up is concerned, it
is not sufficient in anyway. To say anything else is absurd.
Try using a typical dial-up connection on Titanic Tuesday in the middle of the map.. See what happens... :rofl
See how many times someone complains because you are warping..
Most online games boot people from the server for crappy connections and HTC should seriously think about doing the same.
BOOT ALL WARPERS!! Then see how long aces high is around.
It's just amazing when I see Vets like shawk crying about warping as if the warper were doing it on purpose.When we have all read these threads a million times until Skuzzy has to come in and explain once again about warping.
I'm wondering, should players with crap connects be able to just constantly warp around the arena?
I mean I can understand that sometimes the intardnet has some issues, but I can name a few guys
that warp EVERY SINGLE TIME I SEE EM! Shouldn't there be a limit to packet loss before you get the boot?
Is it fair to allow these guys to warp from 1K in front of you to 1K behind you, then dissapear into the ground,
only to re-appear 5K away? Seriously, is this Aces High or Star Trek?
I dropped a bomb on a guy this morning, direct hit...nothing, so I turn around for another pass about 10 secs later BOOM he explodes. Of course he claims he's on Satellite and can do nothing about it.
Several others who I can name, do close to the same thing and everyone knows it.
X3X is the worst I've seen yet, but JoeBlack and NoFether hold close 2nds.
It's not just sometimes, It's EVERYTIME!
I'm sure plenty of you have run across these guys and seen the same thing. :eek:
Guido77 is by far the warpyest player Iv ever seen in AH. Not once have I seen him when he isn't warping. From 6k to 200ft he warps just as bad. I seen him many times warp from someones gunsight to their six and shot them. People with these connections should be booted no matter the excuse.
I never said a THING about bandwidth. Bandwidth means nothing when it comes to latency.. It is feasible to have a connection with low bandwidth yet have low latency as well.If your ping is STEADY, it doesnt matter what it is--I've been doing dialup for 13 years, and know which brand of modem works best, and which phone number works best, am always around 180-200 ping, assuming no browsing windows are open. Alas, Americas Army, (or any 1st person shooter) is out of the question, as they demand heap more bandwidth)
Please, don't put words into my mouth. And no, in most cases, dial-up is insufficient. Don't kid yourself. :)
It's just amazing when I see Vets like shawk crying about warping as if the warper were doing it on purpose.When we have all read these threads a million times until Skuzzy has to come in and explain once again about warping.
I play on dial up and even on the worst connection I have, I dont lag. very surprising.(frame rates go to hell tho) I think dial up is fine its people that play on satielite(cant spell) and wireless (sometimes not all) that have the most problems.
intardnet<--LMAO :rofl
X3X<--and X3X does it on purpose, it's pretty obvious. I'm surprised he hasn't been banned yet.
It's just amazing when I see Vets like shawk crying about warping as if the warper were doing it on purpose.When we have all read these threads a million times until Skuzzy has to come in and explain once again about warping.
Dial-Up is fine. I have a squaddy that flies on dial-up and I've never seen him warp.
In fact, Larry, you play on dial-up, don't you? Or used to until recently?
#1 Re-Read my post. I don't recall crying anywhere. If you wanna imply that, then your reading your own conclusion.
Just bringing it to the forum as you have is crying
#2 The YankMee's Suck, most overrated overpaid players in all of baseball. :aok
I don't care what you think, Yankees don't either
Basically, these dudes just need to get updated systems, got off dial-up (don't give the BS excuse about how dial-up can potentially have low latency because in all my years, I've never ever seen it) and get with the program.
I think what SHawk was saying was that the most blatant, most habitual warpers shouldn't be able to stay connected. I'm glad he mentioned X3X because that guy warps like there's no tomorrow, and I mean, he warps across the map again and again, day after day. Obviously there will be minor warps here and there from everybody but there are a dozen or so players who have such ludicrous lag, that it disrupts gameplay for everybody. I think when you are warping 2k regularly, you should lose your connection more often than how it is set now.
Like i said he does it on purpose. I don't mind people that have the occasonal hiccup, but he's just out of control
People with slower systems than this will warp even more so.. There are guys still playing this game with Pentium 3's and old Geforce 440MX video cards or worse.
No matter how much you'd like to classify it as a whine, or crying, it is not. Restate your desire a million times, and it still will not be true. Get over it.
There should be some sort of limit on how much and how often you can warp. A few surges every once in a while is one thing. If you constantly warp enough to go through the ground, and bounce along like a ping pong ball in a hurricane swirling over an earthquake, you should be booted.
I played on a P-III 600 with an MX-440 until March of this year. Never once did anyone complain about me warping. So much for that theory.
I think it's silly that all the people with slow computers or use dialup to play Aces High have come roaring to the defense of warpers everywhere. The OP never said anything about what type of setup you have, pretty sure SHawk just called into question the players that warp heavily on a nightly basis. (They've already all been mostly named in this thread) Anyone who has flown against X3X would not be arguing against the OP here.
I think it's silly that all the people with slow computers or use dialup to play Aces High have come roaring to the defense of warpers everywhere. The OP never said anything about what type of setup you have, pretty sure SHawk just called into question the players that warp heavily on a nightly basis (They've already all been mostly named in this thread) Anyone who has flown against X3X would not be arguing against the OP here.
Utilizing the game with the frame rate of a photo album is not considered "played"...
Simply put, you're full of dog crap.... :lol
I have several systems in my home, among them a few PIII's...
Anything under a PIII 933mhz won't run it in any way worth playing...
PIII 600mhz with Geforce MX440 simply won't run it at any rate worth playing...
My PIII 667mhZ even has a Geforce 4 Ti 4600 and I still can't get the game to play with anything better than
picture book type frame rates before the system locks up....
It's not a theory... It's the truth...
Now, stop being a troll :)
The problem with bringing up the whole warp thing is that it is an internet problem, A bunch of people will bring up the names of others with conection problems (warping) others will chime in with all kinds of other nonsense from cbl pullers to server problems, then when Skuzzy has heard enough he'll pop in and say what he always says.
Then give it a little time and some one else will bring it all up again. Warping is going to be around no matter what, sometimes relogging helps but no one is warping intentionally.
This is a wasted thread. my point is that the OP knows better then to bring it up yet again.
I played AHII on an AMD K6III 550 based rig with 512MB of RAM and a GeForce Ti AGP video card. Granted, I never got more than 60FPS at the absolute minimum settings (in a clear sky with no one around), and a scenario was out of the question, but I did play on that machine. That is a FACT. Just because YOU cannot make it work does not mean some one else cannot do it. I've always been a couple of years or more behind the curve when it comes owning computers, so I've spent the better part of a decade and a half tweaking and tuning, not to mention bargain hunting.
I played AHII with my old FIC PA2013/K6III 550 based rig LONG after it was WELL below the minimum requirements. I did not have warping issues either. I did have a lot of times where it was a slide show when the action got heavy. Hell, I even used the video card from it in the rig that replaced it because I couldn't justify spending the money on a new one.
You could SAY anything you like, what you KNOW is not necessarily what you THINK you KNOW. I did not keep up with the dates, I have no need to. I know I was using an old out of date rig long after it should have been replaced. Possibly ONCE in at least 15 YEARS have I had a rig even CLOSE to state of the art, and that was a couple of years ago.
Well I admit I hate getting behind someone just for them to warp off and run away, but what if they can't afford a new computer or internet?
Still don't believe you due to my own experience, not based on what I think I know.. :) But, whatever....
We can go on and on with you attempting to justify the usefulness and capabilities of severely out-dated, obsolete hard-ware..
By all means, be frugal! It's your money! <S>
I could care less if you believe me. My 15 years of experience speaks for itself. I've been doing this since about 1993, I figure by now I'm pretty damned qualified.
I'm not justifying anything, if you were paying attention, you'd see that. All I am saying is that the game can and has been played with a lot less than what you think is possible.
I'm not being frugal at all, my current rig was almost $1K in parts alone, and quite capable.
Simply put, BS... :)
If you don't care what I believe, why respond?
I wouldn't call frame rates of 10 or below "playing" the game....
Those of us who've been doing this for years know the smell of BS, and you're permeated with it. The ONLY reason I responded is because your BS might be interpreted as facts by someone who hasn't done this long enough to know better.
Facts are facts.. Dare I post the technical data and numbers to prove it?
Frame rates of 10 or below are not considered playing the game... Not by any means...
You really want to make this a knowledge war, friend?
What BS have I said here? None... Only true facts based on experimentation and observation.. :)
You're starting to sound like Krusty..
I'm not your friend. I never said normal frame rates under 10 FPS, I said scenarios. Like I said, I've been doing this for about 15 years.
Further, what technical data do you have on a system I owned over 3 years ago and have long since pieced out and given away? NONE. Simple isn't it? You are questioning something you have zero personal knowledge of. So you have no facts based on experimentation and observation on a system you never owned. Good luck on posting those facts you do not have. :rolleyes:
I'm not your friend. I never said normal frame rates under 10 FPS, I said scenarios. Like I said, I've been doing this for about 15 years.
Further, what technical data do you have on a system I owned over 3 years ago and have long since pieced out and given away? NONE. Simple isn't it? You are questioning something you have zero personal knowledge of. So you have no facts based on experimentation and observation on a system you never owned. Good luck on posting those facts you do not have. :rolleyes:
Lol ''get a new connection ''
I have 2 choices and they are both controlled by one of them (omantel)....and it's only been since this march that i had a second choice (nawras).
It might be getting old to you , but to some there is no other choice !
Anodizer don't worry about the good captain, he is one of the "I'm right your wrong,I've been playing for 15 years" blowhards on these boards and will argue with you until the end of time.
Now now guys...can't we just get along? Hate seeing fellow SAPPers arguing :cry
<<<<<<<<<<<isn't arguing.
on topic though, if someone warps in front of ya, then just leave, go find someone else to kill.
pretty easy, really. :D
Utilizing the game with the frame rate of a photo album is not considered "played"...
Simply put, you're full of dog crap.... :lol
I have several systems in my home, among them a few PIII's...
Anything under a PIII 933mhz won't run it in any way worth playing...
PIII 600mhz with Geforce MX440 simply won't run it at any rate worth playing...
My PIII 667mhZ even has a Geforce 4 Ti 4600 and I still can't get the game to play with anything better than
picture book type frame rates before the system locks up....
It's not a theory... It's the truth...
Now, stop being a troll :)
I'm wondering, should players with crap connects be able to just constantly warp around the arena?
I mean I can understand that sometimes the intardnet has some issues, but I can name a few guys
that warp EVERY SINGLE TIME I SEE EM! Shouldn't there be a limit to packet loss before you get the boot?
Is it fair to allow these guys to warp from 1K in front of you to 1K behind you, then dissapear into the ground,
only to re-appear 5K away? Seriously, is this Aces High or Star Trek?
I dropped a bomb on a guy this morning, direct hit...nothing, so I turn around for another pass about 10 secs later BOOM he explodes. Of course he claims he's on Satellite and can do nothing about it.
Several others who I can name, do close to the same thing and everyone knows it.
X3X is the worst I've seen yet, but JoeBlack and NoFether hold close 2nds.
It's not just sometimes, It's EVERYTIME!
I'm sure plenty of you have run across these guys and seen the same thing. :eek:
....X3X is the worst I've seen yet,....
Sorry, but there is.Yep, it's an exploit.. borderline cheating.
Not playing.
Sounds harsh, but if someone isn't occasionally warping but each and every time, he is ruining the fun for everyone around him.
I remember one particular player in EW and MW that was constantly warping day in and day out. He could pork fields and take down towns with impunity because for him the ground and the objects aren't warping at all. It was almost impossible to attack him and to shoot him down because of all his warping, and even worse - you were in danger of dying from a warp-collision every time you tried. With only a few payers on and all fighting over one base it was impossible to just ignore him, especially if you are desperately trying to defend that base.
His standard answer was "I can't do anything about it" too.
That's unfortunate for him but it would have been nice & reasonable to stop playing under such circumstances until you have your problem resolved instead of just shrugging.
BTW, depending on source of warpiness it can indeed happen that you may warp to everybody else but are not seeing the same. Happened to me a short while ago, all seemed smooth on my end until several payers asked me to relog.
i find it highly strange that X3X warps ONLY when he is coming in to strafe me, but on the egress and circle around, he never warps, ??? and no i am not accusing.
i agree fully to a limit to packet loss, some of these things are getting way to bad....
opposum
Anodizer don't worry about the good captain, he is one of the "I'm right your wrong,I've been playing for 15 years" blowhards on these boards and will argue with you until the end of time.
then maybe we should argue so we can fit in :D
<hijack> I'll be coming nto MW more often...hope to see ya in there CAP </hijack>
#S# Banshee7
That was the complete truth and I don't appreciate being called a liar. I've still got that machine, it's still hooked up and still has AH installed. Besides a PIII 600 and a 32 meg MX-440 it was running only 512 K PC100/133 SRAM and Win98.
That machine would normally run the game between 15-25 FPS (sometimes higher... 35 fps) except when there were massive bomber missions. It would chug down to about 2-3 fps around multiple flights of bombers and about 5 FPS in those low hanging fog banks on SmPizza so those were situations I simply avoided. Of course, I had to run graphic settings on low and use 512 textures without skins.
If you'd like proof come on over. Evidently you just don't know how to keep a machine running at it's best.
BTW, Maybe you'd like to duel me while I'm on my old machine just to see how playable it is. I'll even use my 13 year old MS joystick.
Anodizer you have to have a really freakin old box to get hardware lag. Look at the AH hardware requirements. Either an old box o crap or a malware ladden one.
''That's unfortunate for him but it would have been nice & reasonable to stop playing under such circumstances until you have your problem resolved instead of just shrugging.''
You make it sound like he( i ) couldnt be bothered , and as for solving my problem what do you propose ? perhaps i should take over omantel and upgrade the service or perhaps i could just quit my job and move to a place with better telecoms !!
Some people will have no choice as to who the provider they choose is , and if im willing to pay my $15 i will play , if the lagg gets bad i will logg off the game , lagg makes it unplayable from my end also .Unless Hitech tell me to go away because of lagg then tough .... that might sound harsh but there it is ,besides there a far worse things in game than a few people with internet problems .
Guido77 is by far the warpyest player Iv ever seen in AH. Not once have I seen him when he isn't warping. From 6k to 200ft he warps just as bad. I seen him many times warp from someones gunsight to their six and shot them. People with these connections should be booted no matter the excuse.
Guido77 also can't hit squat from all of his warping. Honestly, if Guido77 didn't warp I would be very worried since that would be one of the seven signs of the Apocolypse.
ack-ack
If your ping is STEADY, it doesnt matter what it is--I've been doing dialup for 13 years, and know which brand of modem works best, and which phone number works best, am always around 180-200 ping, assuming no browsing windows are open. Alas, Americas Army, (or any 1st person shooter) is out of the question, as they demand heap more bandwidth)
Simply put, BS... :)
Also, if you want to make this a discussion of "experience", I've been working in one aspect of computers or another
well before the word "Pentium" was even envisioned before I finally switched careers a couple years ago..
By the way, 15-25 FPS is unplayable (in my book).. There is no point in playing at all.. Especially a flight sim where smoothness in graphics is everything..
When ever I fight him it seems he has no trouble at all getting hits on me but when I someone get on his six he warps all over the place. Only time I can get a hit on him is by spraying or Hoing him.
Dialup + AH is fine.
I have ~ 22 years experience in IT. Starting on CPM through to DOS6.22 through to all these lovely flavours of Windows and a few other OS's through. For the last 10 years I've specialised in networking (and network security), I'm trained and have qualifications from the likes of Cisco, Juniper, 3Com, Secure Computing, Allied Telesis, Allot, Sonicwall and a few others I forget.
Trafficwise AH uses ~20kbps, dialup bandwidth is more than enough to handle it. Dialup latency is sometimes better than some peoples cable and DSL connections. Dialup is a non-contending media as well, so some of the hassled of contending media like cable aren't there.
So as I said, dialup + AH is fine.
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Guido77 is by far the warpyest player Iv ever seen in AH. Not once have I seen him when he isn't warping. From 6k to 200ft he warps just as bad. I seen him many times warp from someones gunsight to their six and shot them. People with these connections should be booted no matter the excuse.
Guido's problem is connection. For those of you who have experienced warping then you know it's just as bad for you as it is for them.
In defense of honest dial-up players, I'm another one that was on dial-up for about 12 years. I always made sure I had a clean system and a steady connection. It was just within the last year that they finally strung DSL out to this part of sugar-beet & onion country. We couldn't afford satellite (and didn't want it for games anyway), so we just bided our time until Malheur Bell finally got off thier collective butt. Bj, I hope it gets better for ya'. :)Sob's ran cable to within 3/4 mile of my house...strange telephone pole configuration between there and here prevents further cable :cry
I have no idea how to fix it=/
He once warped right from my gun sight and right on my tail and took off half my wing before warping back in front of me. I was lucky enough to have enough speed to run away and land. Iv also had time where he took out my oil and got hits on me in his warpy madness. When ever I fight him it seems he has no trouble at all getting hits on me but when I someone get on his six he warps all over the place. Only time I can get a hit on him is by spraying or Hoing him.
:lol I was behind his lancs one day and he warped backwards into me and killed me. I think most of the time it's background programs running while their logged It really affects my framerate . I try and now turn off everything when I log on. I can't tell you how many times my email screen popped up right in the middle of a fight to tell me I had a new email. :furious
Guido's problem is connection. For those of you who have experienced warping then you know it's just as bad for you as it is for them.
Does this mean that you think it's even steven? In a given night, a warper might seriously piss off 100 different people while being frustrated himself? So by quitting, the warper might be upset since he can no longer fly the skies of AH like the USS Enterprise, but will save 100 people he comes in contact with a lot of frustration. So lets do the math... 1 Pissed off Habitual Warper, 100 Content Pilots. Do us a favor and quit (X3X< Guido) until you can actually play the game properly.
X3X .................... I have always been polite when letting him or her know that they warping really bad. Response was testy at best....
guido flys MW. there's never more than 40 or 50 pile its in there at a time.
there is no more reason for him to quit than there is for people to stop trying to re-do the scoreing system. :noid
Well I guess if he flies by himself in MW it's okay I suppose...
You keep making references to my scoring thread...haha, yeah the scoring system still sucks CAP1. :noid
From the receiving end of a crappy connection:
I have a bad connection, though it is smooth most of the time. My pings range from 700 up to 1400 in game play. I usually average some 50 dicoes per month due to lost packets, communications black outs, or loss of power. The real killer part of having this much lag is getting shot down by a plane that is three seconds past you. I have seen planes pull off for no reason only to find out in a couple seconds I have been shot down. It is pretty aggravating being on the receiving end of this. If this were not my only escape, I would not play. As I have said before, if I warp, ask me to relog and I will.
My 2 cents
...check the cable between the Satellite and Modem. ...We had over 250ft of wire when max is to be about 100.
larry,
when next you;re on, switch sides, and fly with him. he warps almost constantly, and cannot control it. i've mentioned it to him several times, as i fly with him. he's not happy about it at all, but he does as best as he can.
Cap...
I've flown with and against Guido. He isn't a "bad guy". However, he has the ultimate control over the warp situation....he can chose not to disrupt the game for other players. By continuing to play with a poor connection, he is simply telling the rest of the players that he doesn't care if he disrupts their gaming experience...he wants to play so they can get screwed.
so you rear-ended him"? whelp, that's your fault for following too close. :noid
Do us all a favor and remove your tong from down Guido's throat or whatever orifice it's in. "IT"S MY FAULT FOR FOLLOWING HIM TOO CLOSE". :furious I was 1500 behind him when this happened. I can't tell you how many times I ve heard your fearless leader Alpha81 comment on the fact that someone had a mini warp outta his gunsight which caused him to miss the kill requesting that that player immediately re log. The fact of the matter is Guido ( be it a nice guy) warps like a mother and it pisses some people off. The dude makes me :rolleyes: when I try and kill him .Cap I sure hope you busting stones here and aren't serious about what you said cause I will let Lazy outta his cage and you know he is not very nice to you. :cry:rofl :rofl :rofl
Here we goooooooooooooooooo pssst BP, lazy was being nice to CAP in another thread, what are you feeding him these days?
I know, It's kinda like that scene from the road warrior where Humongous (me) has the Wez (lazy) chained up because he has been bad and when the road warrior (cap) pisses off Humongous (me) he releases the Wez (lazy) and the Wez (lazy) goes crazy on the road warrior (cap) which make Humongous (me) very happy.
Lazy has been nice for our sake but he's like a loaded gun waiting for his owner to take him out on a bank heist or better yet it's like keeping lazy from having a smoke for a whole 15 minutes. He's ready to blow ! :rofl
You have a satellite hovering 250' above your house? And it's only supposed to be 100'? Sounds expensive.
Imagine all those cables going to satellites. ;)
yayayayaya,,,,,,,,,
i couldn't have anything to do with the fact that i don't ever really do anything to give anyuone a real reason to act like a tard towards me, now could it?
:D :O
The game should not allow those that have a ping time of over 1000ms from logging on. With a ping rate of 1000ms, that is one full second of lag they will experience.
ack-ack
The game should not allow those that have a ping time of over 1000ms from logging on. With a ping rate of 1000ms, that is one full second of lag they will experience.
ack-ack
Hows 40-60?
Hows 40-60?
I have a steady 20ms connection to the arenas but that still doesn't mean I won't suffer any sort of warping due to packet loss.And there it is.... Packet loss. Running on dial up with every chat/fileshare/spyware running in the background isn't going to help.
ack-ack
i have asked this in another thread and never received a response so ill ask again.So instead of say an overall 250 ms delay. Not an at all unreasonable time. You would lower us all to the lowest common denominator? Say the lowest has 1500 delay added to your now imposed 1500 delay... 3000 ms delay. You would have a plane dive past you, you get up get a drink, sit down then you blow up. I know its a bit exaggerated but an artificial imposed 3 second round trip is out of the question.
is there a way to delay the packets being sent to those with a faster connection to be more equal to those with a slower connect? maybe find an average ping rate of those with the slowest times in the arena and balance out the rate so that one player wasn't moving through time and space at a second or two ahead of the slower player?
FLOTSOM
i have asked this in another thread and never received a response so ill ask again.
is there a way to delay the packets being sent to those with a faster connection to be more equal to those with a slower connect? maybe find an average ping rate of those with the slowest times in the arena and balance out the rate so that one player wasn't moving through time and space at a second or two ahead of the slower player?
FLOTSOM
:rofl :rofl :rofl :uhoh
better yet it's like keeping lazy from having a smoke for a whole 15 minutes. He's ready to blow ! :rofl
:rofl :rofl I miss Lips
You just seem to bring out the best in him, Lips is a close second. :lol
So instead of say an overall 250 ms delay. Not an at all unreasonable time. You would lower us all to the lowest common denominator? Say the lowest has 1500 delay added to your now imposed 1500 delay... 3000 ms delay. You would have a plane dive past you, you get up get a drink, sit down then you blow up. I know its a bit exaggerated but an artificial imposed 3 second round trip is out of the question.
What needs to happen is somehow drop players with excessive packet loss. The packet loss causes the warp not ping time.
That would mean that everyone would be warping.
First, you have to understand what warping is. Warping is caused by the games inablility to accurately infer aircraft vectors over large time intervals.
By delaying the packets you increase the amount of time the game would have to make this inference. So when the game does receive its next packet and refreshes the infered vector with the true vector its going to be off by a larger margin, giving a large warp.
Kostic
Quoting Lusche from an earlier thread
Internet related warping is caused by a bad quality connection. This is not indicated by ping time. If your connection is steady & stable it doesn't matter if you have a ping of 50, 150 (like me) or 250ms, you won't warp.
so are you saying Lusche doesnt know what he is talking about?
FLOTSOM
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,221134.0.html)
The smoothing code makes it so all you really need is a stable connection. It "fills in" the time between packets to make things move smoothly. That's why folks with a dial-up connection can still be completive with the broadband weenies.
i was unaware of this, thanx for the info.
question, can they improve it or is as good as its gonna get?
FLOTSOM
From the receiving end of a crappy connection:
I have a bad connection, though it is smooth most of the time. My pings range from 700 up to 1400 in game play. I usually average some 50 dicoes per month due to lost packets, communications black outs, or loss of power.