players with crap connections

[toonces3]

This is an online only game.  Connection is everything.

If you can't maintain a stable connection, you shouldn't be able to play.

AH2 should implement a similar system to Call of Duty 4.  The game monitors your ping (or something like that).  If you don't remain within acceptable limits, you get dropped from the game.

Simple, simple, simple solution to this continuing problem.

[bcadoo]

I think that if there was an asterisk next to their icon to indicate a poor connection then at least you'd know who to avoid. (and if their icon range was doubled so you could see the asterisk twice as far away)

[Grits]

I'd like to have HT put an asterisk next to guys that are jerks too...wait...nevermind.

[Anodizer]

I could care less if you believe me. My 15 years of experience speaks for itself. I've been doing this since about 1993,  I figure by now I'm pretty damned qualified.

I'm not justifying anything, if you were paying attention, you'd see that. All I am saying is that the game can and has been played with a lot less than what you think is possible.

I'm not being frugal at all, my current rig was almost $1K in parts alone, and quite capable.

Simply put, BS... 
Also, if you want to make this a discussion of "experience", I've been working in one aspect of computers or another
well before the word "Pentium" was even envisioned before I finally switched careers a couple years ago..


If you don't care what I believe, why respond and then proclaim 15 years of experience?  What has that to do with anything?
Big sweet deal.  I know guys who've been doing this for 20 years and still don't know anything..  15 years experience in no way speaks for itself and is subjective
to what ever you've done for those 15 years..  Sounds like all you've done is built systems more or less...  That by no means makes you
any kind of authority..


Also, I wouldn't call frame rates of 10 or below "playing" the game....

One last thing, no need for the bold lettering..  I can read just fine without it.. 
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[Wingnutt]

I understand warping, and dont immediately hate those whom I see warping..the only time it gets under my skin is when someone is warping so bad I cant even follow them visually (and i use track IR!) let alone shoot them.. but yet they seem to be having no problem pulling shots on other people or me.

one instance that really sticks out, and I think it was Guidy77 or whatever.  I was in a 38, he was in a spit, I dove towards him, he turned at me.. he was jigging around a bit but not warping super bad.   I knew he was slow and I had all the E in the world... so I pull vertical, when im nose straight up I see him pass under me continuing straight but firing.. then suddenly BAM BAM BAM 1 engine smoking and missing a flap.... apparently his connection is so bad, that on his end i never pulled up like I did, and he was able to do a HO shot..  On my end he never even came near me, but the S$!t connection gets the final say I guess.



I roll back over and.. forget it.. hes warping from 2.0 in front, to 3.0 to my 4 Oclock, then vanishing all together (underground?) then popping back up right above me..

I just floored it and went home, there was no sense in even attempting to try and fight him.    

so in summary due to his horrid connection, it was quite literally impossible to in any way engage him, but yet he could still land hits at will..

ITS NOT FAIR!!

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Simply put, BS... 
If you don't care what I believe, why respond? 

I wouldn't call frame rates of 10 or below "playing" the game....

Those of us who've been doing this for years know the smell of BS, and you're permeated with it. The ONLY reason I responded is because your BS might be interpreted as facts by someone who hasn't done this long enough to know better.

[Anodizer]

Those of us who've been doing this for years know the smell of BS, and you're permeated with it. The ONLY reason I responded is because your BS might be interpreted as facts by someone who hasn't done this long enough to know better.

Facts are facts..  Dare I post the technical data and numbers to prove it?
Frame rates of 10 or below are not considered playing the game...  Not by any means...

You really want to make this a knowledge war, friend? 

What BS have I said here?  None...  Only true facts based on experimentation and observation.. 

You're starting to sound like Krusty..

[bj229r]

I can certainly understand poor connection, but in 13-odd years I've never seen anyone state that having a crappy pc affects anyone but the poor sap with said crappy pc? If you have frame of low teens you are either bombers or gv...but at least you can still (somewhat) play

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

Facts are facts..  Dare I post the technical data and numbers to prove it?
Frame rates of 10 or below are not considered playing the game...  Not by any means...

You really want to make this a knowledge war, friend? 

What BS have I said here?  None...  Only true facts based on experimentation and observation.. 

You're starting to sound like Krusty..

I'm not your friend. I never said normal frame rates under 10 FPS, I said scenarios. Like I said, I've been doing this for about 15 years.

Further, what technical data do you have on a system I owned over 3 years ago and have long since pieced out and given away? NONE. Simple isn't it? You are questioning something you have zero personal knowledge of. So you have no facts based on experimentation and observation on a system you never owned. Good luck on posting those facts you do not have.

[grizz441]

I'm not your friend. I never said normal frame rates under 10 FPS, I said scenarios. Like I said, I've been doing this for about 15 years.

Further, what technical data do you have on a system I owned over 3 years ago and have long since pieced out and given away? NONE. Simple isn't it? You are questioning something you have zero personal knowledge of. So you have no facts based on experimentation and observation on a system you never owned. Good luck on posting those facts you do not have.

When fellow S.A.P.P P38 Pilots Fight.

[Anodizer]

I'm not your friend. I never said normal frame rates under 10 FPS, I said scenarios. Like I said, I've been doing this for about 15 years.

Further, what technical data do you have on a system I owned over 3 years ago and have long since pieced out and given away? NONE. Simple isn't it? You are questioning something you have zero personal knowledge of. So you have no facts based on experimentation and observation on a system you never owned. Good luck on posting those facts you do not have.

Well, I'm not going to be all insulting and say that I posted specifications of a system in this particular thread that was more capable than what you say you ran AHII on and it barely did the job.
But, I did, in fact, post those specs.  


I guess what it comes down to on what one sees as playability..  For you, your K6III may have been fine for you...  Why?  I have no clue..  Maybe you didn't see what this game looked or ran like on better systems..  Maybe you just didn't care..  Maybe you had budget restraints..  Don't know...  
For me, I do not consider something playable under what most would consider a horrible frame rate..  I would just as soon not play due to the disappointment factor..
And I can't justify paying a measly 15 bucks to play something that looks and runs like hell..  But that's just me...

Also, the capability of one's system will also have issues with latency(I think that's where all this started)..  I'm talking stuff like very early Pentium 4's and below.. And when there is a shortage of RAM as well, latency will be even worse..  All that NETWORKING,graphics, physics, etc takes resources..  Have something less than capable, lag will happen..  

[Captain Virgil Hilts]

It was able to go up to 60FPS in clear skies, with under 5 planes in sight. A normal furball with a dozen or so planes was about 30FPS. Couldn't fly a scenario, 30 planes created a slide show. I fly for the fights, not the eye candy. If I wanted eye candy I'd fly a different game. I have a real life and a business, other things needed money, and I could easily fly most times I wanted to. I kept up with the game to my own satisfaction. I could fly, and I could fight, I wasn't interested in the scenery.

Your computer doesn't effect latency. I suggest you do a search. What is sent over the Internet is so small most any computer can handle it. Ask Skuzzy. Or maybe you're smarter than he is and have more experience than he does too.

[The Fury]

I agree totaly its unfair and kinda gives the warper a advantage when it comes to dogfighting, fair enough the warper is probebly seeing everything on his screen warp so it would be difficult for him to get a shot aswell but at the end of the day i think its kinda lame and the "sorry my connection sucks" answer is getting very very old GET A NEW CONNECTION its not like its 100`s of pounds/dollers for a new one and until then dont play as your ruining others fun.

Many of times i have been in a big furball with squaddies working really well together and no doubt here comes a warper thats when the fun ends, i usually dont fight them warpers but sometimes i go for them just to tell them they have a turd connection after i keeeel them.

To be honest i dont know how the heck anyone could find it fun to warp like a trekkie everytime they play that alone would have made me stop flying.

 

Oh yeah and a crappy computer doesnt make you warp i have just recently upgraded my pc and on both systems i havent warped at all. and trust me the old pc was really bad 1.3 gig processor 512mb ram think it was a nvidia 5200 gfx card too lol not one warp all smooth as a rock.

[expat]

Lol ''get a new connection '' 
I have 2 choices and they are both controlled by one of them (omantel)....and it's only been since this march that i had a second choice (nawras).
It might be getting old to you , but to some there is no other choice !

[Lusche]

Lol ''get a new connection '' 
I have 2 choices and they are both controlled by one of them (omantel)....and it's only been since this march that i had a second choice (nawras).
It might be getting old to you , but to some there is no other choice !

Sorry, but there is.

Not playing.

Sounds harsh, but if someone isn't occasionally warping but each and every time, he is ruining the fun for everyone around him.

I remember one particular player in EW and MW that was constantly warping day in and day out. He could pork fields and take down towns with impunity because for him the ground and the objects aren't warping at all. It was almost impossible to attack him and to shoot him down because of all his warping, and even worse - you were in danger of dying from a warp-collision every time you tried. With only a few payers on and all fighting over one base it was impossible to just ignore him, especially if you are desperately trying to defend that base.

His standard answer was "I can't do anything about it" too.

That's unfortunate for him but it would have been nice & reasonable to stop playing under such circumstances until you have your problem resolved instead of just shrugging.


BTW, depending on source of warpiness it can indeed happen that you may warp to everybody else but are not seeing the same. Happened to me a short while ago, all seemed smooth on my end until several payers asked me to relog.