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Help and Support Forums => Help and Training => Topic started by: bmwgs on December 03, 2008, 11:56:01 PM
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Well, after a year, and flying just about every plane in the inventory, I think I have found the plane I like. Even though I have flown it a bit over the last year, for some reason last tour some things just seem to fall into place in my ACM and SA and now everthing seems to be coming together.
I don't see folks flying the LA 5 much, so I would like some suggestions on the proper way (tactics) to use when flying it. For some reasons, I seem to be racking up some kills in it this tour, and one thing I have learned is to keep it fast.
I am especially looking for advise on when and when not to use flaps, but any suggestions would be welcomed.
Thanks,
Fred, a future LA 5 DWEEB
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go bug shane in the DA he knows lalas like the back of his hand.
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go bug shane in the DA he knows lalas like the back of his hand.
I don't think Shane will keep it fast though :lol He stall fights really well in one. He almost spanked my hurricane in a few stall fights one morning. :rolleyes:
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Don't use flaps except for landing. :)
If you get in trouble put your nose down, accelerate away, then immelman back up & over and back into the fight.
Spit 8 and 16's are probably the toughest to deal with. La5 will hang with most spitxteen's if you start out with a position of advantage. Love to slip in behind one, watch him flopping, twisting turning all over the sky to end up on the deck with an la5 200 behind it cutting it to shreds.
Spit 8's, well I mostly try to stay away from them.
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Actually I've flown La5s quite a bit the past two years and I do use flaps in the event that the fight gets that slow.
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All I know about them is that if you get too slow an f6 will out turn them. Any decent E and they can out turn an f6.
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Actually I've flown La5s quite a bit the past two years and I do use flaps in the event that the fight gets that slow.
I just started flying the La5 last week and I agree. Along with flaps, knowing when to cut and increase throttle can be the difference between a face plant, and a kill in a stall fight on the deck.
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Nice plane but I don't like the guns. It's one of the few planes I pull my convergence in to 400 in (from my usual 650). That change made all the difference for me in actually being able to hit something vs. not.
Also, like the 109's you have to get used to those wing slats popping in and out and potentially disrupting a shot. They don't seem to be a problem for me in the 109's the way they are in the La's but that just might be a mental thing.
Love the re-worked graphics.
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I think the LA5 is a great plane, when i fly it I will use flaps to fight with IF NEEDED, then again I only use flaps in any plane I Fly when needed, its not as fast as the LA7, but i believe it turns tighter?
and its a good plane to rack up perks!!
it does stall fight good, if you know how to stall fight.
it seems like what ever it cant out turn, it can out run and vice versa.
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Actually I've flown La5s quite a bit the past two years and I do use flaps in the event that the fight gets that slow.
HOW do you fight against them in the 38? assuming almost equal e, or the 38 a bit slower?
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HOW do you fight against them in the 38? assuming almost equal e, or the 38 a bit slower?
it can be a tossup depending on the respective drivers.
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it can be a tossup depending on the respective drivers.
well.....me in the 38.......and i still am learnign it...
i was referencing possibly when you're egressing form a fight, and an la starts the chase. i at first was thinking to bravely run away, till i saw him gaining on me. we were on the deck, and i probably waited too long to turn into him......but i couldn't get myself an advantage, or gain any slack to gain further seperation from him. i also don't see em too much in mw, which makes me more clueless than i already im.
thank ya sir!
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fight them like a 109g2/g.. these would be the most comparable in MW.
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HOW do you fight against them in the 38? assuming almost equal e, or the 38 a bit slower?
Same you way you fight every other buff.
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Same you way you fight every other buff.
an la5 isn't a buff? i'm trying to learn how to fight AGAINST the lala in a 38. :D
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an la5 isn't a buff? i'm trying to learn how to fight AGAINST the lala in a 38. :D
Oups, my bad. Get in tail gunner position and shoot him then
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I'd have to agree with Shane, LA-5 and 109G2 are a pretty good match. either plane very deadly in the right hands. Both can stall fight well, with a good pilot. The scenario of a p-38 stuck low on the deck with a La-5 closing, isn't a good place for the 38. I would think the best defense in that case would be trying to get the LA to overshoot (it's obviously going faster then the 38 in this scenario), and get the shot as he passes. A good defensive roll possibly to bleed off your speed, get out of his line of fire (or at least make a hard shot), and roll back on his 6 as he goes by. Catch me in the TA sometime and we can try some different options to see what works for you, I used to fly the LA-5 a bit, but flew the G2 a lot.
:salute
BigRat
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Oups, my bad. Get in tail gunner position and shoot him then
lololol
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Another thing of note on the LA-5 is that it's acceleration is beat only by the La7 and BF109G10 at sea level(not counting perk aircraft). This means do not get low & slow then decide you want to break away. It will run down most aircraft quickly.
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Another thing of note on the LA-5 is that it's acceleration is beat only by the La7 and BF109G10 at sea level
And the Spit VIII, Spit XIV, and SpitXVI with the Ki-84 about equal.
Acceleration is important, but it can't overcome someone 500 yards off your six.
I've flown duels with the 109G-2 vs the La-7 (a top tier La-7 driver). If you know the secret, the 109G-2 is the La-7's equal in a low speed fight. The secret? If I told ya, it wouldn't be a secret, would it?
My regards,
Widewing
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I had not thought about what might be considered more or less equal planes in acceleration. I was thinking more of a slow 38 and using my LA5's acceleration to get an advantageous position on my opponent. My thinking is that quick acceleration = building E. So if the LA5 is building up E more quickly than the 38, then I should have more options available to me than the 38 pilot. Could you please give more input on this aspect Widewing? Thank you for the information and your time. Always learning in this community!
PS-As far as your secret, this is the help & training board. So I have to ask you, how can a 109G-2 be the La-7's equal in a low speed fight?
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PS-As far as your secret, this is the help & training board. So I have to ask you, how can a 109G-2 be the La-7's equal in a low speed fight?
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It can't. WWs style or aproach to fight probably beat the other pilot or the or other guy made a mistake
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And the Spit VIII, Spit XIV, and SpitXVI with the Ki-84 about equal.
Acceleration is important, but it can't overcome someone 500 yards off your six.
Widewing
It can't? :huh
Fly 500 yards in front of me. Rock your wings slightly. There you go, I'll never hit you, and run out of ammo trying. :(
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It can't. WWs style or aproach to fight probably beat the other pilot or the or other guy made a mistake
Against one of the very best sticks in this game, I dueled La-7 vs 109G-2. This was shortly after the 109s were redone both graphically and the flight model. We fought till out of gas. Net result... Dead even. The reason I was able to maintain equilibrium was I flat-out refused to turn right. In a left hand turn, at the limit, the La-7 has a minuscule turn radius advantage. However, as the 109 is more forgiving at the limit, it more than makes up for that.
Acceleration is close enough not to be a factor. Ditto for climb. Both have 10 minutes of WEP. Where the La-7 is better (and IMHO, it should not be) is rolling against torque. In a 109, dirtied up with flaps out you must pull off power to roll right. That is not a good idea as you cannot recover that lost energy readily. Thus, I would never reverse to the right. It does, however, roll very quickly to the left.
We did a similar exercise with the Spit14 and La-7. Again, dead even. That is until the Spit ran out of WEP. Then the advantage slowly shifted until La-7 was finally able to get in a snap shot. Countering the La-7's smaller turn radius was the Spit's better vertical performance, at least as long as it made emergency power.
The other evening, Batfink and I flew a series of duels with my Boston vs his Mossy. Again, very much an even-up fight. The Boston is better at very low speed with a much tighter turn radius (gaining about 45 degrees per full turn), but the Mossy has the edge in power and climb, providing options in the vertical.
I enjoy dissimilar aircraft duels. It allows the pilots to explore advantages while trying to avoid disadvantages. Those variables present differing problems that add to the dueling fun... IMHO.
My regards,
Widewing