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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Lt. Pope on December 05, 2008, 06:46:41 PM
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:furious It's just that... I don't see any French vehicles! (if there is, just tell me)
I Suggest atleast a simple French made vehicle, like... the B1 bis or the Panhard 178
or (my favorite) the Laffly W-15 TCC .
(If people say that this topic exists, the reason i'm doing this is because the same topic (made by me)
was locked, and skuzzy, i promise i will keep this on-topic)
Make it happen, I'ts a hole :rock
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It isn't just the French tanks, but rather any early war tank that the game is missing. It would be nice to see a French entry along side, say, a German PzkwIII.
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i'll make my same joke as i did the last french vehicle post
how are you supposed to kill other gv's if the gun only shoots white flags?
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French tanks have a superior reverse speed than the other tanks in the game. Perk them!
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i'll make my same joke as i did the last french vehicle post
how are you supposed to kill other gv's if the gun only shoots white flags?
[OFF-TOPIC]Argh...usually I'd jump on anyone who said something like this....meh I CBA.
lol @ your joke by the way, even if I do disagree with it in terms of what actually happened during the war.[/OFF-TOPIC]
Back on topic, it would be very nice to see EW tanks, French ones included.
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[OFF-TOPIC]Argh...usually I'd jump on anyone who said something like this....meh I CBA.
lol @ your joke by the way, even if I do disagree with it in terms of what actually happened during the war.[/OFF-TOPIC]
Back on topic, it would be very nice to see EW tanks, French ones included.
no dont worry i did my homework the last time someone posted this, i'd like to see them added, i just cant help myself :devil
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the french had the best tanks at the begining of the war but they didnt imploy good tactics and they had the problem as said
how are you supposed to kill other gv's if the gun only shoots white flags?
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French tanks have a superior reverse speed than the other tanks in the game. Perk them!
I don't care who ya are! That there is durn funny!!
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The CHAR would be a welcome addition.
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i'll make my same joke as i did the last french vehicle post
how are you supposed to kill other gv's if the gun only shoots white flags?
I guess thats why the last thread got locked.
The joke is getting old.
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the french had the best tanks at the begining of the war but they didnt imploy good tactics and they had the problem as said
To some extent that is true. They also had some liabilities like one man turrets and some were very slow like the previously mentioned Char. They did, however have exceptional armor protection and a few had competitive guns. Personally a tank like a S35 which is better armored than a similar time framed Panzer, better gunned than a similarly time framed Panzer, and just as fast would be a good EW addition.
Tactics, yeah that was a serious problem for the french. Much more serious than the quality of the gear.
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people who won WWI were in charge, tactics from another age.
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I guess thats why the last thread got locked.
The joke is getting old.
Especially when the guy that posted those comments is so ignorant that he doesn't realize that without the French there wouldn't be a U.S.
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Especially when the guy that posted those comments is so ignorant that he doesn't realize that without the French there wouldn't be a U.S.
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ok didnt read the part where i said i'd like them to be added... I'm far from ignorant so lighten up a little bit, jeez
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screw the vehicles what about some French aircraft :aok.
I can think of 2 good additions.
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The French lost because of their govt, not their military. It was actually quite capable and it had the means to fend off the German invasion.
It is too bad their govt wouldnt back them up and listen to their military leaders. Hence, by the time the French govt decided to try and help the BEF and Belgium it was all over for everyone on the mainland.
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Plus French vehicles move in reverse faster than any other gvs do.....
sorry, couldn't resist.
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i'll make my same joke as i did the last french vehicle post
how are you supposed to kill other gv's if the gun only shoots white flags?
erm...well us French people tan easy :huh :eek:
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Especially when the guy that posted those comments is so ignorant that he doesn't realize that without the French there wouldn't be a U.S.
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They did help us, but at the time I don't think any part of their strategy had to deal with favors coming around over a hundred years later to save their entire nation, twice. At the time, we were their enemie's enemy (England), willing to do the hard and dirty work they wanted done (fighting the English), we were a very cheap resource to the French nation's own agenda. To think that the French were there during our revolution for anything more than their own nation's agenda, that they were there solely for the sake of a fledgling nation's health, independence and freedom, is ignorant.
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The French lost because of their govt, not their military. It was actually quite capable and it had the means to fend off the German invasion.
It is too bad their govt wouldnt back them up and listen to their military leaders. Hence, by the time the French govt decided to try and help the BEF and Belgium it was all over for everyone on the mainland.
Inaccurate representation of the facts. Plan Dyle (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dyle_Plan) was all about linking up with the Belgian and Dutch military so that the war would not be fought on French soil. Their government fully backed the plan, which was drawn up by Gamelin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurice_Gamelin), who was considered their premier General.
Here is a good article regarding the Anglo-French plans to stop the Germans. (http://www.historynet.com/world-war-ii-stopping-field-marshal-erich-von-mansteins-panzers.htm)
Their failure was primarily in assuming the Ardennes was natural barrier sufficient to deter a German attack. This mistake was inexplicably repeated by the Allies in the winter of '44, resulting in the Battle of the Bulge.
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They did help us, but at the time I don't think any part of their strategy had to deal with favors coming around over a hundred years later to save their entire nation, twice. At the time, we were their enemie's enemy (England), willing to do the hard and dirty work they wanted done (fighting the English), we were a very cheap resource to the French nation's own agenda. To think that the French were there during our revolution for anything more than their own nation's agenda, that they were there solely for the sake of a fledgling nation's health, independence and freedom, is ignorant.
Whatever their reasons were, without their aid there would not be a United States. There is no disputing that point.
If you look at the history of WWI, we didn't "save" the French, they did that on their own during the Battle of Marne when they stopped the Germans on the River Marne and saved Paris. All the US did with our contribution was help to shorten the war. Germany was pretty much on the ropes by the time we entered, Austria-Hungary Empire had collapsed and Germany was experiencing a civil unrest that bordered on a civil war and in some cases, open revolt.
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:furious It's just that... I don't see any French vehicles!
French Vehicles??...give'em 10 minutes and wouldn't they be German vehicles anyway?
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Whatever their reasons were, without their aid there would not be a United States. There is no disputing that point.
If you look at the history of WWI, we didn't "save" the French, they did that on their own during the Battle of Marne when they stopped the Germans on the River Marne and saved Paris. All the US did with our contribution was help to shorten the war. Germany was pretty much on the ropes by the time we entered, Austria-Hungary Empire had collapsed and Germany was experiencing a civil unrest that bordered on a civil war and in some cases, open revolt.
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I see the light !!!
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Char would be useful as an assault gun for a town.
But it is S L O W.............
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One of my first posts here was about the need for French, Italian, Russian planes of various types (and Swordfish). I listed these nationalities in order of priority. The MOST OBVIOUS choice would be the Dewoitine 520. Not only was it used by French forces but the Germans used it in significant numbers (more than TA-152, or C-205). I doubt this would be a hangar queen. It might serve like the Hurri II, or P-40E---that is to say, seen in the LW arena some. I could go on and on about the Morane Saulnier 406 (by far France's most numerous AC at the outset), the Hawk 75-A (by far the most effective for French and Finns alike), and the Potez 631 (looks so much like a 110 both sides confused), but the D-520 seems a no brainer. BTW---the Yak-3 would fit LW "unfortunate reality" of AH while providing a ride used by Normandie-Nieman. It was a much better plane than the 9-U. Good skin art opportunities for D-520---Axis and Allied. OH---you skins guys---how about some Free French Spits, Tempests, and B-26s---if you get bored.
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I think the french B26's are post war stuff.
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Possibly correct on post war---I just derived that from a list of French squadrons in French Fighter Aces of WWII [Osprey] wherein the B-26 is listed as the plane for almost all of the bomber groups---let me check on it. That should not be a problem--I mean we have the B-26 in the game why would a skin modification be unusual? Its not like there aren't anomalies as is---the Ta-152, F4U-4, and the (1 vehicle in 4, British Units only) Sherman as representing Sherman's generally (yes it was a good "play balance decision).
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Anomalies?
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Yes, the Hotchkiss, Somua, and Char B, would be sweet
additions to the EW.. But as long as the T34 is there, they
would be relegated to Joke status, or as waste of time and development...
It is my understanding, that EW consists of the yrs 39, 40, and 41...
(feel free to correct).. That being the case, the T34 was only encountered
in 41, and in quite small numbers... Before that, it was UNKNOWN to the world..
Its Rarity should be reflected in the EW...
As far as WWI.. By 1917/18 the Brits, French, and Germans, were all completely
exhausted, militarily and financially... NONE of them had enough left to close escrow
on the war.. British Empire was bankrupt, and had borrowed the last pence that
anyone would loan them, and were scraping up the last men left of a lost generation..
The French were also Bankrupt, and their army was suffering rebellion and mutiny
in their frontline units.. Frenchmen were no longer willing to throw their lives away...
The Germans were in worse shape.. suffering the losses of the war, and the ravages
of starvation because of the blockade...
Large scale offensive ops had pretty much halted by that point...
And then came the FLU!!! to all sides!!! It was killing more ppl than bullets and shells...
The growing presence of fresh American troops is what caused the Germans to
finally agree to an end to the wasteful mess... Did the US have an effect, OH YEAH!!!
Its believed by epidemiologists that the spanish flu originated in Ft Riley Kansas..
From the burning of sick pig carcasses... Voila the world pandemic of 1918!!!
Just things to consider
RC
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Yes, in my opinion (nothing more just my silly opinion) there are anomalies in the plane/ vehicle set. "Anomaly," I believe, comes from the Greek "a-nomos." The privitive Greek "a" (like "a-gnositic {don't know} or "a-theist" {not theist}) is here combined with the Greek term for "law" (nomos). So it means that rules, or maxims of rational conduct are not being followed and the "anomalous" instances are the particulars that violate the rule or law. What law? Well, if it were my game (I know it isn't) I would prioritize the planes and vehicles that played the largest role in the actual conflict we are simulating. So, if you were constrained to limit the game to 10 planes total, the P-40E would be in and, the me-262 would be out. What are some anomalies? Well, how many combat kills did the Ta-152 have? I haven't looked it up. The only anecdote I know of is of Kurt tank running away from two ponies in a prototype. I do know the D-520 and the yak-3 had many more. I suspect the Swordfish had many more ship sinkings than the Ju-88. I imagine the "normal" Sherman played a larger role than the firefly which was simply 1 tank in 4 in British and Canadian units (Poles too, I guess). Please don't fasten on to any particular example as a way to refute my overall point (details hazy but point stands). Of course THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS AT PLAY, i.e., by choosing the firefly you give the Sherman a chance---so people may choose it.
So from my historical perspective (there are other equally valid perspectives) some odd choices have been made and some glaring omissions too.
Not a biggee just why I said "anomalies".
Too late, I have already been called a "blowhard'---pompous @** remains to be hurled.
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it would be nice to have all the Gv from different countrys that fought no matter how good or crappy they might have been
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Yes, in my opinion (nothing more just my silly opinion) there are anomalies in the plane/ vehicle set. "Anomaly," I believe, comes from the Greek "a-nomos." The privitive Greek "a" (like "a-gnositic {don't know} or "a-theist" {not theist}) is here combined with the Greek term for "law" (nomos). So it means that rules, or maxims of rational conduct are not being followed and the "anomalous" instances are the particulars that violate the rule or law. What law? Well, if it were my game (I know it isn't) I would prioritize the planes and vehicles that played the largest role in the actual conflict we are simulating. So, if you were constrained to limit the game to 10 planes total, the P-40E would be in and, the me-262 would be out. What are some anomalies? Well, how many combat kills did the Ta-152 have? I haven't looked it up. The only anecdote I know of is of Kurt tank running away from two ponies in a prototype. I do know the D-520 and the yak-3 had many more. I suspect the Swordfish had many more ship sinkings than the Ju-88. I imagine the "normal" Sherman played a larger role than the firefly which was simply 1 tank in 4 in British and Canadian units (Poles too, I guess). Please don't fasten on to any particular example as a way to refute my overall point (details hazy but point stands). Of course THERE ARE OTHER FACTORS AT PLAY, i.e., by choosing the firefly you give the Sherman a chance---so people may choose it.
So from my historical perspective (there are other equally valid perspectives) some odd choices have been made and some glaring omissions too.
Not a biggee just why I said "anomalies".
Too late, I have already been called a "blowhard'---pompous @** remains to be hurled.
Those "anomalies" dont have anomalous function or useage in the game.
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m00t, aren't you French?
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You wouldnt know it unless I admitted it.. and even then it's only because my passport says so. There's good chances I'm not setting foot over there for the rest of my life.. Zero regrets there. Naturalizing first chance I get.
And that would go in the avatar, if there was enough space.
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:D You're my favorite, former, French mate :)
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French Vehicles??...give'em 10 minutes and wouldn't they be German vehicles anyway?
Tee hee snicker snicker :aok
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I still like French fries. :noid
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And French Bread too!!! :aok
I still like French fries. :noid
But French vehicles...... Really?
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m00t, aren't you French?
(http://i164.photobucket.com/albums/u7/rattfink31/patomujer.gif)
LMAO...great pic Rat. :rofl :rofl :rofl
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The french had combat vehicles, let alone an army? :confused:
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I refer anyone who doubts the bravery of the French to study the Napoleonic wars and WWI. French military deaths in WWI were 1.4 million out of a total popu;ation of 40 million. I believe this death toll surpasses all US military deaths in all wars (our WWI population was 130 million). In WWII France suffered between 217,000 and 300,000 combattant deaths and 265,000 civilian ones---the US had 295,000 combattant deaths. So, even in that war the French made a greater proportional sacrifice than the US. May I remind you that France came to the aid of neutral Poland while we sat across the Atlantic and hid. Indeed, some isolationists were reluctant to declare war on Germany after Pearl harbor---thankfully the Germans declared first ending the debate. If you study the France 1940 campaign and the Resistance movement you might learn of great courage (along the Loire, at the very end, a suicidal offensive was launched pour l'honneur de France. To imply that the French are any less brave or militarily adept than the United States is simply to announce your own ignorance and predjudice. Thomas Jefferson said (I paraphrase from memory) "every civilized man has two countries---his own and France." France is a GREAT country with a great civilization and a proud history----any other imputation is simply a lie.
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In other words, they're anomalous.
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"crazy talk like that will get y'all banned!
now, have a chaw."
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I refer anyone who doubts the bravery of the French to study the Napoleonic wars and WWI. French military deaths in WWI were 1.4 million out of a total popu;ation of 40 million. I believe this death toll surpasses all US military deaths in all wars (our WWI population was 130 million). In WWII France suffered between 217,000 and 300,000 combattant deaths and 265,000 civilian ones---the US had 295,000 combattant deaths. So, even in that war the French made a greater proportional sacrifice than the US. May I remind you that France came to the aid of neutral Poland while we sat across the Atlantic and hid. Indeed, some isolationists were reluctant to declare war on Germany after Pearl harbor---thankfully the Germans declared first ending the debate. If you study the France 1940 campaign and the Resistance movement you might learn of great courage (along the Loire, at the very end, a suicidal offensive was launched pour l'honneur de France. To imply that the French are any less brave or militarily adept than the United States is simply to announce your own ignorance and predjudice. Thomas Jefferson said (I paraphrase from memory) "every civilized man has two countries---his own and France." France is a GREAT country with a great civilization and a proud history----any other imputation is simply a lie.
Légion d'honneur pour vous très cher!
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The CHAR would be a welcome addition.
hence the name Char, short for charbroiled. Soon to be at a Burger King near you. Much past 1940 the tank was totally outclassed. It had a one man turret, probally it's biggest short coming. I think a M-8 would tear this thing to pieces.
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The CHAR would be a welcome addition.
Yep, in a EW GV set it would be a nice addition, along with the EW German tanks I listed.
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NO :cryrip it never had a chance
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Well, I don't see the point. Those French tanks were just 5 mile per hour widow makers. A jeep could probobly do some serious damage to the tracks.
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Well, I don't see the point. Those French tanks were just 5 mile per hour widow makers. A jeep could probobly do some serious damage to the tracks.
Those 'French tanks' were equal or better than the Germans tanks that were used in the Battle of France.
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Guys, ya need to do a little research... French tanks were
(overall) superior in design to their german counterparts in 1940...
French tanks had up to Heavy 1 piece cast hull and turret armor..
German tanks had riveted or welded armor about 30mm thick..
French had Hi velocity 37, 47, and 75mm guns, Germans had 37mm
doorknocker or low velocity 75mm howitzer, (with no HEAT or HESH rds yet)..
Tank for tank, the French had a major advantage.. In numbers as well..
Unfortunately, the French also had generals who belonged in resthomes..
Or, were criminally senile... Or who were Facists sympathisers anyway, (Vichy)...
Therein lies the defeat of France.. (a cryin shame)
NOT because their tanks were inferior to the germans...
OR, because their troops didn't want to fight..
RC
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Those 'French tanks' were equal or better than the Germans tanks that were used in the Battle of France.
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actually in 1940 the Germans didn't have anything that could knock out the char B. I believe that was when Rommel first used 88 flackers against armor. If I remember correctly his position was about to be over run by French tanks when he directed the flack guns against the oncoming tanks.
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king tiger 102 mm thick armor
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king tiger 102 mm thick armor
German tanks of 1940, not late war German tanks.
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actually in 1940 the Germans didn't have anything that could knock out the char B.
IIRC the Char B1 had a soft spot on one of its sides (left?) in the form of an engine grill that was easily penetrated by AP, including the 37mm (but I admit that is being rather "technical").
I don't know if I would call the French tanks superior in "design" due to the one man turret configuration they used, but they were generally superior in armor protection, firepower, and overall numbers. But they were certainly not used to their abilities -- which is to say tactical rather than technical failings were more to blame for their ineffectiveness in stopping the Germans.
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there are acounts of the 37 only makeing the tanks ring and then they would deflect out normaly with no see able damage it basicly if they had to they went to the american tactick of swarming around the tanks because the french only deployed them to suport infantry
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No doubt about it, everyone would agree. The idea is great, but the fact that we don't have french aircraft, or any type of french vehicle; makes it completely pointless to make one french tank which will lead to a whole discussion (fight), in the wishlist about wanting unneeded french aircraft. Or any other french vehicle for the matter.
Thanks for posting.
-FYB
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French aircraft are just as needed (perhaps even more so) than French tanks.
A D520 or an MS406 would be nice :aok
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Fench Aircraft Bail As Resistance Members Armed With Butterfly Knifes Ready To Slash Some Tires! Viva le France! :rock
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French aircraft are just as needed (perhaps even more so) than French tanks.
A D520 or an MS406 would be nice :aok
If the aim is to flesh out the planeset for the EW arena, then you will also need to address the fact that there is a lack of EW vehicles for the EW arena.
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French aircraft are just as needed (perhaps even more so) than French tanks.
A D520 or an MS406 would be nice :aok
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Did you know that we don't need anything French on our arenas? Yet.
Like i said, its a great idea, but until we fix other problems such as bugs and wether to add subs, a Catalina, etc. We won't really need to add any French vehicles as a major concern just yet.
Lets leave that decision to the big guys. (DEFINITELY NOT ME, BUT THANK YOU)
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:rofl :rofl :rofl
Did you know that we don't need anything French on our arenas? Yet.
Like i said, its a great idea, but until we fix other problems such as bugs and wether to add subs, a Catalina, etc. We won't really need to add any French vehicles as a major concern just yet.
Lets leave that decision to the big guys. (DEFINITELY NOT ME, BUT THANK YOU)
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You're wrong. The EW planeset needs to be fleshed out just as the mid-war and late war planeset ups are. Right now, the lack of EW planes is a glaring hole in the planeset and whether you like it or not, French planes will go a long way to addressing the EW plane shortage. But then, I have a feeling that you're the type that only flies late war cannon equipped birds, to each his own I guess.
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panzer
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panzer
That's german you 'tard
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panzer
Panzer, huum... have you played the game? and seen that the word "panzer" means armor in GERMAN, and its also a GERMAN tank not a FRENCH tank???
And yes, i do like cannons and use planes with cannons...
-FYB
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You're wrong. The EW planeset needs to be fleshed out just as the mid-war and late war planeset ups are. Right now, the lack of EW planes is a glaring hole in the planeset and whether you like it or not, French planes will go a long way to addressing the EW plane shortage. But then, I have a feeling that you're the type that only flies late war cannon equipped birds, to each his own I guess.
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LOL I doubt that anyone would see you flying any of these French planes. You want them so you can get another easy kill. There are plenty of EW choices other than French planes.
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French tanks have a superior reverse speed than the other tanks in the game. Perk them!
That's funny :rofl
Come on.....there is nothing special about a French tank except it's reverse gear.....Let's see...German tanks, awesome engineering (mostly overengineered) PLUS the first to have comms within tanks...Russian Tanks, FIRST to introduce sloped armor.....American/Bristish tanks....SHERMAN, nuff said. I think you actually have to win a conflict to get a tank put on Aces High, which leaves the Frenchies out of it.
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French tanks have a superior reverse speed than the other tanks in the game. Perk them!
I thought that was all they had ... :noid
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May I remind you that France came to the aid of neutral Poland while we sat across the Atlantic and hid.
Yeah ... we were hiding ... :rofl
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Yeah ... we were hiding ... :rofl
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I don't see any Japanese tanks either. I will bet they were very limited.
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I don't see any Japanese tanks either. I will bet they were very limited.
Well, you're right in that I don't think there were many Japanese tanks in WWII, but the ones they did have would of been at even competition against a jeep with a giant poncho and a potato gun.
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LOL I doubt that anyone would see you flying any of these French planes. You want them so you can get another easy kill. There are plenty of EW choices other than French planes.
I`ll fly the D.520 And be the first to blast you from the sky with it
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Im A Fool Whom Makes Racist Remarks Without Any Care For My Fellow French Players
There Now Your Comment Make Sense
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I`ll fly the D.520 And be the first to blast you from the sky with it
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You fly, i'll shot you down?
The poor thing would be blasted out of the sky. you'd fly up to 10k max or else the engine might fail and then i'd drop with an F4U-1 and tear apart your tin can wings.
Sounds great! NO, we really dont need a soda can with little tin wings going 60mph max and only 10k high.
-FYB
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lol more guys whom never read a book
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You fly, i'll shot you down?
The poor thing would be blasted out of the sky. you'd fly up to 10k max or else the engine might fail and then i'd drop with an F4U-1 and tear apart your tin can wings.
Sounds great! NO, we really dont need a soda can with little tin wings going 60mph max and only 10k high.
-FYB
Ohhh -- feeling so confident in your mad skilz that you think you need a mid-to-late war airframe to fight an early war ride? :rofl :rolleyes: :rofl
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You fly, i'll shot you down?
The poor thing would be blasted out of the sky. you'd fly up to 10k max or else the engine might fail and then i'd drop with an F4U-1 and tear apart your tin can wings.
Sounds great! NO, we really dont need a soda can with little tin wings going 60mph max and only 10k high.
-FYB
I'll shoot you down in a Spit 1. "I'll take When Egos Flare" for $1000 Alex."
You also need to read more Cherry Picker. Service Ceiling was around 33,000ft, so I have no idea why you're hung up on 10k. 332mph for an aircraft developed in 1938 is "slow"? It also was one of the best armed fighter at the start of WWII.
In short, you should read more and post less drivel.
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Ohhh -- feeling so confident in your mad skilz that you think you need a mid-to-late war airframe to fight an early war ride? :rofl :rolleyes: :rofl
fine. F/A-18 hornet and maybe F-22 Raptor? this way its not even in early-mid or even late? :D
-FYB
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Lots of guys in here with nothing but "hear-say" when it comes to French tools of war.
France was quite capable at the onset of WWII, it wasnt the military or the equipment it had that was FUBAR'd, it was a very indecisive government that hog tied the French military.
Germany is quite lucky that France didnt fully initiate "Opertion Saar" while it was in Poland.
Oh... and again, the D520 fighter, S35 tank, and maybe even the Char-b1 tank would be swell additions to the game. The French also had a decent dive bomber/attack airplane and I dont remember what it was atm.
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OH---you skins guys---how about some Free French Spits, Tempests, and B-26s---if you get bored.
There are Free French Ju88's, P47s, and P38s (unless it was rotated out), if that does anything for ya.
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Lots of guys in here with nothing but "hear-say" when it comes to French tools of war.
France was quite capable at the onset of WWII, it wasnt the military or the equipment it had that was FUBAR'd, it was a very indecisive government that hog tied the French military.
Germany is quite lucky that France didnt fully initiate "Opertion Saar" while it was in Poland.
Oh... and again, the D520 fighter, S35 tank, and maybe even the Char-b1 tank would be swell additions to the game. The French also had a decent dive bomber/attack airplane and I dont remember what it was atm.
Not France, Russia, England or USA (provided they were not separated by the sea) were prepared for the kind of war Germany waged at the begining.
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LOL I doubt that anyone would see you flying any of these French planes. You want them so you can get another easy kill. There are plenty of EW choices other than French planes.
The simple fact is, the planes the French used were instrumental in the defense of their country during the Battle of France and also in the Low Countries. You cannot have an EW plane set without including these planes.
This has nothing to do with easy kills, if I wanted that I would just hunt you down all day in the MW.
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I`ll fly the D.520 And be the first to blast you from the sky with it
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Does your ego have a max limit to it . Big deal if you can blast anyone from a cartoon sky. I have only been playing AH for maybe 2 years, how about you? My guess is many more than that. I also never played AW either or any other virtual flying game, so blowing me outta the sky doesn't prove anything to me. Oh by the way if they do put french tanks in here then I can blow you away while in it, cause I know you rather suck in GV's. After all....... The discussion was about French tanks not how many peoples arses you can blow outta the sky in a French plane.
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The simple fact is, the planes the French used were instrumental in the defense of their country during the Battle of France and also in the Low Countries. You cannot have an EW plane set without including these planes.
This has nothing to do with easy kills, if I wanted that I would just hunt you down all day in the MW.
ack-ack
pulling your leg :lol. but not TB's.
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lol more guys whom never read a book
I suggest you take some of your own advice..... I do remember when the P-39 was introduced to the game that you ststed that the P-39 saw service in the ETO.
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I suggest you take some of your own advice..... I do remember when the P-39 was introduced to the game that you stated that the P-39 saw service in the ETO.
boy you got it hard for me heh?
39 saw service in every theater
and u claim no 1 will fly french planes so i followed Ur ignorant remark with an arrogant one.... simple
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ack-ack, For once I think I honestly agree with you.
I love flying in the EW arena but there simply are NOT enough choices for planes or GV's in there to make it worth my time so more and more, I go to the MW arena where there more choices but still not enough.
There really is a NEED for Early and Mid war rides. Of course anytime someone brings anything up that involves EW or MW someone from the LW arena shoots it to hell saying "Its going to be a hanger queen" because they never have bothered to go into the other arenas and fly anything besides P-51D's or Spit 16's or P-47's. Alot of the GOOD ideas get shot down and pushed out of the way for more "B-29" threads or similar LATE WAR requests.
Countries needed to flesh out EW Plane/GV sets would include: (But are not limited to)
Russian
French
Dutch
Italian (They had more than the 202 and 205)
Polish
British (Tanks mostly, and a few planes)
Come on HTC, You've given us enough late war rides (Unless you wanna give us the HE-111), give us EW guys a break will ya?
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boy you got it hard for me heh?
39 saw service in every theater
and u claim no 1 will fly french planes so i followed Ur ignorant remark with an arrogant one.... simple
Let me be more specific about your comment, you said it saw service with the US in the ETO . That is not true. It did see service in the ETO with the Russians but not with the Americans. I believe it first saw US service in the New Guinea region. I also doubt that after the first week or two you wouldn't see many French planes or tanks for that matter being used even in EW. Why do you want French planes anyway your head is too big to fit under the tiny French canopies.
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ack-ack, For once I think I honestly agree with you.
I love flying in the EW arena but there simply are NOT enough choices for planes or GV's in there to make it worth my time so more and more, I go to the MW arena where there more choices but still not enough.
There really is a NEED for Early and Mid war rides. Of course anytime someone brings anything up that involves EW or MW someone from the LW arena shoots it to hell saying "Its going to be a hanger queen" because they never have bothered to go into the other arenas and fly anything besides P-51D's or Spit 16's or P-47's. Alot of the GOOD ideas get shot down and pushed out of the way for more "B-29" threads or similar LATE WAR requests.
Countries needed to flesh out EW Plane/GV sets would include: (But are not limited to)
being one.
Russian
French
Dutch
Italian (They had more than the 202 and 205)
Polish
British (Tanks mostly, and a few planes)
Come on HTC, You've given us enough late war rides (Unless you wanna give us the HE-111), give us EW guys a break will ya?
For EW maybe the British matilida as a new Brit tank but anything else (imo) would be a waste of time. The Char B would be a nice gv addition .There are many planes that could be added like the Ki-43 Oscar which for some reason has been left outta the plane line up. The poll's had a kinda cool dive bomber. Another cool addition would be the P-36.
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Let me be more specific about your comment, you said it saw service with the US in the ETO . That is not true. It did see service in the ETO with the Russians but not with the Americans. I believe it first saw US service in the New Guinea region. I also doubt that after the first week or two you wouldn't see many French planes or tanks for that matter being used even in EW. Why do you want French planes anyway your head is too big to fit under the tiny French canopies.
YAWN.... more insults BTW i never claimed U.S. used them in ETO you Misunderstood me
Why would i want them? Ive always loved The D520 Been askin for it for Years even under my old name "Blixen"
BUT seriously I've told krusty the same thing about the D520 he said no one could get kills in it told him id be the first to kill him in it not EGO AT ALL i believe its a very capable fighter so why do you dislike me lately I've read other post`s with you praising my flying
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YAWN.... more insults btw i never climed U.S. used them in ETO you Misunderstood me
Why would i want them? Ive always loved The D520 Been askin for it for Years even under my old name "Blixen"
BUT seriously ive told krusty the same thing about the D520 he said no one could get kills in it told him id be the first to kill him in it not EGO AT ALL i belive its a very capable fighter so why do you dislike me lately ive read other post`s with you praising my flying
i know i shouldn't ask but what does climed mean???
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i know i shouldn't ask but what does climed mean???
-FYB
TYPO but i fixed it now go read a book :aok
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TYPO but i fixed it now go read a book :aok
I tried! :aok
It failed :lol
-FYB
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YAWN.... more insults BTW i never claimed U.S. used them in ETO you Misunderstood me
Why would i want them? Ive always loved The D520 Been askin for it for Years even under my old name "Blixen"
BUT seriously I've told krusty the same thing about the D520 he said no one could get kills in it told him id be the first to kill him in it not EGO AT ALL i believe its a very capable fighter so why do you dislike me lately I've read other post`s with you praising my flying
What do you expect when you constantly tell people how awesome you are and how you will wax them and then telling people to read a book. You specifically directed this comment towards me by inserting my quote. You tried to get and did get a rise outta me. Typical of you backing out of a situation that your ego got you in.
I remember what was said by you about the P-39 because I remember pulling out a book on the plane in the middle of the game and informing you what it said about it's service record. I wouldn't (as you put it) have it bad for you if you just kept your ego out of it. Besides, there are other comments from other people that make mention of your ego in this thread. I respect your ability as a flyer in this game but after all .....it is just a game and really has no point other than the entertainment it brings. So beating one's chest about their ability in this game is worthless. I at least fight you uber guys everytime and. I don't fly in hoards, I don't run to ack, I don't look for the ho, so at least I try and give you the best fight my 2 year experience can give, no need to constantly tell me how you can wax me in any plane.
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I agree with Ack-Ack's comments on the EW needing more Vehicles of all types and origins.There are to many to list at this time in the morning.