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Title: Spying
Post by: Kamando on December 21, 2008, 11:27:10 AM
Well, it was bound to catch on quickly I guess.  Theres always a few low lifes looking for a way to drag their lame scores out of the gutter and try and look like competent AHII pilots. 
It's three times in as many days that I have caught squads with pilots in more than one country in the same arena.  VP-11 Squad was last night.  They were going for the gold and had a pilot in all three countries.  Just last week one scumbag decided to move a CV out into the middle of nowhere so they could bomb it and get it back since they captured the base.
Is there any reporting of this going on that I don't know of?  There needs to be a way to prevent/discourage this from happening.  This game is tough enough and now some unscrupulous few want to cheat, how lame.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: B4Buster on December 21, 2008, 11:29:31 AM
You need to be careful about which squads you accuse of spying. There's squads that are pretty loose and allow members to go to the countries where the best furballs are going on, the 80th and Army of Muppets for example. A squad isn't necessarily spying just because they have squaddies in more than one country
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Masherbrum on December 21, 2008, 11:35:59 AM
zOMFG  SPIZ!!!!!!  lolz!!!
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: B4Buster on December 21, 2008, 11:38:13 AM
zOMFG  SPIZ!!!!!!  lolz!!!

Speaking of side switchers...there's one!
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Guppy35 on December 21, 2008, 11:41:18 AM
Damn!  Busted again.  I flew for two countries the other night myself too.  I was really curious to see where I'd been from the other side!  And my squad?  Well those old 80th guys can't figure out what country there in most of the time so we have to send different pilots to different countries looking for ourselves.  We're gonna all meet in the same place one day though, so watch out!
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: uptown on December 21, 2008, 11:49:40 AM
(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/Knight_Who_Say_Ni_Figure.jpg) I shall hunt these english pigdogs and say NEE!
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Max on December 21, 2008, 11:50:41 AM

It's three times in as many days that I have caught squads with pilots in more than one country in the same arena. 


So what? Could it be some of the squad was trying to keep country numbers balanced? While I usually fly Bish in the MW arena, yesterday I flew Rooks as they were low on #'s. Next thing I know some Dudley Doright from Bishland is PM'g me calling me a traitor and idiot. Lolz...some of you folks need to rent yourselves a grip and relax.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Lusche on December 21, 2008, 12:06:24 PM
Damn!  Busted again.  I flew for two countries the other night myself too.  I was really curious to see where I'd been from the other side! 

You should not only be banned from this game for life, but also from all internet, they should revoke all your civil rights, your driving license and force you to walk three times around your hometown, naked while carrying a "TRAITOR" sign!

 :devil
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Delirium on December 21, 2008, 12:09:27 PM
It's three times in as many days that I have caught squads with pilots in more than one country in the same arena.  VP-11 Squad was last night.  They were going for the gold and had a pilot in all three countries. 

You really need to get laid... I'm willing to take up a collection to get you a rental, that poor girl doesn't know what she is in for.

Theres always a few low lifes looking for a way to drag their lame scores out of the gutter and try and look like competent AHII pilots. 

Frankly, I have a feeling most of us could beat you 1v1 just using trim.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Bronk on December 21, 2008, 12:17:25 PM
(http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m238/Goldelks/Stang.jpg)

 :noid
 :rofl
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Getback on December 21, 2008, 12:28:26 PM
I've seen people come over from other countries and run missions with us just to get a capture. Not every one that comes over from another country is spying. One guy came over to just fight his own squad. In fact we have had guys in our squad do that. All in the name of fun.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: smokey23 on December 21, 2008, 12:38:59 PM
FUN??? are we supposed to be haveing fun? i thought this game was about stress, aggrivation and screaming at youre monitor i sure wish someone would have told me apparently i been doin it all wrong :confused:
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Fulmar on December 21, 2008, 01:34:46 PM
FUN??? are we supposed to be haveing fun? i thought this game was about stress, aggrivation and screaming at youre monitor i sure wish someone would have told me apparently i been doin it all wrong :confused:
Its obviously about winning the neverending war.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: CAP1 on December 21, 2008, 02:20:28 PM
Well, it was bound to catch on quickly I guess.  Theres always a few low lifes looking for a way to drag their lame scores out of the gutter and try and look like competent AHII pilots. 
It's three times in as many days that I have caught squads with pilots in more than one country in the same arena.  VP-11 Squad was last night.  They were going for the gold and had a pilot in all three countries.  Just last week one scumbag decided to move a CV out into the middle of nowhere so they could bomb it and get it back since they captured the base.
Is there any reporting of this going on that I don't know of?  There needs to be a way to prevent/discourage this from happening.  This game is tough enough and now some unscrupulous few want to cheat, how lame.


not all squads have people on different countries for this purpose.
my former squad has people in 2 countries, but thye don't spy. the squad i'm in now, frowns on country switching, but once in a great while, some will switch to find a fight. simply go to the other side of the map, so ya don;t hafta fight your own squaddies.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: texasmom on December 21, 2008, 02:44:39 PM
Members of our squadron frequently switch sides ~ I think some squadrons frown upon it, but not ours.

In fact, some of the most fun our squadron has had was in doing foxhunts ~ one member switches sides and the rest of the squadron hunts him down.  :aok
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: pervert on December 21, 2008, 03:10:01 PM
This is outrageous!! surely HTC has some kind of electric chair for people caught doing this? In real life spys were shot if caught
and i for one believe a similar punishment should exist in the game...
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: B4Buster on December 21, 2008, 03:13:25 PM
This is outrageous!! surely HTC has some kind of electric chair for people caught doing this? In real life spys were shot if caught
and i for one believe a similar punishment should exist in the game...


Skuzzy = Gestapo

Would hate to be caught by him
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: thndregg on December 21, 2008, 03:32:05 PM
Well, it was bound to catch on quickly I guess.  Theres always a few low lifes looking for a way to drag their lame scores out of the gutter and try and look like competent AHII pilots. 
It's three times in as many days that I have caught squads with pilots in more than one country in the same arena.  VP-11 Squad was last night.  They were going for the gold and had a pilot in all three countries.  Just last week one scumbag decided to move a CV out into the middle of nowhere so they could bomb it and get it back since they captured the base.
Is there any reporting of this going on that I don't know of?  There needs to be a way to prevent/discourage this from happening.  This game is tough enough and now some unscrupulous few want to cheat, how lame.


Find another hobby besides Aces High. Step away, do something else in the real world. You act like this is a paying career. :huh
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: stodd on December 21, 2008, 03:38:25 PM
SPIEZ OMG RUN!!!!
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: helbent on December 21, 2008, 04:37:18 PM
Well, it was bound to catch on quickly I guess.  Theres always a few low lifes looking for a way to drag their lame scores out of the gutter and try and look like competent AHII pilots. 
It's three times in as many days that I have caught squads with pilots in more than one country in the same arena.  VP-11 Squad was last night.  They were going for the gold and had a pilot in all three countries.  Just last week one scumbag decided to move a CV out into the middle of nowhere so they could bomb it and get it back since they captured the base.
Is there any reporting of this going on that I don't know of?  There needs to be a way to prevent/discourage this from happening.  This game is tough enough and now some unscrupulous few want to cheat, how lame.


Having squadmembers on diff teams does not mean your cheating.  You must do it honorably tho.  Which ever country you fly for, you should treat as your brothers.  At no time should you exchange tactical information such as cv locations or mission info to squaddies on diff country.

A few months ago I caught a squaddie giving another mission info.  The one that was giving info quit before I could boot him and the reciever was repremanded and sentenced to a week of p-40.

I understand this is a game, but a little honor goes along way with the community.  If you catch someone exchanging info (cheating) expose them and kick em out of the squad.

We are to police ourselves in this instance, so get to it.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: crazyivan on December 21, 2008, 04:58:07 PM
Who cares? and  Im IN nice subject title. :aok :rofl
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: bj229r on December 21, 2008, 05:14:36 PM
Damn!  Busted again.  I flew for two countries the other night myself too.  I was really curious to see where I'd been from the other side!  And my squad?  Well those old 80th guys can't figure out what country there in most of the time so we have to send different pilots to different countries looking for ourselves.  We're gonna all meet in the same place one day though, so watch out!
And he shot me down from both countries! :cry
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Tec on December 21, 2008, 05:31:23 PM
My favorite is the DB's that call people "traders".  What do I trade? Beaver furs, baseball cards, maybe stocks??????
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: SIK1 on December 21, 2008, 05:53:19 PM
LOL, so having two squad members on different countries at the same time is proof of spying. :noid

Just so that you know, if I'm not flying squad night ops I tend to go to whatever country has the fewest numbers, without regard to where my fellow squad members happen to be. It doesn't make me a spy.
 
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: crazyivan on December 21, 2008, 06:41:58 PM
My favorite is the DB's that call people "traders".  What do I trade? Beaver furs, baseball cards, maybe stocks??????
your a insider trader TEC. Hows the beaver trade going.Nevada ?
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: B4Buster on December 21, 2008, 06:55:29 PM
My favorite is the DB's that call people "traders".  What do I trade? Beaver furs, baseball cards, maybe stocks??????

 :rofl
 :rofl
 :rofl
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Kamando on December 21, 2008, 06:58:05 PM
Wow, someone left the dog cage gate unlocked I see.
Silly me, I should have know everyone here is full of honor and everyone is innocent.
And it's incredible how brave a few of you are while anonymous.
Same name in the MA as here, look me up and don't forget your flaps.
Incredible the vitriol...lets attack the messenger.
And I'm sure it was an honorable person that moved a CV to the middle of nowhere w/bombers IB, because we all know there are no cheaters here.
And I'm sure it was pure luck that NOE missions get denied because the enemy certainly wasn't alerted, that would be unthinkable.
It's probably you same clowns that were screaming about hacks a few months back, but how could that be, there are no cheaters in this game!
Here I thought I was going to have an intelligent debate but that's certainly lacking from some of you.
My bad, best I just go along to get along.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: BaldEagl on December 21, 2008, 06:59:46 PM
They are all spies.  You go girl!
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Tec on December 21, 2008, 07:07:23 PM
Kamando, you are right all that crap you are squeaking about does go on.  But claiming that because a squad has people on more than one country that they are engaged in that activity is pure speculation at best.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Kamando on December 21, 2008, 07:16:25 PM
Kamando, you are right all that crap you are wrenching about does go on.  But claiming that because a squad has people on more than one country that they are engaged in that activity is pure speculation at best.
Your right, I shouldn't have made the assumption that's what was happening.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: B4Buster on December 21, 2008, 07:23:40 PM
Same name in the MA as here, look me up and don't forget your flaps.

me me me  :t
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: TequilaChaser on December 21, 2008, 07:51:35 PM
man, I am surprised that "double spy" dedalos has not commented yet.this is right up his forte



signed:
SECRET AGENT MAN  :devil
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: TwinBoom on December 21, 2008, 08:16:46 PM
(http://img123.imageshack.us/img123/6406/spykillerwt9.jpg)
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Wingnutt on December 21, 2008, 08:55:49 PM

(http://pages.suddenlink.net/ja001son/AH2/zespy.jpg)







<S> Lightning Losers :aok
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Bronk on December 21, 2008, 08:59:40 PM
(http://pages.suddenlink.net/ja001son/AH2/zespy.jpg)







<S> Lightning Losers :aok

You are going to bringing a world of hurt on yourself.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Wingnutt on December 21, 2008, 09:04:01 PM
You are going to bringing a world of hurt on yourself.


after 5 NOEs in a row in different areas got busted, I took a quick look at the roster and thats what I saw..

Im not implying anything  :D
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: B4Buster on December 21, 2008, 09:05:31 PM
You are going to bringing a world of hurt on yourself.


pretty sure he was being sarcastic Bronk but incause he wasn't..

What kind of guy would waste him time spying during a squad night when he could be flying with squadies, enjoying himself?  :huh

 :huh
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Wingnutt on December 21, 2008, 09:06:51 PM
pretty sure he was being sarcastic Bronk but incause he wasn't..

What kind of guy would waste him time spying during a squad night when he could be flying with squadies, enjoying himself?  :huh

 :huh


well it was a guy with no rank and no sorties (at that time)..

maybe he didnt have a joystick  :uhoh
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: B4Buster on December 21, 2008, 09:11:41 PM
Not sure man, would be surprised if here were spying though, I know I personally would rather be with squadies
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: BigR on December 21, 2008, 09:23:03 PM
Well, it was bound to catch on quickly I guess.  Theres always a few low lifes looking for a way to drag their lame scores out of the gutter and try and look like competent AHII pilots. 
It's three times in as many days that I have caught squads with pilots in more than one country in the same arena.  VP-11 Squad was last night.  They were going for the gold and had a pilot in all three countries.  Just last week one scumbag decided to move a CV out into the middle of nowhere so they could bomb it and get it back since they captured the base.
Is there any reporting of this going on that I don't know of?  There needs to be a way to prevent/discourage this from happening.  This game is tough enough and now some unscrupulous few want to cheat, how lame.


(http://trekmovie.com/images/shatbookgetlife.jpg)
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Rino on December 21, 2008, 10:28:49 PM
Wow, someone left the dog cage gate unlocked I see.
Silly me, I should have know everyone here is full of honor and everyone is innocent.
And it's incredible how brave a few of you are while anonymous.
Same name in the MA as here, look me up and don't forget your flaps.
Incredible the vitriol...lets attack the messenger.
And I'm sure it was an honorable person that moved a CV to the middle of nowhere w/bombers IB, because we all know there are no cheaters here.
And I'm sure it was pure luck that NOE missions get denied because the enemy certainly wasn't alerted, that would be unthinkable.
It's probably you same clowns that were screaming about hacks a few months back, but how could that be, there are no cheaters in this game!
Here I thought I was going to have an intelligent debate but that's certainly lacking from some of you.
My bad, best I just go along to get along.


     Well you have had your little rant and a bunch of people didn't agree, so now you can have a
little tantrum and stomp your feet.  Somehow I don't see this ending well. 

     By the by, you don't have to be in a squad to PM someone.  I am certain that someone with your VAST
experience must know that by now of course  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Gwjr2 on December 21, 2008, 11:24:33 PM
he WASN'T SPYING hes just......well a Dummy  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: stodd on December 21, 2008, 11:32:03 PM
(http://pages.suddenlink.net/ja001son/AH2/zespy.jpg)
<S> Lightning Losers :aok

Wingnutt, being a memeber of a squad full of hypocritse and tards your one to talk. :rofl

Funny watching some of your squaddies vulch each other in EW for perkpoints I wont say any names (GReric, GRares) . While in LW watch carrier's that are 10 sectors from ANY base be sunk by a random flight of rolling thunder buffs who just happend to be passing by. :huh

Im not implying anything  :D
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Wingnutt on December 21, 2008, 11:54:05 PM
Wingnutt, being a memeber of a squad full of hypocritse and tards your one to talk. :rofl

Funny watching some of your squaddies vulch each other in EW for perkpoints I wont say any names (GReric, GRares) . While in LW watch carrier's that are 10 sectors from ANY base be sunk by a random flight of rolling thunder buffs who just happend to be passing by. :huh


GrAries has no kills and no deaths for any country in EW this tour or last tour, and eric only has 9 or so deaths in EW last tour, and none this tour..

yea they were really racking up the perkies there buddy!! wow, you sure showed me! :rofl :rofl :rofl
you know, you can check scores and stuff, there is a link on the main page.. called "scores"  its useful in preventing accusations that may end up making you look like... well like you look now.  :aok

as for the CV we found and killed..  you mean the one where it got taken, and hid at the top of the map?

we didnt find it, but it was announced on country where it was, and we killed it..   sorry that didnt work as the planners intended. :cry

you country hop all 3, you sure you aren't the one that spilled the beans?
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: stodd on December 22, 2008, 12:22:55 AM
GrAries has no kills and no deaths for any country in EW this tour or last tour, and eric only has 9 or so deaths in EW last tour, and none this tour..-My appologies, it was actually GREderek

yea they were really racking up the perkies there buddy!! wow, you sure showed me! :rofl :rofl :rofl
you know, you can check scores and stuff, there is a link on the main page.. called "scores"  its useful in preventing accusations -Good idea, The first tour I tried I picked at random, tour 105- 9kills on jeeps and m3's
as for the CV we found and killed..  you mean the one where it got taken, and hid at the top of the map?

we didnt find it, but it was announced on country where it was, and we killed it..   sorry that didnt work as the planners intended. :cry

you country hop all 3, you sure you aren't the one that spilled the beans?-That may be, I pay $15 just so I can spy to help the all important "win the war" thing.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: bmwgs on December 22, 2008, 01:00:59 AM
Wingnutt, being a memeber of a squad full of hypocritse and tards your one to talk. :rofl

Funny watching some of your squaddies vulch each other in EW for perkpoints I wont say any names (GReric, GRares) . While in LW watch carrier's that are 10 sectors from ANY base be sunk by a random flight of rolling thunder buffs who just happend to be passing by. :huh


HYPOCRITES or tards?  Funny how you always seem to be concerned about what is going on in our squad.  Your obsession now is with one player who is not presently a member in our squad.  Maybe you need to be concerned about other things.  It seems you spend way to much time worrying about us.

Fred 
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Getback on December 22, 2008, 01:55:18 AM
HYPOCRITES or tards?  Funny how you always seem to be concerned about what is going on in our squad.  Your obsession now is with one player who is not presently a member in our squad.  Maybe you need to be concerned about other things.  It seems you spend way to much time worrying about us.

Fred 


Ditto!

Besides I have seen knits and irookies fly straight to a hidden cv countless times. Maybe if you want to clean things up start there. Frankly I just accept that is going to happen. In the truest since of the word our squad does not spy. We have never revealed a mission, other than happening on an NOE as bish, or told of a cv heading to one of our bases. If that happens I would hope that there would be a strong reprimand or a ban from the squad. I've actually posted something related to this on our boards so everyone knows up front.

Haven't you joined our missions Stodd? I think so I asked if you had permission. See any spying? Nope.

What I would like to see is that you cannot change countries for a full camp after you switch sides and neither can you control a cv. That won't stop the shades but hey it would certainly help.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Oleg on December 22, 2008, 02:11:26 AM
HTC should get rid of NOE, it would stop most spy whining.
Swarm completely defendless base is lame anyway.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Getback on December 22, 2008, 02:18:21 AM
HTC should get rid of NOE, it would stop most spy whining.
Swarm completely defendless base is lame anyway.


Totally disagree!

However, It seems the In-Your-Face missions have worked quite well recently. We did that at 185 tonight. We have done those and have seen the enemy actually turn around and land.  :rofl :rofl

Noe's are only effective if you don't get caught until the last minute. If you get caught early. Oh that is just awful.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: drdeathx on December 22, 2008, 02:49:40 AM
zOMFG  SPIZ!!!!!!  lolz!!!


MASHERBRUM
^^^^^^^^^^^^

(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq77/AAdeath/duncecap.png)







Title: Re: Spying
Post by: drdeathx on December 22, 2008, 02:50:25 AM
(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq77/AAdeath/th_bond.jpg) (http://s435.photobucket.com/albums/qq77/AAdeath/?action=view&current=bond.jpg)
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Sharrk on December 22, 2008, 03:19:25 AM

Sounds like a real problem
 :O

Better send in a spy catcher...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_EMnY79UVc
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: oTRALFZo on December 22, 2008, 03:42:41 AM
Wingnut,
Im not bashing Rolling thunder. Im just giving freindly advice.
when you post on country "JOIN NOE MISSION"  your really looking to paint a big bullseye on  yourself and setting yourself up to fail most of the time.
with a squad of 50 or so on the roster, if NOE is what you guys like doing..practice it as a squad. you dont need another 50 to join the mission like you guys do.

It may look suspicous that one guy with no rank is another country, but I see 2 other guys in that squad with no rank. That is still no proof for spy accusations in my oppinion.
People that " country swap" arent spies 99% of the time. They are just looking for some good fights.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Delirium on December 22, 2008, 04:55:47 AM
Some of you take this game WAY too seriously.

HTC should get rid of NOE, it would stop most spy whining.
Swarm completely defendless base is lame anyway.

Hopefully, you'll get your wish as many agree with you, including Hitech.

Killjoy: Element of surprise, while sounding great from an offensive mode, create big problems for actual game play.

Think of it this way, if the element of surprise is so overwellming that there is no way to defend against, then that is the path of least resistance, and hence will become the primary mode of attack. That is the state of affairs as it stood previously with big maps.

Now there are NOE raids that do not cause this, I.E. NOE raids to acheive  singular objectives, I.E. hitting cities, factories, possibly 1 open field deep in enemy territory. But if all objectives can be taken by NOE raids, IT creates non defensible game play.

2nd it easy to say, well people should just defend then. Think about what it really takes to defend against NOE raids, and do you really want to do that defense.

To defend successfully at NOE raids, you need more than 1 player.
2nd to defend against them you have to sit in the tower, waiting for the base to flash, and then up soon as it does.
Does that defense sound fun to you ? I.E. do you really want to just wait in tower for something that might or might not occur? Sure if you new a NOE mission was otw, but didn't know where it might be fun. But not where you don't even know if one is going to occur.


Hence what we are talking about is simply balance. I see where NOE raids can be fun, but we have to have a system where they do not become the path of least resistance for base capture.

HiTech
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: AWwrgwy on December 22, 2008, 05:15:26 AM
I just like this picture:

(http://img530.imageshack.us/img530/7647/spycu2.jpg)



wrongway

(just realised, am I obsessed with Donald Sutherland?)
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: stodd on December 22, 2008, 05:36:08 AM
HYPOCRITES or tards?  Funny how you always seem to be concerned about what is going on in our squad.  Your obsession now is with one player who is not presently a member in our squad.  Maybe you need to be concerned about other things.  It seems you spend way to much time worrying about us.

Fred 
Im just saying mabey before your squaddies start going after other squads you guys arnt no angels yourself, cupcake.

68's are a good group and I found what wingnutt wrote rather tasteless so I returned the favor.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: stodd on December 22, 2008, 05:39:23 AM
Haven't you joined our missions Stodd? I think so I asked if you had permission.-I need permission lol. I joined because I like falcon, hes one of the few rolling thunder members I like.

What I would like to see is that you cannot change countries for a full camp after you switch sides and neither can you control a cv. That won't stop the shades but hey it would certainly help.- :lol
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: bmwgs on December 22, 2008, 05:55:49 AM
Im just saying mabey before your squaddies start going after other squads you guys arnt no angels yourself, cupcake.

68's are a good group and I found what wingnutt wrote rather tasteless so I returned the favor.

I have had a few rounds with the 68th and I have no problems with them.  If they have a problem with something that Wingnutt said, then they can address it.  The issue I am addressing is how you seem to be concerned with RT when you know absolutely nothing about them.  I'm sure you have other issues that you need to be concerned with instead of worrying about us.     

As an adult, I will refrain from the name calling, but you go right ahead, it only shows your adolescents.

Fred
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: skribetm on December 22, 2008, 06:10:15 AM
one suggestion;

turn off all private cross-country communications, voice and text.

i'd assume they'd have to resort to i.m's, ventrilo or phone calls. lol!

but really, spying will never be stopped. period. deal with it. have fun and don't stress out, you'll live longer.



Title: Re: Spying
Post by: uptown on December 22, 2008, 06:21:21 AM
HTC should get rid of NOE, it would stop most spy whining.




 :rofl :rofl :rofl I don't think that's the answer
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Meatwad on December 22, 2008, 07:12:40 AM
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Fugita on December 22, 2008, 07:42:17 AM
Who really gives a crap about any of this? And if anyone really does care, what are you going to do to stop it?
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Xasthur on December 22, 2008, 07:46:30 AM
Oh noeess! we might lose teh warz!

Just fly your plane and be done with it.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: thndregg on December 22, 2008, 07:52:02 AM
(http://www.gadgetgrid.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/star-wars-battleship-game.png)

 :rolleyes: Aces High is played on the internet.  :rolleyes: Spying is okay. :rolleyes: :huh
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: stegor on December 22, 2008, 07:58:10 AM
Quote
And it's incredible how brave a few of you are while anonymous.


well.....that's the cause of all......cartoons planes and anonymous chasteners.....easy game when everyone can be so blasting without exposing his face... :t
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: RTHolmes on December 22, 2008, 07:59:54 AM
sentenced to a week of p-40.

oooo thats harsh :D
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Paladin3 on December 22, 2008, 08:34:32 AM
I will just throw this one out there. I upped one time with my squad and heard some VOX communications mentioning that the country being attacked could not use their shore battery. Was quite amuzed, and said that the country was really raising cain. I was climbing out heavy at the time and broke formation with my squad and landed, letting my OIC know that I wasn't going to participate. I get angry when a second account sits in our shore battery and monitors communications, so I am not doing it to someone else. I also spend alot of time upping at bases being hit NOE. A lot of times that is a fun fight, and usually over one way or another fairly quickly.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Shuffler on December 22, 2008, 08:51:22 AM
Countries??? What Countries...... I only see chess pieces.......  :huh




 :rofl
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: bongaroo on December 22, 2008, 09:06:28 AM
one suggestion;

turn off all private cross-country communications, voice and text.

i'd assume they'd have to resort to i.m's, ventrilo or phone calls. lol!

but really, spying will never be stopped. period. deal with it. have fun and don't stress out, you'll live longer.


This is a horrible idea.  I'd have to get ventrillo or a phone to tell my buddies where the cv...I mean where a good fight is at.  :D

Seriously you gave the reason why it wouldn't make a difference against spies and be a huge PITA for everyone else who can make friends with other chess pieces.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Getback on December 22, 2008, 09:21:20 AM


In the immortal words of Foghorn Leghorn, That was a yolk son a yolk. Remember you laughed. BTW, I missed quoted myself. What I said was "Do you have written permission".

Let me add that wingnutt and Bmw are both great individuals that I enjoy flying with and of course I'm going to defend my wingies.

But feel free to join our missions. We won't accuse you of spying. But bring written permission.

Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Getback on December 22, 2008, 09:46:51 AM
Who really gives a crap about any of this? And if anyone really does care, what are you going to do to stop it?

Amen. Frankly I just accept it. If someone wants to spy on us then so be it and we will get into the battle sooner. However, it never hurts to be vigilant and know who is watching. That's a part of war too.

Let me add this. We are all hypocrits. We point our fingers at those across the border and say bad while folks on our own side are doing it.

In Air Warriors, back in the day, I was a pretty good pilot, I use to have people switch countries and fly right beside me just to report where I was to their comrades.  :rofl :rofl Well I'm not a worry these days.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: uptown on December 22, 2008, 10:07:09 AM
Mata Hari was hotttttttttttttttt!
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: B4Buster on December 22, 2008, 10:35:22 AM
Now I'm not a base taker, but I don't think NOE should be taken out of the game. It was possible to go below dar in real life, why not here?

You guys whine that they attack defenseless bases, well they're not defenseless if you up to defend, rather than sit in the tower saying "OMG NOE ALERT" because you're worried to ruin your K/D.

I enjoy upping and flying fighter cover for NOE missions (sometime) if nothing else is going on. Now I won't carry ords or kill town, I still like flying cover, just a change of pace for a while.

Now I don't find base taking fun like RT, but, I think they're an excellent group of guys, and telling them to run missions only with their squad is dumb. It may be hard for some people to realize base taking is fun for some guys (because I don't really think it is) but people enjoy FALCON's and other RT member's missions. They pay their $15 a month, if they think it's fun let them join.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: bongaroo on December 22, 2008, 11:20:30 AM
While I agree with some stuff, I'll break up your quote with some answers:

Now I'm not a base taker, but I don't think NOE should be taken out of the game. It was possible to go below dar in real life, why not here?You guys whine that they attack defenseless bases, well they're not defenseless if you up to defend, rather than sit in the tower saying "OMG NOE ALERT" because you're worried to ruin your K/D.

About being below dar, yes.  NOE raids were performed.  Some ended miserably and some sucessfully.  But besides dar, countries in WW2 had thousands of soldiers and civilians watching the skies for enemy planes.  We don't have that luxury.

And about defending against NOE raids.  Seriously?  We'd have to sit in a tower and wait while watching the map for a base to flash and then up to see if it's a bunch of NOE planes or just one random gv.  This is boring and I don't think anyone would want to do it.  Furthermore in order for this to work you'd need at least 5 or 10 people doing it constantly.  Count me out.

NOE attacks are hard to detect first off and if someone is calling it out on country than the enemy is probably already setting up the vulch.  I'm not worried about my K/D but I don't have a lot of fun rolling 20 seconds on a runway defenceless before getting blown up a couple dozen times in a row.  I'm going to want a little alt, which means I'm coming in from another base.  But guess what, too late the base is gone.  Pretty lame.

I enjoy upping and flying fighter cover for NOE missions (sometime) if nothing else is going on. Now I won't carry ords or kill town, I still like flying cover, just a change of pace for a while.

I don't quite know how to respond to this.  You enjoy enabling NOE missions?  More power to ya; the land grab (especially the NOE variety) game isn't my cup of tea.

Now I don't find base taking fun like RT, but, I think they're an excellent group of guys, and telling them to run missions only with their squad is dumb. It may be hard for some people to realize base taking is fun for some guys (because I don't really think it is) but people enjoy FALCON's and other RT member's missions. They pay their $15 a month, if they think it's fun let them join.

I could care less what they do with the game.  If they post the misshun and allow others to join they shouldn't expect it to stay a secret.  Don't post misshuns NOE if your scared of spies ruining it.  Pretty simple, huh?

<S> have a nice day
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Patches1 on December 22, 2008, 11:42:29 AM


Just some thoughts here...NOE Raids in the MA occur below 500 feet Above Ground Level (AGL)...I think that is where the DAR is set.

Further, the DAR Circle is 25 miles in diameter...and at 12.5 miles the base will begin flashing even though you are still under 500 feet Above Ground Level (AGL)...this is indicative of an NOE Raid!

Why? Because HTC modeled in the Civilian Watchers, and the Coast Watchers...the base will receive advanced warning of your low level attack at 12.5 miles from the base.

Now, whether or not you accept this fact...that is up to you.

<S>
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Wingnutt on December 22, 2008, 11:42:50 AM
the NOE type mission you see so often, is not a problem, it is a solution..

fact of the matter is the game is so gamey, that NOE are the end result..

ortherwise what happens?  your massive air armada arrives..  2 or 3 guys up LA7s disregard everyone else and go straight for the goons, or running troops, getting shot down over and or ramming if necessary..  boom, mission fail..

30 guys beaten by 2 or 3 suicidal people..


so Yea, the NOE is a gamy way to take a base, because AH is a gamy game.. well more fairly, it is played gamy.

the NOE 110/goon missions are just the natural evolution of tactics in the game..

what would help?


if you get shot down you have to wait 1 minute to up from the same field again (or you can up immediately from a different one)..

that would eleminate the ability for 1 or 2 suicidal people to defeat an entire mission, and NOEs would no longer be the only really effective way to take a base, and would not be as prevalent.

currently there is absolutly no penalty to for death, you can up and die over and over as fast as you can, so goon drivers are dead meat, no matter how many escorts they have, 1 guy can usually still kill them, sure he dies almost instantly as a result... but so what?  hes back in the air in 5 seconds..   that situation happening over and over has lead to what we have now.

people bark and cry for more and more UNREALISTIC features in the game (cant pork fuel to 0, bomb craters dont hinder takeoff/landing... etc etc) then the same people piss and moan when as a result the type of play needed to take bases evolves into a more gamy way of accomplishing that goal..



introduce more realistic ways to capture bases and you will see people use them, make it so you have to do "tard" things to do it, and that's what you will get..

but I still find it less lame to be the NOE mission, than to be the 1 guy dieing 10 times in 2 minutes trying to suicide into the goon... well unless its in a Japanese plane, then it sort of makes sense.. not really.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: bongaroo on December 22, 2008, 11:44:53 AM
I'd rather we remove base capture all together, hows that?   :aok









 :rolleyes:

::edit::

guess I should do more than just troll.

If your normal attack with 10 or more people is being thwarted by 2 or 3 people we need to have a talk.  Sounds like you all need some TA time to learn how to escort a goon and how to properly CAP a base.

 :t
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: WMLute on December 22, 2008, 11:52:49 AM
meh...

Spying is really a low class, no honor thing for one to do.

I have had players on my country change sides and p.m. me info before.  (has happened many times actually) I let said player(s) know that i'm the WRONG person to do that with, and kindly informed them that in the future to not do such things with me.  (and of course didn't "do" anything with the intel I was given)

It is a matter of principal, and a weenie move in general.

I remember one night myself and several in my squad were looking for a particular CV to kill  (we had taken the port, and wanted the CV).  We musta looked for 2-3 hours for the CV group.  I even ran a 262 out of gas flying around looking for it.

I was gonna log so, so I switched sides just to see where it was.  I laughed on squad at where it ended up being (we were close) but nobody in the squad even asked (those that were not login') or even THOUGHT about asking me where it actually was.

I think it boils down to breeding and how one was raised.  I once got caught cheating at a young age at a game of UNO by my Grandfather.  Needless to say when he was done "talking" to me, I understood that OUR family does not do such things.  Heck, I once watched my Dad drive 20 miles back to a store that gave him one dollar too much in change.  Here is a guy making 6 figures blowing 40 min to an hour of his time over a buck.  It wasn't the dollar amount, it was the principal.  For him, it was worth the hour to do the "right thing".

Some people have honor.  Some people think that such things matter.

Some don't.

Much respect for the former, and much pity for the latter.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Lance48 on December 22, 2008, 12:00:25 PM
I don't really care for the spying thing if anyone is doing it, goes against my honor code, but then again I suppose it could be excused somewhat as being a historical mechanic of war.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Patches1 on December 22, 2008, 12:20:59 PM
WingNutt...take a breath... ;-)

The Original Post was about Spying...not Base Capture.

My post was intended to explain how some folks can take a feature of the game of which they either aren't aware exists, or don't understand, and misinterpret it to something else.

Just a thought...  :-)

<S>
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: RTHolmes on December 22, 2008, 12:22:45 PM
well said Lute :aok
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: doc1kelley on December 22, 2008, 12:23:08 PM
I'd rather we remove base capture all together, hows that?   :aok
 :rolleyes:

OK remove base capture and while you're at it, remove porking ords, VH's, fighter and bomber hangers, and install an altitude cap so we don't have high altitude peeps come picking.  Anything else we can remove so we can play ping pong with paddles that look like airplanes?  I know... let's just make it all just a fighter arena where everybody spawns at 10K and we can play "Aces High Quake".   Geez guys.... Think about what your vitching about here.  The topic was about spying and who really cares?  This is a WWII combat semi-simulation and in all wars we had spying.  We just have to use common sense to counter spying to get your mission accomplished.  The world has digressed into having somebody else fix it for me and it's NOT HTC's responsibility to stop spying!  It's our own responsibility to take measures to counter the effects of the SPYing or suffer the consequences.  If you are intent on announcing your plans on an open country channel and complain about your mission being intercepted because a spy gave your intententions to your enemy, you don't have a right to vitch about it then!

All the Best...
    Jay
  awDoc1
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Slate on December 22, 2008, 12:31:29 PM
    Loose lips sink ships. The walls have ears.  :noid The spies are shooting my kills as they plummet to earth. I think his name is Assist.   :O
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: doc1kelley on December 22, 2008, 12:35:42 PM
meh...

Spying is really a low class, no honor thing for one to do.

I have had players on my country change sides and p.m. me info before.  (has happened many times actually) I let said player(s) know that i'm the WRONG person to do that with, and kindly informed them that in the future to not do such things with me.  (and of course didn't "do" anything with the intel I was given)

It is a matter of principal, and a weenie move in general.

I remember one night myself and several in my squad were looking for a particular CV to kill  (we had taken the port, and wanted the CV).  We musta looked for 2-3 hours for the CV group.  I even ran a 262 out of gas flying around looking for it.

I was gonna log so, so I switched sides just to see where it was.  I laughed on squad at where it ended up being (we were close) but nobody in the squad even asked (those that were not login') or even THOUGHT about asking me where it actually was.

I think it boils down to breeding and how one was raised.  I once got caught cheating at a young age at a game of UNO by my Grandfather.  Needless to say when he was done "talking" to me, I understood that OUR family does not do such things.  Heck, I once watched my Dad drive 20 miles back to a store that gave him one dollar too much in change.  Here is a guy making 6 figures blowing 40 min to an hour of his time over a buck.  It wasn't the dollar amount, it was the principal.  For him, it was worth the hour to do the "right thing".

Some people have honor.  Some people think that such things matter.

Some don't.

Much respect for the former, and much pity for the latter.

Absolutely on target WMLute <S>

You can loose everything that you own and love but the only thing that can't be taken away is your personal "honor".  Only you can give your honor away!  

All the Best...
    Jay
 awDoc1
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Shuffler on December 22, 2008, 12:48:45 PM
(http://pages.suddenlink.net/ja001son/AH2/zespy.jpg)
<S> Lightning Losers :aok

I've flown several times with 68Dummy and I have to say he does fight for the side he is on. I would be surprised if he turned out to be spying. Just my humble opinion of him.

I have been known to accipurposely give out info on where I am and what alt...........
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: B4Buster on December 22, 2008, 12:58:23 PM
Heh Bong, why don't ya read my whole post instead of skimming through it distorting my quotes before ya start slamming me  :aok
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: simshell on December 22, 2008, 01:04:38 PM
yea but in aces high unlike real life, you wont get shot or hunted down for spying

so I cant see how spying on this game can be ok, because they did it in real life

but in real life it was alot more complicated then just pressing a button and getting the whole picture in a few seconds lol
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: bongaroo on December 22, 2008, 01:21:48 PM
OK remove base capture and while you're at it, remove porking ords, VH's, fighter and bomber hangers, and install an altitude cap so we don't have high altitude peeps come picking.  Anything else we can remove so we can play ping pong with paddles that look like airplanes?  I know... let's just make it all just a fighter arena where everybody spawns at 10K and we can play "Aces High Quake".   Geez guys.... Think about what your vitching about here.  The topic was about spying and who really cares?  This is a WWII combat semi-simulation and in all wars we had spying.  We just have to use common sense to counter spying to get your mission accomplished.  The world has digressed into having somebody else fix it for me and it's NOT HTC's responsibility to stop spying!  It's our own responsibility to take measures to counter the effects of the SPYing or suffer the consequences.  If you are intent on announcing your plans on an open country channel and complain about your mission being intercepted because a spy gave your intententions to your enemy, you don't have a right to vitch about it then!

All the Best...
    Jay
  awDoc1

This game is about air combat.  Everything else is a side show to get air combat going.

The NOE base steal, rinse repeat smacks of "air-quake" much more than those who enjoy a good dogfight.  At least we agree about the posting misshuns and spies.  Kind of.

Heh Bong, why don't ya read my whole post instead of skimming through it distorting my quotes before ya start slamming me  :aok

Wasn't trying to be mean.  And I did read your whole post, it's broken into multiple quotes so you can see each of my responses for clarity sake.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: waystin2 on December 22, 2008, 01:28:59 PM
This game is about air combat.  Everything else is a side show to get air combat going.

The NOE base steal, rinse repeat smacks of "air-quake" much more than those who enjoy a good dogfight.  At least we agree about the posting misshuns and spies.  Kind of.

I wholeheartedly disagree.  Look at the Aces High Front Page.  I quote "Engage in the Internet's Premiere WWII Combat Experience".  Is there an air combat only in small type that I missed somewhere or is this a personal opinion?  Aces High for better or worse, like it or not, encompasses all aspects of WWII combat.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: CAP1 on December 22, 2008, 01:40:58 PM
dude.......get over it.

use it agauinst em. post a fake mission on country, then take your squaddies on private channel, and hammer the crap outta another base. play their game. have fun. enjoy the fights.

sheesh. :cry :aok :D
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Messiah on December 22, 2008, 01:42:13 PM
Chess piece allegiance is for the weak.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: stodd on December 22, 2008, 01:47:10 PM
The issue I am addressing is how you seem to be concerned with RT when you know absolutely nothing about them. 
I wonder the same question about wingnutt and the 68's.

Let me add that wingnutt and Bmw are both great individuals that I enjoy flying with and of course I'm going to defend my wingies.

But feel free to join our missions. We won't accuse you of spying. But bring written permission.

Bmw is one of the few guys there that I like, im sure wingnutt is cool too.

Ill be sure to have legal documents ready next time I join one. :lol

Im in the 68's FSO squad so I to will defend my wingies.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Wingnutt on December 22, 2008, 01:55:40 PM


 im sure wingnutt is cool too.


the force is strong in this one.
 :noid

EDIT: wait I thought he said NOT cool..

maybe force not so strong.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: CAP1 on December 22, 2008, 02:47:30 PM
I've flown several times with 68Dummy and I have to say he does fight for the side he is on. I would be surprised if he turned out to be spying. Just my humble opinion of him.

I have been known to accipurposely give out info on where I am and what alt...........

dummy is no spy. he fights like a bastage to defend whatever's under attack, just as hard dfuring an attack, and it doesn't matter what chess piece he;s fighting for. he gives it everythign he has.

 he's a good guy.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Shuffler on December 22, 2008, 02:56:57 PM
dummy is no spy. he fights like a bastage to defend whatever's under attack, just as hard dfuring an attack, and it doesn't matter what chess piece he;s fighting for. he gives it everythign he has.

 he's a good guy.

Ohhh shut up ya SAPP dweeb.....  :P
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: oTRALFZo on December 22, 2008, 03:33:23 PM
please dont eliminate the NOE attacks. Nothing gets the blood pumping more than coming across a horde of low cons.
Its not rocket science to tell when a mass horde is coming and usually you can tell where its going ( desirable high alt fields, zone bases in particular) or even jump points to start rolling the map. Ill be the first to scout out any feilds blinking that have no reason to (gv spawns..etc). Most of the time when you encounter them a distnance out, your assured a good number up to defend.
Keep em coming!!!
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: CAP1 on December 22, 2008, 05:01:53 PM
Ohhh shut up ya SAPP dweeb.....  :P

 :D I'LL WEAR THAT "DWEEB" TITLE WITH PRIDE.  :aok
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: RTHolmes on December 22, 2008, 05:23:24 PM
yup NOE raids are fun :D

http://www.lumbergh.aquiss.com/ah/ah_films/typhie%20NOE%20intercept%209k.ahf (http://www.lumbergh.aquiss.com/ah/ah_films/typhie%20NOE%20intercept%209k.ahf)
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: CAP1 on December 22, 2008, 05:28:04 PM
yup NOE raids are fun :D

http://www.lumbergh.aquiss.com/ah/ah_films/typhie%20NOE%20intercept%209k.ahf (http://www.lumbergh.aquiss.com/ah/ah_films/typhie%20NOE%20intercept%209k.ahf)

i still don't see why anyone has problems with them. they start fights. isn't that the point? start a good fihgt?
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: SIK1 on December 22, 2008, 05:55:47 PM
i still don't see why anyone has problems with them. they start fights. isn't that the point? start a good fihgt?

No, no, it's win the war at all costs!! Fights are just to keep the furballers out of the way. If resistance is encountered move the attack to a differant base. Secracy is the key shhhh, don't tell anyone where we are.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: The Fugitive on December 22, 2008, 06:57:42 PM
The problem with NOE's are they are over used. Some squads only do NOEs. These are the squads that give an NOE a bad name so to speak.

An NOE raid ...if done correctly is very hard to defend against. Once the base starts flashing you have less than 3 minutes to get up and defend. IF 3 guys are set to de-ack they can do it in two passes and then the base is capped. The rest take down the town and watch the goon come in. Piece of cake.

How ever, today its THE plan to use, why? because most people don't want to fight over a base...which is the reason there IS base capture in this game in the first place, to create a reason to FIGHT! Not wanting to fight gives these NOE squads a bad name because they fail on their attempt, and then run off to some other un-defended base. Wingnut mentioned how 3 LAs up and do nothing but hunt for the goon. The solution isn't running an NOE to an un defended base, its putting the goon out of reach! If the goon comes in at 10k how many defenders are going to get that high? NONE !! Can anybody tell me the speed with which you can rip the wings off of a goon in a dive? First, most most likely don't know a goon can go faster than that 250 or so they get on the deck, but I've never ripped the wings off a goon and have been over 500 in them.

Too many people look for the easy way, and its the biggest reason "game play" is so much worst than it use to be. No one wants to learn what the planes can do, how to fight, how to bomb, how to sneak up and fight from a GV WITHOUT spawn camping, how to put together missions that involve something other than getting a group of 110s and running NOE and hopping to have it clear when the goon gets there. I'd be willing to bet there isn't more than 5 % of the people flying today that knows how to set a way point in the mission planner let alone what the heck it is !

Spying??? who cares! Its not like your mission was any big deal anyway! Just another NOE busted, and you had to fight....sorrrrrryyy! Bomb a hidden CV?? no problem, it shouldn't be hidden in the first place. It's a mobile base, use it to attack more fields! I'll broad cast any CV I think someone is hidding. They are there to be used!! You don't want to loose it, DEFEND IT !!!

Everything in this game is geared toward one thing.....fighting !!! Whether its fighting plane to plane, plane to GV, base to base, or for the whole map, thats what its about... fighting!!! So get out there and fight !! Don't hide the CV and STOP the fighting, bring it in and fight!!! Make the other team FIGHT to get it back! Don't run away if your NOE fails, re-group, up in wings and FIGHT !! If you don't want to fight anyone go buy your self Flightsim X and run hops from one airfield to another.... I hear nobody shoots at you in that game!
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: truck5co on December 22, 2008, 07:11:47 PM
Personally I dont think the spying thing is right, dont particularly care for it but can see how others would do it. Seems like a form of cheating to me. I guess its fair to spy in real life wars so why not here? Unless of course your a democrat then things like spying and waterboarding etc is considered unsportsmanlike. Maybe we should have a feature or rule that says if you switch countries you have to stay switched for 30 days or so. Would keep guys from doing it too often. The other day I had a guy (demondog) all fired up and accusing me of being a spy because I moved a task group ( CV was dead ) closer to a base we were trying to take so maybe we could spawn lvts on shore and still accomplish the mission. Apparently he wanted the cv, or what was left of it, somewhere else but didnt bother moving it himself. So I became a spy, he was ranting and PMing me like a lunatic. Funny thing is I've been a nit since I joined this game a couple of years ago and was probably a nit when I played the first time around so a guy whos only played for 1 country ever is a spy. And Im not even in a squad, Go figure. Too bad we cant all just sit back and enjoy the game,
                             ESU
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: dedalos on December 22, 2008, 11:46:18 PM
man, I am surprised that "double spy" dedalos has not commented yet.this is right up his forte



signed:
SECRET AGENT MAN  :devil

Well, I waited and waited for some one to mention Agent so I could bring all of you in but it did not happen and then got busy at work.  Don't worry.  Give it a day or two and a new thread will start  :rofl
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: drdeathx on December 23, 2008, 02:15:19 AM
(http://i435.photobucket.com/albums/qq77/AAdeath/Spies_Like_Us.jpg)
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Oldman731 on December 23, 2008, 07:47:24 AM
30 guys beaten by 2 or 3 suicidal people..

Try as I might, I just can't muster any sympathy for people on the big end of 15-1 odds.

- oldman
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Getback on December 23, 2008, 08:49:58 AM
Fugitive,

We ran and busted a ton of noe missions yesterday. I like NOE missions and I like what the Rolling Thunder call In-Your-Face missions. We ran those too. As I have posted before and RT members will tell you when we come in at alt, maybe 7 or 8k, there is not much of a fight. I have seen full con dar bars disappear before us. So NOE or In-Your-Face almost doesn't matter as far as fights are concerned. As I use to half jokingly say "Where can I find an unfair fight"? And that is what people are really looking for in mho. Not all of course but many. Go to DA Fuball Lake. That tells it all.

Title: Re: Spying
Post by: bongaroo on December 23, 2008, 09:02:24 AM
RT thinks highly of itself and it's land grab is all I'm getting outta this thread anymore.   :rolleyes:



That and an awesome reminder to go watch Spies Like Us again.  What a good movie.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: bmwgs on December 23, 2008, 09:35:22 AM
RT thinks highly of itself and it's land grab is all I'm getting outta this thread anymore.   :rolleyes:



I guess we are suppose to think lowly of ourselves.   :noid

Fred
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: iTunes on December 23, 2008, 09:52:35 AM
Wow, seven pages of spying so far, could this be the topic that finally sends the "perk the LA7 and Spit16" threds to number 2? Or maybe the "arena caps" could make number 1?
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Getback on December 23, 2008, 11:29:01 AM
RT thinks highly of itself and it's land grab is all I'm getting outta this thread anymore.   :rolleyes:



That and an awesome reminder to go watch Spies Like Us again.  What a good movie.

 :rofl :rofl Wow, did you take that wrong. It was actually Ghi running most of the missions yesterday and the day before. My reply was a response to what Fugitive was saying about base taking was to promote fights.

When I think about it though BMW is right are we suppose to think lowly of ourselves. Besides there was no boasting in my post.

As a reminder to you about land grabbing. Last Tuesday RT just did fighter sweeps only. That was just the mood we were in. The only ones land grabbing were the rooks on the west coast and the knits on the east coast. Did you tell them to stop?
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: B4Buster on December 23, 2008, 11:47:47 AM
wtg on an 8 page thread elite spy catcher Kamando
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: 007Rusty on December 23, 2008, 11:48:48 AM
 :noid
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Shuffler on December 23, 2008, 12:36:43 PM
lol
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: thndregg on December 23, 2008, 01:24:14 PM
I run NOE's, Jug missions, bomber missions.. Variety is good.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: BMV1995 on December 23, 2008, 02:11:19 PM
i spy sometimes although just for myself :aok
so i can start a lonely ...... TORPEDO RUN!!!!!!! :rock :rock :rock
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: moot on December 23, 2008, 02:20:21 PM
Damn!  Busted again.  I flew for two countries the other night myself too.  I was really curious to see where I'd been from the other side!  And my squad?  Well those old 80th guys can't figure out what country there in most of the time so we have to send different pilots to different countries looking for ourselves.  We're gonna all meet in the same place one day though, so watch out!
Stone. COLD. BUSTED!!1  :O
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: bongaroo on December 23, 2008, 02:21:46 PM
Stone. COLD. BUSTED!!1  :O

ROX...whoops, I mean I see what you did there.   :rofl
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: The Fugitive on December 23, 2008, 05:23:03 PM
Fugitive,

We ran and busted a ton of noe missions yesterday. I like NOE missions and I like what the Rolling Thunder call In-Your-Face missions. We ran those too. As I have posted before and RT members will tell you when we come in at alt, maybe 7 or 8k, there is not much of a fight. I have seen full con dar bars disappear before us. So NOE or In-Your-Face almost doesn't matter as far as fights are concerned. As I use to half jokingly say "Where can I find an unfair fight"? And that is what people are really looking for in mho. Not all of course but many. Go to DA Fuball Lake. That tells it all.



I wasn't picking on RT or any other squad, but you have made my point, nobody wants to work for it any more. People won't defend, people run away. Not saying this was the case, but maybe your squad was coming in with 25+ guys to take a base. First off, thats NOT a mission, it's a horde, again, taking the easy way. If your squad/mission draws that many people assign a second in command, split the wing and attack two bases at once. It might be a bit harder, but that would make it more rewarding should you take both. It may also draw defended that won't get so discouraged because they are so out numbered. Bring the fun back to the game, don't just pound it out of it.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Becinhu on December 23, 2008, 06:25:19 PM
perhaps some members of a squad just want to kill some squaddies. It's a great stress reliever, especially when someone has been annoying on vox.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Getback on December 23, 2008, 07:34:00 PM
I wasn't picking on RT or any other squad, but you have made my point, nobody wants to work for it any more. People won't defend, people run away. Not saying this was the case, but maybe your squad was coming in with 25+ guys to take a base. First off, thats NOT a mission, it's a horde, again, taking the easy way. If your squad/mission draws that many people assign a second in command, split the wing and attack two bases at once. It might be a bit harder, but that would make it more rewarding should you take both. It may also draw defended that won't get so discouraged because they are so out numbered. Bring the fun back to the game, don't just pound it out of it.

Well then we're on the same page.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: TwentyFo on December 23, 2008, 07:43:28 PM
Anyone have the screenshot of DadsGuns (Rollling Thunder) switching sides to spy? I used to have it, but I deleted it when I re-downloaded the game.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Bronk on December 23, 2008, 08:36:30 PM
Anyone have the screenshot of DadsGuns (Rollling Thunder) switching sides to spy? I used to have it, but I deleted it when I re-downloaded the game.
Just when I thought you had no saving grace... you go and do this.
 :lol
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Dadsguns on December 23, 2008, 09:04:25 PM
Anyone have the screenshot of DadsGuns (Rollling Thunder) switching sides to spy? I used to have it, but I deleted it when I re-downloaded the game.

You mean when you got rid of your shade......

Must have been that time I went looking for my CV that you stole and hiding in the corner of the map... was it that time, or was it the time.... or the time you told me where it was in the corner of the map,,,,,,, :rolleyes:

Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Getback on December 23, 2008, 11:32:56 PM
Anyone have the screenshot of DadsGuns (Rollling Thunder) switching sides to spy? I used to have it, but I deleted it when I re-downloaded the game.

Your history isn't so pristene 24. Didn't you say you let Ginger44 shoot you down 56 times to help his squad score? Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: bmwgs on December 23, 2008, 11:38:59 PM
Just when I thought you had no saving grace... you go and do this.
 :lol

Should bring out some (well maybe not so ) good responses.  Makes my night at work go faster.. :)

Fred
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Delirium on December 23, 2008, 11:40:58 PM
This thread is a gift that keeps on giving...

I'm not sure what is more funny, the airing of the shame or the drama in the delivery.

edit:

Should bring out some (well maybe not so ) good responses.  Makes my night at work go faster..

Agreed, it is nice entertainment for work.

Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Bruv119 on December 24, 2008, 12:38:11 AM
On the subject of spying I do hope Mr Jumper gets a tinfoil hat for xmas.  If squaddies swap when I'm not around and happen to be rook when I take off as a knight and I proceed to kill Bish players.  Whilst talking down your rantings how can I possibly have enough fingers to Spy and feed them information.  :noid

Then when the nit population call you crazy and to not insult my genius you still carry on talking.  Can't wait to kill ya when we are no longer Knights.

Oh and merry xmas everyone!
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Getback on December 24, 2008, 12:40:25 AM
On the subject of spying I do hope Mr Jumper gets a tinfoil hat for xmas.  If squaddies swap when I'm not around and happen to be rook when I take off as a knight and I proceed to kill Bish players.  Whilst talking down your rantings how can I possibly have enough fingers to Spy and feed them information.  :noid

Then when the nit population call you crazy and to not insult my genius you still carry on talking.  Can't wait to kill ya when we are no longer Knights.

Oh and merry xmas everyone!

Okay, I hear the eggnogg talking  :rofl :salute
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Kamando on December 24, 2008, 08:29:38 AM
wtg on an 8 page thread elite spy catcher Kamando
Wtg Town Idiot for keeping the thread going with your worthless dribble. 
Once this pile of shiite was on scene, all the other flies and maggots get attracted.
Way to go turning this thread into a joke like you!
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Twizzty on December 24, 2008, 08:39:48 AM
Wtg Town Idiot for keeping the thread going with your worthless dribble. 
Once this pile of shiite was on scene, all the other flies and maggots get attracted.
Way to go turning this thread into a joke like you!

 :rofl

Only joke was starting this thread...what did you think was going to happen?  :aok
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: waystin2 on December 24, 2008, 08:52:29 AM
I just had to get in.  I smell a lock before too long.  Merry Christmas AH'ers!!!
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: B4Buster on December 24, 2008, 09:12:05 AM
I was all excited to get on the forums this morning and see how this thread progressed  :lol
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Getback on December 24, 2008, 09:45:50 AM
I just had to get in.  I smell a lock before too long.  Merry Christmas AH'ers!!!

Me too!
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: The Fugitive on December 24, 2008, 09:52:34 AM
I was all excited to get on the forums this morning and see how this thread progressed  :lol

Me too!

I think you both need to "get a life!"   :D
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Getback on December 24, 2008, 09:55:01 AM
I think you both need to "get a life!"   :D

Don't we all!
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: B4Buster on December 24, 2008, 10:27:47 AM
I think you both need to "get a life!"   :D

It's christmas, nothing better to do!
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: stodd on December 24, 2008, 10:42:17 AM
I was all excited to get on the forums this morning and see how this thread progressed  :lol
:rofl Same.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: LLogann on December 24, 2008, 10:43:05 AM
Peace on Earth maybe even!!!
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: dedalos on December 24, 2008, 10:47:51 AM
Some one please find that thread about Zazen stealing a CV and killing it.  We can take this to 1000 pages, wooooohooooooo
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Getback on December 24, 2008, 11:18:21 AM
Lots of pent up emotion on this subject I think.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Fugita on December 24, 2008, 11:37:45 AM
 :noid you're all being watched  :noid
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Dadsguns on December 24, 2008, 11:38:20 AM
Lots of pent up
speculation on this subject I think.

 ;)
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: waystin2 on December 24, 2008, 12:24:23 PM
Peace on Earth maybe even!!!

Then exit stage left? :rofl

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Title: Re: Spying
Post by: demondog on November 23, 2010, 08:55:28 PM
It's no secret some squads were sending members to sit in the shore battery as they were attacking a base. It's obvisious when the shore battery isn't firing and the cv is right in front of the shore battery. When you fly by the shore battery and figure out who's name is popping up on your radio, then see their squad is attacking the base..lol Like Sigmund Frued once said, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Tec on November 23, 2010, 09:04:07 PM
Here come the lame bellybutton bump pics.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: lyric1 on November 23, 2010, 09:05:22 PM
It's no secret some squads were sending members to sit in the shore battery as they were attacking a base. It's obvisious when the shore battery isn't firing and the cv is right in front of the shore battery. When you fly by the shore battery and figure out who's name is popping up on your radio, then see their squad is attacking the base..lol Like Sigmund Frued once said, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."
Should have just filmed it & sent it in. Nice first post as well. :lol
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: thndregg on November 23, 2010, 09:14:37 PM
It's no secret some squads were sending members to sit in the shore battery as they were attacking a base. It's obvisious when the shore battery isn't firing and the cv is right in front of the shore battery. When you fly by the shore battery and figure out who's name is popping up on your radio, then see their squad is attacking the base..lol Like Sigmund Frued once said, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."

The BBS rules are present, yet you persist. :huh
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: oakranger on November 23, 2010, 09:33:25 PM
Should have just filmed it & sent it in.

I agree!  +1
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: The Fugitive on November 23, 2010, 09:39:01 PM
WOW!!! starting out his BBS career on a high note here !..... oh and IN  :D
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Ack-Ack on November 23, 2010, 09:44:36 PM
It's no secret some squads were sending members to sit in the shore battery as they were attacking a base. It's obvisious when the shore battery isn't firing and the cv is right in front of the shore battery. When you fly by the shore battery and figure out who's name is popping up on your radio, then see their squad is attacking the base..lol Like Sigmund Frued once said, "Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."

Yep, those people are the worst.  I mean, it's not like the person accusing the guy in the shore battery is mistaken, the guy in the SB has to be a spy!

Here come the lame bellybutton bump pics.

As you wish...

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ack-ack
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: 321BAR on November 23, 2010, 10:57:31 PM
Yep, those people are the worst.  I mean, it's not like the person accusing the guy in the shore battery is mistaken, the guy in the SB has to be a spy!

As you wish...

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ack-ack
classic :rofl
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: AWwrgwy on November 23, 2010, 11:06:48 PM
Here come the lame bellybutton bump pics.

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Lame enough?



wrongway
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: waystin2 on November 23, 2010, 11:54:30 PM
Here come the lame bellybutton bump pics.
:D
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Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Tec on November 24, 2010, 12:07:25 AM
There it is.  This thread can die now lol.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: perdue3 on November 24, 2010, 12:17:18 AM
Sorry I was late to this thread. Long live Sacred Slimebag Spy Unit.


dweeb, per dweeb
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: BrownBaron on November 24, 2010, 01:45:12 AM
There it is.  This thread can die now lol.

One more, to provide a nice foil post to which the lameness of all supersequent posts can be compared.   :aok

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Title: Re: Spying
Post by: IrishOne on November 24, 2010, 06:24:07 AM
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Title: Re: Spying
Post by: B4Buster on November 24, 2010, 09:23:31 AM
Wow! I don't even remember posting in this topic. Nice bump.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: betty on November 24, 2010, 11:31:02 AM
Killuminati sometimes has people on different countries but its not because we are spies, its because some of us just like to fly with other people from time to time and we don't mind switching sides, its actually fun to fly with or against people u have either flown against or with. to be honest i love to beat up on my squadies from time to time :)
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: 321BAR on November 24, 2010, 11:32:40 AM
Killuminati sometimes has people on different countries but its not because we are spies, its because some of us just like to fly with other people from time to time and we don't mind switching sides, its actually fun to fly with or against people u have either flown against or with. to be honest i love to beat up on my squadies from time to time :)
this reminds me betty... when are you going to kill me and my P51B? :D
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: betty on November 24, 2010, 12:03:21 PM
this reminds me betty... when are you going to kill me and my P51B? :D

tonight bar, me and u....lets go! :)

i'll be on tonight  :)
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: 321BAR on November 24, 2010, 12:06:06 PM
tonight bar, me and u....lets go! :)

i'll be on tonight  :)
ill be on :t your tiffy my pony.
Title: Re: Spying
Post by: Tec on November 24, 2010, 12:40:47 PM
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Randy Bo Bandy WOOOOWOOOOOO!