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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: CAVPFCDD on January 04, 2009, 09:50:04 PM
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So who was in the blue arena tonight....
178 bish 186 rooks 78 knights
i can stand the 20 or 30 man difference, seems the knights are always down by some, but 100+, yeah it was nice to have cheap 262's and all that, but it just was not fun
this shouldn't happen anymore... tonight was just miserable, i just left after a little while, couldn't take it :cry
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So who was in the blue arena tonight....
178 bish 186 rooks 78 knights
i can stand the 20 or 30 man difference, seems the knights are always down by some, but 100+, yeah it was nice to have cheap 262's and all that, but it just was not fun
this shouldn't happen anymore... tonight was just miserable, i just left after a little while, couldn't take it :cry
What were seeing is the natural evolution of the game. Since skill and fair play are no longer relevant newer players are gravitating to the sides with the hoard. All you need to do is look at recent threads and read comments from various members of the "new breed" squads and things are remarkably clear. We are moving closer and closer to a max exodus of seasoned players. Hopefully some alternative format will be raised. Personally I'd like to see a tactical arena with limited strategic capability. Recognizing that we have a tremendous # of players that are interested in a more "realistic" game I'd also love to see an arena modeled after the current main arena's but with 1 life per day in each class (bomber, fighter, GV). That way you would an arena where those issues mattered.
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Humble you bring a valid point to this thread , and something should be done to at least close the gap . And I have read alot of forums pages where players say they gravitate to the smallest side , well where are those guys when you need them . Being a knight these days is a hard road to go down . But sometimes at around 6.30 or 7.00 pm Knights have gotten some numbers and it will hold for a few hours . But really it can make a guy just log .
Nutte :(
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knights had #s in orange..i enjoyed the 2.5 perk bonus on the bish side all night
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this shouldn't happen anymore... tonight was just miserable, i just left after a little while, couldn't take it :cry
I logged in to find blue capped at 400/406. I went into orange, flew as a knight, had some fun. Knights had numbers on the roster, to the point that I had to wait around for a minute to take my 20 ENY P-38J out for another sortie. Not only are these things are cyclical, but with multiple arenas the numbers balance is usually different within each of them.
Sorry, but I don't see doomsday in this topic.
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Yet in this same time period, 40 or so people showed up for a strategic fight in SNS.
Formats are in place, if people don't use them that's really not HTC or event designers problem.
How about you all start overflowing the scenarios, FSO, Snapshots and such, then we'll run more of them. What you guys want is available, but we can't force you to play there.
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I logged in to find blue capped at 400/406. I went into orange, flew as a knight, had some fun. Knights had numbers on the roster, to the point that I had to wait around for a minute to take my 20 ENY P-38J out for another sortie. Not only are these things are cyclical, but with multiple arenas the numbers balance is usually different within each of them.
Sorry, but I don't see doomsday in this topic.
i'm just saying that no matter what side you're on, it shouldn't ever get that lopsided, that was the most i've seen and it just was not enjoyable
could i have gone to another arena, yes, but I just got so fed up with that one it made me call it a night with the AH, it was just frustrating.
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I logged in to find blue capped at 400/406. I went into orange, flew as a knight, had some fun. Knights had numbers on the roster, to the point that I had to wait around for a minute to take my 20 ENY P-38J out for another sortie. Not only are these things are cyclical, but with multiple arenas the numbers balance is usually different within each of them.
Sorry, but I don't see doomsday in this topic.
Well you have a scenario where an imbalance exists almost all the time in both arenas. Players leave one to go to the other enhancing the problem. Players locked out of the "good" arena are more and more likely to log. Personally I think that any side in an arena should be capped. If the limit is 450 then each side should have a 150 player max...
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i'm just saying that no matter what side you're on, it shouldn't ever get that lopsided, that was the most i've seen and it just was not enjoyable
could i have gone to another arena, yes, but I just got so fed up with that one it made me call it a night with the AH, it was just frustrating.
I've seen worse. I'd actually expect to see numbers like that when one country is down to a few fields and the other two are fighting over who will win the reset.
I'd have went to Blue had it not been capped. The only reason being that high numbers in Blue indicate a good map is there. To me that is a valid gripe with the current arena cap system. If an arena is both capped and very unbalanced, the cap effectively locks those conditions in place. I cant see the harm in allowing existing low numbered countrymen to get into a capped arena when it goes X out of balance. But that's up to HTC if they'd consider modifying something like that.
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I like the idea Murdr, as far as the Knights being outnumbered its because we lost the Claim Jumpers, they went rook and we lost the horde but they were fun killing when they ran a mission against the knights. BTW POTW does the same thing with half the people I challenge you to the DA 10v10 :rock
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Knights are rolling bases in blue right now. I think they may be on to us after 5 takes in an hour.
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What were seeing is the natural evolution of the game. Since skill and fair play are no longer relevant newer players are gravitating to the sides with the hoard. All you need to do is look at recent threads and read comments from various members of the "new breed" squads and things are remarkably clear. We are moving closer and closer to a max exodus of seasoned players. Hopefully some alternative format will be raised. Personally I'd like to see a tactical arena with limited strategic capability. Recognizing that we have a tremendous # of players that are interested in a more "realistic" game I'd also love to see an arena modeled after the current main arena's but with 1 life per day in each class (bomber, fighter, GV). That way you would an arena where those issues mattered.
well....the 1 life per day thing is a bit harsh, but i do see yur point. i think that possibly, rather than that, since guys like that are only after points, then take away any and all points. if you die on a mission, then 0 for everything. nothing. no perks, no hit% points, no kill points on anything you killed....nothing. basically, if you die, your score doesn't change..unless youi had a perk ride, then of course you lose those points.
just knowing there'd be no points for those 5 kills, would cause the score potatos to fight a bit more realistically.
me....i'd still turnfight whenever i can.....especially against folks like you, as they're always good clean fight.
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Knights are rolling bases in blue right now. I think they may be on to us after 5 takes in an hour.
LOL Rooks logged and Bish and Knights are fairly even. So no need for the long face :rofl :rofl
However, I sure understand what Knights are saying. At one time the Rooks were almost to Knights HQ and Bishops were stealing bases left and right. Still though I thought the knights fought with ferocity.
Just seems those truces don't last long enough.
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Yeah knights were down to 5 bases at about 10pm EST. I quit at about 3 am... and we have all but 2 of our starting bases plus a few rook. I got 25perks for one bomber capture and 22 perks for one m3 capture. I think you should have stuck around Cav. Also had one fighter sortie with 5 kills and got something like 25 perks.....tonight was better than wining the war. Oh and another 6 kill sortie in a panzer worth about 20 perks...it was a good night!
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Cav you missed an awsome come back. We did it with out NOE bishway and without the Rookhorde. Did it the old fasioned way. Upped bombers and killed everything. Of course had to listen to the vulchers cry but some of those bases it was necessary. For some reason though Knights tend to leave if they get shot down and don't try enough. I flew to three bases in Lancs in one sortie with Gigity. We took a Vbase small field and Port in less than half hour I think. I was upset that I didn't jump in on the perk advantage but I was sick of only having my arse whooped.
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So who was in the blue arena tonight....
178 bish 186 rooks 78 knights
i can stand the 20 or 30 man difference, seems the knights are always down by some, but 100+, yeah it was nice to have cheap 262's and all that, but it just was not fun
this shouldn't happen anymore... tonight was just miserable, i just left after a little while, couldn't take it :cry
CAVPFCDD
It was an unusual blip for arena stats. Here's what happened over the weekend to explain why. Some consider the orange arena the main arena of the 2 MA's... correct? In that it's first on the log in list therefore the most populated on any given day. Blue arena tends to be less populated because "OFF PEAK" orange gets the numbers which fuels the arena cap....you get the point....?
Friday both Knights and Bishops (this isn't a whinge...just explaining) hammered on the Rooks. Rooks just had a hard time and and Bishops got their 40% of Rook bases. Knights were close to their 40% of Rook bases.
Saturday both Knights and Bishops were still hammering on Rooks front door in Orange arena, but the Bishops turned their attention on the Knights for the 40% to win reset. Meanwhile Knights were still going at Rooks... not much noticing the Bishop roll to reset. Hence Bishop reset on Knights in orange Saturday evening.
When Orange arena reset the new terrain was what I consider a crap map (Pink and white :uhoh). You should have heard us Rooks going "oh ffs" as we logged into the new terrain. Alot of the Bishops went to Blue to try and reset that. Alot of Rooks went to Blue because frankly the new map was crap....and to stop the Bishops in blue.
Sunday...the day that gave Knights in Blue the grief we witnessed Bishop and Rook Exodus from Orange to Blue arena. This was partly due to the fact Blue had the most numbers in it from "off peak"...from the get go. Also orange terrain isn't popular.
I could be wrong here but I think some of the Bishops had squad night fueling Bishop numbers. I first noticed arena numbers going lob sided with Bishops 146 Rooks 92 Knight 67. One could only imagine quite the reverse in Orange...bet Knights in orange were ENY'ed.
The part that I really sympathise with you is when Rooks also started hammering you Knights late evening. Knights had had a hard day anyways but I could see the valiant fight they put up against Bishop. Knights holding their own terrain. Shame some of our Rooks tuck the option of sneaking your back door when you were too busy after you started to lose Home bases....but hey...what goes around comes around. Some of us Rooks were saying to leave the knights alone because Bishops were in our home land and really going for it. Seemed stupid to me to take Knight bases when we were losing home bases.
The effect was Bishops were ENY'ed for their numbers in Blue very early on and when some of the Knights got pissed off and left, Rooks also got ENY'ed. Later that evening Rooks had the most numbers but only by 10 or 15 over the Bishops. Meanwhile you Knights were still below 100 to bishop 160..something and rooks 170..something when I logged for the evening.
That's the reason for the unusual blip CAVPFCDD. Obviously you can ignore what I've said but it's a fair assessment. I could say to you Knights to learn something from the debacle on Friday and Saturday in Orange arena which caused this unusual blip. I could say watch your back door when Bishops are rolling the map. I could say when you Knights sneak our back door when we're busy with Bishops roll don't be surprised if some Rooks take the opportunity, all be it tactical suicide, to sneak your back door. I could say don't be surprised by the revenge or the path of least resistance from the Rooks who we tried to call off from attacking you.
Do I expect anyone person or anyone side to learn or deduce anything from the weekends play......not a chance.
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this is one of my big problems with arena caps - the inbalance can become locked into that arena. and when its started the caps just make it worse - as people log, more people log in and see the inbalance. at best 1 in 10 will consider being massively outnumbered a challenge, the others will log straight away and their places taken by the big number sides, making the inbalance progressively worse. :(
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So who was in the blue arena tonight....
178 bish 186 rooks 78 knights
i can stand the 20 or 30 man difference, seems the knights are always down by some, but 100+, yeah it was nice to have cheap 262's and all that, but it just was not fun
this shouldn't happen anymore... tonight was just miserable, i just left after a little while, couldn't take it :cry
It wasn't exactly peak hours that I was on, but too much was happening against the Bish at the hands of the Rooks in LWO that Bish had niether the numbers or the inclination to pork the Rooks to a standstill. I logged and popped into Mid-war, which at that time had the opposite problem, too little going on. Pretty dry.
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The eny used to really get under my skin, but anymore not so much. I fly the P51D mostly but enjoy the P51B probably more to tell the truth. If the ENY gets over 20 I'll hop in a P40 or a p47D11 or 25.
The only real complaint I have with the ENY is being ganged by a dozen spit16s. So I usually have to go into pick mode and fight the urge to just dive in a mix it up. If I don't want to dogfight I'll up bombers and pork troops, ord and dar.
There's always fun to be had no matter what the ENY is. You ever seen the perk points you get for a spit16 and LA7 kill with a P40? :lol :salute
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Most of the folks who will switch sides to lower number teams are the seasoned players. They generally tend to affect game play more from their experienced flying. So in the end it is kind of a wash IMHO. More folks or more experience.....
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You guys are either confused or are not telling the truth. We all know that the split of the arenas and ENY have solved those issues a long time go :aok
Move on :lol
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We all know that the split of the arenas and ENY have solved those issues a long time go :aok
I thought similar. It certainly proved out well.
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So who was in the blue arena tonight....
178 bish 186 rooks 78 knights
i can stand the 20 or 30 man difference, seems the knights are always down by some, but 100+, yeah it was nice to have cheap 262's and all that, but it just was not fun
this shouldn't happen anymore... tonight was just miserable, i just left after a little while, couldn't take it :cry
CAVPFCDD or any Knights reading this I do hope you've read my post above so you don't take the following as Knight bashing. It's an observation just like my previous post and nothing meant in malice.
On any given day Rooks consider Bishops to be our biggest threat. They have numbers, squad organisation, very "mission" based and have plenty of "gamey suiciders" to do the dirty. They also have leadership.
Rooks consider Knights our least threat. You lack numbers, you lack organisation and above all you lack leadership. I get the impression you knights are more squad based rather than country bases. To clarify what I just said you knights would rather fight as individual squads rather than pull together as a country team. That's the impression I get.
What would interest me is who you think Knights biggest threat is...Rooks or Bishope and why?
I would wager Bishops consider Rooks their biggest threat and Knights their least threat. You'll have to ask a Bishop as to why but don't be surprised if they give a very similar answere.
So!......getting to the point of this post, having read every post in this thread, I was somewhat intrigued by a statement by Getback to the Knights.
Just seems those truces don't last long enough
I can only hypothesize as to it's actual meaning in real terms. It's a 2 case scenario but if it's what I consider to be the worst of the 2, then you got everything you deserved over the weekend.
To cause no ambiguity. In the quote above lise the implication that some kind of "TRUCE" between Bishop and Knights was arranged. I could well be jumping to the wrong conclusion and you could see me as being somewhat :noid but let me say this. By drawing up "truces" you are helping Bishops win. You are infact fighting for the Bishop reset because once Bishop have their 40% of Rook bases they must then look to Knights for the other 40% to reset.
The knights having helped Bishop by dividing the Rooks into a two front defence are now in the exact same situation as the Rooks were when the Bishops turn ugly. Frankly and I'm not being boastful or Knight bashing but the Knights lack the ability to hold captured Rook bases i.e 40% and then defend against Bishops roll. Further more Knights are deluded if they think they can hold 40% of Rook bases and then take 40% of Bishop bases.
If my conclusion from that 1 line by Getback is correct and I'm not all :noid This is what I meant when I said you got everything you deserved. If I am correct you may want to take issue with those within Knights pulling the strings that's turned you into a Bishop puppet.
Please get back to me with your thoughts........Have a good day :huh
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Well broken down by LYNX. That's exactly what happened.
LTARecon
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What would interest me is who you think Knights biggest threat is...Rooks or Bishope and why?
hmm no difference as far as i can tell. we sometimes have a real problem dealing with Rooks and Bishops tho :)
edit: just noticed "those within Knights pulling the strings". I guess we dont really have any. ROX did try to do some coordination a while back but got slammed by almost everyone for doing what the Bish/Rooks do pretty regularly, not surprising that noone fancies the job really...
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Recognizing that we have a tremendous # of players that are interested in a more "realistic" game I'd also love to see an arena modeled after the current main arena's but with 1 life per day in each class (bomber, fighter, GV). That way you would an arena where those issues mattered.
Whose desires this sort "realism in this game?
My idea of "more realistic" would be some kind of fight to go on besides base offense/defense in the weeds...like high altitude escort/interception.
As far as the map-moving aspect goes...does anyone really care all that much? You can usually have more fun and get more kills when the other teams have numbers and are on the offensive than the other way around.
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I'd also love to see an arena modeled after the current main arena's but with 1 life per day in each class (bomber, fighter, GV). That way you would an arena where those issues mattered.
since guys like that are only after points, then take away any and all points. if you die on a mission, then 0 for everything. nothing. no perks, no hit% points, no kill points on anything you killed....nothing. basically, if you die, your score doesn't change..unless youi had a perk ride, then of course you lose those points.
just knowing there'd be no points for those 5 kills, would cause the score potatos to fight a bit more realistically.
Watch what you wish for ... IMHO, those conditions would promote MORE timidity than we already have, instead of encouraging people to engage.
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What were seeing is the natural evolution of the game. Since skill and fair play are no longer relevant newer players are gravitating to the sides with the hoard. All you need to do is look at recent threads and read comments from various members of the "new breed" squads and things are remarkably clear. We are moving closer and closer to a max exodus of seasoned players. Hopefully some alternative format will be raised. Personally I'd like to see a tactical arena with limited strategic capability. Recognizing that we have a tremendous # of players that are interested in a more "realistic" game I'd also love to see an arena modeled after the current main arena's but with 1 life per day in each class (bomber, fighter, GV). That way you would an arena where those issues mattered.
Although you make a valid point about some graviton to hoard side this isn't what happened in Blue arena over the weekend.
Please read my first post above for the real explanation of this weekends lob sided arena stats.
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Well broken down by LYNX. That's exactly what happened.
LTARecon
So I'm not all :noid then.
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So I'm not all :noid then.
Nope, not this time anyway.
Here's my thought on the matter. I think when Knights and Rooks made that truce there were really only about 20% - 30% of the Rooks in favor and probably the same for the Knights.(Just a guess on the %) Then once to a new map a backlash occurred by those Knights and Rooks not in favor of the truce. So now you have those who disagree fighting each other to sort of wash it away so to speak or at least voice their opinion with action.
I never responded to the posts telling of the truce for 2 reasons. One, I wanted to see it played out. I flew Rooks for 4 or 5 years and I know that many would disagree with that tactic. Two, I know some of those guys involved and think well of them. They've been very helpful on the boards. I didn't want to damage that relationship for what "I" think is wrong.
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What would interest me is who you think Knights biggest threat is...Rooks or Bishope and why?
Hello Lynx,
Both Bishop & Rook have their tendencies and good qualities, but if I have to render judgement I would have to say the Rooks are the largest threat. A lot of skilled folks in the air & on the ground, a few hordes, base taking ability, and a tendency to up the altitude ante all contribute to the Rooks success. So my perception is that battling the Rooks is considered a more onerous task by the Knights as compared to battling the Bishop.
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Way
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Lynx I know you're not bashing the knights, and that was a very thorough explination, thank you
For those of you talking about truces, the only truce that i saw last night, was the rooks and the bish
there was one point where one rook base and two bish bases were flashing, while practically every knight base and the hq were flashing...
there was some fighting between the two, but it didn't look like much at all while i was on
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Man i must be out of the loop. Didnt know stuff like this went on
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LYNX :salute
You have my utmost respect...although please look at most weekdays and see a ever growing trend of 166/110/68, it's not just the weekends.
I have months worth of hugely lopsided roster number screenshots, but would just be eye pollution to post them all. The fact that a number of squads either rotated bish or just plain defected bish has even inflamed the problem.
One LW arena is usually 50 to 70 advantage (bish) and the other LW arena is 50 to 70 advantage (rooks).
It's really no fun for 25 or 30 guys to attempt to defend a front against that amount--then the 50 to 70 on top of that night after night after night. Most I know have either signed off in frustration or cancelled their accounts. The latter is getting far more prevallent from the emails I am getting.
ROX
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Nope, not this time anyway.
Here's my thought on the matter. I think when Knights and Rooks made that truce there were really only about 20% - 30% of the Rooks in favor and probably the same for the Knights.(Just a guess on the %) Then once to a new map a backlash occurred by those Knights and Rooks not in favor of the truce. So now you have those who disagree fighting each other to sort of wash it away so to speak or at least voice their opinion with action.
I never responded to the posts telling of the truce for 2 reasons. One, I wanted to see it played out. I flew Rooks for 4 or 5 years and I know that many would disagree with that tactic. Two, I know some of those guys involved and think well of them. They've been very helpful on the boards. I didn't want to damage that relationship for what "I" think is wrong.
Ekkk :huh Now I really am :noid
I'm not getting any of your post. I don't understand it or what you are trying to say here. When I quoted you from THIS thread in this post......
LOL Rooks logged and Bish and Knights are fairly even. So no need for the long face.
However, I sure understand what Knights are saying. At one time the Rooks were almost to Knights HQ and Bishops were stealing bases left and right. Still though I thought the knights fought with ferocity.
Just seems those truces don't last long enough.
I was reading that as though you were inferring your side...Bishops, had entered into a truce with the Knights over the weekend.
However, from your post quoted at the top you in turn seem to think there was some kind of Knight / Rook truce. I can assure you 100% that to my knowledge no such thing happened. There was no country chat about a truce. There was no objections to Rooks fighting the nights Friday, Saturday or Sunday. The only objections to knights getting hit was from a few others and myself when Knights were on their knee's numbers wise late Sunday evening. When Bishops were hard on our tail in our home land. It was tactical suicide to go after Knights and let Bishope run down our east flank in the Blue arena.
I read nearly every thread here so this part confuses me I never responded to the posts telling of the truce
I would appreciate some clarity on this matter. What Knight / Rook truce are you talking about because I don't know of any and defiantly haven't read a post to support what your saying.
Once again....when I quoted you I read that as though the Bishops and Knights were in cahoots.
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All you need to do is look at recent threads and read comments from various members of the "new breed" squads and things are remarkably clear.
We are moving closer and closer to a max exodus of seasoned players.
Hopefully some alternative format will be raised. Personally I'd like to see a tactical arena with limited strategic capability.
Recognizing that we have a tremendous # of players that are interested in a more "realistic" game I'd also love to see an arena modeled after the current main arena's but with 1 life per day in each class (bomber, fighter, GV). That way you would an arena where those issues mattered.
Maybe not one life but pay for those lives with perkies
A special arena was set up by one of the CM guys...I'll look for that post.
Found it! http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,251785.msg3104491.html#msg3104491
The idea here (mine, rosco, guppy and the DFC) was to promote and highlight true air combat and reintroduce a bit of the "old school" rules and remove some of the controls like kill shooter that only exist because the standard of game play is so low. Having friendly collisions on was interesting as well IMO. The sprinkling of DFC guys not only added a formidable array of pilots but also helped to both teach and enforce the "code" as needed. It will be up to Rosco to determine if this becomes any type of a recurring event or not .
I support this idea and really all we need to do it ask for it in a group mailing or bother them with calls. Posting on the boards is just not going to get it and stay away from the wish list as it seems only on occasion is it visited by HTC.
I'll gladly give my email address to be notified when to call or email HTC as a group and stay on top of a worthy request like this and follow it's progression.
IN FACT, I'll start right now by PM'ing you my addy.
If it looks like it will begin to take off I'll open my contact list.
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Lynx I know you're not bashing the knights, and that was a very thorough explination, thank you
For those of you talking about truces, the only truce that i saw last night, was the rooks and the bish
there was one point where one rook base and two bish bases were flashing, while practically every knight base and the hq were flashing...
there was some fighting between the two, but it didn't look like much at all while i was on
Thanks for that. I can assure you the Rooks were hard at work against the Bish in LWB up untill I logged out nearly 3AM my time ...that's 10PM east coast. We were consistently defending against Bishop air and Gv attacks. There was no truce.
Once again I was disappointed with Rooks going after the beleaguered Knights who were clearly and unequivocally outnumber. Today has proven it to be the tactical suicide that I tried to explain to those Rooks yesterday......oh well.
by Rox
LYNX
You have my utmost respect...although please look at most weekdays and see a ever growing trend of 166/110/68, it's not just the weekends.
I have months worth of hugely lopsided roster number screenshots, but would just be eye pollution to post them all. The fact that a number of squads either rotated bish or just plain defected bish has even inflamed the problem.
One LW arena is usually 50 to 70 advantage (bish) and the other LW arena is 50 to 70 advantage (rooks).
It's really no fun for 25 or 30 guys to attempt to defend a front against that amount--then the 50 to 70 on top of that night after night after night. Most I know have either signed off in frustration or cancelled their accounts. The latter is getting far more prevallent from the emails I am getting.
It has been my understanding that the Knights have always been outnumbered even before the arena split. However, over the last 8 months or so I have noticed Knights numbers to be near equal in LWO. I can't talk for Blue arena because I've hardly used it.
Sorry to hear the outnumbered trend is returning to the Knights. :frown: and thanks to waystin2 for his response.
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Lynx,
I was referring to the Truce by Knights and Rooks to take a couple of FT bases. It was posted on one of the threads. To be honest I was wondering if I was clear on the matter.
This is a matter that no one should get bogged down on though. Personally I find I enjoy the game more if I don't get bogged down on the BBS but instead move forward and play the game.
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This whole talk of "truces" is a 5 gallon bucket of horse hockey.
I haven't seen any actual, recognizable "truce" in any arena since Air Warrior.
If a few dweebs got on 200 and tried to make a deal on anything it wouldn't make a hill of beans anyway...not that the whole planet coundn't see it on 200.
ROX
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This whole talk of "truces" is a 5 gallon bucket of horse hockey.
I haven't seen any actual, recognizable "truce" in any arena since Air Warrior.
If a few dweebs got on 200 and tried to make a deal on anything it wouldn't make a hill of beans anyway...not that the whole planet coundn't see it on 200.
ROX
I've not played nearly as long as you and can think of at least 2 times I've seen it happen. Take your 5 gallon bucket of horse hockey and have fun!
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There will be no peace until the scourge that is Bishop & Rook is wiped from the virtual worlds of Aces High! :O Whoa, sorry I forgot it is just a game. Apologies... :D
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Lynx,
I was referring to the Truce by Knights and Rooks to take a couple of FT bases. It was posted on one of the threads. To be honest I was wondering if I was clear on the matter.
This is a matter that no one should get bogged down on though. Personally I find I enjoy the game more if I don't get bogged down on the BBS but instead move forward and play the game.
No worries. There was some ambiguity there. I got the wrong end of your stick so's to speak.....my appols.
Personally I haven't seen a thread or a post referring to Truces. I did read a comment from Karaya getting on his high horse about some TT capture that he totally misunderstood. It was a Gv bashing A20 mission if he'd have read the responses to his wailing Saturday night. :lol
Anyways game on.
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This whole talk of "truces" is a 5 gallon bucket of horse hockey.
I haven't seen any actual, recognizable "truce" in any arena since Air Warrior.
If a few dweebs got on 200 and tried to make a deal on anything it wouldn't make a hill of beans anyway...not that the whole planet coundn't see it on 200.
ROX
Yer I understand that now after Getbacks post. So I'll draw everyones attention back to my first post in this thread ......
CAVPFCDD
It was an unusual blip for arena stats. Here's what happened over the weekend to explain why. Some consider the orange arena the main arena of the 2 MA's... correct? In that it's first on the log in list therefore the most populated on any given day. Blue arena tends to be less populated because "OFF PEAK" orange gets the numbers which fuels the arena cap....you get the point....?
Friday both Knights and Bishops (this isn't a whinge...just explaining) hammered on the Rooks. Rooks just had a hard time and and Bishops got their 40% of Rook bases. Knights were close to their 40% of Rook bases.
Saturday both Knights and Bishops were still hammering on Rooks front door in Orange arena, but the Bishops turned their attention on the Knights for the 40% to win reset. Meanwhile Knights were still going at Rooks... not much noticing the Bishop roll to reset. Hence Bishop reset on Knights in orange Saturday evening.
When Orange arena reset the new terrain was what I consider a crap map (Pink and white ). You should have heard us Rooks going "oh ffs" as we logged into the new terrain. Alot of the Bishops went to Blue to try and reset that. Alot of Rooks went to Blue because frankly the new map was crap....and to stop the Bishops in blue.
Sunday...the day that gave Knights in Blue the grief we witnessed Bishop and Rook Exodus from Orange to Blue arena. This was partly due to the fact Blue had the most numbers in it from "off peak"...from the get go. Also orange terrain isn't popular.
I could be wrong here but I think some of the Bishops had squad night fueling Bishop numbers. I first noticed arena numbers going lob sided with Bishops 146 Rooks 92 Knight 67. One could only imagine quite the reverse in Orange...bet Knights in orange were ENY'ed.
The part that I really sympathise with you is when Rooks also started hammering you Knights late evening. Knights had had a hard day anyways but I could see the valiant fight they put up against Bishop. Knights holding their own terrain. Shame some of our Rooks tuck the option of sneaking your back door when you were too busy after you started to lose Home bases....but hey...what goes around comes around. Some of us Rooks were saying to leave the knights alone because Bishops were in our home land and really going for it. Seemed stupid to me to take Knight bases when we were losing home bases.
The effect was Bishops were ENY'ed for their numbers in Blue very early on and when some of the Knights got pissed off and left, Rooks also got ENY'ed. Later that evening Rooks had the most numbers but only by 10 or 15 over the Bishops. Meanwhile you Knights were still below 100 to bishop 160..something and rooks 170..something when I logged for the evening.
That's the reason for the unusual blip CAVPFCDD. Obviously you can ignore what I've said but it's a fair assessment. I could say to you Knights to learn something from the debacle on Friday and Saturday in Orange arena which caused this unusual blip. I could say watch your back door when Bishops are rolling the map. I could say when you Knights sneak our back door when we're busy with Bishops roll don't be surprised if some Rooks take the opportunity, all be it tactical suicide, to sneak your back door. I could say don't be surprised by the revenge or the path of least resistance from the Rooks who we tried to call off from attacking you.
Do I expect anyone person or anyone side to learn or deduce anything from the weekends play......not a chance.
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This whole talk of "truces" is a 5 gallon bucket of horse hockey.
I haven't seen any actual, recognizable "truce" in any arena since Air Warrior.
If a few dweebs got on 200 and tried to make a deal on anything it wouldn't make a hill of beans anyway...not that the whole planet coundn't see it on 200.
ROX
There was a truce not long ago to take back TT island or FT .
Do a search under masherbrun and check some of his last posts. Not sure when it happened but knits and rooks got together to take it back and supposedly neither tried to shoot each other over a hour long period or more. In fact i remember reading something about knits escorting the rooks who took the first base back.
It has happened
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No worries. There was some ambiguity there. I got the wrong end of your stick so's to speak.....my appols.
Personally I haven't seen a thread or a post referring to Truces. I did read a comment from Karaya getting on his high horse about some TT capture that he totally misunderstood. It was a Gv bashing A20 mission if he'd have read the responses to his wailing Saturday night. :lol
Anyways game on.
Heh, no need for apologies. My miscommunication.