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Title: Disgruntled with work
Post by: smkelly13 on January 21, 2009, 12:00:33 PM
I've mentioned that I'm a retail salemen in the "What do you do" thread.  I work at Radio Shack, in northern Michigan.

I was hired in as part-time, expecting to pick up full-time.  What a pipe dream.  I work hard, doing work that no one else seems willing to do i.e shoveling/trash removal/cleaning the men's restroom/sweeping the floor in the back/etc.  Granted, the manager will shovel, which is nice considering he's there 50+ hours a week and seems to really loathe his job and life in general.  He's a hell of a nice guy, great boss, and would be a cool friend, so this negativity is not directed towards him in any way.

I have to commute 45 minutes to get to work, and I don't ask for much.  The only things I've asked for is ONE particular day off a week (Monday) and that I work longer shifts than 3 hours.  I realize that the manager has a boss of his own, and has to follow orders like a good little drone, but it's ridiculous.  I went from averaging 20-28 hours a week (PART-TIME) to 6.30.  I wonder how Radio Shack considers that to be part-time?  I'm guessing the District Manager thinks that human life can be sustained from 6.30 hours in a week at $7.40 an hour?

Sure, we get SPIFFS and commission, but not everyone wants to buy a cell phone or service plan.  It's hard to get commission when the rate needed is ungodly high, especially if you're getting screwed out of working any decent amount of hours. 

I guess I should be thankful that I have a job, and get some time to work, it could be worse, but I wish it was better.

I like my job, it's better then cooking over a hot grill, or being in the service.  It's relatively stress free, but that has changed recently.  If you don't sell a certain amount of product, you face the chance of getting fired.  I guess the big wigs won't recognise the fact that I cannot make someone buy something, and they must not realize that Wal-Mart is in the same plaza.  People don't want to buy the outrageously priced Radio Shack merchandise when they can go to Wally World and get it far cheaper.  At least Radio Shack doesn't have a bouncer posted at the doors....

I'm sure people (possibly on this board) have it worse than I do, but it's nice to vent and hear a different opinion/point of view.
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: Golfer on January 21, 2009, 12:15:02 PM
Welcome to the working world.  It doesn't really change no matter where you work.
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: smkelly13 on January 21, 2009, 12:16:28 PM
Nice reply  :aok

This is the only job that I've had that's done this.  I've been working since I was 14, and am now 23.
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: indy007 on January 21, 2009, 12:22:33 PM
Wait till you try a job that's 100% pure commission.  :aok
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: Golfer on January 21, 2009, 12:24:20 PM
What have you done before?  Are you in school?  How far do you expect Radio Shack to carry you in your career?  What is your career?  What do you want to do?  Is what you're doing today going to help you tomorrow? .

I guess I missed any question you asked other than the last line which seems to be an invitation to a misery loves company party.  Hence my reply.

Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: AWwrgwy on January 21, 2009, 01:54:12 PM
How important is this job to you vs. finding something else?  Time to start looking for something else maybe.  Talk to everybody you know.  It's not what you know but who you know when it comes to getting a good job it seems.



wrongway
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: rabbidrabbit on January 21, 2009, 02:52:16 PM
Go to college or join the Army and have them pay.  You have no future in Radio Shack.  Grab your nuts and change things if they are not working out for you.
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: Chalenge on January 21, 2009, 03:00:40 PM
In Michigan you are doing well to have a job.
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: sntslilhlpr6601 on January 21, 2009, 03:01:34 PM
I'm sorry, but in what way is having a job at Radio Shack better than being in the service?
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: rabbidrabbit on January 21, 2009, 03:06:38 PM
I'm sorry, but in what way is having a job at Radio Shack better than being in the service?

You tell me.
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: Fulmar on January 21, 2009, 03:59:10 PM
Not everyone's cut out for the service.
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: Trell on January 21, 2009, 04:52:54 PM
You work retail in Michigan, in January, And expect hours....

Connect the dots.
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: Babalonian on January 21, 2009, 04:55:08 PM
There are good and horrible corporate emipres to work for.  Radio Shack is not one of the good ones imo.  You could get paid more (or at the very least some real hours) elsewhere.
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: Anodizer on January 21, 2009, 05:46:53 PM
I worked for ratshack(was owned by Tandy back then) for a while...
The company was and still is a joke..  I remember the whole
"You have questions!  We have answers!" campaign..
Wow....  They was probably the worst job I've ever had...
The company was run horribly..  We had a new district
or regional manager every other month..
They only thing the executives care about in that sorry arsed company are numbers...
Jeeze, I remember we used to get talked to about not asking for the last 4 of the home phone...
Who the hell wants to give any part of their phone number away?  I just want to buy the damn
roll of 14 gauge stranded wire!!  Who wants to pay for TSP when all they will do is hassle you anyway?
I bet hardly anyone makes commission there anymore..

Numbers are all circuit city cared about..  Look what happened to them..
Frankly, I'm surprised ratshack is still around!  Everything is way overpriced,
most of the sales people know absolutely nothing, and they no longer carry any
of the little pieces, parts, tools, etc. that Radioshack was known for...


Frack that place...  You'd make better money waiting tables somewhere...Seriously....  I bet you could walk in to an Applebees for TGIF's (hate those places by the way)
and get hired on the spot to wait tables..  One busy Friday and Saturday night, and your rent is paid..  Work a few doubles or a mid during the week, your bills are almost
paid..  Retail is the worst profession to be in especially right now..  Why did you decide to work for ratshack, anyway?  Didn't anyone tell you enough bad things about then?  LoL
Speaking of cooking over a hot grill: I'll bet my Mexican line cooks make more money in a week than you've seen in an entire month working at ratshack.
Don't knock the food/service industry unless you've actually done it and worked someplace respectable/decent...
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: Anaxogoras on January 21, 2009, 06:18:20 PM
$7.40 an hour?

There's plenty of crap jobs that pay more than that.
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: Meatwad on January 21, 2009, 06:22:26 PM
Radio shack was fine before it went to cater pizza dish and try to shove cell phones down your neck.

I enjoyed going there buying PC and electronic components
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: FiLtH on January 21, 2009, 08:33:50 PM
    "It's relatively stress free..."




     Sounds like you may need a little more stress in your life. Oh..and again, sorry about the poor review I gave your Batman movie.

 Ebert out.
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: Fulmar on January 22, 2009, 01:40:42 AM
Radio shack was fine before it went to cater pizza dish and try to shove cell phones down your neck.

I enjoyed going there buying PC and electronic components

About a year ago I was in there looking for some IR Leds and resistors for my FreeTrack setup.  I walked in and an associate asked if I need some help.  I told him what I was looking for.  He promptly went and asked a more knowledgeable employee.
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: DiabloTX on January 22, 2009, 03:00:48 AM
I worked for ratshack(was owned by Tandy back then) for a while...
The company was and still is a joke..  I remember the whole
"You have questions!  We have answers!" campaign..
Wow....  They was probably the worst job I've ever had...
The company was run horribly..  We had a new district
or regional manager every other month..
They only thing the executives care about in that sorry arsed company are numbers...
Jeeze, I remember we used to get talked to about not asking for the last 4 of the home phone...
Who the hell wants to give any part of their phone number away?  I just want to buy the damn
roll of 14 gauge stranded wire!!  Who wants to pay for TSP when all they will do is hassle you anyway?
I bet hardly anyone makes commission there anymore..

Numbers are all circuit city cared about..  Look what happened to them..
Frankly, I'm surprised ratshack is still around!  Everything is way overpriced,
most of the sales people know absolutely nothing, and they no longer carry any
of the little pieces, parts, tools, etc. that Radioshack was known for...


Frack that place...  You'd make better money waiting tables somewhere...Seriously....  I bet you could walk in to an Applebees for TGIF's (hate those places by the way)
and get hired on the spot to wait tables..  One busy Friday and Saturday night, and your rent is paid..  Work a few doubles or a mid during the week, your bills are almost
paid..  Retail is the worst profession to be in especially right now..  Why did you decide to work for ratshack, anyway?  Didn't anyone tell you enough bad things about then?  LoL
Speaking of cooking over a hot grill: I'll bet my Mexican line cooks make more money in a week than you've seen in an entire month working at ratshack.
Don't knock the food/service industry unless you've actually done it and worked someplace respectable/decent...


ALL retailers focus on the numbers: last year, this year, ADS, etc...they always miss what's right in front of them.  To paraphrase your master, "That is why they fail."
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: Lye-El on January 22, 2009, 11:37:36 AM
In Michigan you are doing well to have a job.

Even more so if you are not located in a city. Or "Up North" ......... i.e. Northern Michigan
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: smkelly13 on January 22, 2009, 01:25:45 PM
What have you done before?  Are you in school?  How far do you expect Radio Shack to carry you in your career?  What is your career?  What do you want to do?  Is what you're doing today going to help you tomorrow? .

I guess I missed any question you asked other than the last line which seems to be an invitation to a misery loves company party.  Hence my reply.


Corporal in the Marine Corps. - Kitchen & Assistant Manager @ Big Boy - Security Guard for Soaring Eagle Casino
I'm not in college at this moment, my application was completed two days to late :(
I don't want Radio Shack to be a career, but something to put food on the table and a roof over my head.
I want my career to be in journalism or some type of writing.
I don't think it's helping me for tomorrow, unless I want to be a salemen for the rest of my life.

I was wanting to hear other peoples stories, it's interesting to know I'm not the only one unhappy with my employer.
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: smkelly13 on January 22, 2009, 01:27:21 PM
Go to college or join the Army and have them pay.  You have no future in Radio Shack.  Grab your nuts and change things if they are not working out for you.
I was already in the service.  I am not eligible for re-enlistment.

It's easier said than done, finding a job in Northern Michigan is like having a job.
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: smkelly13 on January 22, 2009, 01:28:56 PM
You work retail in Michigan, in January, And expect hours....

Connect the dots.
Yeah, your point?

When you get hired at a job, at full-time or part-time, you should expect hours.
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: indy007 on January 22, 2009, 02:02:50 PM
Yeah, your point?

When you get hired at a job, at full-time or part-time, you should expect hours.

 :rofl

Not without a contract.

You need to move out of Michigan and into a state where things don't suck so badly.

OR

find a niche, start a small business, prepare to work 120+ hours a week and maybe still starve.

OR

Pick up a second job, possibly a third depending on the hour breakdown.
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: Anodizer on January 22, 2009, 02:03:55 PM
ALL retailers focus on the numbers: last year, this year, ADS, etc...they always miss what's right in front of them.  To paraphrase your master, "That is why they fail."

Ok, getting those numbers by cutting costs in areas that are crucial to the development of a company is no better than cutting one's nose off to spite their face...
A lot of these corporate execs start cutting costs (only to line their own and their share holders' pockets) in the absolute wrong places...
This is what Circuit City (and is some fashion or another, ratshack did the same) did..  They got rid of all their decently paid employees who were trained and
knowledgeable, and replaced them with slacker highschool brats who are no more than cash register clerks that they barely had to pay..  They also saw that
they wouldn't have to pay out nearly as many commissions since they had dumber people who had no interesting in making anything more than minimum wage..
This is moronic because if you're not paying commissions, your not selling anything..  Philip Schoonover was a short sighted fool...

Len Roberts who was the CEO for ratshack did something similar:  Getting rid of store managers and employees who'd been with the company for years
and knew the store, the operation and it's products like the back of their hand just because they think these employees made too much money for what they do...
How about cutting their multi-million dollar a year salaries to help save the company?  Ever see any of those CEO's do that?  How about the shareholders taking a lesser cut?
You know how many jobs you need to cut in order to reach that of a CEO's salary, bonuses, etc.??  A LOT.....

THIS is why companies fail..  Inept leadership, short sightedness and greed...
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: Anodizer on January 22, 2009, 02:14:54 PM
Corporal in the Marine Corps. - Kitchen & Assistant Manager @ Big Boy - Security Guard for Soaring Eagle Casino
I'm not in college at this moment, my application was completed two days to late :(
I don't want Radio Shack to be a career, but something to put food on the table and a roof over my head.
I want my career to be in journalism or some type of writing.
I don't think it's helping me for tomorrow, unless I want to be a salemen for the rest of my life.

I was wanting to hear other peoples stories, it's interesting to know I'm not the only one unhappy with my employer.

Journalism is a horrible occupation to have in this economy..  Read the news...  Every major news paper is laying off people....Journalists and reporters included...
In this day and age, you must be realistic..  I could list 1000's of jobs for you.....But that's YOUR job... 
Ever heard of TSA?  Check them out...  They are always hiring somewhere..  And with your military background, it's almost a sure thing as long as you
pass all their tests and have no serious criminal background...  There are many opportunities..  YOU have to search.. 
 :D
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: Simaril on January 22, 2009, 04:54:10 PM
...Grab your nuts and change things if they are not working out for you.

Although the first part is optional, this is exactly what separates the whiners from those who make it work.

Life hardly ever is a straight path, and no matter how you work the projections there will always be surprises. (Says the guy who doesnt want to open his retirement plan statements!) When things don't work out, figure out why = apply the lessons -- and move on. 

FOR GENERATIONS now, the average worker will change careers several times before retirement. If you hate what you're doing, think about what you like doing and look into related careers. (In the US, you can learn A LOT about what's out there from the Bureau of Labor Statistics website. They have stuff like average pay, training required, number of workers in the field, etc.)


Lastly, as a general rule, if you're doing a job that anyone can do -- don't expect to get paid a lot for it. The more skills and education you get, the better your prospects will be.
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: nirvana on January 28, 2009, 11:44:40 PM
I happen to really enjoy being in the military, thank you.  A job is what you make it, if you're not happy then change it.  If you can't change it, be happy you have one right now.
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: DiabloTX on January 29, 2009, 12:32:38 AM
And your preaching to the choir because...?
Ok, getting those numbers by cutting costs in areas that are crucial to the development of a company is no better than cutting one's nose off to spite their face...
A lot of these corporate execs start cutting costs (only to line their own and their share holders' pockets) in the absolute wrong places...
This is what Circuit City (and is some fashion or another, ratshack did the same) did..  They got rid of all their decently paid employees who were trained and
knowledgeable, and replaced them with slacker highschool brats who are no more than cash register clerks that they barely had to pay..  They also saw that
they wouldn't have to pay out nearly as many commissions since they had dumber people who had no interesting in making anything more than minimum wage..
This is moronic because if you're not paying commissions, your not selling anything..  Philip Schoonover was a short sighted fool...

Len Roberts who was the CEO for ratshack did something similar:  Getting rid of store managers and employees who'd been with the company for years
and knew the store, the operation and it's products like the back of their hand just because they think these employees made too much money for what they do...
How about cutting their multi-million dollar a year salaries to help save the company?  Ever see any of those CEO's do that?  How about the shareholders taking a lesser cut?
You know how many jobs you need to cut in order to reach that of a CEO's salary, bonuses, etc.??  A LOT.....

THIS is why companies fail..  Inept leadership, short sightedness and greed...

And your preaching to the choir because...?
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: oakranger on January 29, 2009, 01:10:01 AM
If you really want a job, look at U.S. Homeland Security or U.S Air Marshal.  They are badly under staff that they have hire people who have miner criminal records.  Also look at Tech schools.
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: Golfer on January 29, 2009, 10:36:08 AM
What kind of a crime gets you a miner criminal record?  Not wearing a head lamp?  High pickaxeing?  Failure to shovel?
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: iTunes on January 29, 2009, 12:00:20 PM
Up until 5 months ago I was a business development manager for an IT company, I had accounts all over the country, I have a 4 year degree in Economics and Finance and I'm working on an MBA right now, I lost my Job (laid off) and now I'm the Manager of a self storage facility, Taking crap from dead heads, listening to an operations manager who has no clue and cleaning the restroom twice a day, all the time making 19 bucks an hour. I don't know how much more of this I can take to be honest.
I attend the monthly managers meetings and basically sit there saying zip as the first time I went to one, I lost everyone there in regards to sales, marketing etc, so after that I just keep quiet and nod my head now. I have to get back on monster/craigslist asap before I lose my mind.
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: smkelly13 on January 30, 2009, 12:30:11 PM
What kind of a crime gets you a miner criminal record?  Not wearing a head lamp?  High pickaxeing?  Failure to shovel?
I about puked laughing, thank you.
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: Shifty on January 30, 2009, 06:03:08 PM
What kind of a crime gets you a miner criminal record?  Not wearing a head lamp?  High pickaxeing?  Failure to shovel?
Geeting caught with your fingers in the ore.
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: REP0MAN on January 31, 2009, 06:24:25 AM
If you really want a job, look at U.S. Homeland Security or U.S Air Marshal.  They are badly under staff that they have hire people who have miner criminal records.  Also look at Tech schools.

TSA airport screeners may hire someone with a misdemeanor crimminal record but I doubt it. You can forget 100% about the Federal Air Marshall position if you've ever been in any sort of trouble or had any indication of credit problems in the past/present. You cannot qualify for Top Secret Clearance with any sort of criminal record.
Also, Federal Air Marshall requires a Bachelors degree or a combonation of college hours and Law Enforcement Experience.



http://jobsearch.usajobs.opm.gov/getjob.asp?JobID=78720265&brd=3876&AVSDM=2009%2D01%2D30+10%3A34%3A06&sort=rv&q=federal+air+marshall&vw=d&Logo=0&FedPub=Y&type=jobs&FedEmp=N&ss=0&TabNum=2&rc=3
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: shreck on January 31, 2009, 12:03:39 PM
There's plenty of crap jobs that pay more than that.

There are allot of folks that would gladly take that $7.40 and hour position nowadays! :aok Count your blessings, maybe get another part-time gig! When you are young it is expected you WORK and WORK allot, sets up a little easier life later on down the road. :aok
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: Yenny on January 31, 2009, 05:12:51 PM
Well let see. As a new 2Lt you make about 55k a year w/ all the benefit etc. By captain, which is 4 years later you make about 75k-80k a year. They put you through school, pay for it. Your commitment is 4 years active duty. I think that's better then a lot of jobs out there.
Title: Re: Disgruntled with work
Post by: awrabbit on February 04, 2009, 05:34:22 PM
I am just gruntled for having a job at this time  :D

I was disgruntled once and I didnt like it. made me mad and for some reason my former boss didnt like it much.

  I  hope to be gruntled at my current job till oh.... about im 65 or so  :aok


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