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Title: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: noble2 on January 23, 2009, 05:51:41 PM
Would be nice to have better bomber perk choices, i.e. B-29.
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: texastc316 on January 23, 2009, 06:06:00 PM
nice, original idea.  bravo
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: CAVPFCDD on January 23, 2009, 06:28:53 PM
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Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: Yossarian on January 23, 2009, 07:11:30 PM
Or, more realistically, the A-26:
http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,247406.0.html (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,247406.0.html)

Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: Anaxogoras on January 23, 2009, 08:14:33 PM
God just killed two kittens.
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: Karnak on January 23, 2009, 09:43:34 PM
He177A-5, Mosquito B.Mk XVI, Il-10 or B7A2.
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: FYB on January 23, 2009, 11:31:44 PM
God just killed two kittens.
There went my cat... R.I.P.  :cry
This happens every time. Always going back n forth from the pet store to get new kitten.
And then  :eek: GOD comes blasting through the doors with a 45. cal pistol and BAM! Cat is gone to heaven.  :frown:

-FYB
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: thndregg on January 24, 2009, 01:55:23 AM
Would be nice to have better bomber perk choices, i.e. B-29.

The climb to bomb drop altitude alone would bore you. :huh
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: SEraider on January 26, 2009, 11:18:25 AM
Yep, lets do it!  :devil
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: apcampbell on January 26, 2009, 11:31:05 AM
How about use your bomb perks to air-spawn at a set altitude?
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: Denholm on January 26, 2009, 11:57:30 AM
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Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: Rich46yo on January 26, 2009, 12:20:36 PM
Ive gone back to flying the AR-234 a bit. Two things have entered my mind while climbing.

First is this was a great airplane to introduce as a perk bomber. No its not that effective, nor was it in the war, but its fast and its fun. Its just not very useful or effective.

2nd is that we need another perk bomber. However, now mind you I wont complain if we get another perked bomber, but I surely feel a few bomber sets need to be fleshed out some first. Most of all the Soviet one, but the guys wishing for the Jap and German set to get a new addition are in the right too. The 111 and the Betty had a very large footprint in the war.
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: Saxman on January 26, 2009, 12:47:41 PM
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As a point of order, he just said the B-29, nothing about the nuke to go with it (nor did anyone else).  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: Denholm on January 26, 2009, 12:57:11 PM
If the B-29 comes around, the nook requests are sure to follow.
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: Lusche on January 26, 2009, 01:00:37 PM
If the B-29 comes around, the nook requests are sure to follow.

So what? The Tallboy/Grand Slam requests followed the Lancaster too, same as the requests about making B-25's available from CVs ...  ;)
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: Saxman on January 26, 2009, 01:46:33 PM
So what? The Tallboy/Grand Slam requests followed the Lancaster too, same as the requests about making B-25's available from CVs ...  ;)

I'll just be satisfied to get the B-25s rockets and external bomb pylons....
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: stroker71 on January 26, 2009, 02:04:36 PM
So how about it costing bomber perks everytime to strap on anything bigger than 250# bomb to a fighter.  It was very very rare that fighters carried such heavy bombs anyway.  Forget the B-29! for now anyway.
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: Karnak on January 26, 2009, 05:07:39 PM
So how about it costing bomber perks everytime to strap on anything bigger than 250# bomb to a fighter.  It was very very rare that fighters carried such heavy bombs anyway.  Forget the B-29! for now anyway.
500s were not uncommon.
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: Saxman on January 26, 2009, 05:37:22 PM
It would also have to depend on the type of aircraft and the arena, as well. By the end of the war 1000lbers were NOT uncommon for some American fighters.

Now, Tiny Tims, OTOH....

 :noid
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: Spikes on January 26, 2009, 08:21:16 PM
I'll just be satisfied to get the B-25s rockets and external bomb pylons....
+1.
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: FYB on January 27, 2009, 07:14:03 PM
So what? The Tallboy/Grand Slam requests followed the Lancaster too, same as the requests about making B-25's available from CVs ...  ;)
There should be a version of a B-25 for the CV, i mean it was used to give japan breakfast then the B-17's and 24's were lunch and B-29 = nuke, made dinner.

I should make a thread or not, maybe.

-FYB
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: Karnak on January 27, 2009, 07:37:05 PM
There should be a version of a light weight B-25 for the CV, i mean it was used to give japan the breakfast then the B-17's and 24's were lunch and B-29 = nuke, made dinner.

I should make a thread or not, maybe.

-FYB

You comment makes no sense to anybody remotely familiar with WWII history.
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: FYB on January 27, 2009, 07:41:20 PM
You comment makes no sense to anybody remotely familiar with WWII history.
The Doolittle raid??? Does it sound familiar?

-FYB
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: Saxman on January 27, 2009, 07:59:06 PM
Yes. It sounds like ONE sortie out of the thousands flown.

Save it for Special Events.
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: Karnak on January 27, 2009, 08:35:17 PM
The Doolittle raid??? Does it sound familiar?

-FYB
I know quite a bit about the Doolittle raid.  You seem to think it was significant enough to warrant something it does not.  It was pure propaganda, very effective propaganda, but it had no effect on the Japanese capabilities.

B-17s and B-24s did not have much effect on the war in the pacific either.  The B-29 did have a large effect of course.
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: FYB on January 27, 2009, 08:56:27 PM
Yes. It sounds like ONE sortie out of the thousands flown.

Save it for Special Events.
yeah, yeah... you too karnak, yeah, yeah...

-FYB

Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: SmokinLoon on January 28, 2009, 12:48:10 AM
I've been saying for quite some time that a there are 4 buffs that should be perks now as it is simply due to their destructive power, their ability to defend themselves, and the range they possess.

Lancs, B24, B17, and B26.  If the Ar234 is perked for its speed... then why not the raw destructive power for those I just metioned?

If the Ar234 is perked at 60 for a "norm", the try the Lancs at 12, the B24's at 9, B17's at 7, the B26's at 5. 

Stop and think of how many bomber perk points we have built up.  Stop and think what we spend them on.  Stop and think how easy they are to earn... still think perking the bombers is a bad idea???  Why? 
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: phatzo on January 28, 2009, 07:48:03 AM
+1.

+2 :aok
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: Karnak on January 28, 2009, 10:29:07 AM
Because the Lanc, B-17 and B-24 are not survivable and were in no way rare in the real deal.

The idea of perking those three is absurd.
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: Anaxogoras on January 28, 2009, 10:47:34 AM
Bomber drones don't belong in the game simply because of how much they warp, how much they're abused (flight of Lancs carpet-bombing gv battles), and their violation of the 1 player 1 aircraft/vehicle principle.

If that weren't bad enough, bomber drones can't follow their leader through a sharp turn (they'll explode), but they can follow their leader through an Immelmann.
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: stroker71 on January 28, 2009, 02:22:05 PM
I personally like the idea of getting the first heavy bomber free.  Adding up to 4 additional drones with a perk cost to each one.  Or for coding reasons force 2 or 4 drones at a cost.  It may stop some people from doing such stupid things with thier bombers.
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: texastc316 on January 28, 2009, 03:00:33 PM
never underestimate the power of stupidity.
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: Rich46yo on January 28, 2009, 03:50:53 PM
It doesn't really matter if the AR-234 is perked or not. Even if it was free you wouldn't see much more of it then you already see, not free or perked 200. Its not a great climber with a full bombload, doesn't have much of a bombload, and its difficult to maneuver formations of them. You cant really fly it slow cause its so defenseless. It doesn't accelerate well. And while it has a range that works well for the game its range is not comparable to the heavies.

Its not a good strat buster, "unless your doing it for score", and is fairly useless for leveling towns. There are very few who fly it anyways and even fewer who are any good in it. I upp them and then meander around a front line waiting for a target of opportunity to open up. Mostly VHs or CVs. Then I zip in, take them out, and fly thru the furball after hitting RATOs. Dont even ask me why nobody ever missions them. They are a first class mission airplane.

They were worthwhile for inclusion for their "fun factor" but can anyone really argue that we "dont" need another perk bomber? Of course we do!

My personal wish list for bombers, in order of "most wanted" first? 1, TU-2 2, A-26 3, B-29.
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: SmokinLoon on January 29, 2009, 09:50:59 AM
I have the understanding the HTC perks certain planes due to their ability, not if they were rare, etc.

If that is the case, then explain to me again why perking the hvy bombers, ya know the ones that can level an entire airbase in two passes (or two sets of buffs in one pass)?  If one or two guys can do that with their Lancs or B24's, I would like to think the idea couold be explored because of the ease in earning bomber perk points.  There have to be hundreds of players with 5000+ bomber perk points.
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: Karnak on January 29, 2009, 10:13:53 AM
Why?  The heavies are not overly capable.

Also, HTC seems to weight survivabilty heavily when perking a unit and none of the heavies in AH are remotely survivable.
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: JV44boobman on February 02, 2009, 10:54:56 PM
I've been saying for quite some time that a there are 4 buffs that should be perks now as it is simply due to their destructive power, their ability to defend themselves, and the range they possess.

Lancs, B24, B17, and B26.  If the Ar234 is perked for its speed... then why not the raw destructive power for those I just metioned?

If the Ar234 is perked at 60 for a "norm", the try the Lancs at 12, the B24's at 9, B17's at 7, the B26's at 5. 

Stop and think of how many bomber perk points we have built up.  Stop and think what we spend them on.  Stop and think how easy they are to earn... still think perking the bombers is a bad idea???  Why? 

why not we have plenty of bomber perks and that could bring the hangar queen buffs back out to play like the 25C bostons ju88 and 87...then thers the ki67...they need flown too
Title: Re: Bomber Perk Choices
Post by: Karnak on February 02, 2009, 11:07:26 PM
why not we have plenty of bomber perks and that could bring the hangar queen buffs back out to play like the 25C bostons ju88 and 87...then thers the ki67...they need flown too
New players do not have plenty of bomber perks.