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Help and Support Forums => Technical Support => Topic started by: kamori on January 28, 2009, 11:08:17 PM
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Ok, for sometime I have heard talk in he game that VISTA users don't see smoke with certain settings. This being true, than that explains why players are putting up smoke then still being able to shoot with accuracy. Please fix this bug.
Kam
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Someone is pulling your chain! Its the first I have heard of it but I dont tank a whole lot.
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Ok, for sometime I have heard talk in he game that VISTA users don't see smoke with certain settings. This being true, than that explains why players are putting up smoke then still being able to shoot with accuracy. Please fix this bug.
Kam
Funny how some look for an advantage
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Someone is pulling your chain! Its the first I have heard of it but I dont tank a whole lot.
No chain pulling going on, its being done. Just because YOU have not heard of it doesn't mean it is not in existence. I have been on the receiving end of it multiple times. I just may build a vista machine and duplicate the issue. Then send in the results to HTC. Oh what am I thinking, we pay them to do that what was I thinking.
Kam
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Skuzzy has a Vista for support purposes. Send him an email asking him to see if that actually works. If so, I'm sure Skuzzy can relay the information to someone who can fix the problem.
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It is true i use Vista and i can see through smoke, i havent been using it much as of late though. It is a problem and i have benifeted from it several times, it should be fixed or do away with smoke.
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It is true i use Vista and i can see through smoke, i havent been using it much as of late though. It is a problem and i have benifeted from it several times, it should be fixed or do away with smoke.
doing away with smoke would be the wrong way to fix the problem.
fixing the bug (if one exists) is what needs to be done.
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I thought it was strange that smoke was being fired at me alot lately.
Something just didn't seem right about it and yes i have been killed thru it.
At least I know why now.
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None of you have admitted you can reproduce it I notice. Thats why I believe someone is tugging it hard.
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I'm admitting that i can see through it, and i have been told that I am "gaming the game" just want to level the playing field for ya'll <S>. :rolleyes:
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I'm admitting that i can see through it, and i have been told that I am "gaming the game" just want to level the playing field for ya'll <S>. :rolleyes:
Post a screenshot if you dont mind or film even better.
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I just went to off-line practice and tried this. I can't see through the smoke at all. Maybe it works different when on-line?
BTW, I am using Vista Home Premium, 32 bit.
Coogan
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had this the other day - tanks firing through a massive thick wall of smoke and zeroing in on me when I could see nothing through it. seemed suspicious at the time :uhoh
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I just tried it offline using vista ultimate 64. I could not see through the smoke.
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Ive been told it cannot be captured on film but i will try to catch myself doing it, to speed up the problem being fixed :salute
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Maybe not film but a screenshot of what you see should work. Offline I can see fairly well through smoke only if I am close to the cloud but otherwise everything beyond the smoke is obscured.
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I'm admitting that i can see through it, and i have been told that I am "gaming the game" just want to level the playing field for ya'll <S>. :rolleyes:
CHALENGE...What part of his don't you understand? It is a problem....Your prob ticked off you cant reproduce the problem. I can see you now spending hours trying to get the advantage... :lol
BELIAL: It always amazes me how one statement or situation can change an Opinion of someone or something. In this case it my Game view of you...THANK YOU for showing character in this game and relieving the truth. :salute
2BAD: yeah I noticed the same thing...I love using smoke to choke up(no pun intended) the opponents Vid card...Odd i had a guy pop my turret after we both sent at least 4 smokes each between us.
KAM
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Problem? Who just blew a fuse over nothing? Like I said someone is pulling your leg. Why havent you posted film?
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I get this sheets of smoke thing when Im at certain alt in a bomber or when in a GV. Ill try post pisc. Any ideas?(http://)
```````turt BTW its a 3g Win xp cpu w a redeon 9700 vid card w 256meg.
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How do I put my film into the message LOL i cant figure it out...cant just copy paste it haha
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go here http://www.speedyshare.com/ and upload the film. Then copy and paste the address on the message boards.
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http://www.speedyshare.com/327981284.html (http://www.speedyshare.com/327981284.html)
that should be it i popped about 6 smoke rounds and could see no problem
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cant see through it, but then it sounds like a GPU driver issue so ingame or film wont make any difference. belial any chance could you take a screeny from that film to show how its rendered for you?
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http://www.speedyshare.com/327981284.html (http://www.speedyshare.com/327981284.html)
that should be it i popped about 6 smoke rounds and could see no problem
Take a screen shot.
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I would think Skuzzy could look at my film and see what i saw...he prolly has a way of doing it, i dont know how a screenshot would be any different than film
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A screenshot shows us what YOU see but the film viewer shows us how it would look on OUR computers.
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I always figure people are shooting smoke at me to get a reference point when they re-launch after getting killed. I've killed people through their own smoke because they don't move from where I was shooting before or I just estimate based on where their rounds are coming from.
I don't doubt there may be a bug but there may be other explanations as well. I killed someone yesterday on the other side of a mound I couldn't see based on where an IL2 had been strafing.
I love the lucky shots.
wrongway
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I also admit to see threw smoke. Thats how I kill so many gvers. Pop off alot of smoke so they cant see threw it.
And take them all down. But I dont want them to fix the problem. Thers only about 10 of us that can see threw it.
Its not a big deal.
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Oh but, I cant see threw it well if there is a burning hanger, or wirbles shoting. Oh and I can post some pics if you guys really want.
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Post your pics! :D
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I also admit to see threw smoke. Thats how I kill so many gvers. Pop off alot of smoke so they cant see threw it.
And take them all down. But I dont want them to fix the problem. Thers only about 10 of us that can see threw it.
Its not a big deal.
so there's an exploit, which you use, and you dont want it fixed. are you serious? :huh
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well its not a big deal it think..and I think its my video card..when I am in a boat it seems there are waves in the air too.. sometimes when i fire my tank round it doesnt make a crater on the ground either with the dust.
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What you are describing now is something I recognize from using Quadro CAD cards which are not good gaming cards. I dont believe it is a Vista issue because if you use the same card in XP it will act the same.
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I think greric may be on to something, maybe my system is just a pile a junk.
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well its not a big deal it think..and I think its my video card..when I am in a boat it seems there are waves in the air too.. sometimes when i fire my tank round it doesn't make a crater on the ground either with the dust.
I get that every once in a while That is a game bug Get out of turret position into driver look around then go back. Usually fixes it.
KAM
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I get that every once in a while That is a game bug Get out of turret position into driver look around then go back. Usually fixes it.
KAM
Na that doesnt work. Its always been like this, hey but I dont mind it.
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my comp does the same thing. i cant even see smoke when i shoot it.
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I have Vista and have never been able to see through smoke. Get my butt handed to me on a silver platter when i spawn in and there is smoke around too.
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I play on Windows XP laptop and i cant see smoke at all. I can shoot smoke and not see it.
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Yep same thing, I also cant see engine smoke, fog, if im turreted (or someone else), and tread dust. Oh and BowHTR do you GV alot?
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If this bug can't be fixed I wish HTC would just disable smoke. It certainly has its uses but IMHO this abuse is worse than losing those legitimate uses would be. It's effectively the ability to make yourself invisible.
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If this bug can't be fixed I wish HTC would just disable smoke. It certainly has its uses but IMHO this abuse is worse than losing those legitimate uses would be. It's effectively the ability to make yourself invisible.
that's the point of smoke
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Its really easy. I usually use a Tiger anyway and I dont have smoke. When someone pops smoke on me I move and then the smoke either has to be fired again or they have moved and I cant see them and I just wait until they are visible again. Most of the time the smoke poppers sit right where they are anyway so the smoke isnt doing anything for them.
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Ratpack and Chalenge, I think your missing the point.
Example: Me and Eric are 1k apart on open ground with a wall of smoke between us. I cant see anything apart from a wall of smoke, Eric can see me perfectly well. I can't kill him because I cant see him, not only can he see perfectly well, he can also take his time to line up a shot because he knows nothing is coming his way. If his first round doesnt kill me, I now have a rough idea which direction hes firing from, a couple more incoming rounds and I may be able to establish a line, but not range (I cant see my rounds land either remember.) He is effectively cloaked.
I wonder if without the exploit he would still be "One dam good GVer" ...
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I only use smoke when the LTARs are there, cause they are always hating on me. But sometimes I would use it to run away..when I know I am gonna die. But..bottom line is most of the time its the other person (The one I am shotting at.) that pops the smoke so he wont get shot at. But it doesnt work..and I kill them anyway. But when and if they do fix the smoke it wont alter the way I play.
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that's the point of smoke
The point of smoke is to make everyone invisible (along that LOS, anyway). Magic smoke that some can see through and others can't is an abuse and a cheat. I'm pretty sure no WW2 tanks had thermal imagine scopes.
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I wonder if without the exploit he would still be "One dam good GVer" ...
I dont believe he is even with this 'exploit' however I also believe that if you are so easily defeated by smoke then neither are you. Any GVer worth his salt should be able to kill and then relocate and then kill and then relocate... all the while using the terrain against his adversary. If you sit still long enough for him to 'line up a shot' then you are effectively giving him the kill.
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The point of smoke is to make everyone invisible (along that LOS, anyway). Magic smoke that some can see through and others can't is an abuse and a cheat. I'm pretty sure no WW2 tanks had thermal imagine scopes.
You should also be aware that since his graphics are incapable of drawing smoke he is also incapable of seeing a well hidden tank.
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I dont gv much and only use smoke for retreat or relocation (or sometimes as a decoy), knowing that other gvers may be exploiting rules it out, which is a shame because its a useful tool in the (RL and AH) tankers toolbox.
Holmes, one dam average GVer.
(but with decent ears and aim http://www.lumbergh.aquiss.com/ah/ah_films/sweeeeet_1shot_on_panz.ahf (http://www.lumbergh.aquiss.com/ah/ah_films/sweeeeet_1shot_on_panz.ahf) :rock)
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No it does not rule it out. Not everyone is challenged with video issues and I would go so far as to say most people would want the better looking video but as you have no doubt already learned not everyone thinks alike.