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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: TheZohan on March 05, 2009, 05:41:14 AM
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A arena where people actually work together? is that possible? instead of where people are off furballing and letting bases be taken?
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Teamplay starts with you, that means when someone asks for help, you go help.
When someone needs troops, you show up with troops.
When someone needs supplys, your johnny on the spot with supplys.
In time, when you've been around long enough to have built a good reputation, people will start listening to you to see if what you say makes sense. It doesn't happen fast, and some days will always be better than others.
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thats not true.. there are people that have been playing for a long time and good rep as you put and when they say a base is under attack noone goes and helps them and the base is taken. cause to many people where out furballing and not caring about the country part of things.
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See Rule #6
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and i am not talking about a individual thing. i am talking about the country as a whole .. reguardless of who it is. I personally want to win the game i dont know about you. a arena set up for people that want to win, where as people that dont care about winning can play in another areana
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not everyone cares about the chess piece they are on zohan, some players DO just like to go and furball. it is their $15 and they can do whatever they feel like doing. What is fun for them may not be fun for you.
If guys like Lynx request help at a base i will go there my next sortie if it is still manageable. I wont bail out and rush there.
If guys like tripl5, LTOWN and such ilk, request help at a field because it is going to be lost I wont bother (no offence guys :D) their judgement on gameplay is inferior to my own. Plus I can't stand guys who belittle others for losing. If they had a 10th of my skill they would be able to save the base on their own (chit did i just say that out loud :lol).
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and i am not talking about a individual thing. i am talking about the country as a whole .. reguardless of who it is. I personally want to win the game i dont know about you. a arena set up for people that want to win, where as people that dont care about winning can play in another areana
I suggest you check out some of the larger Bish squads they dig that stuff.
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i like being a rook .. just wishing there would be more people in wanting to win the game instead of doing other things.
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the LCA alliance IMO very nearly killed the ROOKS with their organisation and mass teamwork.
You had missions running all the time taking/hording fields left and right (where was the fun?? it was military style cohesion). It was the main reason my squad The Few opted to leave the rooks and go Knights for awhile, ultimately ending up with us rotating to all countries.
I think you need to find a well rounded squad that enjoys the things you do. I believe there are a couple of Rook squads that still like to take/defend fields win the war.
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well thats why the arena for just that.. you know going into that arena that your gonna be working as a team..
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next time your in game look up the roster and put it into country specific list,
go down the list of players and see how many are squadless, how many are numbers guys, how many couldn't hit a barn door if they tried, how many speak english as their first language, how many know how to read the map and change fields?, how many GV only?, how many actually know how to type on country without saying "how do i start my engine", experienced players usually have a squad and they are going about their fun with their squadmates and will go wherever their CO tells them too.
Maybe in view of your idea have a squad vs squad arena with just two teams and have them battle it out over a small map. The problem is your opening the can of worms that is the toolshedder vs furball debate. Both types of gameplay do cross each other and will be impossible to seperate without diminishing the fun of one from the other.
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i am not saying it wont happen .. and i am not saying it cant happen or shouldnt happen. i want the game to be fun just as much as the next person.
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I personally want to win the game
Everyone in this game has their own reasons for the way they fly. In many cases the way people fly changes over time. Maybe as their skill improves and\or they become more familiar to their team\country members as mentioned (hint: don't switch countries often).
In this context the game gets better with time. Give it time.
Slade :salute
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A arena where people actually work together? is that possible? instead of where people are off furballing and letting bases be taken?
It's called the Main arenas, of which we have four of them for you to choose to play in and engage in team play with hundreds from around the world.
ack-ack
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I've figured out through a series of posts and a gander at two people's stats, who "TheZohan" is.
But I'll never understand why folks feel the need to hide behind another name.
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If you want diverse people to work as a team, make missions that support diverse interests... Few furballers will want to lug around max ord NOE, but I'd bet most would consider joining as an escort for bombers at an actually defensible altitude, against a target that has some chance of stirring up a fight.
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I've figured out through a series of posts and a gander at two people's stats, who "TheZohan" is.
But I'll never understand why folks feel the need to hide behind another name.
Besides being someone who picked a name of a character in one of the most assinine and stupidest movies ever made, who is he?
ack-ack
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Funny, in another thread here I see tons of complaints about large squads. Yet Bruv :salute, luv you like a brother, (we have done some fun AvA stuff together), you are hinting that my squadmate TheZohan, seek a large squad in order to achieve some unity of purpose.
I have to agree with my squadee, and a few other skilled pilots who have noticed the MA interest in working together is disappearing. When I fly, I do so with a purpose to down the "bad guys" and come to the aid of my countrymen, squadee or not. Wonder :salute is one of those guys, like Lynx and others you have mentioned who has a knack for base defense, and I will auger to help him and he is one of the number of guys who will respond to a request from me.
LTARs are one of the squads that as a unit are most noted for their stiff base defenses. :salute GhostDB :salute does good missions that are team oriented and fun, and don't slip in under dar to sneak a capture. NOE captures with a "horde" when done properly :salute definitely promote teamwork, but the missing balance of meeting fighters in equal numbers and battling it out does less for the soul.
I believe that TheZohan is asking for the Axis Versus Allies Arena to become an "active" arena. Most of the $15 subscribers haven't a clue what is inside (I want to get the most out of my buck). I suggest that you go read the forum before dropping in. I suggest that squads COs take a good look at this and give it a shot a night or two a month.
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I'll never step foot into the AvA again. It is filled with too much BS. The key factor was the "AvA Etiquette thread" which was broke by the person who typed it and by the majority of folks in it.
I'm sorry but I'm self-serving and despise those that are.
You're right though, I pay $14.95 a month and will fly where, when and how I wish.
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just wishing there would be more people in wanting to win the game instead of doing other things.
Do you realize how subjective this statement is? Win the game? This is where the gap lies between game play beliefs. You think winning the game is taking over the map. I think winning the game is beating my opponent in COMBAT.
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thats what the people who fought in viet nam will tell you too... look what happen there
granted they where ordered to fight that way.. but the overall result is the same
and unless i am mistaken, dont you have to fight people in order to take the bases? therefor you beating your oppenent in combat theory holds true
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dont you have to fight people in order to take the bases? therefor you beating your oppenent in combat theory holds true
Not if you're a BoP or a member of any of the other larger lemming filled squadrons.
ack-ack
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how about all the people that like teamplay/hording/landgrabbing all go to one chesspiece. and all the rest of us go about our business of killing them. be like playing defense plus would cut down the win the war!!!! msgs on country channel
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thats not true.. there are people that have been playing for a long time and good rep as you put and when they say a base is under attack noone goes and helps them and the base is taken. cause to many people where out furballing and not caring about the country part of things.
Or they were working on another base, perhaps?
I've seen lots of whines about X base about to be taken, get over here now. Then the "blaaah blaah blaaah, you dont' care about anything, they took the base" screams. Funny thing is that most of the time we are fighting for another base. Which do we decide we want to lose?
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Or they were working on another base, perhaps?
I've seen lots of whines about X base about to be taken, get over here now. Then the "blaaah blaah blaaah, you dont' care about anything, they took the base" screams. Funny thing is that most of the time we are fighting for another base. Which do we decide we want to lose?
This is exactly what I'm sick of as well. Simply put, the players you speak of are selfish.
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thats what the people who fought in viet nam will tell you too... look what happen there
granted they where ordered to fight that way.. but the overall result is the same
and unless i am mistaken, dont you have to fight people in order to take the bases? therefor you beating your oppenent in combat theory holds true
Comparing a WW2 aerial combat game and Vietnam war strategy is apples and oranges and not relevant the least bit to the discussion or proving your point.
Besides being someone who picked a name of a character in one of the most assinine and stupidest movies ever made, who is he?
ack-ack
+1. Worst movie I ever attempted to watch. I will admit though, I couldn't watch any longer than 15 minutes, so I am ignorant if it all of a sudden got funny after quite possibly the worst 15 minutes of attempted comedy in the history of cinema. So...who is he?
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and i am not talking about a individual thing. i am talking about the country as a whole .. reguardless of who it is. I personally want to win the game i dont know about you. a arena set up for people that want to win, where as people that dont care about winning can play in another areana
BY GOD, BOOT THIS CHILD FROM THE FORUMS. His pathetic complaints are worse then a new born child crying in the middle of the night.
-FYB
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FYB,
Notice the "Report to Moderator" button at the bottom of the post? Why don't you try and get him booted? Or, does someone need to report your abuse of this forum and let HTC determine what is or is not appropriate for a post. :confused:
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well said chilli
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FYB,
Notice the "Report to Moderator" button at the bottom of the post? Why don't you try and get him booted? Or, does someone need to report your abuse of this forum and let HTC determine what is or is not appropriate for a post. :confused:
What abuse? FYB isn't spamming this Forum. If spam is his thing, PM Skuzzy and make your Squadron Forum and let this shades acoount spam that one.
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last i checked there wasnt a limit on how many times you could post in a day.
last i checked my posts where legit, or skuzzy would have done booted them.
get over it. stop whining.
i cant help it if you cant think of your own ideas to put in here. i have main and last i checked have the right to post them and as many as i want.
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This is true, just don't make a big stink out of it, otherwise right or wrong you could come out looking worse :salute
And if its team play you want, find a squad, if its squad play you want, find a squad who works well with other squads.
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last i checked there wasnt a limit on how many times you could post in a day.
last i checked my posts where legit, or skuzzy would have done booted them.
get over it. stop whining.
i cant help it if you cant think of your own ideas to put in here. i have main and last i checked have the right to post them and as many as i want.
Hi DrDeathx.
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Hi DrDeathx.
LOL!!! was thinking the same thing! Same comments, same attitude, mostly will end the same way.
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Hi DrDeathx.
I'll take your word for it, seems like a fit to me.
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I'll take your word for it, seems like a fit to me.
He also likes to post in that forum that JunkyII posted about in the general discussion forums that was locked due to the nature of the topic. If you know what thread I am talking about then you'll know what forum it is that drdeathx also likes to visit and post in. Not that I had an ounce of respect for the guy to begin with but my opinion is now far lower of him than it was after finding out he likes to use certain programs when playing AH.
ack-ack
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lol . i am not drdeathx dont even know who that is and i only live less then hour from shawk if you dont believe me i would have no problem proving you wrong
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lol . i am not drdeathx dont even know who that is and i only live less then hour from shawk if you dont believe me i would have no problem proving you wrong
I live in the Vatican and am next in line to be the Pope.
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This shades accusation is ridiculous :noid It has no place here. I see the only ones that need shades are the ones who are so paranoid :cool: they somehow believe that cloak and dagger is needed on the BBS :rofl
If you just want Skuzzy to put a lock on the thread to somehow satisfy what you think is a viable "wish", then you may well be on your way in doing so. I personally think he has much more important things to do than wiping the noses of those who can't contain their petty mucous. :rolleyes:
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thats what the people who fought in viet nam will tell you too... look what happen there
Vietnam was no game, don't be a dingleberry. Sheesh the people that use historic events to make a point about this game. :rolleyes:
If you enjoy the time you spend playing you've won the game. If you expect everyone to do what you want them to...
Better find another game becuase you'll never win.
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Shifty,
I am surprised that you are joining your squadmate FYB in name calling. I have always had the deepest respect for you.
I am sure that many veterans have some ill feeling about our cartoon amusement about WWII, also. Having said that, anyone who returned from Nam and those who fought and made the ultimate sacrifice there, are victors. The lessons learned there should serve our country well. The only comparison to this cartoon simulation, is that strategy is applied in both. :salute
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Shifty,
I am surprised that you are joining your squadmate FYB in name calling.
Name calling? Please, show me where... the fact that he is saying ridiculous things is different.
-FYB
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I love the war setting
gives me alot of targets
I love the freedom of the main, when I take off in a plane of my choice, I am free to engage any object in the arena in whatever style that is programmed
I may live or die in a sortie but at least am not forced to fly anyone's way except those allowed by HTC in this simulated war that is the main arenas
if you want to personally fly to support the war effort of your simulated country HTC gives you the freedom to do so
but alot of people prefer to fly for air combat that has nothing to do with a big picture but instead focus on the beauty of air combat
and from my personal experience I don't find anything more fun and thrilling then closing with a single enemy aircraft and nearly twisting my arm off in a complex and a exciting dance of WW2 Aircraft trying to manipulate there chosen machine to win that moment of combat
don't get me wrong I sometimes love to support my simulated country but like many I just enjoy the freedom of flying my own way without worrying about a big picture and reasonability of supporting my simulated country
if I want to face people and dogfight I fly aces high
if I want to effect a war I fly Falcon 4
point is alot of us enjoy the fights that the war creates but could care less about the outcome of the simulated war that just gets reset all over again
I fly mostly bish and I could care less if they lost every war from now on
its about all the kinds of different fights I get into that matter to me
just what I think about this whole main war stuff
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This shades accusation is ridiculous :noid It has no place here. I see the only ones that need shades are the ones who are so paranoid :cool: they somehow believe that cloak and dagger is needed on the BBS :rofl
If you just want Skuzzy to put a lock on the thread to somehow satisfy what you think is a viable "wish", then you may well be on your way in doing so. I personally think he has much more important things to do than wiping the noses of those who can't contain their petty mucous. :rolleyes:
Chilli, I've had the same BBS handle since April 2002 and never found it necessary to lower myself to acquire another one.
It has every place in here.
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Shifty,
I am surprised that you are joining your squadmate FYB in name calling. I have always had the deepest respect for you.
I am sure that many veterans have some ill feeling about our cartoon amusement about WWII, also. Having said that, anyone who returned from Nam and those who fought and made the ultimate sacrifice there, are victors. The lessons learned there should serve our country well. The only comparison to this cartoon simulation, is that strategy is applied in both. :salute
Comparing what happens in real war to this game is the ultimate in being misguided and over the top drama.
There is no comparison, there should be no comparison. Including comparing strategy.
Nobody dies, nothing is destroyed for good, each side has the same weapons and vehicles available.
It's a game it's nothing more than a large multiplayer Risk game for those that want to play war. So quit kidding yourself about strategy.
The strategy if you want to call it that is to overwhelm with numbers. That's what the guy wants more numbers so he can WIN THE GAME!
Each customer is free to enjoy the sim in whatever fashion they wish be it GV, Fighter, Bomber, or Ship.
They are free to fight for the sake of the air combat or GV combat or fight the war. That's it. It has nothing to do with Vietnam. News flash it has nothing to do with WWII.
It just uses WWII equipment. Just like all the guys that call themselves pilots because they fly in this game but not in real life. It's all a joke, it's make believe, it's just a game period. Get over it already.
Another thing telling somebody not to make a dingleberry out of themself is not calling them one. So don't be a dingleberry. ;)
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Teamplay starts with you, that means when someone asks for help, you go help.
When someone needs troops, you show up with troops.
When someone needs supplys, your johnny on the spot with supplys.
In time, when you've been around long enough to have built a good reputation, people will start listening to you to see if what you say makes sense. It doesn't happen fast, and some days will always be better than others.
:aok good answer!
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:aok good answer!
Wroooong!
Been playing this game since 1999 or so. I don't even bother to post a mission anymore.