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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Dadsguns on March 23, 2009, 09:57:19 AM
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You guys have a nice web site by the way. :aok
I was reading your history on your main page and copied this quote:
"Within 2 months, the Aces & 8s had recorded a total of 3 consecutive map resets for the Rooks. A feat that has yet to be equaled by any other squad. Our final history has yet to be written."
Just curious, but I have to ask a question about this statement above.
How has it been determined that its a "feat that has yet to be equaled by any other squad"?
I know there has been several resets conducted back to back by not only Bish squads, but Knits also and most certainly more than 3 consecutive in a two month period by the same squad.
I am just curious to how you interpreted this statement.
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how does one squad claim that they reset the map single handedly? :rolleyes:
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how does one squad claim that they reset the map single handedly?
Good point.
You really cant, but I assume that one would consider being responsible for the momentum, organizing, taking the final base that causes the reset, etc that would give you the sense of accomplishing the reset.
I do agree that everyone should share that accomplishment.
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Who cares :huh
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Wow,
This is quite a claim. :huh
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how does one squad claim that they reset the map single handedly? :rolleyes:
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The operative word here is "claim".
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"Within 2 months, the Aces & 8s had recorded a total of 3 consecutive map resets for the Rooks. A feat that has yet to be equaled by any other squad. Our final history has yet to be written."
:rofl
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Maybe this statement was made on the website back in the days before the whole horde mentallity took hold. I dont update our website everday or every week and im sure their is many statements on our website i need to redo and update. Our squad has teamed up with the A8's in the past and together we have layed claim to many bases one after the other without 30+ pilots. The A8's are great sticks and their squad as well as my squad have started many rallies in order to take bases. I for one would believe they were responsible for the last few base takes in order to reset a map. <S> A8's Im sure the A8's as well as my squad take pride in accomplishing the mission we set out to do without 30 ankle humpers swarming over a town or base crashing into buildings or augering left and right.
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how does one squad claim that they reset the map single handedly? :rolleyes:
Happens in EW all the time. Just ask SOAP :lol
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Its all marketing...every squad thinks theirs is the best :)
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Happens in EW all the time. Just ask SOAP :lol
well they have a point :lol
only them in there.
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I reset the map three times sitting in the tower all alone..... I am L33t. :noid
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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I reset the map three times sitting in the tower all alone..... I am L33t. :noid
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Big Wooh! :rolleyes: I've contributed to the Knights winning the war at least five times by not logging on. I'm their secret weapon.
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I've contributed to the Knights winning the war at least five times by not logging on. I'm their secret weapon.
:rofl :rofl
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Big Wooh! :rolleyes: I've contributed to the Knights winning the war at least five times by not logging on. I'm their secret weapon.
Dang you got me there.... you are L33T3R. :aok
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:rofl
:rofl +2
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You guys have a nice web site by the way. :aok
I was reading your history on your main page and copied this quote:
"Within 2 months, the Aces & 8s had recorded a total of 3 consecutive map resets for the Rooks. A feat that has yet to be equaled by any other squad. Our final history has yet to be written."
Just curious, but I have to ask a question about this statement above.
How has it been determined that its a "feat that has yet to be equaled by any other squad"?
I know there has been several resets conducted back to back by not only Bish squads, but Knits also and most certainly more than 3 consecutive in a two month period by the same squad.
I am just curious to how you interpreted this statement.
Who cares?....this will end badly.
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Why is it when I picture a squadron fight between the Rolling Flatulence and the A8s, this is what I see?
(http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8906/sm1082cripplefightpostefk7.jpg)
ack-ack
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My money's on Timmy!
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(http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4549/billymadison023.jpg)
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Why is it when I picture a squadron fight between the Rolling Flatulence and the A8s, this is what I see?
(http://img366.imageshack.us/img366/8906/sm1082cripplefightpostefk7.jpg)
ack-ack
Although not with the Aces anymore I believe that particular statement was directed at the final base take that resets the map three times in a row for some camp back in the late 80's early 90's tours.
In the odds of things, being the last squad to take a base that resets a map 3 times in a row has got to be pretty tough. I really see no reason it should be on the website but it is. Balls see's it as an accomplishment and it does say something about the squad if taken in the right context. (The squad likes to take base)
As far as Rolling Thunder is compared to the A8's... There is none. They're in two totally different leagues worlds apart.
I know for an absolute fact that the Aces almost never call a mission because of to much resistance. They keep hammering at it till it's finally taken or it just stops making sense.
RT on the other hand, is the complete opposite. According to a PM I got when I was looking for a new squad to hang out with I was told by it's CO exactly how they operate and thats what i could expect from them. (easy undefended base takes) I promptly responded with :Sorry, good luck with that but it's just not my style" or something to that direct affect.
I know for a fact that while i was an A8 we took more bases than RT on a month to month bases and did it with 1/3 to 1/2 the amount of people it would take RT to do it in.
Ball's style, (when he was in command of the A8's) was to take an undefended V or A base deep in enemy country, defend it the best we could and move onto the next one all in that same area. He was a smart cookie and knew all the Rooks needed was a foot hold in a separate area away from the ballers to set us up to begin taking the rest of the map.
;)
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(http://img257.imageshack.us/img257/4549/billymadison023.jpg)
LOL Twinboom
I should have added that it's definitely worth making fun of tho hehehehe
Good pick Twin
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SKWAD WARZ! :noid
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RT on the other hand, is the complete opposite. According to a PM I got when I was looking for a new squad to hang out with I was told by it's CO exactly how they operate and thats what i could expect from them. (easy undefended base takes) I promptly responded with :Sorry, good luck with that but it's just not my style" or something to that direct affect.
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Total BS or are you just fishin? :noid
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Total BS or are you just fishin? :noid
No, not BS. I sent you the PM and i won't be sharing it with anyone else.
I wrote what I wrote and maybe i shouldn't have. I'm not here to cause trouble.. ACK ACK is . He caught me at a good time and sucked me in :angel: :rofl
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No, not BS. I sent you the PM and i won't be sharing it with anyone else.
I wrote what I wrote and maybe i shouldn't have. I'm not here to cause trouble.. ACK ACK is . He caught me at a good time and sucked me in :angel: :rofl
not causing trouble, just posted on what image pops in my head when I see a A8 vs. Rolling Flatulence thread. Not my fault if the image happens to be accurate. /shrug
ack-ack
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I think you all are taking this statement by A8Balls too seriously. It was not meant to belittle or talk down to anybody. It was posted for the squad as something to be proud of as in "cohesion and teamwork". I will be the first to admit that the A8's are a formidable squad on most occasions and know how to get er done. Now if A8Balls had purposefully made that remark, true or otherwise, on this forum then it could be construed as open season but he did not. Give the A8's, and the RT's, their due without the insults and play nice. <<S>> to both squads.
Carry On.
LTARogue
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you want a race to the finish. go into midwar and duke it out with the master of shed burning .the Playmates of the knights.
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Give the A8's, and the RT's, their due without the insults and play nice. <<S>> to both squads.
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I respect equally both squads. They both provide numerous targets for me. Thank you. :salute
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No, not BS. I sent you the PM and i won't be sharing it with anyone else.
I wrote what I wrote and maybe i shouldn't have. I'm not here to cause trouble.. ACK ACK is . He caught me at a good time and sucked me in :angel: :rofl
i have no problem with A8's or RV, except your both a pain to get off my 6. :D
:saluteI think you all are taking this statement by A8Balls too seriously. It was not meant to belittle or talk down to anybody. It was posted for the squad as something to be proud of as in "cohesion and teamwork". I will be the first to admit that the A8's are a formidable squad on most occasions and know how to get er done. Now if A8Balls had purposefully made that remark, true or otherwise, on this forum then it could be construed as open season but he did not. Give the A8's, and the RT's, their due without the insults and play nice. <<S>> to both squads.
Carry On.
LTARogue
+1 Rougue :salute
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a8's are at controversial bunch for me.
As for base taking, dunno what they are talking about.
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The consensus is most are not concerned with farmers.
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:rofl
I was being nice and asked a simple question..... look what I done gone and did.... :rofl
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you want a race to the finish. go into midwar and duke it out with the master of shed burning .the Playmates of the knights.
When I was still playing the 172nd guys were probably the biggest culprits of base taking. In fact, at late nights you'll often see them as the only ones in the arena and they're capturing all the undefended bases, not to mention that the majority in that squadron are nothing but unskilled point mongers. Just look at members like biggamer and you'll see a classic example of a point monger that can be seen late nights in an otherwise empty arena taking bases. Hell, you'll even see the little tool brag on open channel after taking an undefended base.
ack-ack
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I believe the early war boys have the reset record on many levels :rolleyes:
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Just like every other squad we have our own little accomplishments. Its not there to insult anyone. We worked hard for that accomplishmet. We enjoy going against every squad (my personal favorite is the LTAR's, <S>)
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I,being the CO of Rolling Thunder will say that yes,we do go for undefended(QUIET) bases,just as many of the squads on AH do(ROOK,KNIGHT,BISHOP)..We cannot be held responsible if someone does not UP to knock it back,or if you do,you cant accomplish that goal..HUGE missions are used by every side every day.
Have I ordered my squad to leave when it turned into a 30 min furball,YES I have..Did I tell A8 that we take undefended(quiet) bases? yes I did..A8 says himself that their squad will go deep into territory to take bases,as MOST squads on AH do..
Sometimes it is a strategy to get the enemy to move from one area of contention into another,to spread out their forces,to keep them on the defensive..
There was a time,not so much now,that TAKING ANY BASE was my goal.Not so much anymore.Although I have no qualms about running missions into any base..Especially quiet ones which will help BISH to gain a foot-hold into a territory..
I do not see what the big deal is with taking bases with missions either in the middle of a fight or not..We have also taken bases(RT) by themselves and (BISH) while an area is HOT.
SO?? Does your opinion of me change if a base is taken while being defended or not?I could really care less.
I have learned watching this board for awhile now,that it does not matter how one gets anything they want to do accomplished,weather bombing a strat,bombing a field,a CV,porking,etc..etc..,as the "OTHER GUY" will always say."YOU DID NOT DO IT MY WAY SO YOU ARE SUB-PAR"...
This is a game to play as one wants to play within the parameters of the game...
To have fun as one feels is fun to them..Do not try and impress anyone,do what YOU feel is worth $15 a month and HAVE FUN DOING IT...
Falcon23 :salute
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Well said. I totally agree. Now stop being such tards and sneaking undefended bases. ;)
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I,being the CO of Rolling Thunder will say that yes,we do go for undefended(QUIET) bases,just as many of the squads on AH do(ROOK,KNIGHT,BISHOP)..We cannot be held responsible if someone does not UP to knock it back,or if you do,you cant accomplish that goal..HUGE missions are used by every side every day.
Have I ordered my squad to leave when it turned into a 30 min furball,YES I have..Did I tell A8 that we take undefended(quiet) bases? yes I did..A8 says himself that their squad will go deep into territory to take bases,as MOST squads on AH do..
Sometimes it is a strategy to get the enemy to move from one area of contention into another,to spread out their forces,to keep them on the defensive..
There was a time,not so much now,that TAKING ANY BASE was my goal.Not so much anymore.Although I have no qualms about running missions into any base..Especially quiet ones which will help BISH to gain a foot-hold into a territory..
I do not see what the big deal is with taking bases with missions either in the middle of a fight or not..We have also taken bases(RT) by themselves and (BISH) while an area is HOT.
SO?? Does your opinion of me change if a base is taken while being defended or not?I could really care less.
I have learned watching this board for awhile now,that it does not matter how one gets anything they want to do accomplished,weather bombing a strat,bombing a field,a CV,porking,etc..etc..,as the "OTHER GUY" will always say."YOU DID NOT DO IT MY WAY SO YOU ARE SUB-PAR"...
This is a game to play as one wants to play within the parameters of the game...
To have fun as one feels is fun to them..Do not try and impress anyone,do what YOU feel is worth $15 a month and HAVE FUN DOING IT...
Falcon23 :salute
:rofl yup I see folks living in boxes and under bridges that don't care what others think of them... so I know the type.
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:rolleyes:
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You guys have a nice web site by the way. :aok
I was reading your history on your main page and copied this quote:
"Within 2 months, the Aces & 8s had recorded a total of 3 consecutive map resets for the Rooks. A feat that has yet to be equaled by any other squad. Our final history has yet to be written."
Just curious, but I have to ask a question about this statement above.
How has it been determined that its a "feat that has yet to be equaled by any other squad"?
I know there has been several resets conducted back to back by not only Bish squads, but Knits also and most certainly more than 3 consecutive in a two month period by the same squad.
I am just curious to how you interpreted this statement.
Wow, I don't know if you're trying to congratulate a squad, insult them, or both. But regardless, I don't think it shoulda been on here
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Everyone is a Target, when EVERYONE is 9K underneath you.
Keep spreading the lies, jealous one. Perhaps you will even come to believe them yourself. There are plenty who would vouch for me but you would not be swayed in the face of the truth. You are a jealous, bitter, small person and you utterly missed my tongue in cheek humor. I hold no ill will toward either squad. Why would I?
Your misguided dislike of me clouds your judgement. Any time you wish to go the the DA and learn about me, speak up. No doubt you'll spout the same excuses you always do.
My point is much like Falcon's: we each pay our own way and are able to decide for ourselves what is fun. Some people claim that mega squads are ruining the game. I disagree that mega squads are the reason for any degradation in game play.
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Keep spreading the lies, jealous one. Perhaps you will even come to believe them yourself. There are plenty who would vouch for me but you would not be swayed in the face of the truth. You are a jealous, bitter, small person and you utterly missed my tongue in cheek humor. I hold no ill will toward either squad. Why would I?
Your misguided dislike of me clouds your judgement. Any time you wish to go the the DA and learn about me, speak up. No doubt you'll spout the same excuses you always do.
My point is much like Falcon's: we each pay our own way and are able to decide for ourselves what is fun. Some people claim that mega squads are ruining the game. I disagree that mega squads are the reason for any degradation in game play.
You miss my tongue in cheek as well. I've only met you maybe 5 times in the MA. Each time you had, at the start of the fight; E, ALT and Buddies. You choose to take my observation as you will. It is not indicative of my sentiment towards you as a person. There is absolutely nothing about you which would make me feel small, bitter or jealous. The fact you must personally attack me belies the truth of who is "small" in this conversation.
I look at it as you shaped the beginning of the engagement in your favor and carried it through. You flew it smartly. You seem to think that I am degrading you. Stop being so defensive.
It's a game.
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You miss my tongue in cheek as well. I've only met you maybe 5 times in the MA. Each time you had, at the start of the fight; E, ALT and Buddies. You choose to take my observation as you will. It is not indicative of my sentiment towards you as a person. There is absolutely nothing about you which would make me feel small, bitter or jealous. The fact you must get personal with me belies the truth of who is "small" in this conversation.
I look at it as you shaped the beginning of the engagement in your favor and carried it through. You seem to think that I am degrading you. Stop being so defensive.
It's a game.
were this an isolated incident, I'd take it as a friendly jab but you miss no opportunity to belittle me in a similar vein as your post in here about me.
Let me be clear, in case I already wasn't. I've no issue w/ the A8's, including my friend and your former squaddie, Tools.
I've said words to this effect before : if you guys take undefended bases.... so flipping what? The real sin would be to kill the FH's, with no intent of taking the base, where a group of 20-50 guys were having a blast in a big furball. From my own view, and that of other Muppets, a big dar bar popping up in some corner of the map is an opportunity for a fight. For us, fight= fun. Following this simple logic, A8's and RT give the people in the MA more opportunities to have fun. Even if you guys are "hording" all one has to to is get in a plane and resist. Those who lament the horde, and disparage of the "mega" squads, are missing out on AH fun, IMHO.
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As someone who has fought along side the A8's in the past I respect all those guys and found there a great group of guys and don't blame any squad for tooting there on horn and boosting a little mural within there squad on there on web site. :salute A8's
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Its all marketing...every squad thinks theirs is the best :)
Yes but us in the claim jumpers dont "think" we KNOW that we are the best ;)
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You guys have a nice web site by the way. :aok
I was reading your history on your main page and copied this quote:
"Within 2 months, the Aces & 8s had recorded a total of 3 consecutive map resets for the Rooks. A feat that has yet to be equaled by any other squad. Our final history has yet to be written."
Just curious, but I have to ask a question about this statement above.
How has it been determined that its a "feat that has yet to be equaled by any other squad"?
I know there has been several resets conducted back to back by not only Bish squads, but Knits also and most certainly more than 3 consecutive in a two month period by the same squad.
I am just curious to how you interpreted this statement.
At the time of the writing of that statement, it was understood by the writer to be the truth. However, being that the writer, as well as his squad mates tend to have lives outside the game, we are unable to keep up with "current affairs" as to what another squad does on a tuesday at 3AM.
Its PR Man, its Recruitment, it was about an honest of a brag as could be written at the time of its conception. While we appreciate the compliment as to the rest of the page, I am not sure why you would bring your question here when we have a forum an contact information on our page. You could have easily gotten the answer straight from the horses mouth right there.
Instead, you brought it here, home to the twinks, flamers and lamers. You found what you believed to be a piece of kindeling, and threw it on the bonfire waiting to see the pretty sparks and flames....
Next time, find something else to focus on... like your homework.
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To think, I could of pulled my navel lint out instead of reading this thread.
Maybe next time!
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Whatever is on a squads page is there for a reason. Its their community within a community. If you take the time to post that one of your squaddies is the ubberest pile-it in the whole wide world on your squads page, then so be it, its their business.
I see no sense in this thread unless you like the taste of rusty hooks and smell of stale bait.
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To think, I could of pulled my navel lint out instead of reading this thread.
Maybe next time!
ooooooooooo thats a good one .... :uhoh boy your two cents is made from really really shiney pennies....
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By the way, if anyone would like to see the web page for themselves, as well as check out WB's memorial video.
http://a8s.us
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Speaking as a hair club for men member...., I find that squad mentality has more to do with my choice than 3 arena resets... and the A8's deffinatly have an altogether better mentality when it comes to teamwork than most squads i've been a member of.
A8Popycd.....
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To think, I could of pulled my navel lint out instead of reading this thread.
Maybe next time!
I skipped to the last page. Good enough for me.
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You guys have a nice web site by the way. :aok
I was reading your history on your main page and copied this quote:
"Within 2 months, the Aces & 8s had recorded a total of 3 consecutive map resets for the Rooks. A feat that has yet to be equaled by any other squad. Our final history has yet to be written."
Just curious, but I have to ask a question about this statement above.
How has it been determined that its a "feat that has yet to be equaled by any other squad"?
I know there has been several resets conducted back to back by not only Bish squads, but Knits also and most certainly more than 3 consecutive in a two month period by the same squad.
I am just curious to how you interpreted this statement.
To start with, SALUTE To all.
To clear up something here about this statement and our squad, we do not "chest-thump" as alot of squads do. Granted, the statement made by A8Balls AT THE TIME was a true and correct statement, none the less. At the time of this "feat" as he put it, we ranked in the top 5 squads for that tour, I believe we ranked #2 to be exact. This was a big deal for us seeing as how we had not even ranked to top 10 in tours past. The statement was directed at the LW arena squads, not arena jumpers or the EW and MW arena squads. At the time we as a squad had focused ALL of our efforts during that tour to base takes and had reset the maps by taking the majority of or a very large amount of the bases needed before a reset took place. The statement should NOT be misconstrued to think WE were the only Rooks defending bases, taking bases, or playing at the time. He was merely saying that due to our efforts as a squad, smashin' and grabbin' bases in an expedited fashion, we reset the maps for the Rooks 3 times in 1 tour. That's all that was meant. And it is a feat to go from a young, high ranked squad to top five in 1 tour.
Furthermore, The quote, "Within 2 months......", does not mean we had 3 resets in 2 months, it means within 2 months of the Aces and 8's being formed as a squad, we had 3 resets. To properly get the point of this statement, Dadsguns should have included the beginning of the quote as well,...
"After spending the remainder of 2006 flying as a rag-tag team, the Aces & 8s was officially formed. Our Squad and noseart was registered with High Tech, while our ideas and beliefs were registered within our minds. Within 2 months, the Aces & 8s had recorded a total of 3 consecutive map resets for the Rooks. A feat that has yet to be equaled by any other squad. Our final history has yet to be written." I think this completed quote makes it a little clearer and helps to put it better into context.
Yes but us in the claim jumpers dont "think" we KNOW that we are the best ;)
NEVER has the Aces and 8's claimed to be the best squad around, nor was this statement made as a marketing ploy for recruitment. It was stated as a fact, at that time, as a squad achievement.
:salute To those who are/have flown with us and those who stand/stood beside us. You know how we roll.
To those who don't like us and try to bash us on these forums, sorry you feel that way and feel free to talk as much smack as you like, its good publicity for the A8's. :aok
To Dadsguns, :salute , I don't think you were trying to start anything with this post sir. If you were, I could care less. Everyone has a right to say what they want. If not, I hope I clarified the statements meaning for you. :salute
SALUTE
A8Chewey
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I am not sure why you would bring your question here when we have a forum an contact information on our page. You could have easily gotten the answer straight from the horses mouth right there.
I thought my post was clear, I happened to look at another post that linked your site, was checking it out since we are in the process of creating our own, liked your set up and layout and complimented you on that. When I saw that claim, it wasnt to bring any negative light to it, just to clarify. You probably got more hits on your site in the last two days than you ever have by posting here. PR :lol
Instead, you brought it here, home to the twinks, flamers and lamers.
Do you really take any of these responses as being credible? I hope not, cause I dont. I have control of my own children, not the ones that get on here when mommy aint around.
Part of the reason why I could not respond on your site is that I was on a Military computer which restricts many sites, I was able to read most but not respond via your site.
Next time, find something else to focus on... like your homework.
I am probably older than you, if not, than act like it and rise above it. Dont ASSUME, it makes an arse out U and Me.
Chewey, thank you for your explanation, and yes it does clear it up. :salute
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:aok Rgr that Dadsguns. No problem. :salute
I believe that whole history write up is about 2 years old and needs to be updated. Thanks for checking our site out, not many people have that I'm aware of. We have a guest book and don't think anyone signs it if they do come to the site.
SALUTE Everyone. :salute The responses to this post have been both positive and negative and some just plain ignorant. :rofl
Nice to see that we the A8's have influenced you all in some way, either good or bad. I hope to see many more good and bad years with you all in AH. :aok
Reguards
A8Chewey
BTW ...Mellow out Hat. Take your frustrations out in-game bro, lol. :rofl
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I thought my post was clear, I happened to look at another post that linked your site, was checking it out since we are in the process of creating our own, liked your set up and layout and complimented you on that. When I saw that claim, it wasnt to bring any negative light to it, just to clarify. You probably got more hits on your site in the last two days than you ever have by posting here. PR :lol
Do you really take any of these responses as being credible? I hope not, cause I dont. I have control of my own children, not the ones that get on here when mommy aint around.
Part of the reason why I could not respond on your site is that I was on a Military computer which restricts many sites, I was able to read most but not respond via your site.
I am probably older than you, if not, than act like it and rise above it. Dont ASSUME, it makes an arse out U and Me.
Chewey, thank you for your explanation, and yes it does clear it up. :salute
If you notice, it was 4 AM, had just woken up not only myself, but the baby in the room with me (5 week old) and my 40 year old arse was otw to work... at Langley AFB VA, where I am a SMSgt..... which equates to useless person who drinks coffee.
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How could anybody possibly know if that quote is true or not?
How could anybody know if you are the only squad to do this? (and "this" is somewhat vague)
Also, how can one single squad claim credit for a map reset? What is the qualifier?
It was an A8 who's troops ran into the map room? (see WM example @ the bottom of thread)
It was ONLY A8 squad members at the final field for those three resets? (no other rook was with the A8's helping with that last field)
Which capture is the most important in a reset? The first or the last?
What about the squad that captured 20+ bases on the way to the reset? Is the squad that took that final base somehow more responsible for the reset vs. the sqaud that took far more bases, just not that final one?
How can you claim a reset in the first place. A map reset is much more than just that final base imho. The ONLY way you could "claim a reset" for a country would be if your squad were the only people participating in the reset or did the vast majority of the work in getting that reset. i.e. you took all the bases w/o any help what so ever from any other Rook. Considering that most resets take days to happen, that would be a very difficult/unreasonable claim to make.
I remember one base capture where the WidowMakers did basically everything. We killed town/vh/nme gv's/ack, capped it etc. Another player rolled an m3 and got troop to the maproom. The only thing they did was run troops, the WM's did everything else.
Who's capture was it?
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Nevermind, I'll just do this instead.
:rofl
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How could anybody possibly know if that quote is true or not?
How could anybody know if you are the only squad to do this? (and "this" is somewhat vague)
Also, how can one single squad claim credit for a map reset? What is the qualifier?
It was an A8 who's troops ran into the map room? (see WM example @ the bottom of thread)
It was ONLY A8 squad members at the final field for those three resets? (no other rook was with the A8's helping with that last field)
Which capture is the most important in a reset? The first or the last?
What about the squad that captured 20+ bases on the way to the reset? Is the squad that took that final base somehow more responsible for the reset vs. the sqaud that took far more bases, just not that final one?
How can you claim a reset in the first place. A map reset is much more than just that final base imho. The ONLY way you could "claim a reset" for a country would be if your squad were the only people participating in the reset or did the vast majority of the work in getting that reset. i.e. you took all the bases w/o any help what so ever from any other Rook. Considering that most resets take days to happen, that would be a very difficult/unreasonable claim to make.
I remember one base capture where the WidowMakers did basically everything. We killed town/vh/nme gv's/ack, capped it etc. Another player rolled an m3 and got troop to the maproom. The only thing they did was run troops, the WM's did everything else.
Who's capture was it?
:huh
I would say that this thread has been beaten to death and the original topic at hand has been declared resolved.
Consider this WMlute... after 2, 3 or 4 consecutive bases are taken by a squad without outside help (ie; a non-squad participant), no other base designation other than those 2, 3 or 4 bases are displayed in the text buffer and then POOF... "the Rooks have won the war" text comes about. Thats how you determine if those bases won the war. This means...at that time, only A8's troops went into the map room, only the A8's were at the field at the time of capture. It then so appears that the A8's can lay claim to the reset as per the original statement by A8Balls.
Now, if you would have read my response to the original topic by Dadsguns, you would have an explanation of what the original statement was refering to.
As to "How can one single squad claim credit for a map reset?". We don't and didn't as far as the AH community is concerned. Everyone who plays AH knows that no single squad can reset a map by itself (unless of course there are no other squads in that arena..like thats ever going to happen).
The claim that we, the Aces & 8's, are credited for 3 consecutive resets is for our own benefit. That claim is on our squad web site, not here on the HTC Forums. Reason being, we cannot prove it.
It doesn't matter if we can prove it or not. To you and anyone else that is not an A8, it doesn't matter. We did it, we know we did it and as long as we, as a squad, know we did and can do it, thats all that matters.
The whole point of this thread has been thrown around twisted 3 ways to Sunday. All Dadsguns asked for was a clarification of a statement that he read while visiting our site. Thats all.
I think this thread should be locked and the topic concidered resolved, squashed, done.
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A8Chewey
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:huh
Consider this WMlute... after 2, 3 or 4 consecutive bases are taken by a squad without outside help (ie; a non-squad participant), no other base designation other than those 2, 3 or 4 bases are displayed in the text buffer and then POOF... "the Rooks have won the war" text comes about. Thats how you determine if those bases won the war. This means...at that time, only A8's troops went into the map room, only the A8's were at the field at the time of capture. It then so appears that the A8's can lay claim to the reset as per the original statement by A8Balls.
In all seriousness, why does anyone care what feats a squad lays claim to on their website..... really.......why care? Nothing wrong with a little esprit de corps for the sake of recruitment and morale. Embelleshment or not... what harm is done?
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You guys have a nice web site by the way. :aok
I was reading your history on your main page and copied this quote:
"Within 2 months, the Aces & 8s had recorded a total of 3 consecutive map resets for the Rooks. A feat that has yet to be equaled by any other squad. Our final history has yet to be written."
Just curious, but I have to ask a question about this statement above.
How has it been determined that its a "feat that has yet to be equaled by any other squad"?
I know there has been several resets conducted back to back by not only Bish squads, but Knits also and most certainly more than 3 consecutive in a two month period by the same squad.
I am just curious to how you interpreted this statement.
They aparently were NOT flying durring the days of the MAW or the Mafia or the Bops..... OR well yeah.
Them were the olden days.
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nothing wrong with squad pride-been a pig since my 2 weeks an dont consider going anywhere else-I enjoy tangling with the a8's-always had some good fights with you guys :salute
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I hate myself for reading even half a page of this thread.
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They aparently were NOT flying durring the days of the MAW or the Mafia or the Bops..... OR well yeah.
Them were the olden days.
That's why I had to giggle when I read this ... A feat that has yet to be equaled by any other squad.
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It's on a squad website let it go!
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For those of you that are so worried about what phrase or catchline is on the A-8 website from god knows when (I'm an a8 and never even realized it was there) shouldn't you be more worried about something more creative?
Here, I'll give you a list that should suit your particular M.O. better:
1 Go back to worrying about how you should move out of your mom's basement.
2 Go back to arguing which Captain of Star Trek is better.
3 Fantasize that chicks will really dig you when you show up to the Star Wars Convention dressed as Boba Fett
4 Keep thinking that if you are some kind of Military Genius, when in reality you got couldn't hack it in the Cub Scouts.
5 Wonder why you look like Orca after eating the 8,000th Hot Pocket and drinking the 1,000th Gallon of Mountain Dew you consumed during the day.
6. Worry about where to dispose of the Dead hooker body parts you have in the trunk of your 1976 Datsun B-210
7. Renew your membership to NAMBLA
There see, problem solved!
It's a silly video game, get the F over it. If they want to put "with every new A&8 Membership, you get appointed Admiral of the Kerplakistani Navy and Guardian of the Holy Scepter of Uranus" then god bless Balls, it's his URL.
Big :salute to those who posted calling out to get over it.
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For those of you that are so worried about what phrase or catchline is on the A-8 website from god knows when (I'm an a8 and never even realized it was there) shouldn't you be more worried about something more creative?
Here, I'll give you a list that should suit your particular M.O. better:
1 Go back to worrying about how you should move out of your mom's basement.
2 Go back to arguing which Captain of Star Trek is better.
3 Fantasize that chicks will really dig you when you show up to the Star Wars Convention dressed as Boba Fett
4 Keep thinking that if you are some kind of Military Genius, when in reality you got couldn't hack it in the Cub Scouts.
5 Wonder why you look like Orca after eating the 8,000th Hot Pocket and drinking the 1,000th Gallon of Mountain Dew you consumed during the day.
6. Worry about where to dispose of the Dead hooker body parts you have in the trunk of your 1976 Datsun B-210
7. Renew your membership to NAMBLA
There see, problem solved!
It's a silly video game, get the F over it. If they want to put "with every new A&8 Membership, you get appointed Admiral of the Kerplakistani Navy and Guardian of the Holy Scepter of Uranus" then god bless Balls, it's his URL.
Big :salute to those who posted calling out to get over it.
1. Why would i want to move out? it's awesome!
2. Kirk. DUUUUUH!
3. Chicks dig me more when dressed as Lando Calrissian
4. I am a military genius, just ask the other kids in troop 417.
5. I wouldn't say Orca, more like Oprah.
6. I still don't have enough money to buy a hooker, let alone a rusty 1976 B-210.
7. No joke for that one. You're a bit hostile to say that.
I think the OP was trying to start a flame war. No other reason for this thread. Much ado about nothing anyway.
edit: FWIW, I don't recall running into A8s in an NOE raid, so you guys are OK by me. <S>
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1. Why would i want to move out? it's awesome!
2. Kirk. DUUUUUH!
3. Chicks dig me more when dressed as Lando Calrissian
4. I am a military genius, just ask the other kids in troop 417.
5. I wouldn't say Orca, more like Oprah.
6. I still don't have enough money to buy a hooker, let alone a rusty 1976 B-210.
7. No joke for that one. You're a bit hostile to say that.
I think the OP was trying to start a flame war. No other reason for this thread. Much ado about nothing anyway.
edit: FWIW, I don't recall running into A8s in an NOE raid, so you guys are OK by me. <S>
:rofl :rofl :rofl :aok
All in fun! I didn't think of smooth Billy Dee W for the Star Wars Convention!
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1. Why would i want to move out? it's awesome!
2. Kirk. DUUUUUH!
3. Chicks dig me more when dressed as Lando Calrissian
4. I am a military genius, just ask the other kids in troop 417.
5. I wouldn't say Orca, more like Oprah.
6. I still don't have enough money to buy a hooker, let alone a rusty 1976 B-210.
7. No joke for that one. You're a bit hostile to say that.
I think the OP was trying to start a flame war. No other reason for this thread. Much ado about nothing anyway.
edit: FWIW, I don't recall running into A8s in an NOE raid, so you guys are OK by me. <S>
I was the stoner in troop 188 Hot-Poocckkett
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You guys have a nice web site by the way. :aok
I was reading your history on your main page and copied this quote:
"Within 2 months, the Aces & 8s had recorded a total of 3 consecutive map resets for the Rooks. A feat that has yet to be equaled by any other squad. Our final history has yet to be written."
Just curious, but I have to ask a question about this statement above.
How has it been determined that its a "feat that has yet to be equaled by any other squad"?
I know there has been several resets conducted back to back by not only Bish squads, but Knits also and most certainly more than 3 consecutive in a two month period by the same squad.
I am just curious to how you interpreted this statement.
Salute DG!
Thanks for the compliments on the A8's website.
"Within 2 months, the Aces & 8s had recorded a total of 3 consecutive map resets for the Rooks. A feat that has yet to be equaled by any other squad. Our final history has yet to be written."
This of course occured back in the days of 1 main arena (I really miss that). While being a new Squadron with only 11 members, we weren't as recognized as we are today. We knew we had to prove ourselves if we were to ever gain the support of other Squads. Starting out on the Pizza map, we started taking bases and keeping notes. After each base take, we announced over the country channel "AXX or Vxx brought to you courtesy of the Aces & 8s". After taking the final base for the reset, we announced the same over channel 200. After 30 hours we were reduced from 11, to 9 very tired players, but had managed to gain the momentum needed to achieve this. Keeping track of the total number of bases on each map and how many the A8s took by ourselves (as well as the final take), gave us a clear indication that we were in fact, the deciding factor in the resets. In fact, we took a TT base to reset that particular map and soon caught hell for doing so.
Can we prove this? No, sure can't. Nothing was kept from those 2 days to prove one way or the other. The players in-game at the time probably don't even recall anything from that far back.
Can we do this again? No, sure can't. The A8s now have enough good friends that if we were to begin a campaign of this sort again, we would be joined by some of the best Squads in AHII, and it wouldn't be the same. We really enjoy playing with other Squads.
Can we brag about this on our website? Oh yeah....
Salute to all of the great people playing Aces High. They're what keeps us all coming back for more!
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:salute Well said Sir. Them were the REAL good 'ol days. :salute
:devil Negativity...we feed off it like a fat kid eats cake! :t
:salute Everyone friends and foes alike. :salute
A8Chewey
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Salute DG!
Thanks for the compliments on the A8's website.
:salute A8's
I apologize for any misconceptions and that surely was not my intent.
The BBS is like going to a poker game at a Friends house with everyones kids playing in the living room, we all know they are there, but the focus is on the hand your gonna play, not the kids fighting over toys and attention. :lol
The sad thing is, some of the adults would rather enjoy playing with the kids at the Barbie station than playing cards... :D
See you guys in the virtual blues :salute
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:salute A8's
I apologize for any misconceptions and that surely was not my intent.
The BBS is like going to a poker game at a Friends house with everyones kids playing in the living room, we all know they are there, but the focus is on the hand your gonna play, not the kids fighting over toys and attention. :lol
The sad thing is, some of the adults would rather enjoy playing with the kids at the Barbie station than playing cards... :D
See you guys in the virtual blues :salute
:salute DG, as far as I'm concerned, I don't feel you intentionally tried to start anything or bring negative light to us. But, like you stated above in your quote, the kids that should be seen and not heard at times, run in to aggravate the adults who are talking about adult issues. Then there are those so called adults who prefer Barbies over Brews and stogies and whine when at the kiddie table during dinner times, lol. Like I said in previous posts, negative publicity for us (the A8's) is publicity none the less. We obviously have been doing something right if people are trying to hijack an otherwise quiet post, just to bad mouth us. It all works in our favor Sir. :salute
A8Chewey
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:salute DG, as far as I'm concerned, I don't feel you intentionally tried to start anything or bring negative light to us. But, like you stated above in your quote, the kids that should be seen and not heard at times, run in to aggravate the adults who are talking about adult issues. Then there are those so called adults who prefer Barbies over Brews and stogies and whine when at the kiddie table during dinner times, lol. Like I said in previous posts, negative publicity for us (the A8's) is publicity none the less. We obviously have been doing something right if people are trying to hijack an otherwise quiet post, just to bad mouth us. It all works in our favor Sir. :salute
A8Chewey
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adults who prefer Barbies over Brews :rofl More beer for me....
:salute
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:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
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1. Why would i want to move out? it's awesome!
2. Kirk. DUUUUUH!
3. Chicks dig me more when dressed as Lando Calrissian
4. I am a military genius, just ask the other kids in troop 417.
5. I wouldn't say Orca, more like Oprah.
6. I still don't have enough money to buy a hooker, let alone a rusty 1976 B-210.
7. No joke for that one. You're a bit hostile to say that.
I think the OP was trying to start a flame war. No other reason for this thread. Much ado about nothing anyway.
edit: FWIW, I don't recall running into A8s in an NOE raid, so you guys are OK by me. <S>
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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From one base taking squad to another <S>
It is on thier website, they can put what ever they want. Should see our website and fourms, somepeople might say the same for us.
<S> A8's
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One base taking squad to another?
::cough:: LAME ::cough::
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One base taking squad to another?
::cough:: LAME ::cough::
Ah Ummm, base takers use furballers and furballers need base takers...can't we all get along?
EDIT: Oh, and hasn't this thread dragged out long enough?
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Thank you Tool. Time to play!
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This is what makes the GAME fun -controversy.
I'm not an A8 - so I have no ulterior motives.
Whenever these A8's have a squad night and whenever these guys have decided to take a base - they do just that - with "extreme predjudice".
The guy that got me into this game was an A8 (A8WB) and outside of this game, I knew him for 30 years. Watching him play this game with his squad is what motivated me to give it a go.
When I joined a squad (proudly an Excalibur - VFA 169) and we started to play Late War, rolling bases was no easy feat as I thought because it seemed at that time a8's rolled at will. 6 months ago, it seemed like whenever the A8's got on together and "imposed their will" - it was see ya bye now - Rooks win the map.
Lately - the bish and knits have been rolling maps -but it doesn't frustrate me at all - because what I perceive happened was bish and knits are gang banging against rooks first. There's nothing wrong with that. I respect a lot of guys that play exclusively Bish and Knits and got to know them (as the kill me all the time!).
There are excellent squads: Bish and Knits - no argument. I play exclusively rook myself. My pref. And if I have none of my own squaddies on atm, I'm going to go and find out where the A8s are - because that's where the action is.
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Chest thumping on toolshedding...w00 w00, they are so cool. Where do we sign up? :rolleyes:
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I Peed in your thread!!! YAYYYYY.