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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: MachFly on March 28, 2009, 10:53:08 PM
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When you shoot a half wing of the enemy aircraft what do you do? Let him go or finish him? Both in real life and AHII.
The reason why i'm asking this is because i really don't know what is the right thing to do.
In Real Life: From one point of view he is defenseless and it is really not right to just kill someone that can't do a thing about it. From the other point of view, that is your enemy, and if you don't kill him now he will come back and kill you.
In Aces High: For some reason i still don't feel right shooting down defenseless planes even though in real life it would not hurt the guy controlling it. How ever if you do shot him down he will come back faster, and if you don't it will take him time to RTB and get back.
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In the game i would let them go cause they will proboly auger and it would be a waste of ammo.
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Depends on the situation...
If there aren't any bad guys around, I'll probably finish him. If he has friends in the area, I'm more concerned with the threats.
That's in game... Real life? Can't say. Never been, nor will I ever find myself in that situation.
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Well Iv'e been shot down with 1 wing from a respected F4u in the game. So probably if I'm in a 1v1, I'll finish. Especially if he hos. Fighting in a furball I'll let em go to find the next threat or target or check my 6 for the picker ;)
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It's all according. If the guy has put up a great fight and I only get half of his wing, I let him go. If the guy was a picking, HOing, vulching, all-around dweeb I shoot the piss out of him untill he's dead. If a guy calls it out on 200 saying :Salute so and so that was fighting me, I'm gonna try to RTB half wing" then I will let them go. IDK why for the last one, just something I always seem to do.
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1. Dead Pilots Don't fly another day...Kill him if you want
2. If you let him go RTB in RL the sucker may be too scared to come back and will Stick to flying Cessnas Until he is 67 and starts lying to his Grand children Saying "You see sonny...I killed that man with half a wing! your grandpappy may have to teach you skill like that!" :rofl
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Although... In game, letting him fly a sector or two home on half a wing keeps him out of the fight for more time then whacking him and allowing him to re-up in a fresh plane.
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Half-winged plane can't fight, and probably can't land. If I shoot him, I potentially take the kill away from the guy who shot the wing away and is awaiting his deserved kill. Worse than that, I waste my time and ammo on an *assist!*
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Kill.
If he doesn't want me to finish the job with bullets, then bail out.
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Kill.
If he doesn't want me to finish the job with bullets, then bail out.
What plane are you flying that has infinite rounds to waste earning "Assist on [Random dweeb flying crippled plane]? :devil
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If the person put up a good fight I'd consider letting him go. If he has no friends in the area I am more apt to let him go. If he has friends in the area close I will kill him to keep him from possibly shooting me while I am busy with his friends. I
f he did nothing but fly timid or tried to pick me while fighting another.... he's going down.
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Great question!!! I often find my thoughts wandering to dilemmas like these when I am driving to work...it helps keep the game fresh to play out these scenarios in my mind...this is how I have decided to handle such a situation in the game.
First...I would private vox tune him and tell him how to apply opposite rudder and trim his aircraft to help him land....
Then I would tell everyone on local to leave him alone.....
Then I would personally escort him back to his base and talk him thru landing....
Then I would ask for his phone number and home address so I could send him a box of chocolates and flowers....
Then I would pay his next month's rent and cable...
Then I would start augering anytime I wounded another plane in the air without it blowing up so I wouldn't get the kill..
If I didn't do all that I just wouldn't feel that I had satisfied my "virtual" honor...
Then I would meet my good imaginary friend Mr Snufalophagus and come up with other dumb "imaginary" or "virtual" ideas to adhere too and start bbs threads about them.... :eek:
In real life it is a different situation of course. I think I would have to go with answer "C"
Answer "C" of course is dress up like a pretty girl and go into a tough biker bar. Then I would dance provocatively until the leader of the bike gang came and made out with me in the middle of the bar. Then I would hike up my skirt and yell "Hahahaha..I tricked you...I am really a guy....hahahahhaha"
But then again I always choose answer "C" when I'm not sure what to do....
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do what your heart tells you. Follow your heart. Peace be with you.
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depends on if he fought well, if he was bnzing me while I was fighting others, I kill the rat....if he put up a good 1 vs 1 fight no HOs , I let him go.
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Aces high:
FM-2 - Finish him
Any other plane - eh, let 'em go, and worry 'bout my six
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What plane are you flying that has infinite rounds to waste earning "Assist on [Random dweeb flying crippled plane]? :devil
The original question was if I shoot half the bandit's wing off...
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Aces high:
FM-2 - Finish him
Any other plane - eh, let 'em go, and worry 'bout my six
Why only Fm2?
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Why only Fm2?
Ever lost half a wing in an FM2? You can practically just keep on fighting. Sometimes, I'll think I just lost my aileron
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dangit, triple post by accident
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The original question was if I shoot half the bandit's wing off...
Huh, Okay
Why the Devil would anyone NOT finish off the bandit after you half-winged him? You earned the kill just as much as if you shot his tail off, might as well anchor it.
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Six 110s hit the town at a field you came up to defend and the ack takes half a wing off of all of them.
:D
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The difference between a victory and a kill?
Depends on how much you hate or respect the other guy I guess :devil
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Depends on how much you hate or respect the other guy I guess :devil
Well...what if you don't know him? And he fought ok, nothing special.
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Kill him.
If I could do it right in the first place he would be dead already.
It's not, "I'm going in for the wound."
wrongway
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When you shoot a half wing of the enemy aircraft what do you do? Let him go or finish him? Both in real life and AHII.
Can we please stop this "real life" crap. Not just in this thread, but everywhere else lately.
Nobody here has shot half a wing off an enemy aircraft in "real life"
Current Airforce/Navy pilots aside, and even then, given that there has not been a cannon A2A kill by an Allied pilot in who knows how long,..."real life" simply does not apply here.
Just getting sick of people thinking their actions in here, good or bad, have anything to do with real life warfare.
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Kill him, and that goes with those (*Tommy cookers) also. I sat and watched a N1K get 2 kills after he was set on fire, because the guy who hit him was yelling don't take my kill he's burning.
*if I'm flying them, they usually burn with a couple of pings.
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Can we please stop this "real life" crap. Not just in this thread, but everywhere else lately.
Nobody here has shot half a wing off an enemy aircraft in "real life"
You mean nobody here has shot half wing off an enemy aircraft or you mean nobody ever shot a half wing off an enemy aircraft?
If it's the 1st case, that's why I asked what would you do, not what did you do in real life when you shot a half wing off an enemy aircraft.
If it's the 2nd case, you don't know that.
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finish him-I have been killed by planes I hit real hard-Real life is the same-never give an enemy a chance finish him.
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Can we please stop this "real life" crap. Not just in this thread, but everywhere else lately.
Nobody here has shot half a wing off an enemy aircraft in "real life"
Current Airforce/Navy pilots aside, and even then, given that there has not been a cannon A2A kill by an Allied pilot in who knows how long,..."real life" simply does not apply here.
Just getting sick of people thinking their actions in here, good or bad, have anything to do with real life warfare.
Oh, I think real life applies a little bit, in so far as I doubt that a real plane could fly so well missing half a wing like they do here when you drop flaps. :devil
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Oh, I think real life applies a little bit, in so far as I doubt that a real plane could fly so well missing half a wing like they do here when you drop flaps. :devil
One of my books has a pic of a TBF/TBM with 1/2 of it's wing missing and it's flying along just fine. The acft was destroyed/scrapped when it got back, but it did make it back to the fleet. If I find it soon, I'll post it.
Grumman products are tough in RL and rightfully so in this game as well. I've flown many F4F/FM2 and F6F acft with half a wing all the way home and landed scalps no problem.
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:furious KILL THEM ALL, LET HTC SORT THEM OUT. :devil
No one has ever let me RTB with flyable damage. I'm not even a BnZ'r or 'Picker may HO a few, but ya gotta get paid somehow. :D
:salute
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If there are more cons in the area, I would move on to the next one and let him go. If it was just me and him, I would try to finish him.
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If he put up a nice fight, let him go. If all he did was HO and try to RAM, kill him.
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One of my books has a pic of a TBF/TBM with 1/2 of it's wing missing and it's flying along just fine. The acft was destroyed/scrapped when it got back, but it did make it back to the fleet. If I find it soon, I'll post it.
See? The exact problem is a lot us see one photograph and deduce that it stands for all examples. What do you think the actual loss rate was for aircraft missing half a wing after combat? I would wager more than 95%. It's not the photo you see, it's the photos you don't see.
Grumman products are tough in RL and rightfully so in this game as well. I've flown many F4F/FM2 and F6F acft with half a wing all the way home and landed scalps no problem.
And therefore that's how it was in "real life." :lol
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See? The exact problem is a lot us see one photograph and deduce that it stands for all examples. What do you think the actual loss rate was for aircraft missing half a wing after combat? I would wager more than 95%. It's not the photo you see, it's the photos you don't see.
And therefore that's how it was in "real life." :lol
If you are going to use one of my posts as an example, please read it, not INTO it sir.
1. The photo shows that it is POSSIBLE, nowhere does it say (nor do I) that it is the norm.
2. I simply said that Grumman products were tough. Nowhere did I say they could all fly on one wing in real life. Oddly enough though the one photo I have is a Grumman product.
:salute
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Alright, maybe I went too far... I know that USN aircraft were built tough and saved the lives of many pilots, but I think we agree that AH is wildly optimistic in what you can do to bring home a damaged aircraft. Sure, it happened now and then, but in our game it is the rule to bring home a plane with half a wing, not the exception.
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The difference between AHII and R/L is that in R/L you could shoot of 3/8s or 9/16s or 25/32s of a wing, etc and so forth. (God I love the Standard English measure system!) Or anywhere in between, so saying some aircraft landed with part of a wing shot off is not nessecarily very informative. Myself, I think the idea of flying with straight-up 1/2 of your wing gone like we can in AHII strains believability.
Alright, maybe I went too far... I know that USN aircraft were built tough and saved the lives of many pilots, but I think we agree that AH is wildly optimistic in what you can do to bring home a damaged aircraft. Sure, it happened now and then, but in our game it is the rule to bring home a plane with half a wing, not the exception.
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Don't forget the uber-l33t clipped-wing C-47! I don't know why HTC hasn't perked it yet. :P
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kill him then kill his chute so he cant ck6 his friends :aok
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When you shoot a half wing of the enemy aircraft what do you do? Let him go or finish him? Both in real life and AHII.
The reason why i'm asking this is because i really don't know what is the right thing to do.
In Real Life: From one point of view he is defenseless and it is really not right to just kill someone that can't do a thing about it. From the other point of view, that is your enemy, and if you don't kill him now he will come back and kill you.
In Aces High: For some reason i still don't feel right shooting down defenseless planes even though in real life it would not hurt the guy controlling it. How ever if you do shot him down he will come back faster, and if you don't it will take him time to RTB and get back.
The way I've always done it is if the guy put up a good fight and I cripple him, I'll let him ditch it. If he annoyed the crap out of me, I'll kill him.
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Kill him.
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one wing landing..............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11TGTERa_2k
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When you shoot a half wing of the enemy aircraft what do you do? Let him go or finish him? Both in real life and AHII.
The reason why i'm asking this is because i really don't know what is the right thing to do.
In Real Life: From one point of view he is defenseless and it is really not right to just kill someone that can't do a thing about it. From the other point of view, that is your enemy, and if you don't kill him now he will come back and kill you.
In Aces High: For some reason i still don't feel right shooting down defenseless planes even though in real life it would not hurt the guy controlling it. How ever if you do shot him down he will come back faster, and if you don't it will take him time to RTB and get back.
i've had guys let me go(guppy, and other of the SAPP'rs), and i've hd guys shoot more things off of me. either way' it's good
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Most of the time I would just kill them but sometimes the guy levels off and starts to head to his base. When they do that and if there are no enemies around I fly along side them for a while then rock my wings a few times and go along with my sortie.
i've had guys let me go(guppy, and other of the SAPP'rs), and i've hd guys shoot more things off of me. either way' it's good
If I know who it is and if we are alone I sometimes try to get real close and shoot his other wingtip off to even him out. :D
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I recall a few occasions where I landed a tater on an overshooting enemy who just shot half my wing off. In the words of another BK, "Be sure you finish him off *******!"
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Since I don't tune to 200, I rarely get any comments sent to me. (Unless somebody tells me). Basically, I'll let an injured plane go if it was a good 1 vs. 1 fight. But since those are far and few between, I finish them off. Nothing personal, it's just war.
Obie
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one wing landing..............
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11TGTERa_2k
I was actually thinking about that video a few post up before i sow yours
:aok
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Most of the time I would just kill them but sometimes the guy levels off and starts to head to his base. When they do that and if there are no enemies around I fly along side them for a while then rock my wings a few times and go along with my sortie.
If I know who it is and if we are alone I sometimes try to get real close and shoot his other wingtip off to even him out. :D
:rofl
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Can we please stop this "real life" crap. Not just in this thread, but everywhere else lately.
Just getting sick of people thinking their actions in here, good or bad, have anything to do with real life warfare.
This game is a loose simulation of WW2 combat flying. What's wrong with immersing oneself in the fantasy a bit? I don't see any evidence that anyone here has a tough time remembering that the game isn't real life combat, or that the actual experience of real life combat would be nothing like the experience of playing the game.
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In Real Life: From one point of view he is defenseless and it is really not right to just kill someone that can't do a thing about it. From the other point of view, that is your enemy, and if you don't kill him now he will come back and kill you.
Shoot him down. Why risk letting him live just to take off another day and shoot you or your buddies down?
In Aces High: For some reason i still don't feel right shooting down defenseless planes even though in real life it would not hurt the guy controlling it. How ever if you do shot him down he will come back faster, and if you don't it will take him time to RTB and get back.
Shoot him down. If he bails out, swing around and shoot his parachute. Tune to Channel 200 and enjoy the whines.
ack-ack
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In Aces High:
These days? Finish him off.
1.) If you don't, someone else will swoop in to "help" by clearing your 12 and taking your kill.
2.) Its probably a Spit 16 anyway, so no respect is required.
3.) Its not like he wouldn't do the exact same thing to you.
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When you shoot a half wing of the enemy aircraft what do you do? Let him go or finish him?
Kill him. If you don't someone else will run him down and finish him, potentially taking the kill. Additionally, He's still a threat. I've killed other planes while I was missing half a wing.
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in AH2 - Let him live unless it threatens you, your squady or the mission.
in RL - dunno. Too hard to tell. 90% of the people will tell you they would try to stop a weakly armed person from a bank robbery if he had his back completely turned and no one else there to help him, in reality 90% would do nothing.
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If the person put up a good fight I'd consider letting him go. If he has no friends in the area I am more apt to let him go. If he has friends in the area close I will kill him to keep him from possibly shooting me while I am busy with his friends. I
f he did nothing but fly timid or tried to pick me while fighting another.... he's going down.
:aok Yep.
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If the person put up a good fight I'd consider letting him go. If he has no friends in the area I am more apt to let him go. If he has friends in the area close I will kill him to keep him from possibly shooting me while I am busy with his friends. I
f he did nothing but fly timid or tried to pick me while fighting another.... he's going down.
yea, i probably agree with that.
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kill the mangy dog
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I would let him go as I have in past. If someone is RTB with oil hit, or appears to be RTB, i won't engage; I just won't shoot landers in general.
Half wing: Same thing, will let them RTB usually
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If it was a good fight, I would let him go. Most of the time though, FINISH HIM!!!!!!
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KILL.....................If He's crippled and I didn't cause most of the damage I'll leave him for the Friendly that was engaged. If he's a Flamer i'll take him out because they can still kill. I show no mercy for I am shown none. It's still a Game and untill HiTech has a NICE GUY points column the Game will be played.
In Real Life most would be too worried about soiling themselves or getting wacked than chasing a Crippled Plane. In War even a Pilot in a Chute is a countries asset and I'm sure some were shot.
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Just started watching the Tv Show Breaking Bad. Thought it was a thread about it :rolleyes: :uhoh
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If it is me in that plane, let me go. Kill everyone else. ;D
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I once was tangling with a guy in a 190 and he ripped his wing tips off. I followed him awhile and watched him fight it as I had no intention of "finishing him off". He found a way to land it in the trees which I thought was quit impressive considering the how thick the cabbage was he landed in. So, I decided to land next to him and bust a 45 cap in his azz. The dumb thing I did was land right in front of him and it would have been easy for him to kill me but he didn't pull the trigger. We then both jumped out and if i remember right he shot me first :cry
It was funny as hell anyway :rofl
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Ok i was thinking and, If they have 1/2 a wing and are flying upside down and in a death spiral i just don't feel like using the ammo. :devil
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where the hell are all these gus when I have half a wing?!
All the badguys trip over each other trying to blow the other one off when its me... sombodys lying....
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cause they all are...everyone goes for the wounded and weak con for an easy kill,no matter what they may say in here. :rolleyes:
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cause they all are...everyone goes for the wounded and weak con for an easy kill,no matter what they may say in here. :rolleyes:
To be honest with you i seen a few people let me go
and I do usually let people go if it was a good fight.
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>4 minute fight = let go
1<X<4 minute fight in respectable plane, let go
0<X<4 minute fight in any unrespectable plane, or multiple bogies interfering, die.
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Help him and escort him back to his field.
Then shoot him on the runway :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :O
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He, who you do not kill today.... Will be back to kill your brother tomorrow. Can you live with that dude? I can't.
You never seen Saving Private Ryan?
At the same time, there are few of us who can take a half wing, fly 50 miles and safely land. But all the same...... KILL KILL KILL
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Help him and escort him back to his field.
Then shoot him on the runway :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl :O
WTF!!! I thought you quit dweeb.
How you been?
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This might have been addressed although I skipped most of the replies.
If you engaged him and you shot his wing and he's running........ I finish the kill. 2 reasons: he is not taking his defeat honorably. And the 2nd is some other n00b could try to steal your kill. And ask Skyrock says in his example, he BnZ you while engaged, get him back for being a weakling.
However the exception is if he's low alt trying to get back to the base and I'm above him, I'll let him go awarding the kill to another more deserving, or let the pilot use his skills to land his sortie.
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WTF!!! I thought you quit dweeb.
How you been?
I did, but the BBS is as funny as channel 200, and it is free :lol :lol :lol I say, HT should charge $10 monthly for BBS access. I would pay it lol
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I did, but the BBS is as funny as channel 200, and it is free :lol :lol :lol I say, HT should charge $10 monthly for BBS access. I would pay it lol
Hmmm, you won't pay $14.95 to play but $10 to BS on BBS? :lol :lol :rofl
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Hmmm, you won't pay $14.95 to play but $10 to BS on BBS? :lol :lol :rofl
It is more fun and you don't need 16 CPUs and 4 video cards to play :lol