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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Spyder on April 17, 2009, 11:29:20 PM
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I like to go to the DA usually to show myself I don't suck, and have some friendly fights in furball form.
Tonight was chaos. I went into the DA and noticed a lot of people in there, and thought nothing of it. I go in there and notice the typical whines about the DA. The bish and nits ganged up on the rooks (to take it off topic for a few seconds, why do people hate the rooks so much? They are probably the least dweebish country in the game IMHO because I've been on all three sides. Nits are just pathetic, bish might as well be called "the collective" but rooks seem to be well rounded), The field was being vulched (or attempted but failing miserably), and I even saw some AR234s trying to bomb the field. And lets not forget the hoarding, but of course there is going to be hoarding, that's the point of furball lake.
What really got me steamed though, was that some one was kind enough to help me finish the F4U I just removed the left wing and tail section from, thus stealing my valuable kill. Why oh why would any one do that? Wow, I feel better already, but my point still stands, Friday DA is not that fun.
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thus stealing my valuable kill
um...what you get for your kills? because I dont get squat for mine. Might be low exchange rate in my area or something...
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I don't know who's worse.
The guy who tried to "steal" your kill, or you for whining the kill is even worth "stealing" in the DA.
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um...what you get for your kills? because I dont get squat for mine. Might be low exchange rate in my area or something...
What do you mean i get 25 cents everytime i get a kill. How do you think i pay $15's a month? :lol
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LOL! Well as you might of picked up, I suck. I need them kills! :lol
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Maybe you suck, but it has nothing to do with kills??? :D
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Belive me people can suck so bad its like Hellen Keller is in the plane behind you. Your not one of them.
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Belive me people can suck so bad its like Hellen Keller is in the plane behind you. Your not one of them.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
are you making fun of me?
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Despite all the DA's shortcomings, I've never seen any vultching in there.
Possible? Yes. Seen it? No.
wrongway
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Vultching
wrongway
Lmao yesterday people had A2 deacked and they were vutlching it. Also they were killing the ord. :huh
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So what, stop getting your butt's handed to you all,and you would do just fine, no fighter defence, field guns get taken down.
ords, what do you need those for? :D
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I like to go to the DA usually to show myself I don't suck, and have some friendly fights in furball form.
Tonight was chaos. I went into the DA and noticed a lot of people in there, and thought nothing of it. I go in there and notice the typical whines about the DA. The bish and nits ganged up on the rooks (to take it off topic for a few seconds, why do people hate the rooks so much? They are probably the least dweebish country in the game IMHO because I've been on all three sides. Nits are just pathetic, bish might as well be called "the collective" but rooks seem to be well rounded), The field was being vulched (or attempted but failing miserably), and I even saw some AR234s trying to bomb the field. And lets not forget the hoarding, but of course there is going to be hoarding, that's the point of furball lake.
What really got me steamed though, was that some one was kind enough to help me finish the F4U I just removed the left wing and tail section from, thus stealing my valuable kill. Why oh why would any one do that? Wow, I feel better already, but my point still stands, Friday DA is not that fun.
seems like you're a rook, fishing.
1)there is no loyalty to a chess piece, especially in da.
2)if it agitates ya, then go somewhere else.
3)see twentyfo. he'll teach ya how to place better bait.
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I like to go to the DA usually to show myself I don't suck, and have some friendly fights in furball form.
Tonight was chaos. I went into the DA and noticed a lot of people in there, and thought nothing of it. I go in there and notice the typical whines about the DA. The bish and nits ganged up on the rooks (to take it off topic for a few seconds, why do people hate the rooks so much? They are probably the least dweebish country in the game IMHO because I've been on all three sides. Nits are just pathetic, bish might as well be called "the collective" but rooks seem to be well rounded), The field was being vulched (or attempted but failing miserably), and I even saw some AR234s trying to bomb the field. And lets not forget the hoarding, but of course there is going to be hoarding, that's the point of furball lake.
What really got me steamed though, was that some one was kind enough to help me finish the F4U I just removed the left wing and tail section from, thus stealing my valuable kill. Why oh why would any one do that? Wow, I feel better already, but my point still stands, Friday DA is not that fun.
The question is this......
Do you enjoy flying and shooting the Corsair, taking his wing off and removing him from the fight?
Or do you only derive enjoyment when you get credit for the kill in the buffer (which only you see BTW)?
If you derive enjoyment from the first then you enjoy the process. If the second is where the enjoyment is then you only enjoy the result. I would suggest concentrating on enjoyment of the process instead of only on the expected result.
When you don't enjoy the process but do enjoy the result, we call that a job or work. When you do it for the thrill of doing it it is called fun or recreation.
If Aces High is a job then I would suggest another form of entertainment.
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ahhhh hahahaha that was great.I was in the DA last night training with my guys for FSO when i saw on text that one guy was tryin to get all the people he could to attack the rooks it was super pathetic.The rooks were even whinen about a P47 raid hahaha that was RICH lol good times.....goooood times
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Yea there are tons of people in the DA that just hate to be called out on unsportsmanship conduct. I skwelched one last night. :)
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The question is this......
Do you enjoy flying and shooting the Corsair, taking his wing off and removing him from the fight?
Or do you only derive enjoyment when you get credit for the kill in the buffer (which only you see BTW)?
If you derive enjoyment from the first then you enjoy the process. If the second is where the enjoyment is then you only enjoy the result. I would suggest concentrating on enjoyment of the process instead of only on the expected result.
When you don't enjoy the process but do enjoy the result, we call that a job or work. When you do it for the thrill of doing it it is called fun or recreation.
If Aces High is a job then I would suggest another form of entertainment.
you win the " BEST POST/REPLY AWARD for this thread!!! :aok ( really for any thread..........seriously ! )
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Switch sides in the DA if you feel like you are getting ganged..there is no time limit on switching. What is worse, ganged or too many friendlies? One you are working on your computer skill set, the other means it is time to switch countries.
Once you get killing skills down, you'll get as many kills as you can handle.
I think its funny in the DA when another guy goes for the plane I just knocked down.. many times the guy augers and he at least blows his alt. advantage and may meet an early death. Several new guys in there may not think that he is indeed going down so I dont think they are 'kill stealers'.
I think they should end the kills landed messages in there and much of the dweebiness will go away. It will get rid of the 'vet' picktards in there who think they are great dogfighters and love to show off their skills by impressing a bunch of newbs like some troll by landing 5 kills in a spit16.
I've been vulched before by a 110 in the DA.
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Anyone who always avoids chaotic furballs remains at the same level of ability to survive in them, while those who enjoy them only get better at furballing. A product of this is that everyday the furball becomes a little more skillfull and a little more dangerous. Every day spent complaining instead of soaking it up is a day wasted and a harder task to face the next day. Does that make sense to anyone?
Learning a skill is sometimes about adaption to new surroundings. Lifeforms that do not adapt usualy get walked on by those that do.
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Understand what you are saying Mech, I dont generally fly in the furball arena unless I'm waiting on a squaddie to duel - that said, on the few occasions I have flown there, whilst its been ho central, pick park etc etc etc - its actually been fun and had me laughing me nuts off in short order. Plus, as you said, its fun to learn to avoid the super fast temps, corsairs etc, work the angles and gain an advantage.
Plus, some of the guys in there are actually really really polite (there are some who aren't obviously, but I've met some good ppl in there)
Personally, for me, it could be better, but it is what it is.
Wurzel
(and yes, I'd still like to see the better sticks come in and clear it out just for the fun of it (as I've mentioned that before))
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you win the " BEST POST/REPLY AWARD for this thread!!! :aok ( really for any thread..........seriously ! )
Thanks
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The question is this......
Do you enjoy flying and shooting the Corsair, taking his wing off and removing him from the fight?
You must enjoy defending the single lamest behavior in the game much more than you enjoy...well, anything.
Or do you only derive enjoyment when you get credit for the kill in the buffer (which only you see BTW)?
Wrong...the victim also sees it, and that is the important part.
Score is kept in this game. People can say what they want, that it is not important, that they don't care, fine, whatever. But someone desperate enough to shoot at wreckage spiraling down damn well does care, and they are cheating to pad their score, at the expense of someone else's score.
The only explanation I can think of for your defense of this behavior is the old expression "A hit dog howls."
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The question is this......
Do you enjoy flying and shooting the Corsair, taking his wing off and removing him from the fight?
Or do you only derive enjoyment when you get credit for the kill in the buffer (which only you see BTW)?
If you derive enjoyment from the first then you enjoy the process. If the second is where the enjoyment is then you only enjoy the result. I would suggest concentrating on enjoyment of the process instead of only on the expected result.
When you don't enjoy the process but do enjoy the result, we call that a job or work. When you do it for the thrill of doing it it is called fun or recreation.
If Aces High is a job then I would suggest another form of entertainment.
Some people enjoy the process AND the result. I would imagine this actually includes most people. Else we wouldn't have kill buffer or people RTBing to land kills. You work hard, enjoy getting the kill only for someone to snatch the result away from you. A legitimate whine.. in MA.
In DA, really... shouldn't fridgen matter. Furball lake should just be about the process of fighting in a furball. Not another MA on crystal meth which it is now...
I saw this guy piss n moan about losing his 5 kills :cry and putting so much emphasis on the fact that he had 5 kills which he was going to land... but got jumped n killed! Aww. He would've been a damn hero I say!! A HERO!
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I have landed exactly once in the DA. That was because I had only a single bullet left and my P-40 was miraculously still air-worthy.
I did it mostly as a joke, after seeing people land 2 in a Tempest. WTFG 2 killz in a Tempest!!! :rofl
The DA really is The MA on meth. If I can spot a single red dot (pretty rare), I'll vector that way. It's fun though, just to hang right off the enemy base and wait to be bludgeoned by the swarm. It's priceless making them auger fighting over the easy kill. :aok
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You must enjoy defending the single lamest behavior in the game much more than you enjoy...well, anything.
Wrong...the victim also sees it, and that is the important part.
Score is kept in this game. People can say what they want, that it is not important, that they don't care, fine, whatever. But someone desperate enough to shoot at wreckage spiraling down damn well does care, and they are cheating to pad their score, at the expense of someone else's score.
The only explanation I can think of for your defense of this behavior is the old expression "A hit dog howls."
I suppose you are mad about that service ceiling post.
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They are probably the least dweebish country in the game IMHO because I've been on all three sides. Nits are just pathetic, bish might as well be called "the collective" but rooks seem to be well rounded),
They're all the same.
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I suppose you are mad about that service ceiling post.
Hey...you are the one who keep defending out-and-out cheating. It would be like making posts defending necrophilia...perhaps it would be unfair to assume you actually do it, but folks would still look at you askance.
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ewww......BnZ that sickness is a bit like kill stealing..
"It's still warm...SHOOT IT! "
:uhoh
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seems like you're a rook, fishing.
1)there is no loyalty to a chess piece, especially in da.
2)if it agitates ya, then go somewhere else.
3)see twentyfo. he'll teach ya how to place better bait.
Half the Nits online at any time belong to the 'Rowdy Ones', and never switch, mebbe 1/3 of Rooks online at any time belong to 'TAS', and practically never switch, but for a couple...I don't think Bish have one yet
Despite all the DA's shortcomings, I've never seen any vultching in there.
Possible? Yes. Seen it? No.
wrongway
First time in there in a couple weeks, 109F tried to vulch me as I started engine, F6 as I raised wheels
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Hey...you are the one who keep defending out-and-out cheating. It would be like making posts defending necrophilia...perhaps it would be unfair to assume you actually do it, but folks would still look at you askance.
How exactly did I defend "out and out cheating"?
Reviewing your responses in this thread leads me to believe that you possibly misinterpreted my posts but I am sure you will explain it all very soon.
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from what i got Dawger's post was quite simple. You either enjoy the fight or the kill, or both and that enjoying only the kill is a narrow outlook on the game. I'm pretty sure that is all he was saying. :confused:
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How exactly did I defend "out and out cheating"?
Reviewing your responses in this thread leads me to believe that you possibly misinterpreted my posts but I am sure you will explain it all very soon.
You seemed to totally reject the concept of stealing a kill. This would presumably include out-and-out shooting an airplane someone else has de-winged airplane to get the kill. I consider this up there with vulching a second account as far as foul methods of score-padding go. Then there are less clear situations, but just because things get a bit foggy sometimes doesn't mean there should not be a standard.
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I must really be missing something. Who really cares about the DA, its there for a duel. Hence DA, or am I missing something. I go there for maybe a warm up, but thats about it. Or a duel, or a squad scrimmage, but really Im curious, I've seen so many posts on the DA, are there people that actually give a chit, or did I miss something. :huh
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Who really cares about the DA..I've seen so many posts on the DA, are there people that actually give a chit, or did I miss something. :huh
:aok
Question: Is there a way to duel planes vs tanks anymore?
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You seemed to totally reject the concept of stealing a kill. This would presumably include out-and-out shooting an airplane someone else has de-winged airplane to get the kill. I consider this up there with vulching a second account as far as foul methods of score-padding go. Then there are less clear situations, but just because things get a bit foggy sometimes doesn't mean there should not be a standard.
Yes, I totally reject the notion that you can somehow steal a kill. There is no ownership therefore there can be no theft.
But then I am a big believer in taking personal responsibility for things. This is how I view it. My goal is to kill the bandit quickly and to kill him dead. If I don't do it quickly enough and someone else does it for me then he should be rewarded for his expeditious flying. If my aim is inaccurate and I do not score rounds into the head of the pilot, causing instant death then I am wide open to another pilot, with better aim, putting rounds on target and that target is ALWAYS the enemy pilot's head.
If you believe that the fact you chased a bandit or put less than lethal fire downrange entitled you to ownership then you are free to feel that way, but that doesn't make it cheating when someone else finishes what you started. Yes, that even includes people that fire on obviously out of control wreckage. There is absolutely no way to rationalize that into "cheating".
My squad trains to neutralize the bandit and then move on to the next target without unnecessarily pursuing a bandit that is going to die. And if someone else dives in on a bandit we have left for dead, more power to them.
And mechanic is right, I was referring to where you derive enjoyment. If the ONLY important or fun part of simulating air combat is credit in the kill buffer then I can understand the frustration one might have with the game. If you can derive fun from the process AND the result or even better the process alone then the game is much more enjoyable.
And I am now laughing at those who post that the DA is meaningless. I have a news update. It is all meaningless beyond the pleasure one derives from it. DA, MA, Events and everything else. No deeper meaning or value to society. If it isn't fun, please don't play the game.
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If you believe that the fact you chased a bandit or put less than lethal fire downrange entitled you to ownership then you are free to feel that way, but that doesn't make it cheating when someone else finishes what you started. Yes, that even includes people that fire on obviously out of control wreckage. There is absolutely no way to rationalize that into "cheating".
If the bandit is wing-less or tail-less, he is going into the ground, that is inarguable. He is no threat, and the kill is going to be awarded to the guy who de-winged him or de-tailed him. The only purposes of shooting at the wreckage can be to steal credit to pad your score. Not only do I call it cheating, I consider it worse than vulching a second account. At least when people do that, they are not really taking anything away from someone else.
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If the bandit is wing-less or tail-less, he is going into the ground, that is inarguable. He is no threat, and the kill is going to be awarded to the guy who de-winged him or de-tailed him. The only purposes of shooting at the wreckage can be to steal credit to pad your score. Not only do I call it cheating, I consider it worse than vulching a second account. At least when people do that, they are not really taking anything away from someone else.
If you don't want anyone to shoot at your "wreckage" then aim for a pilot kill. And missing parts, even parts as large as a wing is no guarantee the bandit is out of the fight in Aces High. Just yesterday I knocked the right wing off a tempest and he maneuvered well enough to get rounds on me on the overshoot. I was certainly glad another friendly finished the job I didn't have the accuracy to complete. I'd prefer to thank the friends that are cleaning up my six of the wreckage I leave behind rather than yell at them for doing what I should've already done.
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You seemed to totally reject the concept of stealing a kill. This would presumably include out-and-out shooting an airplane someone else has de-winged airplane to get the kill. I consider this up there with vulching a second account as far as foul methods of score-padding go. Then there are less clear situations, but just because things get a bit foggy sometimes doesn't mean there should not be a standard.
How you read 'cheating' into what Dawger wrote is mind boggling.
ack-ack
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It seems evident to me that this argument started before this thread, because through only reading this thread i have no clue whats going on at all. Both reasonable guys, are you sure you both cant settle this with a duel?
one duel in each's players choice of plane. If nothing else you can continue to debate on vox instead of paper.
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What happens if someone shoots at the tumbling wreckage of one of the participants? Does that guy then win? :D
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:)
<waits at 20k to pick them both.
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It seems evident to me that this argument started before this thread, because through only reading this thread i have no clue whats going on at all. Both reasonable guys, are you sure you both cant settle this with a duel?
one duel in each's players choice of plane. If nothing else you can continue to debate on vox instead of paper.
I'm not really sure where it started nor am I really sure what it is about. There is definitely a failure to communicate.
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The quote of yours i saw that started it seems to have been misunderstood. That said i have alot of respect for your antagonist. More over I dont really care. Finally, lets all have a beer.
hurray