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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Bruv119 on April 21, 2009, 02:18:40 AM
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Hi Guys,
Some input wanted please.
I was wondering how many of you play AH on a wireless LAN, I don't trust gaming with any sort of wireless devices/connection as a hard wired one is obviously desirable.
I'm moving in 2 weeks and the situation with where the phone line comes in and where I want to stick my desk / gaming room is across the hallway. There will be a distance of about 5 metres from where the router will be too my machine. With one thin internal wall inbetween.
If I'm reported to be laggy or not smooth I will have to come up with a better plan but my g/f / landlord won't be impressed with an ethernet cable running around the hallway :eek:.
Thanks
edit: forgot to mention it will be a linksys WAG200, i also have a netgear 834G.
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I used wireless for over 2 years and only recently connected with a wired connection. I never had any warping or lagging issues. I actually connected only connected using a wired connection trying to improve since the last update because I started noticing some stutters, but this did not help and I could probably go back if I wanted to.
Good Luck
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You will probably lose VOX often and/or be garbled over VOX. Occasionally you will drop UDP for TCP.
UDP takes a big hit over a wireless connection as any errors in the bit stream kill the UDP packets. TCP will simply retry. This usually causes stutters in the game as the network pretty much has to stop until the retried packet is successfully sent.
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does the mtu size have any bearing on how many packets could get dropped over wireless?
My ISP decided that the best size for the LLU service to be 1460.
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Generally speaking, the MTU should match whatever your ISP uses. It helps to reduce packet fragmentation.
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I have always played wireless.I had DSL in my old place and had disco issues.I moved to a new apt and now have cable.In 2 months I only had 1 disco.I have the same issues as you as to location an cable routing.I bout a wireless dongle for my new system as cable routing is an issue.MY laptop though is running just fine.
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bruv, i too use wireless. no phone jack exists in the game room. no probs.
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i'm sure it will be fine, will have to keep an eye on it.
Do you use matching brand wireless cards (PCI) or usb dongles?
Going to steal my g/fs belkin Pci card out of my old machine to use with this linksys router.
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i'm sure it will be fine, will have to keep an eye on it.
Do you use matching brand wireless cards (PCI) or usb dongles?
Going to steal my g/fs belkin Pci card out of my old machine to use with this linksys router.
bruv, i've got a 2006 iMac. "airport" is what the wireless icon says. have dsl through qwest. no wireless hardware connects to the computer via usb.
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I'd run the cable and use something like this to make it look purty so the girfriend/landlord don't flip.
http://cableorganizer.com/wiremold/low-voltage-raceways.htm
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PCI if you have to, because USB is essentially a bit rubbish. the less things you have attached by USB the better :aok
anyone tried HomePlug or any other network over mains system? might be worth a look.
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You really should avoid USB connections of any kind for your Internet connection. The interface is way too CPU intensive.
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i was connected to AH via wireless til i just moved, never had a issue, used a Linksys PCI card and a linksys Access Point, replaced the pci cards antenae with a Hawking Hi-gain one.
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You do have issues. You just may not attribute them to the wireless connection. It is impossible not to have some issues, such as the occasional garbled voice, or a slight pause or stutter in the game.
There is no such thing as a 100% error free wireless connection. It cannot happen. It will never happen.
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well i may have had but never noticed them .. most of the problems i did have had to do with my old X2 cpu before i switched to my new phenom cored one. and even with a wired connection i have had TCP/UDP problems so couldnt really say wireless was a issue.
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Not to be argumentative skuzzy, but i never had any noticeable issues with my wireless lan when i was using for AH. I did not get any stutters until the last game update. I am wired directly to the router now and did it as an attempt to reduce the stutters i have but there was no improvement at all.
I have actually noticed no changes between the wired and wireless connection in my home.
I am not sure at this time what model router and PCI card I am using but when i get home rom work tomorrow i can look.
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The moral of Skuzzy's story is correct, you will NEVER have a "100% connection" with Wireless.
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with wired or wireless its all about what your ISP too. i've been on a wired connection before and get booted from AH every 5-10 minutes. been on wireless and never got booted. been on cellular and be hit and miss.
bottom line is no connection is 100% and can have connection problems with any connection. sometimes you get lucky and have no issues. sometimes you have all the issues.
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The moral of Skuzzy's story is correct, you will NEVER have a "100% connection" with Wireless.
while it may never be 100% it may be close enough that the issues are not noticeable.
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while it may never be 100% it may be close enough that the issues are not noticeable.
Which is exactly what Skuzzy said. :huh
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You do have issues. You just may not attribute them to the wireless connection. It is impossible not to have some issues, such as the occasional garbled voice, or a slight pause or stutter in the game.
Thereis not such thing as a 100% error free wireless connection. It cannot happen. It will never happen.
Which is exactly what Skuzzy said. :huh
Looks to me like he said that there are issues that i am blaming on something else when I saw no noticeable issues to blame on anything until the latest update. In other words sounds like the issues were detectable and i was attributing them to something else. In reality i saw no issues. My net status was flat line, i saw no stutters, i had no garbled vox, no warping, and framerates that i have never seen since.
This is the way I took his post.
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Have you tried the usual Ping-Plot to determine if this is a connection issue?
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The simple facts are wireless is a half duplex connection (it cannot send and receive simultaneously), it is prone to interference that wired is not prone too, and it does odd things such as renegotiate speeds mid-connection.
You may also take a CPU hit if you're using WPA2 encryption (which you should be using as all other wireless security except ipsec is a waste of effort).
Wireless will never beat wired as a connection. Wireless is a great backup medium to wired, but I wouldn't game over it.