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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Boxman on April 25, 2009, 12:40:21 AM
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Name'o Dastardly.
All I did was attack a Spit he thought he was entitled to.
I didn't see his name on it, and his bellybutton didn't help out and I ended up gettin waxed.
I will attack any red guys I see at any time and I will not ask permission.
I actually found myself getting REALLY pissed.
Congrats, you got to me.
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Just out of curiousity, was he already engaged with the Spit? If so, you probably aren't going to get lots of sympathy. If he came into your fight it would be a different story.
Essentially what you've said is you'll take any kill you can get regardless of circumstances. Alot of us will ask first so that we don't ruin a good 1 v 1 for someone else.
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All I did was attack a Spit he thought he was entitled to.
I didn't see his name on it, and his bellybutton didn't help out and I ended up gettin waxed.
Anyone else find that comical besides me?
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We both got there at the same time.
Regardless, I like to "pretend" it's a real war.
How many times in WWII did people sit around and watch while their countrymen "dueled," an enemy?
How did it work out for them?
Anyway, it was right over an enemy airfield where cons were upping; etc..
Whatever, I'm attacking unless I see a high con coming in.
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If he was already engaged you are in the wrong and deserved to not have any help. I would have left you to die and then laughed when you did. Also is school out already? I am seeing alot more new ppl.
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I agree with guppy 100%. If he was already engaged you are in the wrong and deserved to not have any help. I would have left you to die and then laughed when you did. Also is school out already? I am seeing alot more new ppl.
Well, if he got any lead on him, he'd get the kill if I took'em out.
This concept is foolish.
Go to the DA or something if you want to dance around the sky like Robin Goodfellow.
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LOL sounds like you are just mad b/c you couldn't handle a 1vs1 maybe you should go to the TA. I also hear there is alot of ganging in the DA maybe that should be where you fly.
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We both got there at the same time.
Regardless, I like to "pretend" it's a real war.
How many times in WWII did people sit around and watch while their countrymen "dueled," an enemy?
How did it work out for them?
With any luck, you'll grow out of this phase and figure out it's a game, and that the challenge is in the fight, not the path of least resistance or in this case being that worked up about getting your pixels waxed.
The second we get to one life and you never get to play again, then you can talk to me about it being a war and flying like it is one. Until then, you have nothing to lose by playing the game. No one really dies and planes are free :)
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If Dastardly was on it, it was dead, period. In "real war" terms, you are more useful keeping watch while building your E-state to deal with any possible incoming additional bandits than trying to shoot the walking, er, flying dead out from in front of Dast.
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Regardless, I like to "pretend" it's a real war.
So you should probably terminate your account after your first death to be 'historically accurate'. :rolleyes:
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Until then, you have nothing to lose by playing the game.
...Except your sanity.
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Box, I'm glad to see you're posting on here actually. You were one of 4 that were ganging me last night.
You're going to find that it's best to leave certain fights alone if they don't ask for help. There's a lot more sport and enjoyment in a 1vs1 fight. This is a game. We play it for the sport and fun.
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Nice to talk to you.
However, you were teh emeny, I don't leave teh emeny alone :devil
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Regardless, I like to "pretend" it's a real war.
There is your problem right there. This ISNT a real war it's a video game. The sooner you learn that the better. Its always best to ask if someone needs help before jumping in. If you don't you might get POed next time your getting ganged and that guy you just stole a kill from is circling the fight laughing at you. Iv done this to people like you many times. But unlike most people Id actually be laughing at you on vox just to piss you off more. Then when the enemy has killed you Id go fight them.
I say this a lot and I sure most 'fighter' vets would agree with it. I would rather die in a good 1v1 then have someone come 'help' me by picking the guy I'm fighting.
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There is your problem right there. This ISNT a real war it's a video game. The sooner you learn that the better. Its always best to ask if someone needs help before jumping in. If you don't you might get POed next time your getting ganged and that guy you just stole a kill from is circling the fight laughing at you. Iv done this to people like you many times. But unlike most people Id actually be laughing at you on vox just to piss you off more. Then when the enemy has killed you Id go fight them.
I say this a lot and I sure most 'fighter' vets would agree with it. I would rather die in a good 1v1 then have someone come 'help' me by picking the guy I'm fighting.
You are all part of the problem. No sense of team.
And I really think this is more about stats and bragging rights than anything else.
I will take help at all times. Every time someone asks if I wnat help, I say yes.
As I get better, I will never get PO'd for someone helping out.
You're gonna sit back and laugh as a teammate gets shot down?
And if it's "just a game," why would you all be getting PO'd at someone jumping in?
I wasn;t the first to get angry here.
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You're gonna sit back and laugh as a teammate gets shot down?
Depending who it is, yes I have.
Nothing is better than clearing a friendly's 12 o'clock and letting the one behind him nail him. :lol
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I will take help at all times. Every time someone asks if I wnat help, I say yes.
The way you're carrying on, I doubt you will have too many people rushing to assist you. :lol
Coogan
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:lol Sounds like someone is setting himself up for a taste of his own medecine.
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We both got there at the same time.
Regardless, I like to "pretend" it's a real war.
How many times in WWII did people sit around and watch while their countrymen "dueled," an enemy?
How did it work out for them?
It happened a lot. I've heard and read many stories about german aces. Their wingman stayed up and checking their 6 while the ace was fighting.
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It happened a lot. I've heard and read many stories about german aces. Their wingman stayed up and checking their 6 while the ace was fighting.
Again, how did that work out for them?
Whatever, I'll just keep doing as I see fit.
Good luck to you godless murderers
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You are all part of the problem. No sense of team.
I don't fly for a team. I switch countries almost every day to find fights. I could say that you're really the problem because you think a cartoon game is a real life war.
You're gonna sit back and laugh as a teammate gets shot down?
I will laugh at someone like you each time you come into range vox while making fun of you.
And if it's "just a game," why would you all be getting PO'd at someone jumping in?
I don't get POed when someone jumps in. I just make it my duty to make sure each time you enter a fight you are being mocked while getting owned.
One other trick I do is after someone has been asked to stay out and comes in anyway the next sortie I will get into a tempest, follow you around, and pick every single fight you get into so you wont get a kill for the rest of the night.
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I will laugh at someone like you each time you come into range vox while making fun of you.
I don't get POed when someone jumps in. I just make it my duty to make sure each time you enter a fight you are being mocked while getting owned.
One other trick I do is after someone has been asked to stay out and comes in anyway the next sortie I will get into a tempest, follow you around, and pick every single fight you get into so you wont get a kill for the rest of the night.
You don't see a contradiction there? Lol
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Again, how did that work out for them?
Guite well...
Erich Hartmann 352
Gerhard Barkhorn 301
Günther Rall 275
Otto Kittel 267
Walter Nowotny 258
Wilhelm Batz 237
Erich Rudorffer 222
Heinz Bär 220
Btw I dont want to say you did something wrong, just wanted to comment your question. :)
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In "real war" terms, if the friendly pilot has the advantage over the enemy plane, then "helping" him by clearing his 12 is a waste of the E you could be saving for actual threats.
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Good luck to you godless murderers
Just because I want to be reincarnated as a woman's bicycle seat doesn't make me godless.
The only thing I'm killing on these forums is time.
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You don't see a contradiction there? Lol
Nope I see a good way to teach some newb a leason. Why should I stay out of any of your fights when after you were asked you still decided to interrupt mine? It shows people like you that if you don't play nice with others they wont play nice back, and you end up crying on the boards because someone didn't feel like helping you after you disrespected him.
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You don't see a contradiction there? Lol
I think it's called 'a taste of your own medicine'. It's a good learning tool for the ignorant.
You can fly however you want for your 2 week trial Boxman, but it's not a real war and it's absurd to play that card to justify 'anything goes' game play.
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Boxman is right, it's his dime and he can play anyway he wants to. He doesn't have to respect anyone else's game ever. He is free to go after everything and every enemy he sees. Why he can even follow an already dead bandit 5K to the ground trying to get enough rounds it to steal it. He's entitled to do all that.
HOWEVER, nobody has to like him, or listen to him, or talk to him, or join any of his missions, or even fly in the same battle with him, let alone help him out when he's in trouble. Heck, we don't even have to acknowledge his existance in the game or on the forums either. Don't have to invite him into a squad in the MA, or FSO for that matter. And no one has to answer his questions about the game, or teach him how to do something, or show him any of the numerous tricks and techniques to win and get kills in the game. There's a whole bunch more the rest of us don't have to do either.
Yup, it's his right to play the game anyway he wants to and he doesn't have to listen or pay any attention to us. Let us know how the works out for ya Boxman. :aok
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Good luck to you godless murderers
I just lol'd soda all over my monitor.
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Just because I want to be reincarnated as a woman's bicycle seat doesn't make me godless.
The only thing I'm killing on these forums is time.
I'd laugh if you came back as a fat chick's seat.
:aok
Squashed and covered in fat chick gash sweat! :lol
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I just lol'd soda all over my monitor.
:rofl :rofl :rofl :confused: :rofl
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IIRC when this happened, all the comments were along the lines of, "if you didn't want him in your fight, you should have called him off" RE: Dastardly.
I too usually don't turn away help. But, if I'm having a good fight or think I have things in hand and see a friendly hovering over head looking to pick, I will ask him to stay out.
In addition, if I'm in the opposite position, high and seeing two cons engaged, I will ask if my countryman needs a hand.
In real life? Like others have said, and others have complained about in other situations, you don't need everyone engaging a single con. How did it work out for them? Besides the previously mentioned aces, other outcomes could be:
Your "wingman" dives down in front of you and gets shot down.
Your "wingman" dives down and another con dives down as well and you both get shot down.
Your "wingman" dives down and misses and you are forced to disengage and the con escapes.
Your "wingman" dives down to engage and an unengaged con is free to fly off and gain a superior position.
It's a game. Common courtesy should compel you to ask if he wants help. It would be nice anyway. It's not like it will kill any one.
wrongway
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On the real early morning hours the other day we had alittle fighter game going on acouple of us put together since there were no fights, while I was flying I was watching Scotch fight Qartr and noticed just really how easy it is to kill a good stick if he is in a even kinda hard fight. Takes no skill to pick someone that is slow, ownage comes when your the slow guy and kill that person picking :rock
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Name'o Dastardly.
All I did was attack a Spit he thought he was entitled to.
I didn't see his name on it, and his bellybutton didn't help out and I ended up gettin waxed.
I will attack any red guys I see at any time and I will not ask permission.
I actually found myself getting REALLY pissed.
Congrats, you got to me.
If you can't handle the heat, stay out of the fire!
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All I did was attack a Spit he thought he was entitled to.
I didn't see his name on it, and his bellybutton didn't help out and I ended up gettin waxed.
(http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww279/stodd602/rickrolld.jpg) :rofl
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Boxman is right, it's his dime and he can play anyway he wants to. He doesn't have to respect anyone else's game ever. He is free to go after everything and every enemy he sees. Why he can even follow an already dead bandit 5K to the ground trying to get enough rounds it to steal it. He's entitled to do all that.
HOWEVER, nobody has to like him, or listen to him, or talk to him, or join any of his missions, or even fly in the same battle with him, let alone help him out when he's in trouble. Heck, we don't even have to acknowledge his existance in the game or on the forums either. Don't have to invite him into a squad in the MA, or FSO for that matter. And no one has to answer his questions about the game, or teach him how to do something, or show him any of the numerous tricks and techniques to win and get kills in the game. There's a whole bunch more the rest of us don't have to do either.
Yup, it's his right to play the game anyway he wants to and he doesn't have to listen or pay any attention to us. Let us know how the works out for ya Boxman. :aok
+1. Well said.
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ive usually said "call it if you want help" but so few players these days seem to have/use vox that ive changed it to "shout if you dont want me to jump in". if I dont hear anything and the guy looks like hes lost advantage i'll jump in and pick. if i'm in a 1v1 and want to keep it that way i'll always call it, never assume we are going to be left to it. its the MA not the DA after all.
btw boxman if dastardly called you off, then give yourself a slap. if not then you did the right thing :aok
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Again, how did that work out for them?
Whatever, I'll just keep doing as I see fit.
Good luck to you godless murderers
:rofl
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ive usually said "call it if you want help" but so few players these days seem to have/use vox that ive changed it to "shout if you dont want me to jump in". if I dont hear anything and the guy looks like hes lost advantage i'll jump in and pick. if i'm in a 1v1 and want to keep it that way i'll always call it, never assume we are going to be left to it. its the MA not the DA after all.
btw boxman if dastardly called you off, then give yourself a slap. if not then you did the right thing :aok
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Boxman, I've flown with Dastrdly and recently too. (He spells it Dastrdly...no A. Unless we're talking about two different Dastards. If so, then disregard this post.) He's a good man to wing with. Since he's not here to defend himself, I'd like to step up for him this time. There are many guys that will check your six and call out to ask if you need help. Dastrdly is one of those guys.
Like RT said, If you need help, ask for it. If you see a green guy engaged with a red guy, ask if they're all set. That's where, IMHO, the sportsmanship comes in.
But, this is you 15 bucks. Play as you like. Just some friendly advice. Not passing judgement.
<S>
Obie
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Name'o Dastardly.
All I did was attack a Spit he thought he was entitled to.
I didn't see his name on it, and his bellybutton didn't help out and I ended up gettin waxed.
I will attack any red guys I see at any time and I will not ask permission.
I actually found myself getting REALLY pissed.
Congrats, you got to me.
if he was already engaged you shoulda asked.
you jump into my fight without asking, and get into trouble......i'm out, and you're down. period.
i expect the same courtesy i extend....and i ALWAYS ask before crashing someone elses fight.
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i try to remember to film every fight. some i forget to hit the record button.
i have plenty of films with me asking countrymen to stay out, and i then shortly thereafter loose my cartoon airplane. it doesn't matter though. they have plenty of spare parts for me. and it was fun. when someone just barges into my "dance" it takes the fun out. if i see that someone start getting into trouble, i exit the fight, and let em suffer the consequences. i then let the bogey rebuild some e, then re-engage.
i have films of me asking. if i'm told to stay off, i generally type on open channel something like " the 38 is out" and then back off to a safe distance to watch the fight...with film running of course.
if i see a guy with 3 or more n him, i stay out. i don't even waste my breath to ask if i'm needed or wanted.
i saw cobia with 2 on him one night, while he was on one. i dropped, and picked one of them off of his six.....i left the one n his 12 alone for him. he got that one too.
what i think some don't understand, is that this is a game. win or lose, is pretty much irrelevant. it's more fun to win of course, but it doesn't matter. it's the fun that's had in the process of getting there.
how can one not enjoy the "dance" that's really what it is sort of when you're both jockeying for position. then some butwipe comes along and ruins the fun?
i understand everyone has fun in different ways, but don't go around trying to ruin someone elses fun for your own. you can find your kind of fun somewhere else on the map.
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Name'o Dastardly.
All I did was attack a Spit he thought he was entitled to.
I didn't see his name on it, and his bellybutton didn't help out and I ended up gettin waxed.
I will attack any red guys I see at any time and I will not ask permission.
I actually found myself getting REALLY pissed.
Congrats, you got to me.
ooo....and you obviously got to him....and what ya deserved too. :D
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I'd like to thank all of my official spokespeople for their replys.
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How many times in WWII did people sit around and watch while their countrymen "dueled," an enemy?
How did it work out for them?
actually it happend alot.
wingman tactics were :1)there was a lead and a wingman,no matter how many were flying in a groupe/squad.
2)the wingmans job was to watch the leads six,not engage the con he was engaged with
they usually flew in squads or groups of squads which were broken up into groups of 2(lead and wingman)
no matter who the groupe/squad leader was each 2man groupe had a lead and a wingman
as for how it worked out for them,use your pc sometime to research ww2 aces.although history explains itself..ie
the allies won the war.
as other people have stated this is a game, not a real war.in the game its just common courtesy to ask someone
if they need help,usually if the friendly knows your there and needs help they will ask you to help.
your not going to make any friends here with attitude youve got,and you probly didnt join the game to make friends,
but you are sure going to make enemys with this kind of gameplay and your gonna miss out on alot the game has to offer.
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I have this simple no hassle rule. If you see me in a fight please join. I can get other kills.
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It's just polite to ask if a guy needs a hand with a con or not. In a furball that's not aways a option, but in a 2 vs 1 communication can be fun and a challenge.
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It's just polite to ask if a guy needs a hand with a con or not. In a furball that's not aways a option, but in a 2 vs 1 communication can be fun and a challenge.
Good rule of thumb, I always ask if someone needs help before interfering and that is because sometimes they might be low on fuel, or maybe out of ammo you never know.
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Anyone else find that comical besides me?
+1 :lol
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Anyone else find that comical besides me?
LMFAO
OWNED
MAN DOWN MAN DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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LMFAO
OWNED
MAN DOWN MAN DOWN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SNIPER IN THE BUSHES. RED TEAM GO , RED TEAM GO!
Anyway, I'm fine with help. Just as long as I'm not 400 off the other guy. :cool:
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When your countryman is close to a con in a 1v1, I think it's best to ask before entering into their fight. Team effort? Staying out and covering his 6 while he fights IS teamwork.
My pet peeve is to close in behind a con, just about to fire and tracers come flying over my shoulder. Now I'm thinking "dang, did I miss a con back there?" and I'm set to break, but NO, it's a friendly firing over my shoulder at the con I worked. I've thought about yanking the stick over and making him killshoot himself, but usually I will just break off and tell them they can have the con, although I am seriously considering letting killshooter weed out the helpful souls who only wanna help me clear my 12 o'clock :P
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i got HO'd. someone never game me a CHECK 6 . someone picked my 1v1. I got shot down by a spixteen. or what ever little cry baby thing i missed (let the flaming begin) ill take a quote from DENIS LEARY off his No Cure for CANCER cd..... '' whing squealing maggots''
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Just yesterday, I upped from an airfield with a guy I really respect in this game (who is usually red). I climbed out to about 7-8k and headed toward the fight with him below me. We engaged a couple of enemy fighters. I took the first down and then I asked the friendly if he needed any help. He replied that he was going down and that I could engage at will... I swooped on in and took out the other bandit too... When I saw the names of the pilots I downed, I recognized them immediately as some of the "good sticks" in this game. It was the proudest moment I've had in AH... It was short lived. It was THEN that my ally told me that they were having sub-3k duels.... doh!
I felt so bad I sent out PMs apologizing for the interruption (coming in from ~8k)...
My point is that even though it's not how I like to play the game (I like wingman tactics / base capture etc...) I respect the fact that not everyone enjoys this game for the same reasons I do. I wouldn't want to intentionally interrupt someone else's fun by picking their 1v1 in the same way I wouldn't want someone else to ruin MY fun by laughing at me when a Spixteen's knocking off my ailerons...
<S> Chin up. It's all fun.
Tim
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SNIPER IN THE BUSHES. RED TEAM GO , RED TEAM GO!
Man I love that movie. :aok
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Depending who it is, yes I have.
Nothing is better than clearing a friendly's 12 o'clock and letting the one behind him nail him. :lol
Hmmm.
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You are all part of the problem. No sense of team.
And I really think this is more about stats and bragging rights than anything else.
I will take help at all times. Every time someone asks if I wnat help, I say yes.
As I get better, I will never get PO'd for someone helping out.
You're gonna sit back and laugh as a teammate gets shot down?
And if it's "just a game," why would you all be getting PO'd at someone jumping in?
I wasn;t the first to get angry here.
Better define sense of team. Would that be people in certain roles at certain times, maybe two guys out winging in their 38s, with one as lead and one as cover. Maybe another pair are working as part of the foursome and covering the area a bit behind and west of the initial pair. Lead 38 spots bogie and rolls in with his wingman covering his six. At this point lead is shooter and wingman is cover. The position is interchangable depending on the situatiuon but the communication is there to not get both locked in on one bird as the wingie is covering his lead's 6 while he is shooter. Maybe the tailing pair of 38s climb a bit above the fight to intercept any help inbound allowing the lead 38 to finish the job.
Sounds like team work to me It's a lot better then 4 guys all vaporlocking on one badguy in their quest for attaboys to land. I get great satisfaction from being able to keep a fellow 38 driver clear while he's hunting. I figure those kills are mine as well if he can fight uninterupted. And if it reaches the point he wants help, I know he'll ask and I'll come in.
Sounds like team
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Boxman is right, it's his dime and he can play anyway he wants to. He doesn't have to respect anyone else's game ever. He is free to go after everything and every enemy he sees. Why he can even follow an already dead bandit 5K to the ground trying to get enough rounds it to steal it. He's entitled to do all that.
HOWEVER, nobody has to like him, or listen to him, or talk to him, or join any of his missions, or even fly in the same battle with him, let alone help him out when he's in trouble. Heck, we don't even have to acknowledge his existance in the game or on the forums either. Don't have to invite him into a squad in the MA, or FSO for that matter. And no one has to answer his questions about the game, or teach him how to do something, or show him any of the numerous tricks and techniques to win and get kills in the game. There's a whole bunch more the rest of us don't have to do either.
Yup, it's his right to play the game anyway he wants to and he doesn't have to listen or pay any attention to us. Let us know how the works out for ya Boxman. :aok
I have to quote this because I hate the snotty little bananas that say "it's my $15, I'll do with it as I please" and expect that this justifies their nonsense.
Yes, you pay $15 to play this game. So does everyone else, cupcake.
You are not special, you are not unique. Every other person here pays the same amount.
It's about respect for others and the spirit of the game.
You paying $15 doesn't give the 'right' to be a avacado. It gives you the 'right' to access a game that consists of hundreds of other players at any one time.
Players who quote their $15, expect to have me neglect giving you a check6 when I'm watching a red guy close in on you. I want him to ruin your fun just as you've ruined it for others.
Expect me to ignore your calls for supplies.
Expect me to ignore your calls for help when you're being ganged.
Those who treat those around them with respect......expect me to not only give you a check6 when I can see trouble heading your way but also to jump in with you and forget everything else.
Expect me to run supplies if I can do so.
Expect me to jump in and clear your 6 should you need the help.
And most importantly, expect me to ask if you need help before jumping in and shooting up that con near you.
Snotty little bastids, it's up to you what you get out this game. Either way, you shall reap as you sew!
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I have to quote this because I hate the snotty little bananas that say "it's my $15, I'll do with it as I please" and expect that this justifies their nonsense.
I took Sloehand's post purely as sarcasm. So, in essence, you got it.
:aok
wrongway
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Better define sense of team. Would that be people in certain roles at certain times, maybe two guys out winging in their 38s, with one as lead and one as cover. Maybe another pair are working as part of the foursome and covering the area a bit behind and west of the initial pair. Lead 38 spots bogie and rolls in with his wingman covering his six. At this point lead is shooter and wingman is cover. The position is interchangable depending on the situatiuon but the communication is there to not get both locked in on one bird as the wingie is covering his lead's 6 while he is shooter. Maybe the tailing pair of 38s climb a bit above the fight to intercept any help inbound allowing the lead 38 to finish the job.
Sounds like team work to me It's a lot better then 4 guys all vaporlocking on one badguy in their quest for attaboys to land. I get great satisfaction from being able to keep a fellow 38 driver clear while he's hunting. I figure those kills are mine as well if he can fight uninterupted. And if it reaches the point he wants help, I know he'll ask and I'll come in.
Sounds like team
SENSE OF TEAM=
clear your contrymans 12 at any cost. :rofl :rofl
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I shot down boxman earlier today, I was hopeing to log on to see a topic about it... :(
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I shot down boxman earlier today, I was hopeing to log on to see a topic about it... :(
Just wait till I get track IR, pedals and a new system, punk :)
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(http://i727.photobucket.com/albums/ww279/stodd602/mmka.jpg) :)
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We both got there at the same time.
Regardless, I like to "pretend" it's a real war.
How many times in WWII did people sit around and watch while their countrymen "dueled," an enemy?
How did it work out for them?
Anyway, it was right over an enemy airfield where cons were upping; etc..
Whatever, I'm attacking unless I see a high con coming in.
Seems pretty straight forward to me. You flew all the way to an enemy field and ignored all the other planes taking off or already up to engage the plane that another friendly was already targeting. I'd guess he just did the smart thing and reoriented on other targets/threats and left you on your own. I tend to ignore other players if they ignore me and/or fail to communicate. Sounds like you got exactly the outcome you deserved...
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I think I have the film of it. I'll try to find it.
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Name'o Dastardly. Affectionately known as......Dick
All I did was attack a Spit he thought he was entitled to. As much as a gobsite** as he is he may well have had just cause
I didn't see his name on it, and his bellybutton didn't help out and I ended up gettin waxed. By that spit or the other uppers?
I will attack any red guys I see at any time and I will not ask permission. You'll learn to be selective
I actually found myself getting REALLY pissed. Use the force not the dark side
Congrats, you got to me.
We both got there at the same time. Are you absolutely sure?
Regardless, I like to "pretend" it's a real war. With that in mind one acts as wing to the other
How many times in WWII did people sit around and watch while their countrymen "dueled," an enemy? I believe that happened under certain circumstances
How did it work out for them? Some one already posted about that
Anyway, it was right over an enemy airfield where cons were upping; etc.. Warning Will Robinson.... Warning!!
Whatever, I'm attacking unless I see a high con coming in. Never mind the high con when you're low near an enemy field. The fresh uppers are the real threat.
OK piss take over and welcome to the wonderfull world of AH & AH BB's. As you can gather by the responses given, interfering on a 1v1 isn't the politest thing to do. It can be a tad annoying having fought a guy for 5 min to have a friendly come cherry pick the enemy of your 12 O'clock. Here's another way to look at the dueled 1v1. Sometimes the opponent is particularly good and you want to pitch your skills against his and it's taken you a few minutes to work his 6, bleed his alt and E only to get robbed of the result. After all you did all the work to get the con at the disadvantage he's in.
There are multi con environments where the other cons should be the priority. Nothing wrong with clearing a friendlies 6 when other baddies are "in" but to clear his 12 with cons about is just wrong and it'll get you both shot down. You'll need his assistance as much as he'll need yours. Let the friendly shoot the con down and take on the baddies coming to rescue their friend. ESPECIALLY IF YOUR CLOSE TO AN ENEMY FIELD. No sense the pair of you being low an slow with 3 or 4 fresh uppers with loads of speed and full clips...so's to speak. Keep your eye's open and what ever alt & E you have. No harm asking the friendly if he needs help but don't expect a response. Not everyone has vox or the mic key configured on their stick.
If your in a big arse furball then just about anything goes. You'll often be to busy to notice if your clearing a friendlies 12 or 6 O'clock.... if it's read its dead.
As for Dick you'll become aware of his antics. :rolleyes:
** See English to American link in my sig just below.
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Just wait till I get track IR, pedals and a new system, punk :)
all that new stuff will just let ya see your death coming much more easily. :aok
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Just wait till I get track IR, pedals and a new system, punk :)
What do you need all that gear for?
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What do you need all that gear for?
He probably figures all the people that keep beating him have all that stuff. I'm sure he just made CH and TrackIR people happy though.
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He probably figures all the people that keep beating him have all that stuff. I'm sure he just made CH and TrackIR people happy though.
I use a laptop and a mouse.
A reliable joystick is all you need really. The rest is just junk that makes you dependant on it and clutters the desk. :)
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No way Nilsen.. It might be only the last 2-3%, but it still adds up to a significant difference. I'm not going back to twisty and I'm pretty sure I won't go back to hat switch or cursor piper once I get trackir going.
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Well, if he got any lead on him, he'd get the kill if I took'em out.
This concept is foolish.
Go to the DA or something if you want to dance around the sky like Robin Goodfellow.
maybe you should take into consideration you are playing with other humans and show some courtesy if the fella is already engaged...otherwise you're just being a theiving arse griefer... :aok
:noid
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No way Nilsen.. It might be only the last 2-3%, but it still adds up to a significant difference. I'm not going back to twisty and I'm pretty sure I won't go back to hat switch or cursor piper once I get trackir going.
Hell, All I use is a 10 yr old MS precision 2 twisty joystick. I have no issues and I kill just fine.
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It's like I said.. With a twisty I could do ~95% of what I do with the pedals. That last 5% is still a substantial difference... It's usually the difference between regular acm and the really precise "h4x" stuff, the exact shots from 600 out, and riding the edge of the envelope that fraction of a second smoother/longer. If I could control the head position with my own head, I'd probably cut down the misses on snapshots with the 152 by about 50%. That's really not insignificant IMO.
This is the same kind of thing as those tiny 100ths of a second per corner that add up to a second per lap in racing. It all adds up.. Discomfort with the way you sit, or if your screen is too bright, or if there's reflections from a light source around you, or noise nearby, or if your pedals or hats are slipping under your feet or hands, or if the controls' geometry or input scaling aren't optimal... It all easily adds up to the difference between the plane doing what you intend it to, and a train wreck.
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I have no issues and I kill just fine.
I'll vouch for THAT! :rock
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Saw Boxman this morning. I easlily dodged his HO and a minute later I put a 30mm in his lap easily.
First tip: Don't HO. It's easy to counter and in the best situation your really only 50/50 to survive, let alone get a good kill.
2nd tip: Keep your SA up. Don't just stop paying attention to someone because you missed. I whipped back towards you as you missed by using the verticle, after that I don't think you even knew I was there. I know f4u's have bad rear views but I was way up on your high 6. If you had seen me you could have defended against my attack
3rd tip: Pay attention to what most of the responses to this thread have been. Plenty of people in this game wouldn't mind helping you improve, but if you keep copping an attitude you'll never get the chance to learn from the best in the game.
have a good day
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Im gona go out on a limb here (kitty kitty) Boxman, i dont think anyone cares if u got "cheesesesed" off.
but i mean that with love and respect.
zuii
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Im gona go out on a limb here (kitty kitty) Boxman, i dont think anyone cares if u got "cheesesesed" off.
but i mean that with love and respect.
zuii
I'll stay on the trunk and say six pages of replies would tend to prove you wrong....I think your branch just broke.
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I'll stay on the trunk and say six pages of replies would tend to prove you wrong....I think your branch just broke.
Did you read the replies?
Oh, and get off the trunk, seems kind of ghey
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Did you read the replies?
Oh, and get off the trunk, seems kind of ghey
Yes I did and tere's a difference between people not agreeing and not caring.
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I don't care.
wrongway
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I don't care.
wrongway
Don't hit me with them negative waves so early in the morning.
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Don't hit me with them negative waves so early in the morning.
:D
I used that in a post once and am pretty sure it sailed right over the guy's head.
wrongway
(still doesn't care)
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You just sold one set of rudder pedals. :aok
It's like I said.. With a twisty I could do ~95% of what I do with the pedals. That last 5% is still a substantial difference... It's usually the difference between regular acm and the really precise "h4x" stuff, the exact shots from 600 out, and riding the edge of the envelope that fraction of a second smoother/longer. If I could control the head position with my own head, I'd probably cut down the misses on snapshots with the 152 by about 50%. That's really not insignificant IMO.
This is the same kind of thing as those tiny 100ths of a second per corner that add up to a second per lap in racing. It all adds up.. Discomfort with the way you sit, or if your screen is too bright, or if there's reflections from a light source around you, or noise nearby, or if your pedals or hats are slipping under your feet or hands, or if the controls' geometry or input scaling aren't optimal... It all easily adds up to the difference between the plane doing what you intend it to, and a train wreck.
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I'm in no way responsible for any train wrecks while you get used to the pedals! :lol
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I'm in no way responsible for any train wrecks while you get used to the pedals! :lol
:rofl :rofl :rofl
Actually it only took about a week to adjust. Then a couple to see just how much more I could do.
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Hey, did this thread get anywhere? On a scale of -0 to +0, where did it go? :rolleyes:
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i got HO'd. someone never game me a CHECK 6 . someone picked my 1v1. I got shot down by a spixteen. or what ever little cry baby thing i missed (let the flaming begin) ill take a quote from DENIS LEARY off his No Cure for CANCER cd..... '' whing squealing maggots''
I don't see anyone crying....I see you being a moron, other than that, seems like a discussion on what defines blatant bad game play. :aok
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Boxman the way you kicked this post off got me laughing this morning... thanks.. :lol
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(http://i117.photobucket.com/albums/o42/DsDsB/cheese.jpg) This thread is Cheesy. Lets move on.
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Hey, did this thread get anywhere? On a scale of -0 to +0, where did it go? :rolleyes:
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LMFAO
I'm glad i logged on today needed a good laugh.
here's what makes me laugh at 'the war' .... 5 or 10 diving on 1-2 all giving up alt advantage (as mentioned in another reply) especially worst when there r only 2 & undetermined enemy force. these tactics in a real life situation would be pretty darn stupid and short lived.
dude if u were anywhere close or even appeared to be looking at a plane i would fly off or stay up.... i don't belittle myself by the need to Miltie attack any single enemy plane. unless u ask nice or scream loud i MAY come to your rescue.
unwanted help is exactly that... i usually pull out of any fight when unwanted help arrives and hope they get waxed. nothing frosts me biscuts more than when some opportunist trys to capitalise on my work - getting target into vulnerable position.
team work is or should be 1 of the 2 staying up in a position to assist with other incoming or if help needed.
unfortunatly in this game most have no problem joining a fight even if its 10 vs 1. you can see it all the time sector wide DAR up & land for 1 enemy. giant conga lines 5-10 all on the tail of some poor slob.
stop looking for the easy kill and you might learn more and better tactics!