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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Yarbles on May 12, 2009, 08:53:43 AM
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Simply because I want to kill other players any way I can because its a war game. I dont get on here that much now and when I do I dont want someone who spends most of their free time in the game telling me how to play it becaue I am supposed to have:
1) Hoed them
2) Picked them
3) Run away
4) Ganaged them
5) Interfered in their exclusive duel outside of the duelling arena.
6) Not flying the plane they think I should fly
etc etc etc etc ;)
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Better de-tune the forum now I hear a train comin :)
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Better de-tune the forum now I hear a train comin :)
No Doubt, The Forum is like channel 200 on steroids!!!
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:uhoh
Seriously though killing real people (in a game) like this is great recreation after a stressfull frustrating day and doing it in a sneaky underhanded and unchivilrous manner can be fun and therapeutic sometimes.
The officianados should accept the place of the dilitant and not keep crying about it or stick to off line sims ;)
I know some people are great skillmeisters in the game but maybe you should push for a gentlemans arena with more rules of conduct and "Fair Play". You seem to gravitat to A V A which in my opinion makes the most ralistic arena the least realisitic with all the bleating on 200 the place is turning into more of DA than a scenario.
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Blargh.... enough with the bloody "why I don't tune 200" threads.
We don't frigging care that you don't care that we think you're lame for HOing or running or picking.
If you're getting called out for these things often enough for it to be a problem for you on 200..... the chances are that you are frigging doing it!
If you're doing it, you're a pain in the butt... that's all there is to it. Ruining the fun of others for the sake of your gratification isn't cool.
If you don't want to listen to people calling it like it is... don't. Why is it necessary to tell us this?
Like I said, if you're getting called out enough on these things for 200 to be a problem for you... you probably do act like a horses rear-end and as such, no one will care that you aren't on 200.
When I play it seems that all the people that get called out on 200 are usually knob-ends. You're probably American, so this might not be as conclusive for you... but still.
This isn't personal, Yarbles, I don't know you. I can't remember fighting you... my response is more of a general reply to the bloody constant stream of bell-ends that come on this forum and whine about why they aren't on 200.
Bottom line is this:
If 200 is a problem for you.... it is very likely that you act like a penace. There are exceptions... and Yarbles may well be one (I have no idea either way).... but a bottom line is still a bottom line and is so for a reason.
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Ive missed more planes listening to 200, so I dont tune. Too distracting. Funny at times, but distracting.
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200 is for two things:
-Discussions regarding breasts
-Pissing in the wind
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Following on from what you said Xanthus my experience of 200 is very different.
Ive never been Hoed other than when I allowed it to happen, I only get picked when I am not practising situational awareness and I dont expect planes that I can out turn easily or outnumber not to run.
In other words I take what is dished out to me and unlike a "your" typical Pom I dont whinge about it. I expect people in the other country to try and kill me and I dont expect everyone in mine to leap to my aid.
Too often you kill someone and find out on 200 they are poor spirited when in defeat. :(
Becuase someone is good at ACM doesnt necessarily mean they have a mature attitiude to the game and the win lose aspect of competition, which is a defect in the universe in general and one I would correct if I could.
This is my personal experience.
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Yarbles. I understand your viewpoint and completely agree. I have not tuned 200 since June of 2007, the month of my start in Aces High. :aok
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If you don't like hearing what you do then either change your ways or don't tune a channel where you'll hear it.
Same for the folks that don't like the way you chose to fly. They can go fly in another area where they can find fights and leave you to others that fly like yourself.
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:uhoh
Seriously though killing real people (in a game) like this is great recreation after a stressfull frustrating day and doing it in a sneaky underhanded and unchivilrous manner can be fun and therapeutic sometimes.
The officianados should accept the place of the dilitant and not keep crying about it or stick to off line sims ;)
I know some people are great skillmeisters in the game but maybe you should push for a gentlemans arena with more rules of conduct and "Fair Play". You seem to gravitat to A V A which in my opinion makes the most ralistic arena the least realisitic with all the bleating on 200 the place is turning into more of DA than a scenario.
yes, it is......except when you get some dork that has to ho ya, rather than use tactics to kill ya. :aok
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In other words I take what is dished out to me and unlike a "your" typical Pom I dont whinge about it. I expect people in the other country to try and kill me and I dont expect everyone in mine to leap to my aid.
Too often you kill someone and find out on 200 they are poor spirited when in defeat. :(
whatcha think you're doing here dude? if you didn't whine, this thread wouldn't exist.
me personally......i don't whine when i lose....unless it's some tard that just ruined a good fight. you know what i mean too.....you just felt like whining today........
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It's a double standard.
He can whine to us about his peeves, but we're not supposed to whine to him... At least not on ch200
The officianados should accept the place of the dilitant and not keep crying about it or stick to off line sims
:huh :lol
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200 is good entertainment when on a long flight but I don't usually keep it tuned. A waste of text space when you need to be aware of whats going on. When they really get POed at you they will PM you. :furious
I've only been PMed once or twice and probaly deserved it but it was fun chasing that enemy through his flak and denying him his kills while trying to land and flying off into the sunset. :D
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It's a double standard.
He can whine to us about his peeves, but we're not supposed to whine to him... At least not on ch200
:huh :lol
Please dont talk about me as if I am not here :D
Yes it is a duel standard but I cant see any other way of giving the other point of view. "Whingeing about the whingers". People who have time to spend taking the game seriously and becoming highly skilled see themselves as the consensus but in fact they are a very vocal minority who try to make rules for the rest.
Of course it is what it is but I can still comment and moderate hopefully the worst excesses ;)
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Please dont talk about me as if I am not here :D
Yes it is a duel standard but I cant see any other way of giving the other point of view. "Whingeing about the whingers". People who have time to spend taking the game seriously and becoming highly skilled see themselves as the consensus but in fact they are a very vocal minority who try to make rules for the rest.
Of course it is what it is but I can still comment and moderate hopefully the worst excesses ;)
Actually they are not making any rules for you. They just point out to others that want a fight to avoid you. You make your own rules as long as HT does not see it as abusive to the game. Your own rules are set by your personal standards be they high or low..
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Actually they are not making any rules for you. They just point out to others that want a fight to avoid you. You make your own rules as long as HT does not see it as abusive to the game. Your own rules are set by your personal standards be they high or low..
This whole personal standards High or Low is nonsense this is a war game not tennis, and a fight is a fight. There is a far too much snobbery and general opinionated nonsense in the game. People using erroneous concepts like personal standards to control how others play so they can turn the game into a DA because people cant control the mix. The point is there are too many variables to control and a fight is a fight.
I think the highly skilled people who want to remove the random element should move into their own arena where they can duel eachother and argue about rules while the majority play war. :D
If I see someone and I have the advantage I will kill them fare fight or not. The real skill is making sure you have that advantage or wingman etc that is what the enviroment is for, that is the dynamic. All you lone rangers should really get together in one place and do your thing and play by your rules. If I see you in the ma trying to land kills, smoking, on fire , low and slow, taking off etc Ill kill you and enjoy it :rofl
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whats not to like about ch200, sometimes it is entertaining and people can comment on fights etc,
if you cant handle a little text warfare then your better off tuning out, sometimes when all the ruffian americans get on, it can get a bit TOO much but all the rest of the time I don't see why you should ignore it.
I have friends and enemies on all sides and personally my gaming experience would be lessened if I couldnt interact with them.
If i'm ever caught on 200 slanging someone (rare) i've probably had a bad day or in a bit of a mood and shouldnt be taken seriously.
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whats not to like about ch200, sometimes it is entertaining and people can comment on fights etc,
In a nutshell all the overgrown teenagers, bad losers and general Sherman Tankers depress me sometimes.
Your probably one of the best couple of pilots in the game and I know even you get accused of all this nonsense. In the end people should wise up to themselves. Why?
Because I say so because like I said I never get picked, Ganged or Hoed so I have nothing to whinge about.
People fly badly make mistakes and then blame everyone else and try to make silly rules, Its pathetic :cry :cry
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well yarbles i'd rather hear all the crybabies than play in total silence not knowing whether people are happy or sad that I just blew them out of the virtual sky ;),
Some games have fascist mods that jump on any sign of horseplay and that takes a little fun out of a GAME don't you think?
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one of the more classy guys in MW from some skwad called the class acts...I think they are now the of course we cheat squad.....we came at each other head on firing and I got hits on him and he smoked my engine up so I ran like a baby to my field ack and loitered there trying to sucker him in for the ack drag kill. He chickened out on that and instead commenced to vultch a C47 in a landing pattern. as a result of this vultch he got his own engine smoked so I figured we were back on even footing and I went after him. of course he bailed out to avoid being killed and I got the kill. guy started to whine like a stuck pig, of course.
Sometimes the cheap smackers are fun to mess with :)
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Some games have fascist mods that jump on any sign of horseplay and that takes a little fun out of a GAME don't you think?
Ok we cant have that. Ill tune in again now and then but my standard reply will be "your dead and I am not" to the whingers.
To the wannabe rule makers and those with the o so high standards I say Bruv can kick all your ***** no problem without telling you how to fight and I can hold his coat :P
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Your own rules are set by your personal standards be they high or low..
At first I was going to disagree with you as this is just a cartoon game but truth is that how a person behaves in the game, especially towards other players (not so much their approach to combat techniques), really does shine a line on their personal character. Having said that, most of the people I come into contact with in-game are good people.
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well what empowers you even more yarbles is to leave it tuned in and not respond to someone purposefully. Then salute them :)
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that how a person behaves in the game, especially towards other players (not so much their approach to combat techniques), really does shine a line on their personal character. Having said that, most of the people I come into contact with in-game are good people.
I agree with this and nothing reflects so badly on a persons character than a failure to accept gracefully their mistake or defeat. When as so often happens they start erroneous rule making and basically accusing the other of cheating it makes me sick. This is equally apparent in the highly skilled and the newb and as much in my opinion among the old lags as the newbs.
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well what empowers you even more yarbles is to leave it tuned in and not respond to someone purposefully. Then salute them :)
:devil I can imagine the veins throbbing in their temples. The salute can be a powerfull form of abuse correctly used :lol
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This whole personal standards High or Low is nonsense this is a war game not tennis, and a fight is a fight. There is a far too much snobbery and general opinionated nonsense in the game. People using erroneous concepts like personal standards to control how others play so they can turn the game into a DA because people cant control the mix. The point is there are too many variables to control and a fight is a fight.
I think the highly skilled people who want to remove the random element should move into their own arena where they can duel eachother and argue about rules while the majority play war. :D
If I see someone and I have the advantage I will kill them fare fight or not. The real skill is making sure you have that advantage or wingman etc that is what the enviroment is for, that is the dynamic. All you lone rangers should really get together in one place and do your thing and play by your rules. If I see you in the ma trying to land kills, smoking, on fire , low and slow, taking off etc Ill kill you and enjoy it :rofl
better idea......hows about you move to another arena? you won't hear the poop on 200 that way.
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better idea......hows about you move to another arena? you won't hear the poop on 200 that way.
Brilliant :aok :rolleyes: :(
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Brilliant :aok :rolleyes: :(
whelp...you're the one that has a problem with everyone else, so it was the only thing that makes any sense.......
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I like cheeseburgers.
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whelp...you're the one that has a problem with everyone else, so it was the only thing that makes any sense.......
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo (Speaking Slowly now) I already explained a vocal minority who try to make rules to control a game that cant be controlled so they can fight the battles they want to fight i.e. the ones they can win. When they dont its you Hoed, You ran, You Picked.
Remember I said I never ger Hoed, picked or rammed. WHY?????
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I ran like a baby to my field ack and loitered there trying to sucker him in for the ack drag kill.
:rofl
Thats all I got out of that post.
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo (Speaking Slowly now) I already explained a vocal minority who try to make rules to control a game that cant be controlled so they can fight the battles they want to fight i.e. the ones they can win. When they dont its you Hoed, You ran, You Picked.
Remember I said I never ger Hoed, picked or rammed. WHY?????
you must be super cartoon pile-it then.
i don't know anyone that hasn't had one of them happen at least once.
i fly into the furballs most of the time.....i almost always die in them. sometimes with kills, smetimes without.
i don't get rammed too often, although i've misjudged closure rates, and did the ramming....i also pm an apology, although i know they took no damage. i don't ho, unless i see tracers coming from your plane first...or ournumbered.........i don't pick....simply because i suck at it. :rofl :rofl
i complain on 200 sometimes, but mostly it's amusement to me.
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Please dont talk about me as if I am not here :D
Yes it is a duel standard but I cant see any other way of giving the other point of view. "Whingeing about the whingers". People who have time to spend taking the game seriously and becoming highly skilled see themselves as the consensus but in fact they are a very vocal minority who try to make rules for the rest.
Of course it is what it is but I can still comment and moderate hopefully the worst excesses ;)
Some people just really like to dogfight...and I am guessing that the game was invented for people with that in mind.... just logging on to grief is something you find in most all of the other online games...and is usually done by 10-13 year olds, you know...find the easiest way to gain score...or simply to just try and get people mad in the most childish way possible...this is the way I look at HO runner types....cowardly lil griefers with no skillset at all to add to the community for the sake of the dogfight....just log on...try and get someone fired up by cheapskating them in the most bushleague way they can think of...and then thinking it's entertaining......lame. :aok
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you must be super cartoon pile-it then.
i don't know anyone that hasn't had one of them happen at least once.
i fly into the furballs most of the time.....i almost always die in them. sometimes with kills, smetimes without.
i don't get rammed too often, although i've misjudged closure rates, and did the ramming....i also pm an apology, although i know they took no damage. i don't ho, unless i see tracers coming from your plane first...or ournumbered.........i don't pick....simply because i suck at it. :rofl :rofl
i complain on 200 sometimes, but mostly it's amusement to me.
Fair play :aok
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Some people just really like to dogfight...and I am guessing that the game was invented for people with that in mind.... just logging on to grief is something you find in most all of the other online games...and is usually done by 10-13 year olds, you know...find the easiest way to gain score...or simply to just try and get people mad in the most childish way possible...this is the way I look at HO runner types....cowardly lil griefers with no skillset at all to add to the community for the sake of the dogfight....just log on...try and get someone fired up by cheapskating them in the most bushleague way they can think of...and then thinking it's entertaining......lame. :aok
I think HO ers usually lack skill and that is the only way they get kills to start with. Most people will develop out of it as it is repetitive and does not yield much satisfaction or score. Like I said I never get Ho ed because I dont fly in front of their guns. If you see a 110 coming toward you you avoid the naughty front end right.
People with no skill arnt the problem for me its people who wont accept death and move on th the next life. Whingers who pretend to be promoting better game play but are really frustrated by their oversetimation of themselves.
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Fair play :aok
:aok
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I think HO ers usually lack skill and that is the only way they get kills to start with. Most people will develop out of it as it is repetitive and does not yield much satisfaction or score. Like I said I never get Ho ed because I dont fly in front of their guns. If you see a 110 coming toward you you avoid the naughty front end right.
People with no skill arnt the problem for me its people who wont accept death and move on th the next life. Whingers who pretend to be promoting better game play but are really frustrated by their oversetimation of themselves.
i actually see quite a few pile-its that have virtually no need to ho, because they really are as good as they think they are.......ho.......a lot. not when outnumbered either. in a 1-1 fight.
that's really the reason ho's piss me off so bad. if it's a noob, i take it with a grain of salt, because he doesn't know any better.,....and if i manage to dodge it, and kill him, i try to pm him, telling him what he did wrong, so he'll be a better fight next time 'round.
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People with no skill arnt the problem for me its people who wont accept death and move on th the next life. Whingers who pretend to be promoting better game play but are really frustrated by their oversetimation of themselves.
seems you are a lil jealous....I fight 1 vs 2's, 1 vs 3's, and 1 vs 4's and 1 vs 4+'s about every time I log on...never am I going to have anything good to say to the person who is 3rd, 4th, 5th+ plane in...it is lame to think that scoring a kill on a con that already has 2, 3, or 4 on him is gratifying.....that is unless your just logging on to grief. :aok
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i understand were your coming from yarbles i think i should detune 200 as well bro <<S>>
P.S. it gets me into fights that i cant win (1v1s)
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seems you are a lil jealous....I fight 1 vs 2's, 1 vs 3's, and 1 vs 4's and 1 vs 4+'s about every time I log on...never am I going to have anything good to say to the person who is 3rd, 4th, 5th+ plane in...it is lame to think that scoring a kill on a con that already has 2, 3, or 4 on him is gratifying.....that is unless your just logging on to grief. :aok
If you havent anything good to say just dont say anything.
I am sure your a good stick but you also are probably exagerating a bit and that makes you vulnerable to anger and frustration when you fall short of your estimation of yourself. You think because you are better than average you have a right to criticise others when it doesnt go your way which of course doesnt for everyone else but you obvilusly think your special.
BTW your not :P
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well at times 200 is a place were thicker skin is usually of benefit. As for what is written...just because you're not tuned doesn't mean it isn't being typed. You then choose to react or let it go. Also not tuning in, obviously as stated. When you put a whole bunch of people together, not everyone is going to play nice in the sandbox. On one hand, I don't really have an issue with people stating how the feel about your (generic) flying. On the other hand, it is annoying when someone jumps on their spouting off about something they only think they fully understand. When conversations start to get personal....well that is a bit different. Generally, people call out HO'ers, Runners, gangers, and pickers on 200. Though I generally don't, I must admit I dislike guys who start a fight, run away to friendly cons, only to engange again when they have buddies. Just me, as it almost seems self defeating in a combat (not war) game.
I think you are taking this all too seriously for the most part. People aren't trying to remove random factors they look forward to the challenges. But where is the random factor in a 6 v 1? What is a random factor about a HO....a runner (maybe he runs to ack instead of 6 buddies?). Some of these things have been called out since AH1 as far as I can remember. Sometimes to put things into perspective, I like to listen to the inverse to see how it sounds.
1. You dweeb, you didn't HO me, we had a fight and you shot my tail off. Best piece of advise, HO everything you see, surest way to win.
2. Hey fighter dweeb, next time run to your ack or your 10 friends. Never try to dogfight, noob.
3. Horde coming, nobody up, let them take this base, we will all go to some random place in the middle of nowhere...and fight no one.
4. Don't waste bullets on planes in the air...only vulch.
Just 3 quick examples. Now imagine that the above 3 are true....and you playing a combat game. I guess number 2, maybe counts as combat, I'll give it that. Now imagine a flight sim combat game built around the idea that the whole objective is to avoid any form of meaningful combat. And then picture someone coming to the BB to saying that they have to detune 200, because they are accused of wanting to have good dogfights.
I really don't think it is about self estimations, but more a frustration of gameplay as a whole. If you did want to go down that route, the self estimation of a runner must be extremly low. Personally, I mostly don't bother calling people out on 200. On the other hand, there is no reason why I have to believe that a 6 v 1 fight is good gameplay, a runner is an good stick/SA master, or HOing is the ultimate form of ACM, or the vulcher is the #1 fighter in the area... nor that any of these have elements of surprise. Would I discourage new players from traveling down this road....you bet. Would I encourage them to learn to fight, manage E, respect other fights, have sportmanship....yes I would.
I admit there is a fine line in this...but a little nudge now and then isn't always a bad thing
Didn't mean to go on this long, I don't know if I'm even on subject anymore :)
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well yarbles i'd rather hear all the crybabies than play in total silence not knowing whether people are happy or sad that I just blew them out of the virtual sky ;),
Some games have fascist mods that jump on any sign of horseplay and that takes a little fun out of a GAME don't you think?
yes Bruv, This thread has a hint of ghey. I'm detuning this thread, and starting another thread. To whine about this thread. I said good day!
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This whole personal standards High or Low is nonsense this is a war game not tennis, and a fight is a fight. There is a far too much snobbery and general opinionated nonsense in the game. People using erroneous concepts like personal standards to control how others play so they can turn the game into a DA because people cant control the mix. The point is there are too many variables to control and a fight is a fight.
Personal standards define everything you do. No difference between one game or another be it tennis, football, or Aces High.
I think the highly skilled people who want to remove the random element should move into their own arena where they can duel eachother and argue about rules while the majority play war. :D .
The DA is full of those that play your style already so that could be suggested to you also and you already have an active arena.
If I see someone and I have the advantage I will kill them fare fight or not. The real skill is making sure you have that advantage or wingman etc that is what the enviroment is for, that is the dynamic. All you lone rangers should really get together in one place and do your thing and play by your rules. If I see you in the ma trying to land kills, smoking, on fire , low and slow, taking off etc Ill kill you and enjoy it :rofl
Again just reflection of the standards you set for yourself. Any 5 year old can HO. Many folks in Ah enjoy the fight, they are not just interested in racking up kills.
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If you havent anything good to say just dont say anything. You think because you are better than average you have a right to criticise others when it doesnt go your way
hmmm....
People who have time to spend taking the game seriously
:rofl look who's taking stuff too seriously....
by the way, whats your ingame name.....want to see if I've run into you.....would make a difference how I replied to your hypocritical whine. :aok
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Personally I find it funny to read peoples skewed and deluded opinion on what just happened. :aok
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I have 200 on at times to talk to a few buds....
I also have a a personal perma squelch....soon as I see 4 names for sure I just squelch. Whether they said ANYTHING worth noting or not...I squelch.
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(http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk121/TheAmish/165638058046904ab157be1.gif)This is the best I could come up with....<shrugs> :D
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Why I dont care if you dont tune to 200....
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You have to admit there are some guys in this game who have nothing better to do than wish they were more adequate. I run into these guys from one squad in particular cough cough DAMAGE inc. Never did anything to these guys who are all vets in AH and somehow they still get BeLiaL envy and have to spout.
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hmmm....
:rofl look who's taking stuff too seriously....
by the way, whats your ingame name.....want to see if I've run into you.....would make a difference how I replied to your hypocritical whine. :aok
Yarbles :D
Just to re iterate:
1) I never get Hoed
2) I hardly ever get rammed
3) If i get ganged I fell popular like a 16 year old girl drunk on cider.
4) People never run from me they only extend.
5) Ive never been picked.
I think in such a realistic random game the skill is to dictate the fight through fliying and situational awareness not by crying and moaning on 200.
For all those who cry and moan about how other people play the game on here and on 200. Your not playing the game properly, stop it now or risk losing my respect :mad: :D :D
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Blargh.... enough with the bloody "why I don't tune 200" threads.
We don't frigging care that you don't care that we think you're lame for HOing or running or picking.
If you're getting called out for these things often enough for it to be a problem for you on 200..... the chances are that you are frigging doing it!
If you're doing it, you're a pain in the butt... that's all there is to it. Ruining the fun of others for the sake of your gratification isn't cool.
If you don't want to listen to people calling it like it is... don't. Why is it necessary to tell us this?
Like I said, if you're getting called out enough on these things for 200 to be a problem for you... you probably do act like a horses rear-end and as such, no one will care that you aren't on 200.
When I play it seems that all the people that get called out on 200 are usually knob-ends. You're probably American, so this might not be as conclusive for you... but still.
This isn't personal, Yarbles, I don't know you. I can't remember fighting you... my response is more of a general reply to the bloody constant stream of bell-ends that come on this forum and whine about why they aren't on 200.
Bottom line is this:
If 200 is a problem for you.... it is very likely that you act like a penace. There are exceptions... and Yarbles may well be one (I have no idea either way).... but a bottom line is still a bottom line and is so for a reason.
:aok
Yup.
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We don't frigging care that you don't care that we think you're lame for HOing or running or picking.
for a reason.
This we dont care is typical of someone who has to huddle together with a herd to feel good about himself.
While I am on the subject its not so much people accuseing me of picking or Hoing when they get killed so much as the general culture that exists among SOME of the players in here and 200.
Complaining about the other side Ho ing or picking or ganging is almost a greeting in the game with what I can only describe as the intellectually and emotionally less well endowed. The need for this cozy we are all in the play the right way gang and their in the play it wrong gang is so depressingly below standards for me.
People start with the ho pick stuff and suddenly everyone who is shot down on "our team" was Hoed picked or ganged. I guess I like people to have a reasonable degree of objectivity and not mindlessly follow the hurd while accusing the Bish, Rook Night opposition.
Let me ask anyone here honestly how often have you ended up sympathising with someone in your squad / country who makes a complete bellybutton of himself , gets killed and then comes out with the Ho, gang pick stuff.
I know the answer to this. I need to accept how feeble minded some people are and how unable they are to see their bias and their instinctive need to huddle in a partial view of the rest to make them feel adequate. Its no good asking them to see what is always out of reach. Many people are self validating and dont need to blame someone everytime it diesnt go their way but can see it as an opportunity to learn. Others just feel their fragile self esteem diminished and have to hit out in its defence even if it means deluding themselves. Get enough of them together and we have a culture of blame and negativity.
I dont get Hoed, Picked, Ganged etc because I am responsible for what happens to me in the game ;)
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yes, it is......except when you get some dork that has to ho ya, rather than use tactics to kill ya. :aok
While I agree about 200 the HO whine is just plain BS its not too hard to avoid one IT TAKES 2 (TWO) to complete a Head on merge, so if you get HO'd you also HO'd.....and if it happens, what you have to re-up a cartoon airplane that people take way to serious.. I also leave 200 off that way I can see my landed kills longer and soak in my l3at pil3it skillz :D just my .02
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While I agree about 200 the HO whine is just plain BS its not too hard to avoid one IT TAKES 2 (TWO) to complete a Head on merge, so if you get HO'd you also HO'd.....and if it happens, what you have to re-up a cartoon airplane that people take way to serious.. I also leave 200 off that way I can see my landed kills longer and soak in my l3at pil3it skillz :D just my .02
ok.....first off.......my online time in the game is so frakkin limited, it's almost wasting my money....but i still like it when i can get in there.
now.......when one comes at you with full intentions of ho'ing, and you try to avoid.....they still remove important parts from you. they DID ho you in that instance. you tried to get out of the way, unsuccessfully. then they claim it wasn't a ho, because you didn't have a guns solution.
the REALLY annoying part of that is that most of those doing it DON'T NEED TO.
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the REALLY annoying part of that is that most of those doing it DON'T NEED TO.
Sha--bang!!, nail on the head :aok :uhoh
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.... if you get HO'd you also HO'd.....
Not true..... only the one who shoots actually HO'd. Head on merge is head on merge not a HO.
... the REALLY annoying part of that is that most of those doing it DON'T NEED TO.
The one HOing does so because he lacks the ability or confidence to enter into a fight or as yarbles has shown, just does not care about anything else.
I would think that most folks play a game to be competitive and have fun. Some just do so to blow off steam. Like I said earlier.... pointing someone out on 200 just lets others know what to look for in that area. If someone does not like that type play they can go elsewhere so they wont waste their time. Others that like that type can go to that area.
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While I agree about 200 the HO whine is just plain BS its not too hard to avoid one IT TAKES 2 (TWO) to complete a Head on merge, so if you get HO'd you also HO'd.....
Your two cents are wrong. It has always been: two to merge, one to make it a HO. Attempt to rewrite definition: DENIED
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Your two cents are wrong. It has always been: two to merge, one to make it a HO. Attempt to rewrite definition: DENIED
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I have 200 on at times to talk to a few buds....
I also have a a personal perma squelch....soon as I see 4 names for sure I just squelch. Whether they said ANYTHING worth noting or not...I squelch.
Wouldnt it be cool for the game to store your squelch list, and keep those persons squelched until you unsquelch them?
Is there a rule about having the word squelch to many times in one sentence? I need a beer.
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Your two cents are wrong. It has always been: two to merge, one to make it a HO. Attempt to rewrite definition: DENIED
:aok :aok
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I get so bored of trying to raise this concept to the surface round here but the MA is not the DA. If you want to ensure you wont get ho'ed or cherry picked etc etc etc go fly in the DA with friends. In the MA if you are not ho'ed by someone, send an S! when they kill you. If you are ho'ed you can just ignore them and replane. Learn to shoot back at someone if its your last option. Learn NOT to put yourself in a possition to get picked off and then complain when it happens. Bad gameplay, in all of your hearts before you even log in. What you get from this is what you choose to see. You dont stand a chance of enjoying the game if your preconception is one of dissapointment and verbal exchanges before you log in. That is there and you will see it every time if you choose to. So many people just being so ungratefull for what we have.
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What Mechanic said above:
:aok :aok :aok :aok
This should be lore in AH.
Put simply:
Rule 1: Fight duels in the DA.
Rule 2: If your in the MA dont try and fight your battles on 200. The MA is a maelstrom of the unpredictable and if you cant cope with that shut up or go to the DA and cry about Hoing etc when you get killed there.
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ok.....first off.......my online time in the game is so frakkin limited, it's almost wasting my money....but i still like it when i can get in there.
now.......when one comes at you with full intentions of ho'ing, and you try to avoid.....they still remove important parts from you. they DID ho you in that instance. you tried to get out of the way, unsuccessfully. then they claim it wasn't a ho, because you didn't have a guns solution.
the REALLY annoying part of that is that most of those doing it DON'T NEED TO.
I am sorry I have to say it doesnt happen to me. (really) Maybe its your style of flying. I am not good enough to give tips but if I see a big gun p[lane like 110, typhy, la7, nikki. huuri 2c etc I stay well clear of the naughty front end. I dont close merge with thembecause they know they have that advantage and might well use it.
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I get so bored of trying to raise this concept to the surface round here but the MA is not the DA. If you want to ensure you wont get ho'ed or cherry picked etc etc etc go fly in the DA with friends. In the MA if you are not ho'ed by someone, send an S! when they kill you. If you are ho'ed you can just ignore them and replane. Learn to shoot back at someone if its your last option. Learn NOT to put yourself in a possition to get picked off and then complain when it happens. Bad gameplay, in all of your hearts before you even log in. What you get from this is what you choose to see. You dont stand a chance of enjoying the game if your preconception is one of dissapointment and verbal exchanges before you log in. That is there and you will see it every time if you choose to. So many people just being so ungratefull for what we have.
soooo......
what you're saying, is that those of us that like to furball, should stop our furball, and go somewhere else when some scoremonger starts circling above and picking from our furball?
i don't think so dude..........
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I am sorry I have to say it doesnt happen to me. (really) Maybe its your style of flying. I am not good enough to give tips but if I see a big gun p[lane like 110, typhy, la7, nikki. huuri 2c etc I stay well clear of the naughty front end. I dont close merge with thembecause they know they have that advantage and might well use it.
actually, the ONLY hurri2c pili-it i know that doesn't ho(at least i haven't seen it in a fight with him) is oldman.
every other hurri2 i've ever fought tries endlessly to set up the ho. BTW...when i flew it , i didn't ho. it's not really fun.
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actually, the ONLY hurri2c pili-it i know that doesn't ho(at least i haven't seen it in a fight with him) is oldman.
every other hurri2 i've ever fought tries endlessly to set up the ho. BTW...when i flew it , i didn't ho. it's not really fun.
Thanks! But actually, I haven't flown the IIC in years, I stick with the Hurri I. By comparison, the IIC is a pig.
- oldman
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Seriously, are you so thin-skinned you can't take 200? Like others have said, if you're getting repeatedly called out for something, it's because you're probably acting like a knob.
Do you cry in real life when someone cracks a joke at you? Sounds like it.
Lighten up, Francis...
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Seriously, are you so thin-skinned you can't take 200? Like others have said, if you're getting repeatedly called out for something, it's because you're probably acting like a knob.
Do you cry in real life when someone cracks a joke at you? Sounds like it.
Lighten up, Francis...
:rofl ...........and IN!
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soooo......
what you're saying, is that those of us that like to furball, should stop our furball, and go somewhere else when some scoremonger starts circling above and picking from our furball?
i don't think so dude..........
I think picking as people put it is classic boom and zoom of a powerfull fast plane against a slower turn plane. Its a valid tactic as is anything and when I furball i accept it or fly looking over my shoulder. I think there is allot of skill in picking off several lower planes without falling in with them and losing an advantage for a dissadvantage. Again its only a matter of the perspective of where you are in the fight.
(Not aimed specifically at you Cap 1). I have to say people who complain about it are basically only happy when the game is going their way. Actually if the game went their way all the time they would be bored so why not generally stop the whingeing. Its a nasty noise and anyone doing it just basically sounds un aware or un enlightened. Another example, If you get killed landing 8 kills you should have checked the field was clear if you had no choice about landing its bad luck. Dont start abusing people just shut up and stop being an A HOLE.
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I get so bored of trying to raise this concept to the surface round here but the MA is not the DA. If you want to ensure you wont get ho'ed or cherry picked etc etc etc go fly in the DA with friends. In the MA if you are not ho'ed by someone, send an S! when they kill you. If you are ho'ed you can just ignore them and replane. Learn to shoot back at someone if its your last option. Learn NOT to put yourself in a possition to get picked off and then complain when it happens. Bad gameplay, in all of your hearts before you even log in. What you get from this is what you choose to see. You dont stand a chance of enjoying the game if your preconception is one of dissapointment and verbal exchanges before you log in. That is there and you will see it every time if you choose to. So many people just being so ungratefull for what we have.
You misread..... of course some are going to HO. There are those that are not equipped to fight and others like yarbles that just don't care. Calling those out that do Ho is fine. It allows those of us who like a good fight to go elsewhere to find it and not waste our time. No harm in that. On the other hand if someone is embarrassed by being called out then maybe they should change their ways. You can tell which folks never go to DA. The DA is a mess of HOing individuals... oh and folks who just don't care.
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and others like yarbles that just don't care.
I actually rarely if ever get accused of Hoing. My point is I dont get Hoed and neither do you. You fly recklessly in front of peoples guns and expect them not to fire!!!! :lol
Interesting point about the DA. I think with a certain attitude you get Hoed wherever you go.
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I have yet to be impressed with anyone with a
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I have yet to be impressed with anyone with a
I wish I new what you meant :noid
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I actually rarely if ever get accused of Hoing. My point is I dont get Hoed and neither do you. You fly recklessly in front of peoples guns and expect them not to fire!!!! :lol
Interesting point about the DA. I think with a certain attitude you get Hoed wherever you go.
That is not what you said in your post. Hmm if you fly a fighter your reckless in any case. Most all HOs i get are 3 or more on one. Many time you up and meet 4 cons and all four try to HO right off the bat. Didn't say they hit me... but they do HO and some do get hits.
I think you do not visit the DA much. The only place for a good fight is way away from the lake with individuals that are like minded..... and we don't HO.
Looking at your posts I think your just going on and on changing your thoughts to provoke and your just grasping at straws.
In any case I am done trying to enlighten you.
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some people should just fly offline sim
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Thanks! But actually, I haven't flown the IIC in years, I stick with the Hurri I. By comparison, the IIC is a pig.
- oldman
I THINK it might be the other oldman then........as this was within the last year, just before i started flying the 38 o deth.
i think ingame was oldman22?
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That is not what you said in your post. Hmm if you fly a fighter your reckless in any case. Most all HOs i get are 3 or more on one. Many time you up and meet 4 cons and all four try to HO right off the bat. Didn't say they hit me... but they do HO and some do get hits.
I think you do not visit the DA much. The only place for a good fight is way away from the lake with individuals that are like minded..... and we don't HO.
Looking at your posts I think your just going on and on changing your thoughts to provoke and your just grasping at straws.
In any case I am done trying to enlighten you.
Like I said I dont get Hoed or ganged but I also dont go charging into a big red Dar on my own. If I see 4 guys I dont rush at them and expect them to fight me one at a time.
Enlighten me :huh
You mean you can convince me every time I make a mistake I should blame someone else because they didnt fight the way I wanted them to :rolleyes:
Let me enlighten you. Take control of the game and if you dont want to be Hoed , Picked or ganged use situational awareness.
If you get low in enemy territory on your own or in a furball dont expect to be able to control the fight. Dont cry about it on 200, you subjected yourself to a random element and it didnt go your way you dont need to make excuses ;)
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I think picking as people put it is classic boom and zoom of a powerfull fast plane against a slower turn plane. Its a valid tactic as is anything and when I furball i accept it or fly looking over my shoulder. I think there is allot of skill in picking off several lower planes without falling in with them and losing an advantage for a dissadvantage. Again its only a matter of the perspective of where you are in the fight.
(Not aimed specifically at you Cap 1). I have to say people who complain about it are basically only happy when the game is going their way. Actually if the game went their way all the time they would be bored so why not generally stop the whingeing. Its a nasty noise and anyone doing it just basically sounds un aware or un enlightened. Another example, If you get killed landing 8 kills you should have checked the field was clear if you had no choice about landing its bad luck. Dont start abusing people just shut up and stop being an A HOLE.
the point i keep trying to make, is that those of us in furballs ENJOY those furballs. we expect to lose our cartoon airplanes. when i look back at some of my films, the way and speed i'm constantly changing views, looks like a nervous crackhead that can;'t decide which way to run. :rofl
i think it's pretty certain to say, that none of us in a furball appreciates being picked.
you tried to say it's good ole bnz? negative on that sir. bnz is going after a conwho's not already engaged, and then bnz'ing him. when you go for anyone already engaged, it's a pick. granted, he should've seen ya comin, but it's a pick nonetheless.
the above isn't aimed at you in particular yarbles......but pickers in general.
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some people should just fly offline sim
like who?
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the point i keep trying to make, is that those of us in furballs ENJOY those furballs. we expect to lose our cartoon airplanes. when i look back at some of my films, the way and speed i'm constantly changing views, looks like a nervous crackhead that can;'t decide which way to run. :rofl
i think it's pretty certain to say, that none of us in a furball appreciates being picked.
you tried to say it's good ole bnz? negative on that sir. bnz is going after a conwho's not already engaged, and then bnz'ing him. when you go for anyone already engaged, it's a pick. granted, he should've seen ya comin, but it's a pick nonetheless.
the above isn't aimed at you in particular yarbles......but pickers in general.
Pick is same as Ho its a question of degree of height and speed. A furball by its nature is unpredictable. You cant rely on skill where there is a random element and therfore luck. Many furballers start at the top bnzing and end up at the bottom running. Its essentially fluid. The Picker is the one you didnt see and that is the bnzers skill in action done right he wont be seen. The furball at its most intense is sensory overlaod and so you cant cover every angle. You get killed from you dont know where and "Oh no Ive been picked". If you had seen it coming you would have broke so come on wise up.
How many people have you heard crying about being picked when they werent looking beihind them how many people went head on into the enemy and then cried about being hoed.
Like I say when people see it for what it is it wont happen to them anymore.
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Cap just give it up. By yarble's own desription he sits out on the edges looking for victims already engaged or damaged. He does not get in the fight or take chances.
Last night several folks from SAPP, me, Corkyjr, Del, stogey, Kjet, crims and a few others went from 63 to A1 for a fight. Big red darbar there..... perfect for those that are looking for a fight. We came in at about 6k and the cons were up around 10 to 12k. Again perfect for a good fight. Even though the cons outnumbered us 2 to 1 we still prevailed and did not lose one 38. That is what good fights are made of. Sitting out on the edges of a fight they never get to see that end of the game.
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Cap just give it up. By yarble's own desription he sits out on the edges looking for victims already engaged or damaged. He does not get in the fight or take chances.
I get stuck in like anyone else I just dont cry about it on 200 when I get killed. If someone shoots me in the face I expect it, If someone bnz's me I expect it. I attempt not to get in that situation. its not always easy and often takes more skill than i have but I know that for example in a furball its unrealisitic to expect a cold merge and then out fly someone else using ACM without someone else getting involved. I mean come on, come on take some responsibility for your skill level and situational awareness. ;)
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Last night several folks from SAPP, me, Corkyjr, Del, stogey, Kjet, crims and a few others went from 63 to A1 for a fight. Big red darbar there..... perfect for those that are looking for a fight. We came in at about 6k and the cons were up around 10 to 12k. Again perfect for a good fight. Even though the cons outnumbered us 2 to 1 we still prevailed and did not lose one 38. That is what good fights are made of. Sitting out on the edges of a fight they never get to see that end of the game.
Yeah good fight because you were able to work together as a team and control the battle. Thats how I fight with my squaddies and they are a bunck of crybabbies too well at least a couple are.
Now listen even if you are on your own and someone get on you with a 4k height advantage and kills you face it you could cry about that and say having a height advantage is cheating. If they have a better plane thats dweebery the list is never ending. You can have a good fight so I hope that sustains yopu when it doesnt go your way and stops you abusing everyone else when you can't hack it because you are low, outnumbered etc. You get into those situations so live with it.
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Pick is same as Ho its a question of degree of height and speed. A furball by its nature is unpredictable. You cant rely on skill where there is a random element and therfore luck. Many furballers start at the top bnzing and end up at the bottom running. Its essentially fluid. The Picker is the one you didnt see and that is the bnzers skill in action done right he wont be seen. The furball at its most intense is sensory overlaod and so you cant cover every angle. You get killed from you dont know where and "Oh no Ive been picked". If you had seen it coming you would have broke so come on wise up.
How many people have you heard crying about being picked when they werent looking beihind them how many people went head on into the enemy and then cried about being hoed.
Like I say when people see it for what it is it wont happen to them anymore.
now see....you seem to not understand furballs. they are fluid to a point, but in any good furball, it may change locations, but generally not alt, as they're usually well below 5k alt. most dedicated furballers don't go in at the top. they fly right into it, pick a can, and go to work(?)
i've returned many times to furballs, and never had any problems with them being higher.
as for looking around......in a furball, you're always looking around. quite often we see the vult....eerr...pickers circling above, but we simply continue our fight.
when i die in a furball, 9 out of 10 times, i know exactly where it came from.
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Cap just give it up. By yarble's own desription he sits out on the edges looking for victims already engaged or damaged. He does not get in the fight or take chances.
Last night several folks from SAPP, me, Corkyjr, Del, stogey, Kjet, crims and a few others went from 63 to A1 for a fight. Big red darbar there..... perfect for those that are looking for a fight. We came in at about 6k and the cons were up around 10 to 12k. Again perfect for a good fight. Even though the cons outnumbered us 2 to 1 we still prevailed and did not lose one 38. That is what good fights are made of. Sitting out on the edges of a fight they never get to see that end of the game.
i wish i coulda been there.....but then you'd have lost at least one 38 in that fight. unfortunatly, i passed out shortly after eating dinner........
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I get stuck in like anyone else I just dont cry about it on 200 when I get killed. If someone shoots me in the face I expect it, If someone bnz's me I expect it. I attempt not to get in that situation. its not always easy and often takes more skill than i have but I know that for example in a furball its unrealisitic to expect a cold merge and then out fly someone else using ACM without someone else getting involved. I mean come on, come on take some responsibility for your skill level and situational awareness. ;)
in furballs, we don't expect cold merges, and know that ho's sometimes happen. pickers should stay away though.......or better yet, pickers should drop in, and stay in for the fun.......it's surprising the rush ya get from even a single kill in that rollercosaster of a fight
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Yeah good fight because you were able to work together as a team and control the battle. Thats how I fight with my squaddies and they are a bunck of crybabbies too well at least a couple are.
Now listen even if you are on your own and someone get on you with a 4k height advantage and kills you face it you could cry about that and say having a height advantage is cheating. If they have a better plane thats dweebery the list is never ending. You can have a good fight so I hope that sustains yopu when it doesnt go your way and stops you abusing everyone else when you can't hack it because you are low, outnumbered etc. You get into those situations so live with it.
yarbles, from your posts, you sound like you would be clueless in a 1 vs 1. :aok
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when i die in a furball, 9 out of 10 times, i know exactly where it came from.
So whats your problem?
If you saw the so called picker why didnt you get out the way?
If you didnt why werent you looking?
If the furball gets big enough how can you tell and what do you expect?
I am sorry but all this Furballers and Pickers distinction is to me a huge simplification to deal with the unpredictable. Some people dont need to understand the world in a them and us way, I know it sounds patronising but that is just how it is. Everyone is playing the game in their own way and this need to form gangs and impose on an imagaingary other is just underdeveloped to me.
The Bish are Horders
The rooks are all alt monkeys.
"The people I know fight fare but there are loads of newbs and tards in the game who HO and Horde and Pick and Fly dweeb planes and spoil the game for me and my right thinking gang of people who agree with me and so we are right about everything"
I mean Jezus christ "Is there life on Mars" :cry
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and shuffler who was there in a sea of red on the deck in a plane i never fly.but i do have to say while i was fighting corky all stayed out of the fight :saluteto all
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think it's pretty certain to say, that none of us in a furball appreciates being picked.
So you expect to fly in a swarm of friendly and enemy planes and engage in a series of 1v1's? :lol
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yarbles, from your posts, you sound like you would be clueless in a 1 vs 1. :aok
Which would prove what exactly?
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So whats your problem?pickers not wanting to leave us to our fight....
If you saw the so called picker why didnt you get out the way?in a furball, when you're low n slow, that gets fairly hard
If you didnt why werent you looking?sometimes i don't see em......no matter how much i'm looking.
If the furball gets big enough how can you tell and what do you expect?how can i tell what? i expect to die, from another one of the furballers.
I am sorry but all this Furballers and Pickers distinction is to me a huge simplification to deal with the unpredictable. Some people dont need to understand the world in a them and us way, I know it sounds patronising but that is just how it is. Everyone is playing the game in their own way and this need to form gangs and impose on an imagaingary other is just underdeveloped to me.
The Bish are Horders
The rooks are all alt monkeys.
"The people I know fight fare but there are loads of newbs and tards in the game who HO and Horde and Pick and Fly dweeb planes and spoil the game for me and my right thinking gang of people who agree with me and so we are right about everything"just an FYI.....i run into many many more vets that are likely to ho, then noobs.
I mean Jezus christ "Is there life on Mars" :cry yes, there probably is....and considering the state f the human race, they're remaining well hidden :rofl
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So you expect to fly in a swarm of friendly and enemy planes and engage in a series of 1v1's? :lol
1-1's in a furball? you're kidding, right?
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1-1's in a furball? you're kidding, right?
No, you must be kidding. Out one side of your mouth you are complaining about being picked in a furball. Out of the other side of your mouth you are saying you know you don't get 1v1 in furballs.
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Cap just give it up. By yarble's own desription he sits out on the edges looking for victims already engaged or damaged. He does not get in the fight or take chances.
Last night several folks from SAPP, me, Corkyjr, Del, stogey, Kjet, crims and a few others went from 63 to A1 for a fight. Big red darbar there..... perfect for those that are looking for a fight. We came in at about 6k and the cons were up around 10 to 12k. Again perfect for a good fight. Even though the cons outnumbered us 2 to 1 we still prevailed and did not lose one 38. That is what good fights are made of. Sitting out on the edges of a fight they never get to see that end of the game.
you're right............
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Whatever else you may be in the game I reckon your a good sport Cap.
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soooo......
what you're saying, is that those of us that like to furball, should stop our furball, and go somewhere else when some scoremonger starts circling above and picking from our furball?
i don't think so dude..........
What I said has nothing to do with furballs or base capture. It has to do with this constant negative vibe being thrown about the forums. The constant complaints when things don't go to one person's expectations. Every day another one of the 'skilled vets' trying to tell us that the game is a disgrace and not even worth paying for any more. 95% of the people complaining about other's skill level in the main arena would not stand a chance in the DA with someone like TonyJoey, a 'squeaker' aged, almost '2-week trial' player who knows more ACM than god. In the few years i've known Joey I have not seen him once complain about gameplay.
How long do you think HTC will take over new patches and updates if all they see is customers complaining about other customers?
If I was them right now, I would take the game and forums OFFLINE comletely for a MONTH and then see who still wants to complain about 'gameplay'.
You misread..... of course some are going to HO. There are those that are not equipped to fight and others like yarbles that just don't care. Calling those out that do Ho is fine. It allows those of us who like a good fight to go elsewhere to find it and not waste our time. No harm in that. On the other hand if someone is embarrassed by being called out then maybe they should change their ways. You can tell which folks never go to DA. The DA is a mess of HOing individuals... oh and folks who just don't care.
Yarbles is an upstanding, polite, fun and friendly member of the arenas. I don't give a damn if his method of killing does not fit my idea of fun. If he ho'ed me tomorrow I would probably say 'HO tard!' in light humour, to which he might ask 'if HO, why didnt you fire back?'
That is in agreement with your post Shuff. If a quick call of hotard to cojule people tog et better or a squelching of 200 to enable the other player just to play how they like was all that was debated in this thread I would have been on your side here.
Instead the thread was instantly twisted so people could complain about GAMEPLAY again. bah. Not only that but the OP was attacked, his words manipulated untill the simple discussion of squelching 200 or not was lost under the 'furballers' side STILL crying about gameplay.
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S! to everyone
Dont bother quoting me, I dont want to argue about my opinion right now nor bump this thread any further.
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Whatever else you may be in the game I reckon your a good sport Cap.
i try to be......because i'm a super crappy pile-it. :rofl
thanks......
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Yarbles is an upstanding, polite, fun and friendly member of the arenas. I don't give a damn if his method of killing does not fit my idea of fun. If he ho'ed me tomorrow I would probably say 'HO tard!' in light humour, to which he might ask 'if HO, why didnt you fire back?'
Look I really appreciate your comments but I dont actually set out to Ho people and rarely even fire on someone front quarter and then typically only because I got my guns to bare first.
Running it down their throat is random and leads all too often to collision, I like to out fly them and stick it to them from beihind. When I am outnumbered like 3 or 4 to one Ill take any shot I can get otherwise I want to kill them and live to tell the tale just like everyone else.
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I have yet to be impressed with anyone with a
I'll rephrase:
I have yet to be impressed with anyone with a (+) precision tag. Used the wrong parantheticals.
Reiner reinforced my impression earlier. Good fight going with many people. I end up on my own on the deck fighting 3 or 4 cons. I avoid the HO with a spit16 that I've been forcing to overshoot for a minute or two. Reiner does not avoid and proceeds to blaze away in a dweeby HO.
Lame gameplay at any time but made even more dweebish since he and friends outnumbered.
I have yet to see a respectable precision player. All I've played with and against seem to be dweebs.
Clear enough?
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I'll rephrase:
I have yet to be impressed with anyone with a (+) precision tag. Used the wrong parantheticals.
Reiner reinforced my impression earlier. Good fight going with many people. I end up on my own on the deck fighting 3 or 4 cons. I avoid the HO with a spit16 that I've been forcing to overshoot for a minute or two. Reiner does not avoid and proceeds to blaze away in a dweeby HO.
Lame gameplay at any time but made even more dweebish since he and friends outnumbered.
I have yet to see a respectable precision player. All I've played with and against seem to be dweebs.
Clear enough?
Interesting because there is allot of crying and wingeing in the squad about picking and HO ing which I dont defend either.
We arnt a tribe, we fly together because we enjoy eachothers company. I suppose you can judge someone by the company he keeps and we are not one of the top fighter squads. When we fly against each other in scrimmage practices their isnt very much hoing if any.
Sometimes when its 4 against one it turns into a feeding frenzy but I think if you end up 4 against one you are doing someithing wrong. I dont think their is anyone in the game who can win 4 against one against experienced players. When we fight "The Few" we know they are massively better than us but they still are at pains to make sure sides are equal. Sure I have fought and killed 4 newbs at once but that isnt what was happening. The 4 players were racinig eachother to kill you as far as they would have been concerned you were just target practice.
You probably dont agree but like I said we can all beat 4 newbs but that wasnt what you wer up against though I suspect like most of us you are tempted to think you are that good and when it didnt work out it was "those dweeebs precision (all 27 of them) and they are all the same a buch of Hoing dweebs". I bet if it was a fair fight you would have killed all 4 and taught them a lesson right :D
Get a grip :(
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Pick is same as Ho its a question of degree of height and speed.
Ummm no.
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Ummm no.
One person says they got the angle first the other says he got Hoed.
One person says he was diving into the furball on someones six the other says he was picked especially if he didnt see who killed him.
Like I said before I have been playing for years and I dont get Hoed and Picked because I take responsibility and dont make excuses.
GOT IT :rolleyes:
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No, you must be kidding. Out one side of your mouth you are complaining about being picked in a furball. Out of the other side of your mouth you are saying you know you don't get 1v1 in furballs.
i've never said a single word complaining about wanting 1-1's in a furball.
i have however said i don't like the pickers hanging up above.
perhaps you should go back and re-read my posts. you'll see that i go into them fully expecting to die......from another furballer. in the big furballs, the ho's don't even really bother me that much, as they're bound to happen in that type of fight. they only bother me in 1-1's.
i don't care if a guy wants to bnz. i don't care if he wants to pick. i don't care if he wants to pick, and try to pass it off as bnz.
i DO care that he has to insist on destroying a good fun furball to do it though. there's plenty of other fights to pick from without having to ruin the furballs.
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One person says they got the angle first the other says he got Hoed.
this is when ya go back and look at the film. i've accused one or two of ho'in me when they didn't need to.....then looked at the film, and found i was wrong.......i've apologized to them too.
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Interesting because there is allot of crying and wingeing in the squad about picking and HO ing which I dont defend either.
We arnt a tribe, we fly together because we enjoy eachothers company. I suppose you can judge someone by the company he keeps and we are not one of the top fighter squads. When we fly against each other in scrimmage practices their isnt very much hoing if any.
Sometimes when its 4 against one it turns into a feeding frenzy but I think if you end up 4 against one you are doing someithing wrong. I dont think their is anyone in the game who can win 4 against one against experienced players. When we fight "The Few" we know they are massively better than us but they still are at pains to make sure sides are equal. Sure I have fought and killed 4 newbs at once but that isnt what was happening. The 4 players were racinig eachother to kill you as far as they would have been concerned you were just target practice.
You probably dont agree but like I said we can all beat 4 newbs but that wasnt what you wer up against though I suspect like most of us you are tempted to think you are that good and when it didnt work out it was "those dweeebs precision (all 27 of them) and they are all the same a buch of Hoing dweebs". I bet if it was a fair fight you would have killed all 4 and taught them a lesson right :D
Get a grip :(
Meah. Does nothing to change how I feel about your squad. Actions speak louder than words and all.
Thanks for the great tip on how ending up in a 4v1 is completely avoidable and that getting HOed while fighting off 4 cons is my fault. :uhoh
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Which would prove what exactly?
which would give insight on why you come to the bbs and try to start a fight defending all things dweeby and even try to brag about being a griefer.....I mean if you don't know how to own, then dweebing and griefing might look fun and entertaining! :aok
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i've never said a single word complaining about wanting 1-1's in a furball.
i have however said i don't like the pickers hanging up above.
Dude, you're all over the map. Pickers hanging above? There's no difference between a guy picking you from an angle than from above. You are still dead. You think you are on some kind of high ground because you call yourself a furballer. Newsflash: you're a picker.
Everyone in a furball picks, otherwise a furball would be a bunch of 1v1's in the same airspace. Getting shot at by guy(s) you aren't engaged with is exactly what makes it a furball. There can not be a furball without picking. Otherwise, again , it would just be a bunch of 1v1's. So complaining about getting picked from any position in a furball is exactly the same as complaining about the furball itself.
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ive been in plenty furballs in all arenas and mosts kills are from killing someone trying to kill someone else.and cap seems funny but everytime i see you your the 1 over the fight in that 38.or in a cv battle with 3 to1 odds
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ive been in plenty furballs in all arenas and mosts kills are from killing someone trying to kill someone else.and cap seems funny but everytime i see you your the 1 over the fight in that 38.or in a cv battle with 3 to1 odds
nah....me thinks ur wrong on this one. i went and tried to pick one night, from a battle between the rooks and bish.......i sucked at it. what i did get though, was a series of fights from cobia, in his a20, which were incredible fun. i lost each one of them too. i did get one good snapshot on him, but in doing so, i gave up the fight, as i realized later.
yes, you have seen me in cv battles, and yes i have been fairly well outnumbered too.
you are right about when the kills come in the furballs. that's usually when i get whacked....when i concentrate on a con too long. that's also when i get them.
if ever you see me coming in high, it's because most probably, the rest of the cons are up there too.
the last time i was on, i was flying over fightertown. found a couple good low fights. then got picked. returned, and the guy was waiting......waaay up hi. i lost that fight. i came back higher, and was co-alt to him.......and his buddies. that's when i go up hi, as i don't yet know how to fight against a higher con that knows what he's doing.
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Dude, you're all over the map. Pickers hanging above? There's no difference between a guy picking you from an angle than from above. You are still dead. You think you are on some kind of high ground because you call yourself a furballer. Newsflash: you're a picker.
Everyone in a furball picks, otherwise a furball would be a bunch of 1v1's in the same airspace. Getting shot at by guy(s) you aren't engaged with is exactly what makes it a furball. There can not be a furball without picking. Otherwise, again , it would just be a bunch of 1v1's. So complaining about getting picked from any position in a furball is exactly the same as complaining about the furball itself.
noooooo......now you're trying to change definitions. if a furball is a big group of pickers, then you have to allow yarble's re-definitioon of picking or bnz'ing..........
a furball is a free for all. it's a madhouse. it's fun. usually.
if i were picking in a furball, i'd fly through it...most likely from high......take a shot, and continue through it. that is a pick.
tracking you, taking a shot, then turning off because your wingie is on my six, the either re-acquiring you, or another con, is remaining in the furball, and is furballing. in furballs, i can hit the bad guy sometimes.......i have tried picking,.....and i suck at it. i suck at the setup, and i generally miss the shot. i realize it takes skill......it's not one i find enjoyable, from the receiving or giving end.
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noooooo......now you're trying to change definitions.
Wrong. My defintion is dead on and it has been the same for the 10+ years I've been playing flight sims. EVERYONE in a furball picks, period.
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Now listen even if you are on your own and someone get on you with a 4k height advantage and kills you face it you could cry about that and say having a height advantage is cheating. If they have a better plane thats dweebery the list is never ending. You can have a good fight so I hope that sustains yopu when it doesnt go your way and stops you abusing everyone else when you can't hack it because you are low, outnumbered etc. You get into those situations so live with it.
I prefer being 5k or less and my opponent coming in higher. That is what I look for all the time. To prevail in such an instance is fun and I do prevail way more often that not. I fly in aces high for the fight.... kills just come with the territory. I usually get out of the way of a HO'er but there are times.... like coming out of another fight at 80 mph in my 38 or fighting 3 or 4 and have them all turning in on themselves.
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yarbles dont bother .your right the list goes on if its not the plane its the alt not the alt its a horde .i hunt for the hordes all the time i dont mind 3 or more thats how i have fun in the game.yes i always die but thats fine its the fight thats fun and i have to hear the crap about the plane i fly.......and yes i fly the hurri 2 the way i see it they would love to see me spend 5 seconds or more pumping 50 cals to kill something
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How about if those crying foul in the furballs stopped and thought for a moment once in a while?
"Oh, that guy in the 10k P51D has just got here, I expect he will want to take a few pop shots and burn some fuel before he starts turning fight."
Not
"Oh nice pick loser, bet you couldnt fight your way out of a nursery."
The first time anyone makes a pass that happen to connect with you.
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One person says they got the angle first the other says he got Hoed.
One person says he was diving into the furball on someones six the other says he was picked especially if he didnt see who killed him.
Like I said before I have been playing for years and I dont get Hoed and Picked because I take responsibility and dont make excuses.
GOT IT :rolleyes:
A pick and a HO are not the same thing.
Pick- when your already engaged with an enemy and another enemy comes in and kills you.
HO- Head on.
GOT IT? :rolleyes:
For someone who's "been playing for years" im surprised you didnt know that...
You've been playing for years and havent ever been HO'd?!?!?! - I find that unbelievable sorry. Mabey you dont make exscuses about it or dont whine about it but that wouldnt mean that you didnt get HO'd.
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I'll rephrase:
I have yet to be impressed with anyone with a (+) precision tag. Used the wrong parantheticals.
Reiner reinforced my impression earlier. Good fight going with many people. I end up on my own on the deck fighting 3 or 4 cons. I avoid the HO with a spit16 that I've been forcing to overshoot for a minute or two. Reiner does not avoid and proceeds to blaze away in a dweeby HO.
Lame gameplay at any time but made even more dweebish since he and friends outnumbered.
I have yet to see a respectable precision player. All I've played with and against seem to be dweebs.
Clear enough?
:rofl :rofl
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Meah. Does nothing to change how I feel about your squad. Actions speak louder than words and all.
Thanks for the great tip on how ending up in a 4v1 is completely avoidable and that getting HOed while fighting off 4 cons is my fault. :uhoh
Dont expect a fair fight 4 v 1 as far as the 4 are concerned they are just raceing to kill you. If you dont like it dont get in that situation if you do dont cry about it.
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which would give insight on why you come to the bbs and try to start a fight defending all things dweeby and even try to brag about being a griefer.....I mean if you don't know how to own, then dweebing and griefing might look fun and entertaining! :aok
The logic is presumably because you are a better pilot than me you can tell me how to play the game properly and I am not allowed to object. A bit like the ignorant school bully who just because he has grown bigger than everyone else thinks quite rightly he can push them around along with his gang of like minded ignoramases. Because they are a group and agree this re inforces the whole argument. When someone tells them they are wrong this person is seen as dictating to them!!!
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A pick and a HO are not the same thing.
Pick- when your already engaged with an enemy and another enemy comes in and kills you.
HO- Head on.
GOT IT? :rolleyes:
For someone who's "been playing for years" im surprised you didnt know that...
You've been playing for years and havent ever been HO'd?!?!?! - I find that unbelievable sorry. Mabey you dont make exscuses about it or dont whine about it but that wouldnt mean that you didnt get HO'd.
(Patiently) I never said a pick or a Ho are the same thing or if I did I appologise. The idea is they are both open to interpretation.
Dont get in a position to take a front shot if you dont like it.
Look behind you.
Fight your battles with skill in the arena not with words in here or on 200,
People taslk about personal conduct and dweebery. The worst conduct I see in this game and the greatest dweebery is that of the bad loser who wont accept defeat and starts crying on 200 and making excuses. Its a very challenging enviromentso rise to the challenge and stop trying to make it easier.
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The logic is presumably because you are a better pilot than me you can tell me how to play the game properly and I am not allowed to object. A bit like the ignorant school bully who just because he has grown bigger than everyone else thinks quite rightly he can push them around along with his gang of like minded ignoramases. Because they are a group and agree this re inforces the whole argument. When someone tells them they are wrong this person is seen as dictating to them!!!
and yet, here you are on the bb, trying to tell everyone else how to play the game properly, and presumably, we're not allowed to object?
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and yet, here you are on the bb, trying to tell everyone else how to play the game properly, and presumably, we're not allowed to object?
I thought I was telling everyone not to tell everyone else how to play the game but there is a logic in what your saying.
The challenge with that logic is "Dont tell me not to tell you not to tell me what to do"
My general point has to be accept people dont fly how you want them to and work around it rather than make a nasty crying whingeing noise when you get killed by them. In other words see how people fly as part of the terain you cant change and work for the outcome you want with that in mind. ;)
Criticising and accusing people all the time just makes eventually for a negative unpleasant atmosphere and is hugely subjective anyway.
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The logic is presumably because you are a better pilot than me you can tell me how to play the game properly and I am not allowed to object. A bit like the ignorant school bully who just because he has grown bigger than everyone else thinks quite rightly he can push them around along with his gang of like minded ignoramases. Because they are a group and agree this re inforces the whole argument. When someone tells them they are wrong this person is seen as dictating to them!!!
Seems your telling folks how or where they should fly not the other way around.
In another post you tell someone else to fly in the arena with skill.... what would you know about that if you just Ho.
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Look at that great advice. I expect nothing less from such a stellar group.
[/sarcasm]
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I thought I was telling everyone not to tell everyone else how to play the game but there is a logic in what your saying.
The challenge with that logic is "Dont tell me not to tell you not to tell me what to do"
My general point has to be accept people dont fly how you want them to and work around it rather than make a nasty crying whingeing noise when you get killed by them. In other words see how people fly as part of the terain you cant change and work for the outcome you want with that in mind. ;)
Criticising and accusing people all the time just makes eventually for a negative unpleasant atmosphere and is hugely subjective anyway.
kinda scary, ain't it?
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There's no difference between a guy picking you from an angle than from above. You are still dead. You think you are on some kind of high ground because you call yourself a furballer. Newsflash: you're a picker.
Everyone in a furball picks, otherwise a furball would be a bunch of 1v1's in the same airspace. Getting shot at by guy(s) you aren't engaged with is exactly what makes it a furball. There can not be a furball without picking. Otherwise, again , it would just be a bunch of 1v1's. So complaining about getting picked from any position in a furball is exactly the same as complaining about the furball itself.
QFT!
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Dude, you're all over the map. Pickers hanging above? There's no difference between a guy picking you from an angle than from above. You are still dead. You think you are on some kind of high ground because you call yourself a furballer. Newsflash: you're a picker.
Everyone in a furball picks, otherwise a furball would be a bunch of 1v1's in the same airspace. Getting shot at by guy(s) you aren't engaged with is exactly what makes it a furball. There can not be a furball without picking. Otherwise, again , it would just be a bunch of 1v1's. So complaining about getting picked from any position in a furball is exactly the same as complaining about the furball itself.
P-51 barreling in at 450mph....Co-E HurrIIc cutting across your turn circle...Hmmm...I wonder which has more chance of successfully "picking" you...Yet the former is "evil" while the latter is acceptable. :devil
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P-51 barreling in at 450mph....Co-E HurrIIc cutting across your turn circle...Hmmm...I wonder which has more chance of successfully "picking" you...Yet the former is "evil" while the latter is acceptable. :devil
I am not sure I understand this but I did think the 51 is specifially best at this style of fighting and may charge in the first time but then move closer to a co E state as it continues to harass the intended victim. Now if the victim doesnt want to be atacked from above by a faster plane I think they should go to the DA or an arena like mid or early war where the fights are smaller and easier to understand from a situational awareness point of view.
Alternatively stop complaining ;)
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Alternatively stop complaining ;)
right back atcha there bud....... :aok
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This BS post is still going on WTF?
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This BS post is still going on WTF?
does louisiana still smell like rotten eggs?
:devil
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This BS post is still going on WTF?
THE OP RESURRECTED IT
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This BS post is still going on WTF?
Its because people keep posting I think ;)
Anyway its a different perspective in My opinion.
Typical Post is :
"I dont know why I am still paying my subscription to this game when its full of pickers and HO tards. Back in the good old days everyone loved each other and played nicely"
This is followed by:
"I feel your pain brother but pleeeeeeeease dont leave. I am sure that things will get better one day and we will all live happily ever after".
And people say this is a bull S post!!
Everything I have been involved in whatever game including my own squad inevitably and in a very short period of time after creation/formation we hear the above.
( "I dont know why I am still in this squad back in the good old days we used to work toghether now everyone is out for themselves"
This is followed by:
"I feel your pain brother but pleeeeeeeease dont leave. I am sure that things will get better one day and we will all live happily ever after".)
or some other version and this has often started long before I have even joined.
The answer is as follows in My opinion.
1) Most people look back through rose tinted glasses and so things were better in the past as they remember their great exploits and triumphs and spin those together in their mind not focusing on past frustrations. (Would you rather remember your last painfull dental appointment or your last victory for the team).
2) Secondly if you dont evolve in the game it gets repetitive and boring so that the triumphs do not out weigh the frustartions and boredom anymore.
All this has to be bourne in mind if you are to attempt to judge the people in the game and how it is evolving over time.
Now anyone might say so what? I actually like whingeing, making excusses, blaming others for my shortcomings and flouncing about on here to see if people care about my prescence.
I say to develop and grow you need to have a reasonabley objecive assesment of yourself and circumstances espcially if you want to progress. If you are backward looking you will tend to stagnate and then destroy the game for yourself that you have hitherto enjoyed.
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I'm a dork and missed the part where ch200 is detunable.
yup. :aok
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yup. :aok
:rofl :rofl
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yup. :aok
I am going to tune in from now on if you are always this funny :rolleyes:
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I am going to tune in from now on if you are always this funny :rolleyes:
I R teh funny! :devil
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I R teh funny! :devil
:cry :cry :cry :pray
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i am going to hoe everyone i see :lol :lol :D
by the way Yarbles is a southern softie :D
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i am going to hoe everyone i see :lol :lol :D
by the way Yarbles is a southern softie :D
Its true and therefore everything i have said is refuted. However my esteemed Squaddie Kvuo was only saying to me last night.
"When anyone gets shot down on 200 its never never never ever their fault"
200 is still the crybaby channel.
BTW Zack what are you doing digging up my ancient threads :uhoh are you stalking me :noid :D :D
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<--- bad mood.
Blargh.... enough with the bloody "why I don't tune 200" threads.
We don't frigging care that you don't care that we think you're lame for HOing or running or picking.
If you're getting called out for these things often enough for it to be a problem for you on 200..... the chances are that you are frigging doing it!
If you're doing it, you're a pain in the butt... that's all there is to it. Ruining the fun of others for the sake of your gratification isn't cool.
If you don't want to listen to people calling it like it is... don't. Why is it necessary to tell us this?
Like I said, if you're getting called out enough on these things for 200 to be a problem for you... you probably do act like a horses rear-end and as such, no one will care that you aren't on 200.
When I play it seems that all the people that get called out on 200 are usually knob-ends. You're probably American, so this might not be as conclusive for you... but still.
This isn't personal, Yarbles, I don't know you. I can't remember fighting you... my response is more of a general reply to the bloody constant stream of bell-ends that come on this forum and whine about why they aren't on 200.
Bottom line is this:
If 200 is a problem for you.... it is very likely that you act like a penace. There are exceptions... and Yarbles may well be one (I have no idea either way).... but a bottom line is still a bottom line and is so for a reason.
ho and cherry pick a few people, you will feel better i promise
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ho and cherry pick a few people, you will feel better i promise
Snicker Snicker :lol
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Yes :D
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:noid
Anyway get on if you can tonight though I wont be around till 9.30 ish. We have switched to Rooks now and there not quite a whingey as the nits were.
Still if I miss the crybaby stuff I just tune to 200 ;)
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:noid
Anyway get on if you can tonight though I wont be around till 9.30 ish. We have switched to Rooks now and there not quite a whingey as the nits were.
Still if I miss the crybaby stuff I just tune to 200 ;)
I'm sure you'll get your fill of crybaby stuff from ch2. (i'd prefer being able to detune 2 than 200).
:aok
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I is not here...
:noid