Why I dont tune to 200

[Yarbles]

whelp...you're the one that has a problem with everyone else, so it was the only thing that makes any sense.......

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo (Speaking Slowly now) I already explained a vocal minority who try to make rules to control a game that cant be controlled so they can fight the battles they want to fight i.e. the ones they can win. When they dont its you Hoed, You ran, You Picked.

Remember I said I never ger Hoed, picked or rammed. WHY?????

[Dinan]

I ran like a baby to my field ack and loitered there trying to sucker him in for the ack drag kill.

 

Thats all I got out of that post.

[CAP1]

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo (Speaking Slowly now) I already explained a vocal minority who try to make rules to control a game that cant be controlled so they can fight the battles they want to fight i.e. the ones they can win. When they dont its you Hoed, You ran, You Picked.

Remember I said I never ger Hoed, picked or rammed. WHY?????

you must be super cartoon pile-it then.

i don't know anyone that hasn't had one of them happen at least once.


 i fly into the furballs most of the time.....i almost always die in them. sometimes with kills, smetimes without.

 i don't get rammed too often, although i've misjudged closure rates, and did the ramming....i also pm an apology, although i know they took no damage. i don't ho, unless i see tracers coming from your plane first...or ournumbered.........i don't pick....simply because i suck at it. 

 i complain on 200 sometimes, but mostly it's amusement to me.

[SkyRock]

Please dont talk about me as if I am not here

Yes it is a duel standard but I cant see any other way of giving the other point of view. "Whingeing about the whingers". People who have time to spend taking the game seriously and becoming highly skilled see themselves as the consensus but in fact they are a very vocal minority who try to make rules for the rest.

Of course it is what it is but I can still comment and moderate hopefully the worst excesses

Some people just really like to dogfight...and I am guessing that the game was invented for people with that in mind.... just logging on to grief is something you find in most all of the other online games...and is usually done by 10-13 year olds, you know...find the easiest way to gain score...or simply to just try and get people mad in the most childish way possible...this is the way I look at HO runner types....cowardly lil griefers with no skillset at all to add to the community for the sake of the dogfight....just log on...try and get someone fired up by cheapskating them in the most bushleague way they can think of...and then thinking it's entertaining......lame.

[Yarbles]

you must be super cartoon pile-it then.

i don't know anyone that hasn't had one of them happen at least once.


 i fly into the furballs most of the time.....i almost always die in them. sometimes with kills, smetimes without.

 i don't get rammed too often, although i've misjudged closure rates, and did the ramming....i also pm an apology, although i know they took no damage. i don't ho, unless i see tracers coming from your plane first...or ournumbered.........i don't pick....simply because i suck at it. 

 i complain on 200 sometimes, but mostly it's amusement to me.

Fair play

[Yarbles]

Some people just really like to dogfight...and I am guessing that the game was invented for people with that in mind.... just logging on to grief is something you find in most all of the other online games...and is usually done by 10-13 year olds, you know...find the easiest way to gain score...or simply to just try and get people mad in the most childish way possible...this is the way I look at HO runner types....cowardly lil griefers with no skillset at all to add to the community for the sake of the dogfight....just log on...try and get someone fired up by cheapskating them in the most bushleague way they can think of...and then thinking it's entertaining......lame.

I think HO ers usually lack skill and that is the only way they get kills to start with. Most people will develop out of it as it is repetitive and does not yield much satisfaction or score. Like I said I never get Ho ed because I dont fly in front of their guns. If you see a 110 coming toward you you avoid the naughty front end right.

People with no skill arnt the problem for me its people who wont accept death and move on th the next life. Whingers who pretend to be promoting better game play but are really frustrated by their oversetimation of themselves.     

[CAP1]

Fair play

[CAP1]

I think HO ers usually lack skill and that is the only way they get kills to start with. Most people will develop out of it as it is repetitive and does not yield much satisfaction or score. Like I said I never get Ho ed because I dont fly in front of their guns. If you see a 110 coming toward you you avoid the naughty front end right.

People with no skill arnt the problem for me its people who wont accept death and move on th the next life. Whingers who pretend to be promoting better game play but are really frustrated by their oversetimation of themselves.     

i actually see quite a few pile-its that have virtually no need to ho, because they really are as good as they think they are.......ho.......a lot. not when outnumbered either. in a 1-1 fight.

 that's really the reason ho's piss me off so bad. if it's a noob, i take it with a grain of salt, because he doesn't know any better.,....and if i manage to dodge it, and kill him, i try to pm him, telling him what he did wrong, so he'll be a better fight next time 'round.

[SkyRock]

People with no skill arnt the problem for me its people who wont accept death and move on th the next life. Whingers who pretend to be promoting better game play but are really frustrated by their oversetimation of themselves.     

seems you are a lil jealous....I fight 1 vs 2's, 1 vs 3's, and 1 vs 4's and 1 vs 4+'s about every time I log on...never am I going to have anything good to say to the person who is 3rd, 4th, 5th+ plane in...it is lame to think that scoring a kill on a con that already has 2, 3, or 4 on him is gratifying.....that is unless your just logging on to grief.

[ACE]

i understand were your coming from yarbles i think i should detune 200 as well bro <<S>>


     P.S. it gets me into fights that i cant win (1v1s)

[Yarbles]

seems you are a lil jealous....I fight 1 vs 2's, 1 vs 3's, and 1 vs 4's and 1 vs 4+'s about every time I log on...never am I going to have anything good to say to the person who is 3rd, 4th, 5th+ plane in...it is lame to think that scoring a kill on a con that already has 2, 3, or 4 on him is gratifying.....that is unless your just logging on to grief.

If you havent anything good to say just dont say anything.

I am sure your a good stick but you also are probably exagerating a bit and that makes you vulnerable to anger and frustration when you fall short of your estimation of yourself. You think because you are better than average you have a right to criticise others when it doesnt go your way which of course doesnt for everyone else but you obvilusly think your special.

BTW your not  

[pluck]

well at times 200 is a place were thicker skin is usually of benefit.  As for what is written...just because you're not tuned doesn't mean it isn't being typed.  You then choose to react or let it go.  Also not tuning in, obviously as stated.  When you put a whole bunch of people together, not everyone is going to play nice in the sandbox.  On one hand, I don't really have an issue with people stating how the feel about your (generic) flying.  On the other hand, it is annoying when someone jumps on their spouting off about something they only think they fully understand.  When conversations start to get personal....well that is a bit different.  Generally, people call out HO'ers, Runners, gangers, and pickers on 200.  Though I generally don't, I must admit I dislike guys who start a fight, run away to friendly cons, only to engange again when they have buddies.  Just me, as it almost seems self defeating in a combat (not war) game. 

I think you are taking this all too seriously for the most part.  People aren't trying to remove random factors they look forward to the challenges.  But where is the random factor in a 6 v 1?  What is a random factor about a HO....a runner (maybe he runs to ack instead of 6 buddies?).  Some of these things have been called out since AH1 as far as I can remember.  Sometimes to put things into perspective, I like to listen to the inverse to see how it sounds.

1.  You dweeb, you didn't HO me, we had a fight and you shot my tail off.  Best piece of advise, HO everything you see, surest way to win.
2.  Hey fighter dweeb, next time run to your ack or your 10 friends.  Never try to dogfight, noob.
3.  Horde coming, nobody up, let them take this base, we will all go to some random place in the middle of nowhere...and fight no one.
4.  Don't waste bullets on planes in the air...only vulch.

Just 3 quick examples.  Now imagine that the above 3 are true....and you playing a combat game. I guess number 2, maybe counts as combat, I'll give it that.  Now imagine a flight sim combat game built around the idea that the whole objective is to avoid any form of meaningful combat. And then picture someone coming to the BB to saying that they have to detune 200, because they are accused of wanting to have good dogfights.

I really don't think it is about self estimations, but more a frustration of gameplay as a whole.  If you did want to go down that route, the self estimation of a runner must be extremly low.  Personally, I mostly don't bother calling people out on 200. On the other hand, there is no reason why I have to believe that a 6 v 1 fight is good gameplay, a runner is an good stick/SA master, or HOing is the ultimate form of ACM, or the vulcher is the #1 fighter in the area... nor that any of these have elements of surprise.  Would I discourage new players from traveling down this road....you bet.  Would I encourage them to learn to fight, manage E, respect other fights, have sportmanship....yes I would.

I admit there is a fine line in this...but a little nudge now and then isn't always a bad thing

Didn't mean to go on this long, I don't know if I'm even on subject anymore

[crazyivan]

well yarbles i'd rather hear all the crybabies than play in total silence not knowing whether people are happy or sad that I just blew them out of the virtual sky   ,

Some games have fascist mods that jump on any sign of horseplay and that takes a little fun out of a GAME don't you think?

yes Bruv, This thread has a hint of ghey.  I'm detuning this thread, and starting another thread. To whine about this thread. I said good day!

[Shuffler]

This whole personal standards High or Low is nonsense this is a war game not tennis, and a fight is a fight. There is a far too much snobbery and general opinionated nonsense in the game. People using erroneous concepts like personal standards to control how others play so they can turn the game into a DA because people cant control the mix. The point is there are too many variables to control and a fight is a fight.

Personal standards define everything you do. No difference between one game or another be it tennis, football, or Aces High.

I think the highly skilled people who want to remove the random element should move into their own arena where they can duel eachother and argue about rules while the majority play war. .

The DA is full of those that play your style already so that could be suggested to you also and you already have an active arena.

If I see someone and I have the advantage I will kill them fare fight or not. The real skill is making sure you have that advantage or wingman etc that is what the enviroment is for, that is the dynamic. All you lone rangers should really get together in one place and do your thing and play by your rules. If I see you in the ma trying to land kills, smoking, on fire , low and slow, taking off etc Ill kill you and enjoy it       

Again just reflection of the standards you set for yourself. Any 5 year old can HO. Many folks in Ah enjoy the fight, they are not just interested in racking up kills.

[SkyRock]

If you havent anything good to say just dont say anything.  You think because you are better than average you have a right to criticise others when it doesnt go your way

hmmm....

    People who have time to spend taking the game seriously

    look who's taking stuff too seriously....

by the way, whats your ingame name.....want to see if I've run into you.....would make a difference how I replied to your hypocritical whine.