Why I dont tune to 200

[CAP1]

One person says they got the angle first the other says he got Hoed.

this is when ya go back and look at the film. i've accused one or two of ho'in me when they didn't need to.....then looked at the film, and found i was wrong.......i've apologized to them too.

[bongaroo]

Interesting because there is allot of crying and wingeing in the squad about picking and HO ing which I dont defend either.

We arnt a tribe, we fly together because we enjoy eachothers company. I suppose you can judge someone by the company he keeps and we are not one of the top fighter squads. When we fly against each other in scrimmage practices their isnt very much hoing if any.

Sometimes when its 4 against one it turns into a feeding frenzy but I think if you end up 4 against one you are doing someithing wrong. I dont think their is anyone in the game who can win 4 against one against experienced players. When we fight "The Few" we know they are massively better than us but they still are at pains to make sure sides are equal. Sure I have fought and killed 4 newbs at once but that isnt what was happening. The 4 players were racinig eachother to kill you as far as they would have been concerned you were just target practice.

You probably dont agree but like I said we can all beat 4 newbs but that wasnt what you wer up against though I suspect like most of us you are tempted to think you are that good and when it didnt work out it was "those dweeebs precision (all 27 of them) and they are all the same a buch of Hoing dweebs". I bet if it was a fair fight you would have killed all 4 and taught them a lesson right

Get a grip      

Meah.  Does nothing to change how I feel about your squad.  Actions speak louder than words and all.

Thanks for the great tip on how ending up in a 4v1 is completely avoidable and that getting HOed while fighting off 4 cons is my fault.  

[SkyRock]

Which would prove what exactly?

which would give insight on why you come to the bbs and try to start a fight defending all things dweeby and even try to brag about being a griefer.....I mean if you don't know how to own, then dweebing and griefing might look fun and entertaining!

[Steve]

i've never said a single word complaining about wanting 1-1's in a furball.

i have however said i don't like the pickers hanging up above.

Dude, you're all over the map. Pickers hanging above? There's no difference between a guy  picking you from an angle than from above. You are still dead. You think you are on some kind of high ground because you call yourself a furballer. Newsflash:  you're a picker.

Everyone in a furball picks, otherwise a furball would be a bunch of 1v1's in the same airspace. Getting shot at by guy(s) you aren't engaged with is exactly what makes it a furball. There can not be a furball without picking. Otherwise, again ,  it would just be a bunch of 1v1's.  So complaining about getting picked from any position in a furball is exactly the same as complaining about the furball itself.

[lazydog]

ive been in plenty furballs in all arenas and mosts kills are from killing someone trying to kill someone else.and cap seems funny but everytime i see you your the 1 over the fight in that 38.or in a cv battle with 3 to1 odds

[CAP1]

ive been in plenty furballs in all arenas and mosts kills are from killing someone trying to kill someone else.and cap seems funny but everytime i see you your the 1 over the fight in that 38.or in a cv battle with 3 to1 odds

nah....me thinks ur wrong on this one. i went and tried to pick one night, from a battle between the rooks and bish.......i sucked at it. what i did get though, was a series of fights from cobia, in his a20, which were incredible fun. i lost each one of them too. i did get one good snapshot on him, but in doing so, i gave up the fight, as i realized later.

 yes, you have seen me in cv battles, and yes i have been fairly well outnumbered too.

 you are right about when the kills come in the furballs. that's usually when i get whacked....when i concentrate on a con too long. that's also when i get them.

 if ever you see me coming in high, it's because most probably, the rest of the cons are up there too.

 the last time i was on, i was flying over fightertown. found a couple good low fights. then got picked. returned, and the guy was waiting......waaay up hi. i lost that fight. i came back higher, and was co-alt to him.......and his buddies. that's when i go up hi, as i don't yet know how to fight against a higher con that knows what he's doing.

[CAP1]

Dude, you're all over the map. Pickers hanging above? There's no difference between a guy  picking you from an angle than from above. You are still dead. You think you are on some kind of high ground because you call yourself a furballer. Newsflash:  you're a picker.

Everyone in a furball picks, otherwise a furball would be a bunch of 1v1's in the same airspace. Getting shot at by guy(s) you aren't engaged with is exactly what makes it a furball. There can not be a furball without picking. Otherwise, again ,  it would just be a bunch of 1v1's.  So complaining about getting picked from any position in a furball is exactly the same as complaining about the furball itself.

noooooo......now you're trying to change definitions. if a furball is a big group of pickers, then you have to allow yarble's re-definitioon of picking or bnz'ing..........


a furball is a free for all. it's a madhouse. it's fun. usually.

if i were picking in a furball, i'd fly through it...most likely from high......take a shot, and continue through it. that is a pick.

 tracking you, taking a shot, then turning off because your wingie is on my six, the either re-acquiring you, or another con, is remaining in the furball, and is furballing. in furballs, i can hit the bad guy sometimes.......i have tried picking,.....and i suck at it. i suck at the setup, and i generally miss the shot. i realize it takes skill......it's not one i find enjoyable, from the receiving or giving end.

[Steve]

noooooo......now you're trying to change definitions.

Wrong. My defintion is dead on and it has been the same for the 10+ years I've been playing flight sims.  EVERYONE in a furball picks, period.

[Shuffler]

Now listen even if you are on your own and someone get on you with a 4k height advantage and kills you face it you could cry about that and say having a height advantage is cheating. If they have a better plane thats dweebery the list is never ending. You can have a good fight so I hope that sustains yopu when it doesnt go your way and stops you abusing everyone else when you can't hack it because you are low, outnumbered etc. You get into those situations so live with it.     

I prefer being 5k or less and my opponent coming in higher. That is what I look for all the time. To prevail in such an instance is fun and I do prevail way more often that not. I fly in aces high for the fight.... kills just come with the territory. I usually get out of the way of a HO'er but there are times.... like coming out of another fight at 80 mph in my 38 or fighting 3 or 4 and have them all turning in on themselves.

[lazydog]

yarbles dont bother .your right the list goes on if its not the plane its the alt not the alt its a horde .i hunt for the hordes all the time i dont mind 3 or more thats how i have fun in the game.yes i always die but thats fine its the fight thats fun and i have to hear the crap about the plane i fly.......and yes i fly the hurri 2 the way i see it they would love to see me  spend 5 seconds or more pumping 50 cals to kill something

[mechanic]

How about if those crying foul in the furballs stopped and thought for a moment once in a while?

"Oh, that guy in the 10k P51D has just got here, I expect he will want to take a few pop shots and burn some fuel before he starts turning fight."

Not

"Oh nice pick loser, bet you couldnt fight your way out of a nursery."


The first time anyone makes a pass that happen to connect with you.

[stodd]

One person says they got the angle first the other says he got Hoed.

One person says he was diving into the furball on someones six the other says he was picked especially if he didnt see who killed him.

Like I said before I have been playing for years and I dont get Hoed and Picked because I take responsibility and dont make excuses.

GOT IT

A pick and a HO are not the same thing.
Pick- when your already engaged with an enemy and another enemy comes in and kills you.
HO- Head on.
    GOT IT?
For someone who's "been playing for years" im surprised you didnt know that...

You've been playing for years and havent ever been HO'd?!?!?! - I find that unbelievable sorry. Mabey you dont make exscuses about it or dont whine about it but that wouldnt mean that you didnt get HO'd.

[klingan]

I'll rephrase:

I have yet to be impressed with anyone with a (+) precision tag.  Used the wrong parantheticals.
Reiner reinforced my impression earlier.  Good fight going with many people.  I end up on my own on the deck fighting 3 or 4 cons.  I avoid the HO with a spit16 that I've been forcing to overshoot for a minute or two.  Reiner does not avoid and proceeds to blaze away in a dweeby HO.

Lame gameplay at any time but made even more dweebish since he and friends outnumbered.

I have yet to see a respectable precision player.  All I've played with and against seem to be dweebs.

Clear enough?

 

[Yarbles]

Meah.  Does nothing to change how I feel about your squad.  Actions speak louder than words and all.

Thanks for the great tip on how ending up in a 4v1 is completely avoidable and that getting HOed while fighting off 4 cons is my fault.  

Dont expect a fair fight 4 v 1 as far as the 4 are concerned they are just raceing to kill you. If you dont like it dont get in that situation if you do dont cry about it.   

[Yarbles]

which would give insight on why you come to the bbs and try to start a fight defending all things dweeby and even try to brag about being a griefer.....I mean if you don't know how to own, then dweebing and griefing might look fun and entertaining!

The logic is presumably because you are a better pilot than me you can tell me how to play the game properly and I am not allowed to object. A bit like the ignorant school bully who just because he has grown bigger than everyone else thinks quite rightly he can push them around along with his gang of like minded ignoramases. Because they are a group and agree this re inforces the whole argument. When someone tells them they are wrong this person is seen as dictating to them!!!