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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: bobtom on June 02, 2009, 03:38:07 PM
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The HE-111!! :D :D :aok
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A26. I want something halfway decent on which I can spend my bomber perks.
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I think EW Soviet aircraft would be the best way to compliment the Buffalo.
I'm pretty happy with what we're getting though :D
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Brewster...OMG who's list was this on???.....even the PBY was a better idea!
999000 <S>
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I think EW Soviet aircraft would be the best way to compliment the Buffalo.
I'm pretty happy with what we're getting though :D
EW Japanese aircraft are in much shorter supply. At least there's enough Lend-Lease craft to fill the gaps for early Eastern Front scenarios. In PTO we have the 1944 Ki-67 substituting for the G4M in 1942, and absolutely NO EW IJAAF fighter.
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^^ You need the Oscar. :)
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(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/223/505787572_0da831a673.jpg?v=0)
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The HE-111!! :D :D :aok
and the G4M Betty,
and the I-16 Rata,
and the KI-43 Oscar,
and the TBD Devastator,
and the Halifax, Blenheim or other EW British bomber . . .
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and the G4M Betty,
and the I-16 Rata,
BRING ON THE FLAPERONS and the 20mm in the tail.
We also need a Mig-3, a LaGG, an Oscar, and a Randy( :lol).
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All we need is............?
The Mig would be nice too! But it is nice to see where the Buffalo roam!!!
We also need a Mig-3, a LaGG, an Oscar, and a Randy( :lol).
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The Mig would be nice too!
:aok
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Brewster...OMG who's list was this on???.....even the PBY was a better idea!
999000 <S>
Most of those who voted have left the game already
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Now with the Brewster all we need is.... someone to fly them.
Anyone say that yet? :lol
A26 or Oscar would have been a better choice.
This plane will rot in the MA hanger IMO unless they over model it.
Have fun w it in FSO or snapshot.
Specifications (F2A-3)
General characteristics
* Crew: One, pilot
* Length: 26 ft 4 in (8.03 m)
* Wingspan: 35 ft (10.7 m)
* Height: 12 ft 1 in (3.68 m)
* Wing area: 208.9 ft² (19.408 m²)
* Empty weight: 4,732 lb (2,146 kg)
* Max takeoff weight: 6,321 lb (2,867 kg)
Performance
* Maximum speed: 284 mph at sea level, 321 mph at 16,500 ft (457 km/h, 516 km/h)
* Cruise speed: 171 mph (275 km/h)
* Range: 1,680 mi (2,703 km)
* Service ceiling: 30,000 ft (9,144 m)
* Rate of climb: 2,440 ft/min[5] The initial rate of climb would be further reduced with completely full petrol tanks.</ref> (744 m/min)
[edit] Armament
* 2 × 0.50 in (12.7 mm) nose-mounted M2 machine guns
* 2 × 0.50 in (12.7 mm) wing-mounted M2 machine guns
* 2 × 100 lb (45 kg) underwing bombs
or maybe
* 1 × 0.30 in Browning AN machine gun and 1 × 0.50 in M2 Browning machine gun in the fuselage, with additional 2 × 0.50 in M2 wing-mounted machine guns for combat operations
* In Finnish service: 4 × 0.50 in (12.7 mm) Browning M2 machine guns
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I-16 would be very welcome in EW, imho
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I-16 would be very welcome in EW, imho
EW has only one plane... The hurri
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EW has only one plane... The hurri
Because we havnt I-16 yet ;)
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Now with the Brewster all we need is.... someone to fly them.
:rofl :rofl :rofl
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Because we havnt I-16 yet ;)
And I-15 also...
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Re: Now with the Brewster all we need is....
...a target painted on its wings!
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I'm gonna fly the whole tour with it once it's released. :aok
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I've got to admit, even the rather dweebish Late-War loving, Spit16 loving me, that Brewster does look fun :D
For a follow-up, I think the A-26 should be the next plane to get added.
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Me-410
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We definatly need more Jap planes and imho they should be prio 1.
As for bombers yes the HE-111 should be the next bomber.
A good prio list would be.
1. 2-3 EW/MW Jap planes.
2. HE-111
3. EW/MW Russian.
4. Italian planes..
Tex
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/IAR80.jpg/300px-IAR80.jpg)
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(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a5/IAR80.jpg/300px-IAR80.jpg)
We're already getting terrain that looks just like that, so stop putting pictures of the terrain please. ;)
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Now with the Brewster all we need is.... someone to fly them.
Anyone say that yet? :lol
A26 or Oscar would have been a better choice.
This plane will rot in the MA hanger IMO unless they over model it.
Have fun w it in FSO or snapshot.
Oscar?
You realize that the crowd that would fly the Oscar would be largely the same as, except for smaller than those that will fly the Buffalo?
Not to say the the Oscar doesn't sound sweet.
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Bubi.. try and focus here.. Pacific.. FSO.. Scenario.. you know.. that OTHER theater. :)
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Bubi.. try and focus here.. Pacific.. FSO.. Scenario.. you know.. that OTHER theater. :)
What other theater? You mean the war took place elsewhere other than Europe? That's news to me...
:D
Not to say the the Oscar doesn't sound sweet.
I didn't mean the Oscar wouldn't be a good addition, I just found it odd that he was complaining about a hangar queen and suggesting the Ki 43.
The Ki 43 would be really cool IMO.
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One of my favorite planes in Air Warrior to fly was the Oscar. From what I remember, it was a fairly popular plane. Not exactly as popular as some of the American birds but many kills were had with it and for some, their primary ride. The Oscar of AW had enough speed and maneuverability to compete with the rest of the AW's plane set....unlike the Brewster.
I love my FM-2. If it's anything like it...and I don't think it is, my personal opinion of it might be changed.
From what I gather the Brewster we're getting is an American made, stripped down low production Swedish version that somehow ended up under Nazi control.
Quote from another thread. http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,265934.msg3317328.html#msg3317328
A Finnish variant of the F2A, the VL (Valtion Lentokonetehdas) Humu was intended as a replacement for the Finnish Air Force's worn-out F2A-1 Buffalo fighters, which could not be replaced due to poor wartime availability of imported combat aircraft. The most significant changes from the original F2A-1 were a wooden wing (necessary due to material shortages) and a Russian M-63 engine purchased from Germany. The project soon fell behind schedule and the Humu proved to be inferior to the F2A-1 due to a higher aircraft weight, among other factors . Only one aircraft was delivered, and it never entered Finnish service. [History by Jeff VanDerford with significant contributions by P. Kojo and Sampo Vuorinen.]
The Brewster is about as Finnish as baseball.
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From what I gather the Brewster we're getting is an American made, stripped down low production Swedish version that somehow ended up under Nazi control.
:rofl
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Oscar?
You realize that the crowd that would fly the Oscar would be largely the same as, except for smaller than those that will fly the Buffalo?
Not to say the the Oscar doesn't sound sweet.
The Oscar wouldn't be anymore of a hanger queen than the Zero, since the Oscar is basically the IJAAF version of the Zeke.
ack-ack
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The Oscar wouldn't be anymore of a hanger queen than the Zero, since the Oscar is basically the IJAAF version of the Zeke.
ack-ack
I would agree, except for the significant armament difference, unless they modeled the version with 20mm cannons.
Even then usually the Zero you see is the 1944 A6M5b.
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He-111 is required for a BoB scenario...
Also, an update of the 110s would be great - IIRC the 110C we have now is a very rare version, i may be mistaken though.
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From what I gather the Brewster we're getting is an American made, stripped down low production Swedish version that somehow ended up under Nazi control.
You really should go back to school and get more history lessons. Please, check facts before you start insulting people.
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You really should go back to school and get more history lessons. Please, check facts before you start insulting people.
Really didn't think I was insulting anyone... But I'll give it a shot.
Why did the Swedes think it was a good idea to fight for the allies but put a Swastika on a plane we gave them to build? Blond moment maybe?
Should have got a few with that one. :rofl
sorry, could'nt help myself heheh. Not here to insult anyone :angel:
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Really didn't think I was insulting anyone... But I'll give it a shot.
Why did the Swedes think it was a good idea to fight for the allies but put a Swastika on a plane we gave them to build? Blond moment maybe?
1) Brewsters were not Swedish planes. They were Finnish Airforce planes assembled in Sweden before they were flown to Finland.
2) Sweden did not fight for Allies or for anyone. They were neutral.
3) USA did not give Brewsters, they sold them.
Finns and Swedes were not nazis. FAF swastika is not a nazi symbol.
Don't embarrass yourself any further ;)
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Sweden and Finland are two different countries.
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/AK_Comrade/FinlandandSwedenaredefinitelythesam.jpg)
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(https://www.glastonburyus.org/staff/countst/PublishingImages/welcome%20to%20geo%20pic.jpg) :rofl
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1) Brewsters were not Swedish planes THEY WERE AMERICAN. They BECAME Finnish Airforce planes assembled in Sweden before they were flown to Finland.
2) Sweden did not fight for Allies or for anyone. They were neutral. AND WERE ONLY PLAYING A JOKE ON THE FINNS
3) USA did not give Brewsters, they sold them.WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF ADDING SWASTKAS TO IT I IMAGINE
Finns and Swedes were not nazis. FAF swastika is not a nazi symbol. AND THE CROSS DOES NOT REPRESENT CHRISTIANITY SINCE IT WAS USED IN OTHER CULTURES PRIOR TO JESUS
Don't embarrass yourself any further ;) NO ROOM FOR EMBARRASSMENT AS THE LAUGHTER HAS TAKEN OVER.
I'm taking the history of this thread as about as serious as I want to. No matter how confusing, the Brewster is in the AH plane set and part of the fun about it is trying to figure out why it's here and which side it will fly for in FSO
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I imagine they will fly for Finland.
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Sweden and Finland are two different countries.
(http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t5/AK_Comrade/FinlandandSwedenaredefinitelythesam.jpg)
It is all Swedinland to us foolish Americans.
(http://www.jigsawlounge.co.uk/kungfu/world/world-usa2003.gif)
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Sorry Tools, I did not realize how young you are :)
You spell quite nicely though.
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"WITHOUT THE CONSENT OF ADDING SWASTKAS TO IT I IMAGINE"
The United States would have expected the FAF to change the roundel that they had been using for 22 years why?
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Don't embarrass yourself any further ;)
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Just stop Tools. You're not getting out of this one.
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Just stop Tools. You're not getting out of this one.
Oh I'm just having fun. In the end, if it's anything like the F4F's it might be a worthwhile and challenging plane to fly against the uber planes on occasion.
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Here's a rough comparison with Brewster and some other fighters with similar performance. AH weights have been used where available (100% fuel). Brewster speed on the deck is based on my extrapolation from existing data for continuos (850hp) power setting. It might be suprise to some people that Brewster actually isn't the slowest plane on the deck...
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/Wmaker/Comparison.jpg)
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Wow, that looks pretty nice. May be worth noting that the only aircraft significantly faster than it on that list is from 1943, and it has the best armament beside the Hurricane MKIIC.
Based on that chart I would say it may be a fairly popular plane for furballing.
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This is a evil commie plane! I see stars in it. Who would ever fly it. :mad:
(http://www.historylink101.com/ww2photo/p-51-mustang.jpg)
:D :angel:
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Here's a rough comparison with Brewster and some other fighters with similar performance. AH weights have been used where available (100% fuel). Brewster speed on the deck is based on my extrapolation from existing data for continuos (850hp) power setting. It might be suprise to some people that Brewster actually isn't the slowest plane on the deck...
(http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f147/Wmaker/Comparison.jpg)
Thanks for the chart, very informative. Do you maybe have an idea how the Brewster stacks up in terms of endurance/range to the Wildcat?
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Do you maybe have an idea how the Brewster stacks up in terms of endurance/range to the Wildcat?
IIRC, FM-2's (haven't really flown F4F much) E6B shows around 25mins of endurance in the MA when you firewall the throttle. For the Brewster in the same situation I'm guessing it'll show roughly 44mins. So with 75% fuel Model 239 will have healthy half an hour of flight time.
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I-16 would be very welcome in EW, imho
Yeah. Now you need an early war Soviet fighter, at least for Brewster Events. Most of all since the Brewster probably isn't going to end up all that popular on its own. If its paired up with the Soviet fighters it actually fought in history then the whole thing should bring more players at least into EWA and maybe the MWA.
Special events where the Brewster fights its actual opponents would be a lot of fun. Which means AH has some modeling to do. The I-16 would be a good start. I suspect buzzing around in that would attract a following.
Personally I wish we had every airplane that ever saw combat in the war and twice the Historical events. Pretty much the only missions I fly in LWA are the Historically accurate ones.
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IIRC, FM-2's (haven't really flown F4F much) E6B shows around 25mins of endurance in the MA when you firewall the throttle. For the Brewster in the same situation I'm guessing it'll show roughly 44mins. So with 75% fuel Model 239 will have healthy half an our of flight time.
Excellent! Thanks!
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I would like to see more tanks on this game we only have like 6 or 5 and we have like 20 planes especially an American tank
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20 planes? we got a lot more than that
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Might want to check your math, bravo.
I just counted 78 aircraft and 15 GVs (including the PT boat).
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Jesus...people are never happy are they :rolleyes:
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Im talking about TANKS not m3s etc. however many planes we got we need more tanks
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(http://www.airsceneuk.org.uk/airshow01/constanta/iar80.jpg)
(http://ui31.gamespot.com/1214/deadhorsebeat_2.gif)
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Ki-43
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This is a evil commie plane! I see stars in it. Who would ever fly it. :mad:
(http://www.historylink101.com/ww2photo/p-51-mustang.jpg)
:D :angel:
The Victors. :)
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(http://ui31.gamespot.com/1214/deadhorsebeat_2.gif)
I'm sorry Treize, but that is definitely not a Buffalo, and I do not recall there being a plane named "Beating a Dead Horse". Who was the manufacturer?
</joking>
I do not know much about the IAR 80, care to elaborate?
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