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Title: Arma 2
Post by: Swoop on June 21, 2009, 07:17:18 PM
is infuriating.

Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Fishu on June 21, 2009, 07:34:02 PM
That is the most descriptive comment ever.
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Vulcan on June 21, 2009, 08:15:33 PM
elaborate please swoop cos I was gonna buy it.
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Swoop on June 21, 2009, 08:47:00 PM
Bought the retail version, not via steam, came as v1.01.  Everything looked pretty good, good framerates, etc.  AI little....um....sharp but gameplay otherwise ok.

patch 1.02, released yesterday, has calmed down the supershot abilities of the AI and fixed some campaign bugs, however, now my graphics are messed up.  High LOD textures for an object get loaded on a random rotating wossname, I can be stood next to something looking at it and 30 seconds later the hi res texture gets loaded.  Look away, look back and it's low res again.

Distance seems to make no difference either, I can look at a tree in the middle distance and it'll be hi res, but the tree next to me will be low res and looking like it's a water colour painting.

Every time I make a change to the graphics setup the blur effect gets stuck on. 

People on the official forums are all stupid.

No info available anywhere else.


And to go back to v1.01 I've gotta reinstall the game.
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Swoop on June 21, 2009, 08:50:44 PM
And on the good side......


Some of these missions are brilliant, really free form, much more so than the previous two games.....which were lauded for being extremely free form and able to be played so many ways, enhancing the re-playability.  The campaign of Arma 2 is gonna get played again and again, whereas the previous 2 games were all about the mission editor for me.

Sound is so much better than in Arma 1 it's just a revelation.

Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Kazaa on June 21, 2009, 09:35:24 PM
Arma 1 wasn't worth the money.
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Vulcan on June 21, 2009, 11:03:15 PM
Cheers swoop - I'll still buy it then. They've always been a bit funny for the first few versions on their games.  I thought OFP was pretty freeform.

One of my best experiences was in the OFP mission where you were on your own and had to make to one side of the island for extraction. I was coming to the edge of a forest to a large open field, and there was a dense morning fog. I lay down by some cover to check my map and heard something coming towards me. Out of the fog silhouettes of an enemy patrol emerged, then slowly melted into the fog again.... it was fluff'n awesome :)
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: cpxxx on June 22, 2009, 06:20:33 AM
Yes Vulcan, that moment in OFP caught my imagination too. I was actually almost scared. I actually felt like I was there in that wood on my own. Another moment in OFP was during an early mission when I was part of an assault on a building with some enemy around. We ran, there was some shooting somewhere. We arrived and it was all over the enemy were dead. I never fired a shot or even saw an enemy. That struck me as being quite realistic. Like being a rookie soldier in his first combat. That kind of thing  hooked me on the game. I have ARMA too. They have their flaws though. It's hard to find decent cover and the enemy always seems to get a shot on you once they see you. Also tanks and vehicles don't seem to have any trouble spotting you. Whereas in real life a buttoned up armoured vehicle has lots of blind spots.

But I'll also buy ARMA 2 hoping for improvement.

What I always like about both games is the sense of being somewhere almost real. The bees or flies buzzing around and the weather changing. I remember in OFB having to leave a game running. When I came back I was surprised to see that it had got dark and was raining. One thing I would like to see is being able to interact more with the other characters both friendly and enemy. They always seemed a bit autistic to me.
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: moot on June 22, 2009, 06:35:47 AM
How are the ballistics and penetration physics?
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Swoop on June 22, 2009, 10:55:36 AM
Dunno, I haven't fought in any armoured vehicles yet.....or even fired an AT weapon at anything.  The single player campaign is very infantry intensive.  Small unit operations.

As for the ambient life......now there's dogs, sheep, cattle, rabbits.....and reports on forums of a very hard to find yeti.


Oh and gameplay improvement over Arma:  You can now drag and / or pick up and carry a wounded soldier.
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: moot on June 22, 2009, 01:48:33 PM
Yeah I meant the infantry weapons' ballistics. :)  Does it model materials penetration, ricochets, etc?
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: mechanic on June 22, 2009, 02:32:34 PM
Did you not play ArmA1 moot? As far asI know, they model balistics quite accurately. Even if not perfectly, thats what the mods are for.
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: CraneMan on June 22, 2009, 02:40:54 PM
You guys ever play Battlefield 2??
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Swoop on June 22, 2009, 03:32:28 PM
Craneman, please do not post about poncey, low realism arcade games in this thread again.


;)  :aok

Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Soulyss on June 22, 2009, 03:33:55 PM
Arma 1 wasn't worth the money.

I bought Armed Assault 1 being a big fan of Operation Flashpoint, I had a couple issues with the retail/vanilla version of the game.  I started playing with some of the mods/tweaks I found on this thread

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=71981 (http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=71981)

and it totally transformed the game and to me made it a lot more enjoyable, I didn't try all of the mods, but picked a handful that I thought would be nice and in almost every case it made what I would consider an improvement, especially the ACE mod.

Can't wait for Armed Assault 2, was planning on buying through Steam.



Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Soulyss on June 22, 2009, 03:35:27 PM
I bought Armed Assault 1 being a big fan of Operation Flashpoint, I had a couple issues with the retail/vanilla version of the game.  I started playing with some of the mods/tweaks I found on this thread

http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=71981 (http://forums.bistudio.com/showthread.php?t=71981)

and it totally transformed the game and to me made it a lot more enjoyable, I didn't try all of the mods, but picked a handful that I thought would be nice and in almost every case it made what I would consider an improvement, especially the ACE mod.

Can't wait for Armed Assault 2, was planning on buying through Steam.

Quite happy to hear that the campaign is pretty infantry/small unit based, I didn't care for leading a large group of people in either OFP or ARMA.






Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: thedudee95 on June 22, 2009, 06:04:59 PM
Arma 1 wasn't worth the money.
QFT.
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Wingnutt on June 22, 2009, 08:34:25 PM
I bought arma 1 onoline via "sprocket"  and every time they released an update, it wouldinvalidate the game, and I would have to e-mail sprocket for another license, then after I did this about 5 times, they quit responding to me, never sent me a new key, I e-mailed them several times over the course of about a week..  I posted on the BIS forums about the problem and was called a pirate and my thread got locked.

$50 I paid, and cant even play the game.

 :furious

Never again will I Buy/download a game (like that).  piss poor.
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Swoop on June 23, 2009, 06:37:12 AM
I agree, Sprocket sucks.  Steam is mildly better but way too expensive.

Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: thrila on June 23, 2009, 07:39:58 AM
I was going to buy arma 2 but i found empire total war on steam for £15.  Steam is usually expensive, i don't think i've ever purchased a new game that wasn't made by valve.  I used to love operation flashpoint, i imagine i will buy this as some stage.

Talking of expensive downloads, I am considering buying the game 'blood bowl' this week (I was a massive gamesworkshop geek as a kid) but is available through digital download via the official website only.  I don't have a problem with that per se but it's £40! Most new releases in the UK can be pre-ordered for £25.




Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: CraneMan on June 23, 2009, 10:45:57 AM
Craneman, please do not post about poncey, low realism arcade games in this thread again.

Have you heard of Project Reality?
BF2 & Aces High are the only games I play until something better comes along.




Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Swoop on June 23, 2009, 11:07:49 AM
Have you heard of Project Reality?

Yes I have and it still isn't.

Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: allaire on June 23, 2009, 01:15:08 PM
Thrila all I have to say is think about the two words in your post "Games Workshop."  Anything to do with said company has gotten hideously expensive in the last 3+years.
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: mechanic on June 23, 2009, 01:23:21 PM
 The modded version of ArmA 1 i have running is brilliant. The AI search and clear open buildings. SpecOps will sneak up on tanks and lay satchels indepenantly of any mission editing. Just put random troops anywhere on the map with gaurd or the modded 'dismissed' waypoints and you have a dynamic warzone.
 
 The other mods i found include better evironment visuals, forecasted weather, accurate balistic, accurate AI spotting/pathfinding/recognition distances, accurate penetration at range, windage and elevation MOA setting, range cards, more realistic flight modeling, realistic tracer mod, realistic bleeding and wounding, the possibilty to make enemy platoons surrender and lie face down if they are being thrashed. ..the list just goes on. Then there are the hundreds of user created weapons/units/objects/maps which make hours of mission editing fun.

How could anyone not like this game? Its basic in so many areas, that's the beauty for me, rather than these super fast action shooters on the consoles. I will upload a recent MD500 support mission i made to you tube if anyone wants to see how damn good ArmA 1 looks when you set it up right.

Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Makarov9 on June 23, 2009, 03:55:27 PM
Big fan of the OFP, ARMA games. Looking forward to this one and some great online action with the Tactical Gamers squad. Just ordered a Q9550 Quad Core CPU to help run this game with higher graphics. Should be out on Steam by Friday.
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Swoop on June 23, 2009, 06:24:54 PM
I'm finding it pretty stable and quick on my system and it's a couple of years old.

AMD dual core 4200
2Gb RAM
ATI 1950 256mb

I've turned off post process effects cos I just don't like em (bright haze from the sky no matter where the sun is and a blurr effect when you turn your head) but everything else is on and appart from the low detail textures issue introduced with the latest patch it looks (er, looked) good.  No slowdowns under load, unlike Arma 1.

Oh btw, did I mention the campaign is multiplayer?
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Soulyss on June 23, 2009, 07:03:32 PM
Thanks for posted those spec's I was a little worried about the system requirements, running a dual core 2.18 intel here with the same RAM and vid card. 

Wish there was a handy way some of us here in the AH community could get together and play through the campaign as a coop MP game.
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Makarov9 on June 24, 2009, 09:46:24 AM
Swoop, thanks for the specs and info. I heard some bad things about the sun effect. I'm sure it'll get sorted out in future patches. Initially Bohemia's games have bugs, but they always work hard on fixing things.

Looking forward to the Bigfoot hunts!
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Swoop on June 24, 2009, 10:42:13 AM
With Arma 1 we got multiplayer "warfare" mode.  A kind of FPS / RTS mix.

With Arma 2 the warfare model makes it into some campaign missions

(http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/3333/image2q.jpg)

(http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/7149/image4ecf.jpg)



There's also a new "armoury".  Select something in the armoury like an M16A2 and a random "challenge" will be offered.  So far I've seen the following:

Assassinate enemy officer.
Survive for x minutes while being hunted.
Defend an area.
Go deer hunting.
Skeet shooting.
Drive the off road mobility course (interesting in a cheap eastern european car).
Race another vehicle.
Transport troops on time.

(http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/5192/image5b.jpg)

(http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/8233/image6y.jpg)

(http://img83.imageshack.us/img83/3582/image7f.jpg)
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Makarov9 on June 24, 2009, 10:46:15 AM
HA! Skeet shooting with an AK-74! I need to try that at our local range next time. I'm sure I wouldn't get too many strange looks or call to the cops. :)
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Swoop on June 24, 2009, 11:21:31 AM
general prettyness....

(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/5192/image8hxj.jpg)

(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/5927/image9u.jpg)

(http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/4963/image11y.jpg)
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Makarov9 on June 24, 2009, 11:31:36 AM
Just watched this video and I'm floored by how great the game looks and the animations. Most of the video is in slow-motion, so you really see the details they put into the game. The guys at the end running on the street really shows how far animation has come.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePrwLMi1fyQ&eurl (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ePrwLMi1fyQ&eurl)

Watch it in HD.
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: mechanic on June 24, 2009, 12:05:07 PM
It will really annoy me ifthey have not employed ragdoll physics yet. Please tell me they have.  :pray
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Yossarian on June 24, 2009, 12:31:07 PM
Oh dear...I just got myself addicted to Battlefield 2 a few days ago lol :P

I must have been living in a hole, I only heard of Arma sometime last week  :O


In defense of BF2, I can't say much for its realism, however in terms of super high-intensity and fun battles, it's the best game I've ever played...that said, I may go and look for a demo of Arma now =D
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Heater on June 24, 2009, 03:28:48 PM
Bought the retail version, not via steam, came as v1.01.  Everything looked pretty good, good framerates, etc.  AI little....um....sharp but gameplay otherwise ok.

patch 1.02, released yesterday, has calmed down the supershot abilities of the AI and fixed some campaign bugs, however, now my graphics are messed up.  High LOD textures for an object get loaded on a random rotating wossname, I can be stood next to something looking at it and 30 seconds later the hi res texture gets loaded.  Look away, look back and it's low res again.

Distance seems to make no difference either, I can look at a tree in the middle distance and it'll be hi res, but the tree next to me will be low res and looking like it's a water colour painting.

Every time I make a change to the graphics setup the blur effect gets stuck on. 

People on the official forums are all stupid.

No info available anywhere else.


And to go back to v1.01 I've gotta reinstall the game.


Swoop PM me and I can help you get the details sorted... Been playing around with it for a while now :)
Cheers
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Makarov9 on June 25, 2009, 02:05:10 PM
Armed Assault II demo is out in-case anyone is on the fence for this game. Can download it through Steam:

http://store.steampowered.com/app/33920/ (http://store.steampowered.com/app/33920/)

Also on Fileplanet and elsewhere.

Full game is out for Yanks on Steam this Friday.
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Soulyss on June 25, 2009, 05:42:54 PM
Great... as if the afternoon was crawling by already... now I have two demo's to try out at 5:00.
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Fishu on June 25, 2009, 07:12:01 PM
Gah.. my copy of the game arrives either today or the next week. Hopefully not the next week, it'd be a weekend wasted  :furious
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: mechanic on June 26, 2009, 03:10:57 AM
any news on the ragdolls?
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Vulcan on June 26, 2009, 05:15:54 AM
Oh dear...I just got myself addicted to Battlefield 2 a few days ago lol :P

I must have been living in a hole, I only heard of Arma sometime last week  :O


In defense of BF2, I can't say much for its realism, however in terms of super high-intensity and fun battles, it's the best game I've ever played...that said, I may go and look for a demo of Arma now =D

People cheating on multiplayer BF2 gets boring fast (even on the PB enabled servers).
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Fishu on June 26, 2009, 07:27:52 AM
It will be a long weekend.
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: james on June 26, 2009, 10:00:01 PM
Wont be getting it, just like half-life you have to have steam to play it. Steam is useless and has done nothing but become the red tape of pc gaming. Voting them off the island with the wallet.
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Swoop on June 26, 2009, 11:07:48 PM
Wont be getting it, just like half-life you have to have steam to play it.

No you don't.
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: james on June 27, 2009, 11:23:38 AM
Any time I've had a game even associated with steam
things go bad. I reformat my pc, forget steam password,
get a new email address. I become unable to use the game
I paid for eventually. call them or seek support and left with
the feeling of wanting to buy a shotgun, take some time off work,
maybe buy garbage bags?
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: mechanic on June 27, 2009, 11:30:22 AM
With empire total war you can set steam to run in offline mode and never need a connection again. I think thats how it works anyhow. Oh, write your password down too :)
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Swoop on June 27, 2009, 12:22:51 PM
With ArmA2 you don't need steam installed even.  If you buy the retail version (ie not direct download) then the manual has the CD-key on the back.

Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: RTSigma on June 27, 2009, 06:58:53 PM
For those that were turned on by OFP and then turned off by ArmA1, ArmA1 was developed by BI to be the "in between" of OFP and ArmA2. They wanted to do an ArmA2 after OFP but the experience and hardware wasn't available yet. This is why a lot of people don't really enjoy ArmA1 unless its modded to all heck, but are enjoying ArmA2 because of how much its like OFP.

Also, heres some gratiutious action:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KK6Fo3Y0AU


P.S. - There are random mission generators.
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: -tronski- on June 27, 2009, 10:03:44 PM
Any time I've had a game even associated with steam
things go bad. I reformat my pc, forget steam password,
get a new email address. I become unable to use the game
I paid for eventually. call them or seek support and left with
the feeling of wanting to buy a shotgun, take some time off work,
maybe buy garbage bags?

I've only ever had the one problem with Steam and that was during the release of Total War Empire where all their servers were cactus for a couple of days...I wrote them an email and stated my case politely that I thought it was a ridiculous situation, and I'd like a refund so i can go buy the boxed version...which they gave.
Changed computers, e-mail adresses and never had an issue downloading something I've already purchased, and as already stated you can play Total War with steam not connected to the intardnet



I've run the demo (37 fps using the benchmark) but I wasn't overwhelmed immediately...I've still got the various OFP discs & Arma1 and its still seems same same...might have to have a better go at it

 Tronsky
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Tr1gg22 on June 30, 2009, 05:10:03 PM
graphics on the demo are all blurred to me.... I have an hd card and monitor..... I tried all the configurations and nothing better...could it just be because its the demo?  If it looks like the utube videos it would be sweet but looks like crap to me in game :eek:
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: mensa180 on June 30, 2009, 05:15:19 PM
Demo works fine for me, Tr1gg22.
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Swoop on June 30, 2009, 06:24:32 PM
Tr1gg, when in game looking at a blurry screen, press ESC and then click continue.  Does that cure it?

There's a bug with 1.03 of the retail version that does the same, I haven't got the demo though.
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Tr1gg22 on July 01, 2009, 10:52:15 AM
Tr1gg, when in game looking at a blurry screen, press ESC and then click continue.  Does that cure it?

There's a bug with 1.03 of the retail version that does the same, I haven't got the demo though.
ill try that ty
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: mechanic on July 02, 2009, 01:39:44 PM
I bought it yesterday.

It's pretty damn good. Thanks to your post swoop I am going to hold off on d/l the patches till they work it all out. The retail version plays fine. It's a vast imporvement on ArmA1 and runs perfectly on my PC which a pleasant surprise considering my gfx card says it is below the min reqs.
Title: Re: Arma 2
Post by: Bodhi on July 02, 2009, 01:49:56 PM
Thanks for all the pics Swoop.  Going to order it today.