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Title: More Tanks :)
Post by: The Grinch on June 27, 2009, 07:55:05 AM
What about some new GVs?

Tank Iosef Stalin IS2 Model 45 
Type heavy battle tank 
Engine V-2 JS, 12-cylinder water-cooled diesel engine with 520 hp 
Crew 4
Length 990 cm 
Width 309 cm 
Height 273 cm 
Battle weight  46 t 
Max road speed  23 mph 
Max road range  150 miles 
Max terrain range  131 miles 
Fuel  820 litres 
Vertical obstacle 100 cm 
Trench crossing  286 cm 
Climbing power  36°
Armour, turret front  160 mm 
Armour, turret side  110 mm 
Armour, turret rear  100 mm 
Armour, turret roof  30 mm 
Armour, hull glacis  120 mm 
Armour, hull side  95 mm 
Armour, hull rear  60 mm 
Armour, hull top  30mm
Armour, hull bottom  30 mm 
Main armament 122 mm D-25T gun with 28 rounds 
Muzzle velocity 1690 fps (HEAT),
2625 fps (HE) 
Shell weight  24.9 kg Armour piercing (HE), 13.2 kg HEAT, 22.6 kg HE, 24.9 kg HE-fragmentation
Penetration 500 yds  200mm/0° (HEAT), 145mm/0° (HE) 
Penetration 1000 yds  200mm/0° (HEAT), 145mm/0° (HE) 
Penetration 1500 yds  200mm/0° (HEAT), 145mm/0° (HE) 
Penetration 2000 yds  200mm/0° (HEAT), 145mm/0° (HE) 
Secondary armament  2 x DT, 1 x DShK -MG
Production from November 1943. :salute


 

Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: The Grinch on June 27, 2009, 08:08:25 AM
http://images.google.no/imgres?imgurl=http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/fb/IS-2_Cubinka_1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:IS-2_Cubinka_1.jpg&usg=__hL7SxSXSDuB-HOKzOMDznzJDiR4=&h=1944&w=2592&sz=340&hl=no&start=1&um=1&tbnid=DblBREiHLa8o1M:&tbnh=113&tbnw=150&prev=/images%3Fq%3DTank%2BIosef%2BStalin%2BIS2%2BModel%2B45%26hl%3Dno%26rlz%3D1T4RNWN_enNO297NO298%26sa%3DN%26um%3D1
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: jolly22 on June 27, 2009, 10:28:52 AM
I'm guessing the panther would come first
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: chris3 on June 28, 2009, 06:51:36 AM
moin

jes we need more tanks.

js2, js3, Panther, jagdpanther, jagdtiger, sturmtiger (would be real fun),königstiger, elefant..........end the e-100 vor 500 perks :D

but im still dreaming...

cu chris3
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: Latrobe on June 28, 2009, 08:18:52 AM
I think the next Tank coming is going to be the Panzer III  :)
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: Rich46yo on June 28, 2009, 11:22:30 AM
I'd love to see either the IS2 or the Panther.
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: usvi on June 28, 2009, 11:48:01 AM
How about a Japanese tank?
Don't know much about them.
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: chris3 on June 28, 2009, 02:47:06 PM
How about a Japanese tank?
Don't know much about them.

...because thay didnt have importent ones lol.

PIII :rofl havy armored and slow m8 hehe

cu chris3
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: macerxgp on June 28, 2009, 04:58:09 PM
NO NO NO NO NO

NO IS2

NO MORE SUPERTANKS


We should get the Hellcat before any other tanks. We dont have ANY American tanks for cryin' out loud..

and NO, the Sherman Firefly is NOT American, it is BRITISH.
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: Larry on June 28, 2009, 05:23:44 PM
NO NO NO NO NO

NO IS2

NO MORE SUPERTANKS


We should get the Hellcat before any other tanks. We dont have ANY American tanks for cryin' out loud..

and NO, the Sherman Firefly is NOT American, it is BRITISH.

ZOMG THE CAPS!!!!

The hellcat wasn't an American tank eather. It was a tank destroyer.
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: sirvlad on June 28, 2009, 05:49:56 PM
A self propelled gun be nice to,something like a Wespe be cool  imo :salute
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: vonKrimm on June 29, 2009, 01:50:17 AM
Shoot, if we combine macer's (m4) & vlad's (wespe) request into 1 wish we could have the 105mm armed Sherman.  now that was easy (so where is the button?)
 :noid
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: frank3 on June 29, 2009, 05:33:55 AM
What about some new GVs?

Tank Iosef Stalin IS2 Model 45 
Max road speed  23 mph 

It sure is a slow cookie, only does 23mph max on the road.
That relates to, what, less than 20mph on the terrain?
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: Rino on June 29, 2009, 07:54:43 AM
Frank, you think the tank moves slowly, just wait till you see
the rate of fire on it's main gun  :aok
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: Sakai on June 29, 2009, 08:35:07 AM
I think the next Tank coming is going to be the Panzer III  :)

Great tank to model.  Low profile, long barrelled 50mm decent anti tank weapon for its time or 75mm howitzer for town busting.  Not uber, but a decent ride.  Great tank for gaining perks, I'd wager.

Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: waystin2 on June 29, 2009, 08:43:59 AM
...because thay didnt have importent ones lol.


Are we talking important in the sense they were not all powerful late war models, or that they have no important place in this game? :huh
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: ACE on June 29, 2009, 09:25:03 AM
How about a Japanese tank?
Don't know much about them.
i think they had a type 93 that sucked! lol
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: Sakai on June 29, 2009, 10:24:44 AM
Are we talking important in the sense they were not all powerful late war models, or that they have no important place in this game? :huh

They didn't make many, their tanks never really had an impact on the outcome.

If you model a decent early war light tank or Italian tank you'd have a good proxy for Japanese armor.  Unless the modeling could be done quickly and cheaply, I'd not waste any resources on armor for the Itais or the Japanese.  I think the Chi-Ha type 97 was their best tank that they made in any quantity and they made how many of those?  1,000? 2k, 3k?  Their later tank designs never made it since they had no steel to make them.  You could model either the Chi-Ha or one of the Fiat tanks and basically have a good enough proxy for all Japanese and Italian armor.  I don't know if they built 10,000 tanks that were used in warfare between them both.  As with aircraft, both nations did not have the resources to field the very finest designs quickly enough or in enough numbers to make a difference (that and a critical shortage of properly trained pilots on Japan's part). 
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: waystin2 on June 29, 2009, 10:32:21 AM
They didn't make many, their tanks never really had an impact on the outcome.

I am thinking more along the lines does it meet AH qualifications for inclusion, not whether it had an effect on the outcome of the war or was it more powerful than such and such a tank.  I agree they were weak in comparison to other countries armor and made in much smaller production numbers.  Do they deserve inclusion into AH?  My answer is yes.
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: BigPlay on June 29, 2009, 10:37:44 AM
ZOMG THE CAPS!!!!

The hellcat wasn't an American tank eather. It was a tank destroyer.


 That it was but in actuality it unlike the German and Russian tank destroyers had a turret and was under armored . Bringing in more EW era tanks doesn't make sense to me since their use across the arenas will be minimal.
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: R 105 on June 29, 2009, 11:05:22 AM
As for early war any new tank like say the Panzer III would be welcome all we have is the T-34 there. As for general arena use how about the Hummel-Geschutwagen III self propelled artillery. As for tank busters maybe the Stag III 40 more  infantry support than tank killer or the Jagdpanzer IV a true tank buster. I myself would be most happy with a Panther. Trying to GV in any arena is a pain just because of the long spawn drives just to get a shot at another tank. So if we are going to have a miserable drive just to GV we may as well drive something sporty
to make the trip in.

R-105
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: usvi on June 29, 2009, 11:34:27 AM
Shoot, if we combine macer's (m4) & vlad's (wespe) request into 1 wish we could have the 105mm armed Sherman.  now that was easy (so where is the button?)
 :noid
I like this one...town would go down quickly,but the ammo load out could be a problem.
Also the lack of a powered turret traverse would mean painfully slow turrets.
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: Sakai on June 29, 2009, 12:52:57 PM
I am thinking more along the lines does it meet AH qualifications for inclusion, not whether it had an effect on the outcome of the war or was it more powerful than such and such a tank.  I agree they were weak in comparison to other countries armor and made in much smaller production numbers.  Do they deserve inclusion into AH?  My answer is yes.

Agreed.

Don't get me wrong, I'd love to see a suite of armor in this game.  I'd especially like a setup where modest armor could compete against each other and early war AC.  I'd personally not due it soon though since plane sets need so much fleshing out.  How many planes should be modeled for each new GV?  I'd say 5 to 1, AC to GV, maybe. 
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: GreenEagle43 on June 30, 2009, 11:29:38 PM
NO NON NO.NO MORE GERMAN TANKS.WE NEED A NOTHER AMERICAN TANK.WE BEEN THROUGH THIS.READ POST FROM LAST MONTH. :mad:
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: jolly22 on July 01, 2009, 03:50:12 PM
I'd have to say no to that. Yes i like the fact that it has 122mm cannon, but only 28 rounds. It be a tough debate to decide if that tank would be perked. So to save the time. I'd have to say no
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: jay on July 02, 2009, 09:22:21 AM
no more german tanks anyone ever heard of this horrible thing??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Landkreuzer_P._1000_Ratte
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: Cajunn on July 02, 2009, 12:00:29 PM
I'm guessing the panther would come first
I'm wishing that the Panther would come now! :x
Title: Re: More Tanks :)
Post by: HighTone on July 05, 2009, 12:44:05 AM
Just the regular M4 would work for me