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Title: Stuttering !!
Post by: Amsoil21 on July 28, 2009, 06:26:59 PM
OK ppl anyone else seem to have good frame rates but still have a stuttering effect. i have a top end system and can run the game full chatt but no matter what settings i turn on/off i get the stuttering.

 frame rate is capped default at 75 and rarely drops below 70

 :uhoh :uhoh :uhoh :uhoh
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: rstel01 on July 28, 2009, 06:32:12 PM
same issue, can't even play.

Just nano-stutters everywhere, worse when close to anyone or quick head movements.

Same issue in Beta, seems to be never fixed. Have everything turned so far down and off, it looks like TRON.

FR in the mid 50's, even went to 512 Textures

Please fix this HTC or put it back the way it was, it's just unplayable.   
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Hamltnblue on July 28, 2009, 06:33:55 PM
I wonder if it has anything to do with the amount of people getting home and downloading the update?
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: thrila on July 28, 2009, 06:36:48 PM
I'm curious if a defrag of your hard-drive might do the trick.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: PFactorDave on July 28, 2009, 06:38:01 PM
I wonder if it has anything to do with the amount of people getting home and downloading the update?

That hadn't occurred to me, but it's interesting.  You may be on to something, especially considering the randomness of the stuttering.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Lusche on July 28, 2009, 06:45:37 PM
I'm curious if a defrag of your hard-drive might do the trick.

In previous versions it always did, in this it doesn't anymore.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Sol75 on July 28, 2009, 06:50:38 PM
Curious, are you guys who are getting the stuttering, running single core Hyperthreading Intel CPU's?

Sol
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Lusche on July 28, 2009, 06:51:50 PM
Curious, are you guys who are getting the stuttering, running single core Hyperthreading Intel CPU's?

Sol

No.
AMD X2 3200, 2GB, Win XP SP3, GF 9600GT, TrackIr.

Stutters when looking around, particulary when just moved into a location (tower, gun, cockpit), stutter when bringing up clipboard, rolling the plane, zooming in, getting close first time to a specific plane during each sortie, when fighting on the deck etc.

Also I have issues with varying framerates, much worse than in Beta. Even with low settings (MUCH lower than old version) they drop a lot down to 30 during a fight in a furball. Often combined with another few stutters.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Amsoil21 on July 28, 2009, 06:55:24 PM
vista 32 bit home amd duel core 6400 with evga gtx 260 superclocked card 4 gig of ram

defrag once a week.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Plazus on July 28, 2009, 06:59:26 PM
Here is what I have:

AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ (2.7 GHz)
NVidia GeForce 9600 GSO 768MB video memory
4 GB of RAM
Direct X 10.0
Maxed graphics in new version of AH2, including Hires Texture package
Windows Vista Home Premium 32-bit OS

I average 45-69 fps now. I the same issue with the micro-stutters. This occurs very often in the tank town portion of the map. But regardles off location or altitude, or people, I am getting seemingly random micro-stutters. From time to time, my frames jump down to the teens and renders my game unplayable for brief moments. It gets to be a problem when furballing.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Viperius on July 28, 2009, 07:05:35 PM
Vista 64 bit ultimate on intel quadcore i7 920 with Radeon HD 4870 and 6 Gig ram

Stutters get worse around shorelines here
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: TonyJoey on July 28, 2009, 07:11:30 PM
Like a Bible salesman. :aok
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: 1Boner on July 28, 2009, 07:12:43 PM
Would the download of "Patch 1 " solve the problem??
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Sincraft on July 28, 2009, 07:13:54 PM
Windows 7 64 bit running with 4 gigs of fast ram fast cpu's x2 and a high end grafx card.

Recent upgrade.  

Everything looks ok now but I got stutters when close to killing someone in beta, which is the very reason why I left ww2online.  Uber system, uber issues with the game and excuses from the peanut gallery.

Anyone from there remembers the "buy more ram" (tm) from the rats I'm sure. :)

Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: TonyJoey on July 28, 2009, 07:14:12 PM
Would the download of "Patch 1 " solve the problem??

Tried, just as bad.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Pyro on July 28, 2009, 07:14:23 PM
Are any you with stuttering problems minimizing the game at all while playing?
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: kamori on July 28, 2009, 07:17:18 PM
Not I. I am trying to load the full version and do a clean install at no avail. Trying alt route although 1st atempt loaded 13.6 meg.
Kam
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Lusche on July 28, 2009, 07:18:47 PM
Are any you with stuttering problems minimizing the game at all while playing?

I tried both.

The stutter I described appears even when never having minimized the program during current session at all, it get's gradually better, but doesn't disappear completely, just less annoying. It seems that some things have to "appear/happen" for the first time, then no more stutter. For example when having used the clipboard several times, it doesn't stutter as much when I open it gain.

Having the game minimized and coming back makes things only worse. (Along with that annyoing 30sec waiting time for the world to build up ;) )

Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: 1Boner on July 28, 2009, 07:19:00 PM
Windows 7 64 bit running with 4 gigs of fast ram fast cpu's x2 and a high end grafx card.

Recent upgrade.  

Everything looks ok now but I got stutters when close to killing someone in beta, which is the very reason why I left ww2online.  Uber system, uber issues with the game and excuses from the peanut gallery.

Anyone from there remembers the "buy more ram" (tm) from the rats I'm sure. :)




The games only been released for a few hours.

These are some stand up guys, I'll wager 3 sheep and 4 goats that these problems will be fixed pronto!  :aok
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: grizz441 on July 28, 2009, 07:24:24 PM
I'm also getting some stuttering issues.  I have a low end system, but i have all my settings dumbed down and am running around 50 fps.  I was minimizing the game though.  I will try a system reboot and fly without minimizing and report any improvements.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: killert5 on July 28, 2009, 07:34:36 PM
WTF HighTech!  Some update.  Welcome to economics 101.  When your customers can not use your product, you lose income!!!  Including mine......
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: PFactorDave on July 28, 2009, 07:36:34 PM
WTF HighTech!  Some update.  Welcome to economics 101.  When your customers can not use your product, you lose income!!!  Including mine......

Wow...  But what happens if you are replaced by 5 new players who wouldn't have subscribed unless the graphics were brought more in line with the industry?

Really now...
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: SPKmes on July 28, 2009, 07:37:51 PM
WTF HighTech!  Some update.  Welcome to economics 101.  When your customers can not use your product, you lose income!!!  Including mine......



HaHaHaHaHaHaHa............... ............................y ou made a new BBS name for that... wow you are stauch.
Come on guys don't be so impatient and let the ironing be done
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Plazus on July 28, 2009, 07:38:07 PM
Wow...  But what happens if you are replaced by 5 new players who wouldn't have subscribed unless the graphics were brought more in line with the industry?

Really now...

 :rofl :rofl :rofl :rofl
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Reaper90 on July 28, 2009, 07:59:44 PM
WTF HighTech!  Some update.  Welcome to economics 101.  When your customers can not use your product, you lose income!!!  Including mine......

Well, as they say... "don't let the door hit you in the......"

you get the picture.

HT, 10X :aok and a case of beer.

Update is awesome, looks great, and runs better on my crappy machine than the previous version did. As I finally scrape together loose change and upgrade my machine I'm sure it will only get better.

Superb job, guys.

btw, bruv119 is dangerous in a Brewster.  :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: PFactorDave on July 28, 2009, 08:00:46 PM
btw, bruv119 is dangerous in a Brewster.  :rolleyes:

 :rofl  Well...  Duh...
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: 999000 on July 28, 2009, 08:01:45 PM
same here..
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Enker on July 28, 2009, 08:14:23 PM
btw, bruv119 is dangerous in a Brewster.  :rolleyes:
As is the horde in free 262s.

WTF HighTech!  Some update.  Welcome to economics 101.  When your customers can not use your product, you lose income!!!  Including mine......
Well, how else are they going to iron out the kinks, running it on their own narrow band of resources and examples? They need to have many people with many kinds of setups running and testing it. If you cannot understand this, then good riddance.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: grizz441 on July 28, 2009, 08:15:02 PM
Stutters still present after comp restart and no minimizing.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: whels on July 28, 2009, 08:34:35 PM
Pyro,

I get stutter with graphics all on or off, 256,512,1024 res . i did notice it got alot worse when i got
into a GV and was zoomed in on the new trees. Its a stutter constantly about every 2 seconds.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Madkow on July 28, 2009, 08:47:54 PM
I have the same stuttering problems and I shouldn't... I even defraged..  The game is unplayable :cry :cry :cry
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Steve on July 28, 2009, 09:12:01 PM
Cant pre load skins in cahce anymore? I really liked that.... I used to get some game stutters that way
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Lusche on July 28, 2009, 09:13:21 PM
Cant pre load skins in cahce anymore? I really liked that.... I used to get some game stutters that way

I have skins disabled, as I always had. That's not what's causing the stutter for me.
But you can't select  "preload textures" anymore too...

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,268915.0.html
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: kilo2 on July 28, 2009, 09:18:59 PM
Getting stutters as well

Amd turion x2 dual core mobile 2.01 Ghz

4.00 gigs if ram

my frame rate is really unstable from 41-24 running full
stable at 60 when all the detail is turned down
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Chalenge on July 28, 2009, 09:21:53 PM
Set all video card settings to Application Controlled and set antialiasing through AH video settings at startup to OFF. Make adjustments in the game one at a time to improve the look.

I suggest you start with the game controlled antialiasing but leave the video card set to Application Controlled.

Everything will improve if you follow this suggestion.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Lusche on July 28, 2009, 09:30:04 PM
Been there, done that.
Only thing that improves is getting not up to 50% reductions in FR in certain situations - but at a price of removing all "advanced" settings. Not exactly what I had expected  when I upgraded to a 9600GT. But even then stutter is the same issue, and of course the %&$ ( ;)) reloading times. When I run AH at visual settings roughly comparable to old version, FR is gettin jumpy especially around fights near airfields/and or coastlines.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Matrix on July 28, 2009, 10:03:31 PM
for me i have super frame rate and everything maxed out but getting annoying stutters.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Chalenge on July 28, 2009, 10:46:43 PM
If making this change doesnt do anything it could be that you have a profile that needs to be deleted and then a new one created. The stuttering went away completely when I made this change but I have run into profiles in the past that had issues once a program was updated and the only way to fix it was to delete the profile and start over.

Its probably a good idea that anytime you update a program that has a profile in nvidia control panel that it be deleted and a new one created. Just a thought but this method has helped a lot of people in the arena today.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Ratpack1 on July 28, 2009, 10:58:43 PM
Only time i get the low FR is when firing from the 8" guns on the boat. It only drops to like 35 however so not all bad. Otherwise all is well and its looks fantastic!

Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: 999000 on July 28, 2009, 11:36:48 PM
I defraged , install new Nvidia drivers ....Running Intel duo 2 CPU E8400 3.00 mgh  Geforce 9600gt  3gig ram
/still have stuttering problem
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: texastc316 on July 28, 2009, 11:40:24 PM
teh stutter is so rampant with almost everyone, whats the chances its a game issue?
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: 96Delta on July 28, 2009, 11:45:58 PM
Stutter top death whenever I get close to the ground
and all the ground objects start to get rendered.

Its so bad its impossible to play.  I just logged off.
Disgusted.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Wmaker on July 29, 2009, 08:16:44 AM
I'm curious if a defrag of your hard-drive might do the trick.

So when the previous version ran smoothly and the new one stutters with good frame rates...you are offering this as a solution?
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: lazydog on July 29, 2009, 08:32:13 AM
just wondering when i was testing in beta i was trying different settings and found when i turned off the vertical sync in video settings i got tearing and studder.my understanding if this is off your FR will go over your monitor refresh rate and cause this
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Wmaker on July 29, 2009, 08:51:38 AM
Are any you with stuttering problems minimizing the game at all while playing?

No minimizing here. I did notice the same thing as Lusche, that over time it gets better. The longer you keep the game running the better it gets up to a certain point I think. But the stutters still remain quite frequent and like I've said, seem to be occurring mostly while me or others around me are shooting.

EDIT/Forgot to mention that I disabled the use of skins right away when I noticed the stutters./EDIT
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: lulu on July 29, 2009, 08:59:08 AM
Salute all,

micro stuttering for me too. both in beta version and in current version. low graphic videocard ati x1650. but until last two beta patches and patch 1 for current version no micro stuttering occured so much as actually, and i was able to select shadows options - also to try it. now i cannot do this. my impression is that preloading terrain in memory does't work properly - i cannot see no bar in progress during the preloading phase. frame rate varies from 25 to 55 fps more near low values about 27 - 41 fps. about my pc, packard-bell, xp32bit, 2GB RAM, 2,1 GHz processor, directX 9.0c, 512 MB ati x1650 vidocard 350 MHz processor. before new version my frame rate was 60 fps quite ALWAYS.

Salute.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Waffle on July 29, 2009, 09:16:52 AM
Pyro,

I get stutter with graphics all on or off, 256,512,1024 res . i did notice it got alot worse when i got
into a GV and was zoomed in on the new trees. Its a stutter constantly about every 2 seconds.

Whels - in your video settings do you have 'Adaptive Anti Aliasing' on if it's an ATI card, or 'Transparency AntiAliasing' on if the card is nvidia? If so, turn it off and try it.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Hazzer on July 29, 2009, 09:33:24 AM
 My frame rate is ok but I get stutters in cockpit looking ahead,lowering graphic quality makes no difference,nor does lowering texture.
 
 If anything my framerate has improved.If this can't be fixed,I'll have to wait till I can afford a new system.

 I have a low end system so I'm not  to suprised:it ran they old aces High ok maxed out Hi res,this is just a step to far for my rig. :(

 Looks great though,I'll hang on a few weeks,see if theirs a fix.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Pyro on July 29, 2009, 09:46:52 AM
You guys getting stuttering, what is the Vidmem being reported under the frame rate counter.  Not the used, that's incorrect at the moment, just the Vidmem.  Does that number correspond with the amount of memory shown in dxdiag?

Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: whels on July 29, 2009, 10:08:34 AM
Whels - in your video settings do you have 'Adaptive Anti Aliasing' on if it's an ATI card, or 'Transparency AntiAliasing' on if the card is nvidia? If so, turn it off and try it.

It was on, turned it off, still stutters :/
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: whels on July 29, 2009, 10:10:18 AM
You guys getting stuttering, what is the Vidmem being reported under the frame rate counter.  Not the used, that's incorrect at the moment, just the Vidmem.  Does that number correspond with the amount of memory shown in dxdiag?



yep shows correct 256 for me.

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Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: kilo2 on July 29, 2009, 10:20:59 AM
You guys getting stuttering, what is the Vidmem being reported under the frame rate counter.  Not the used, that's incorrect at the moment, just the Vidmem.  Does that number correspond with the amount of memory shown in dxdiag?



Yes pyro it does correspond to what shows in dxdiag 1936m on both (or there about)
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Plazus on July 29, 2009, 10:27:54 AM
You guys getting stuttering, what is the Vidmem being reported under the frame rate counter.  Not the used, that's incorrect at the moment, just the Vidmem.  Does that number correspond with the amount of memory shown in dxdiag?



Pyro,

According to the numbers shown in game, it is reporting 2161 MB of video, with 2.4 MB of video used. I have a GeForce 9600 GSO with 768 MB of video memory. Here is my DXDIAG information:

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u138/exodus2243/dxdiag1.jpg)

(http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u138/exodus2243/dxdiag2.jpg)
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Seafit on July 29, 2009, 10:55:11 AM
Reporting the same in DXDiag and in game for me (ATI card) 
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Megalodon on July 29, 2009, 11:05:28 AM
This is my problem. My FR stays high at 75-85 at full clip  at 1024 but I get terrible skipping/stutering, settings on or off.

Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Viperius on July 29, 2009, 11:08:31 AM
vidmem and dxdiag show the same, I was able to minimize the shutters by turning everything AA on application controlled in the catalyst menu.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: 999000 on July 29, 2009, 11:15:52 AM
Pyro, mine says 512 in dxdiag vidieo settings ........in game it reads 512 also.
Thanks 999000
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Pyro on July 29, 2009, 11:37:17 AM
Ok thanks for the info, just needed to verify that a certain state wasn't being mistakenly triggered.

Can you guys with the stutters provide us the following info: 

1-Processor type (please specify single or multiple core)
2- Are you running in compatibility mode. 
3- Amount of video memory.
4- Amount of system memory.

We think we've narrowed it down but need to verify.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Gryffin on July 29, 2009, 11:38:44 AM
I would like to add something here. Both Lusche and Wmaker touched on it. I have noticed that the main time that I get the stutters is when moving the view around (and to a lesser extent when rolling or bringing up the clipboard). I have noticed the following:

- The frame rate counter in the ctrl-i view doesn't seem to accurately reflect the drop in frame rate

- If I release the view key to return the view to the front, then immediately hit it again, the view panning will be smooth as silk. It is as though something is getting cached that is related specifically to panning the view. Either some calculation that has to happen to change the view angle, or perhaps something that comes into view. (I have mainly been testing with the 7 and 9 num keys, so the view angle doesn't really change a lot). I then have to wait 10-20 seconds before the same view movement will cause stuttering again.

- The same with the clipboard. The first time it is brought up it will cause the view to become jerky. But then immediately hiding and bringing it up again is smooth. After a short wait it will be jerky again.

- I have tried turning the graphics settings from the absolute highest to the absolute lowest, and although it has a huge impact on the general frame rate, it has no effect on the additional stuttering I get when panning the view around.

I hope this helps nail down the problem!

In other news, thank you HTC for this great update. The improvement in the graphics is fantastic!
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Seafit on July 29, 2009, 11:45:50 AM
Here are mine

1-Processor type (please specify single or multiple core)

Pentium 4 CPU 2.4 (need I add single)

2- Are you running in compatibility mode.

No

3- Amount of video memory.

256

4- Amount of system memory.

1GB


S
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Amsoil21 on July 29, 2009, 11:52:02 AM
Amd duel core 64 32mhz x 2

gfx memory is 896 mb

4 gig of ram
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Viperius on July 29, 2009, 11:53:25 AM
I fully eliminated all stutters and fps drops by getting the newest drivers for my gfx card and defraging the HDD on which AH is installed. Also set all options in the Catalist control center to application controlled.

AH 2 now runs constant at 60 fps with all settings on full and options on (even shadows). Looks absolutly great  :aok

1-Processor type (please specify single or multiple core)
Intel quadcore i7 920
2- Are you running in compatibility mode.
no
3- Amount of video memory.
1024
4- Amount of system memory.
6 GB
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: 999000 on July 29, 2009, 12:27:06 PM
Intel 2 DUO CPU E8400@3.00GHZ (2cpu)
3072 MB ram
Nvida GeForce 9600GT 512
not sure what compadibility mode means?
Thanks 999000 <S>
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 29, 2009, 12:28:29 PM
CPU:  Core 2 Duo E6420 OC'd to 3.0Ghz
Compatibility Mode:  No
Video Memory:  512megs
System Memory: 2GB

Frame rates are 75 but constant stutters when looking around without a drop in frame rates.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Lusche on July 29, 2009, 12:45:36 PM
Ok thanks for the info, just needed to verify that a certain state wasn't being mistakenly triggered.

Can you guys with the stutters provide us the following info: 

1-Processor type (please specify single or multiple core)
2- Are you running in compatibility mode. 
3- Amount of video memory.
4- Amount of system memory.

We think we've narrowed it down but need to verify.

1 AMD64X2 4200 dual core
2 Yes
3 512 MB
4 2GB
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Scratchman on July 29, 2009, 01:10:42 PM
I tried both.

The stutter I described appears even when never having minimized the program during current session at all, it get's gradually better, but doesn't disappear completely, just less annoying. It seems that some things have to "appear/happen" for the first time, then no more stutter. For example when having used the clipboard several times, it doesn't stutter as much when I open it gain.

Having the game minimized and coming back makes things only worse. (Along with that annyoing 30sec waiting time for the world to build up ;) )

I had close to same problem but mine was only for a 10-20 seconds, then world back up but "blotchy" until after going back to desktop via Windows key and back again. I'm beginning to believe it's a routing issue to the new game, ( if their on new servers ), and everyone with problems are experiencing "hiccups". Anyway A8Tool turned me onto Game Booster, ( a free program ), and so far no stutters after two hours of play, ( keeping fingers crossed ). Go to www.iobit.com (http://www.iobit.com) and D/L game Booster and give it a try. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: WMLute on July 29, 2009, 01:11:25 PM
1. Intel P4 3.0ghz Cedar Mill single core
2. No.  WinXP 32
3. 1 gig  9800gt  (also tried w/ 8600GT 256mb)
4. 2 gig
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Wmaker on July 29, 2009, 01:20:31 PM
To me AH shows the right amount of video memory (same as the Dxdiag, 512mb).

1-Processor type (please specify single or multiple core) - AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 2.2GHz, single core
2- Are you running in compatibility mode. - Using Win XP SP3, no compatibilty modes that I'm aware of
3- Amount of video memory. - 512mb
4- Amount of system memory. - 1024mb
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: whels on July 29, 2009, 01:25:48 PM
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Can you guys with the stutters provide us the following info: 

1-Processor type (please specify single or multiple core)
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 Processor 4000+,  MMX,  3DNow, ~2.4GHz
2- Are you running in compatibility mode. 
NO
3- Amount of video memory.
256 meg
4- Amount of system memory.
2048MB

Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Scratchman on July 29, 2009, 01:26:04 PM
To me AH shows the right amount of video memory (same as the Dxdiag, 512mb).

1-Processor type (please specify single or multiple core) - AMD Athlon 64 3500+ 2.2GHz, single core
2- Are you running in compatibility mode. - Using Win XP SP3, no compatibilty modes that I'm aware of
3- Amount of video memory. - 512mb
4- Amount of system memory. - 1024mb
The compatibility mode they are talking about is playing AH in Windows 98/SE compatability mode. But since your have only a single core CPU not sure if this is a problem for you.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: 5PointOh on July 29, 2009, 01:31:00 PM
1-Processor type (please specify single or multiple core)
2- Are you running in compatibility mode.  No
3- Amount of video memory.
4- Amount of system memory.

See Below, my ingame memory equals the same as the dxdiag...FR is at a contant 59.  Just stutters


System Information
------------------
Time of this report: 7/29/2009, 14:23:47
       Machine name: NATHAN-PC
   Operating System: Windows Vista™ Home Premium (6.0, Build 6002) Service Pack 2 (6002.lh_sp2rtm.090410-1830)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.               
       System Model: Dell DXP061                 
               BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 2.3.1
          Processor: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6600  @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
             Memory: 2046MB RAM
          Page File: 1173MB used, 3167MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\Windows
    DirectX Version: DirectX 10
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 6.00.6001.18000 32bit Unicode

------------
DxDiag Notes
------------
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 2: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.

--------------------
DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D:    0/4 (retail)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (retail)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (retail)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

---------------
Display Devices
---------------
        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 7900 GS
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce 7900 GS
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0292&SUBSYS_037010DE&REV_A1
   Display Memory: 1015 MB
 Dedicated Memory: 248 MB
    Shared Memory: 766 MB
     Current Mode: 1680 x 1050 (32 bit) (60Hz)
          Monitor: Dell E207WFP
      Driver Name: nvd3dum.dll,nvwgf2um.dll
   Driver Version: 7.15.0011.6371 (English)
      DDI Version: 10
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 9/17/2007 08:07:00, 4988928 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp:
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-41D2-11CF-8D6B-7B2301C2CA35}
        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
        Device ID: 0x0292
        SubSys ID: 0x037010DE
      Revision ID: 0x00A1
      Revision ID: 0x00A1
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_C ModeVC1_B ModeWMV9_B ModeVC1_A ModeWMV9_A
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Megalodon on July 29, 2009, 01:40:44 PM
Video Memory is correct in game

Can you guys with the stutters provide us the following info:

1-Processor type (please specify single or multiple core)
AMD 939 Athalon 64 4000+.. 2.85 Single

2- Are you running in compatibility mode.
NO

3- Amount of video memory.
256mb

4- Amount of system memory.
2gigs

Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Yeager on July 29, 2009, 01:41:55 PM
I d d d d dddddd dont st st st ssssssssssstsutter !   :eek:
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Scratchman on July 29, 2009, 01:47:04 PM
Video Memory is correct in game

Can you guys with the stutters provide us the following info:

1-Processor type (please specify single or multiple core)
AMD 939 Athalon 64 4000+.. 2.85 Single

2- Are you running in compatibility mode.
NO

3- Amount of video memory.
256mb

4- Amount of system memory.
2gigs


Windows 98/SE compatability mode. Everything in NVidia Control Panel set to application controlled, and everything turned off in game preferences with 512 Max texture Size. Getting 70-75 fps until I pan around then screen freeze and "stutters". DXINFO below:
System Information
------------------
Time of this report: 7/29/2009, 02:20:28
       Machine name: JOE
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090206-1234)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
       System Model: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
               BIOS: BIOS Date: 05/30/08 14:59:54 Ver: 08.00.15
          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+,  MMX,  3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.9GHz
             Memory: 3328MB RAM
          Page File: 998MB used, 4212MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

------------
DxDiag Notes
------------
  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

--------------------
DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

---------------
Display Devices
---------------
        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0612&SUBSYS_08A219F1&REV_A2
   Display Memory: 512.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (75Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0011.9038 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 7/14/2009 13:54:00, 5842816 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n/a
         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 7/14/2009 13:54:00, 7741664 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4552-11CF-0F59-A92803C2CB35}
        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
        Device ID: 0x0612
        SubSys ID: 0x08A219F1
      Revision ID: 0x00A2
      Revision ID: 0x00A2
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: MORAY37 on July 29, 2009, 01:49:18 PM
Add me to list.

Low end rig, FR steady at 40-50 with annoying stutters every 5 seconds or so.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Amsoil21 on July 29, 2009, 02:56:42 PM
yer its lovely the terains and stuff but just doesnt run smooth. just very random stutters and pauses, just enuf to make flying not so fun.

i hope a boffin out there can fix this soon :aok
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Wobbly on July 29, 2009, 03:01:09 PM
try turning down hardware acceration on your sound card a notch - thats an old IL2 trick when that used to get stutters
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Amsoil21 on July 29, 2009, 03:09:48 PM
i have a onboard sound device, any ideas if i can adjust this still . if so where do i get to it.   running vista 32 home premium
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Plazus on July 29, 2009, 03:29:51 PM
Ok thanks for the info, just needed to verify that a certain state wasn't being mistakenly triggered.

Can you guys with the stutters provide us the following info: 

1-Processor type (please specify single or multiple core)
2- Are you running in compatibility mode. 
3- Amount of video memory.
4- Amount of system memory.

We think we've narrowed it down but need to verify.

Okay Pyro, here is what I have:

1. AMD Athlon 64 X2 5200+ (2.7 GHz)
2. I am running in compatability
3. 768 MB of video memory (GeForce 9600 GSO)
4. 4 GB of RAM
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Wmaker on July 29, 2009, 03:39:07 PM
The compatibility mode they are talking about is playing AH in Windows 98/SE compatability mode. But since your have only a single core CPU not sure if this is a problem for you.

Rgr that. I think I somehow confused that with the talk about Vista's "run as an administrator" feature at first. Havent really had the need to touch that setting.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Amsoil21 on July 29, 2009, 04:07:06 PM
Amd duel core 64 32mhz x 2

gfx memory is 896 mb

4 gig of ram

ohh yes i am running compatibility mode
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Wobbly on July 29, 2009, 04:29:56 PM
i have a onboard sound device, any ideas if i can adjust this still . if so where do i get to it.   running vista 32 home premium

You can do it from the sound tab in DXDiag (if vista has that, I dunno as i'm on XP)

Also might me worth investing in a soundcoard to take some of the work from the processor

I bought one of these, sounds improved and more immersive over a cheaper sound card

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129740 (http://www.ebuyer.com/product/129740)
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Speed55 on July 29, 2009, 06:48:11 PM
CPU:  Core 2 Duo E6400
Compatibility Mode: XPSP3 - No
Video Memory:  512megs
System Memory: 2GB
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Belial on July 29, 2009, 07:17:53 PM
I have frame rate of 75 with everything but shadows enabled, I have an Nvidia 9600 and my computers a dell inspiron 530S...I too am getting stutters that I didnt get in the Beta.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Scratchman on July 29, 2009, 07:34:37 PM
I have frame rate of 75 with everything but shadows enabled, I have an Nvidia 9600 and my computers a dell inspiron 530S...I too am getting stutters that I didnt get in the Beta.
Yes and here is the fix!!!! That's right finally got my computer to run with NO STUTTERS!!! It seems for whatever reason all of us who are having stutters have either Intel or AMD multi-cores, with graphic cards that give us great frame rates till the "hiccups" occur. What I did even after freeing up all system resources,
( I have 4 gigs of ram ), put more of the work load on my video card. By bumping up my Maximum pre-rendered frames to 4, I am able to use 75%-85% of my video's ram, versus of a setting of 3 Maximum pre-rendered frames and using only 50% of my video ram. Not sure what is in the coad that affects us multi-core users but the flow of data from the CPU to the GPU seems to be the key. I have now flown with everything on gettin 73-75 fps and NO lock-ups or stutters for over 3 hours now. Keep in mind with however much ram you have on your video card you may need to tweak the numer of frames that suits your ssytem best. But with 512 MB on my video card this setting seems to work the best for me. Wish everyone luck, and hopes this works for you.  :pray
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: USCH on July 29, 2009, 07:53:08 PM
Yes and here is the fix!!!! That's right finally got my computer to run with NO STUTTERS!!! It seems for whatever reason all of us who are having stutters have either Intel or AMD multi-cores, with graphic cards that give us great frame rates till the "hiccups" occur. What I did even after freeing up all system resources,
( I have 4 gigs of ram ), put more of the work load on my video card. By bumping up my Maximum pre-rendered frames to 4, I am able to use 75%-85% of my video's ram, versus of a setting of 3 Maximum pre-rendered frames and using only 50% of my video ram. Not sure what is in the coad that affects us multi-core users but the flow of data from the CPU to the GPU seems to be the key. I have now flown with everything on gettin 73-75 fps and NO lock-ups or stutters for over 3 hours now. Keep in mind with however much ram you have on your video card you may need to tweak the numer of frames that suits your ssytem best. But with 512 MB on my video card this setting seems to work the best for me. Wish everyone luck, and hopes this works for you.  :pray
sounds like my problem as well... now just how do i do it
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Lusche on July 29, 2009, 07:57:02 PM
Yes and here is the fix!!!! That's right finally got my computer to run with NO STUTTERS!!! It seems for whatever reason all of us who are having stutters have either Intel or AMD multi-cores, with graphic cards that give us great frame rates till the "hiccups" occur. What I did even after freeing up all system resources,
( I have 4 gigs of ram ), put more of the work load on my video card. By bumping up my Maximum pre-rendered frames to 4, I am able to use 75%-85% of my video's ram, versus of a setting of 3 Maximum pre-rendered frames and using only 50% of my video ram. Not sure what is in the coad that affects us multi-core users but the flow of data from the CPU to the GPU seems to be the key. I have now flown with everything on gettin 73-75 fps and NO lock-ups or stutters for over 3 hours now. Keep in mind with however much ram you have on your video card you may need to tweak the numer of frames that suits your ssytem best. But with 512 MB on my video card this setting seems to work the best for me. Wish everyone luck, and hopes this works for you.  :pray

What texture size, resolution and card do you have?

I did a quick test for me in offline mode (9600GT 512MB, 1280*1024, textures 512), and did try all settings from 3-8 (each time restarting game of course.
The differences in used vid mem were absolute minimal, and I couldn't get over 25% used vid mem.

EDIT: made no difference in online play.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Madkow on July 29, 2009, 08:35:14 PM
Didn't help at all I even bumped it up to 6
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: morfiend on July 29, 2009, 08:40:18 PM
  1  core duo E8400
  2 no
 3 512 gpu mem
 3 4 gigs pc 8400

 Vista 64 bit.......


 Having FR drops,to low 40's gets better the longer it runs.
 But these micro stutters,so called,occur when moving hatswitch,rolling A/C or any change of views,seem like the movement isnt smooth.I'm no expert but is there a smoothing Code?? could that be some of the problem?

 Hope this helps!
   :salute
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: LLv34_Dictonius on July 29, 2009, 09:13:30 PM
1. AMD Athlon 64 x2 Dual core processor 5400+ (2.81 Ghz)
2. No compatibility mode (tried Windows 98/NT but plays no difference)
3. Vid memory 512 (nvidia 8800gt)
4. 2 Gb system memory

Hope you can diagnose this alzheimer disease and bring relief for the stuttering :)
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: 96Delta on July 29, 2009, 10:08:56 PM
Check out this tutorial.

http://david.tenifer.com/aceshigh/pdf/LCA-TB09-029.pdf
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Scratchman on July 29, 2009, 10:14:14 PM
What texture size, resolution and card do you have?

I did a quick test for me in offline mode (9600GT 512MB, 1280*1024, textures 512), and did try all settings from 3-8 (each time restarting game of course.
The differences in used vid mem were absolute minimal, and I couldn't get over 25% used vid mem.

EDIT: made no difference in online play.

Seems others didn't have any luck with this either. The only other thing that I did was under Video Settings prior to going to the game on the clipboard, I selected the Set Custom Field of View to manual and left the grayed out number as default as the value, ( for me it was 86 ) instead of letting the game automatically set the view. Don't ask me why I did it, I was looking for everything/anything to get the game to play. I have now had over 5 hours of uninterupted game play, no "stutters" or "lock-ups". As for my settings the resolution is 1280 X 1024, and texture size is at 1024 instead of the recommended 512. I have AA at 2X, and all the bells and whistles enabled under the advanced settings. Below is my DXDIAG: Hope this helps.

------------------
System Information
------------------
Time of this report: 7/29/2009, 02:20:28
       Machine name: JOE
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090206-1234)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
       System Model: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
               BIOS: BIOS Date: 05/30/08 14:59:54 Ver: 08.00.15
          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+,  MMX,  3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.9GHz
             Memory: 3328MB RAM
          Page File: 998MB used, 4212MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

------------
DxDiag Notes
------------
  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

--------------------
DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

---------------
Display Devices
---------------
        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0612&SUBSYS_08A219F1&REV_A2
   Display Memory: 512.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (75Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0011.9038 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 7/14/2009 13:54:00, 5842816 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n/a
         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 7/14/2009 13:54:00, 7741664 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4552-11CF-0F59-A92803C2CB35}
        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
        Device ID: 0x0612
        SubSys ID: 0x08A219F1
      Revision ID: 0x00A2
      Revision ID: 0x00A2
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Scratchman on July 29, 2009, 11:18:54 PM
Check out this tutorial.

http://david.tenifer.com/aceshigh/pdf/LCA-TB09-029.pdf
Ty for your post, excellent job!
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: USCH on July 30, 2009, 12:42:55 PM
any new news? im about at the end of my... trying to uses everyones "I think i got it boys"  :D
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Amsoil21 on July 30, 2009, 12:51:21 PM
yer no joy for me either  :frown:
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: SectorNine50 on July 30, 2009, 01:32:21 PM
1-Processor type (please specify single or multiple core) Intel P4 3.4Ghz Hyperthreaded
2- Are you running in compatibility mode.  No
3- Amount of video memory. 128MB
4- Amount of system memory. 3GB
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Baumer on July 30, 2009, 02:07:00 PM
1-Processor type (please specify single or multiple core)
2- Are you running in compatibility mode.
3- Amount of video memory.
4- Amount of system memory.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: whels on July 30, 2009, 03:27:24 PM
Stutter still there with latest patch :/
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: WMLute on July 30, 2009, 03:31:25 PM
Stutter still there with latest patch :/

Yup.  Stutters still alive and well w/ the new patch.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Plazus on July 30, 2009, 03:40:11 PM
Stutters have been significantly reduced with the new patch. There are still a few of the stutters, especially when I roll my plane from side to side, or turn my head. So far so good, just keep up with the good work, HTC!  :salute
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Overlag on July 30, 2009, 03:44:26 PM
one word

awful.  :cry
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Scratchman on July 30, 2009, 03:56:27 PM
Stutters have been significantly reduced with the new patch. There are still a few of the stutters, especially when I roll my plane from side to side, or turn my head. So far so good, just keep up with the good work, HTC!  :salute
Same here, much better but mine seems to be due to lost connections, or something involving memory dumps causing the disconnects. But I see an improvement.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: morfiend on July 30, 2009, 04:40:06 PM
Good news!!!

 I set anthroscopic transperency to off, it was set to triliniar or biliniar.

 I noticed this in another thread and thought I'd check,anyways this seems to have solved my probs.

 I have full AA set ingame,maxed settings,shadows,shadow smooth and the other eye candy.

 Now my framerate is locked at refresh,no stutters,no micro stutters and with the new lighting I can almost see plane past D200...... :x

 Not sure what the latest patch did but this was before the patch and since the new patch all's the same.

   :salute
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Scratchman on July 30, 2009, 04:46:54 PM
Good news!!!

 I set anthroscopic transperency to off, it was set to triliniar or biliniar.

 I noticed this in another thread and thought I'd check,anyways this seems to have solved my probs.

 I have full AA set ingame,maxed settings,shadows,shadow smooth and the other eye candy.

 Now my framerate is locked at refresh,no stutters,no micro stutters and with the new lighting I can almost see plane past D200...... :x

 Not sure what the latest patch did but this was before the patch and since the new patch all's the same.

   :salute
That is good news for you bud. Happy hunting.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Plazus on July 30, 2009, 05:01:00 PM
Good news!!!

 I set anthroscopic transperency to off, it was set to triliniar or biliniar.

 I noticed this in another thread and thought I'd check,anyways this seems to have solved my probs.

 I have full AA set ingame,maxed settings,shadows,shadow smooth and the other eye candy.

 Now my framerate is locked at refresh,no stutters,no micro stutters and with the new lighting I can almost see plane past D200...... :x

 Not sure what the latest patch did but this was before the patch and since the new patch all's the same.

   :salute

I have had the transparency set to off the whole time. Stuttering persists.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: WMLute on July 30, 2009, 05:06:10 PM
Did you mean Antialiasing transparency?
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Plazus on July 30, 2009, 05:08:11 PM
Did you mean Antialiasing transparency?

Turned off too. Same results.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Scratchman on July 30, 2009, 07:34:46 PM
Sigh....newest patch put me back to drawing board. Now I can't play at all.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: morfiend on July 30, 2009, 07:59:31 PM
Did you mean Antialiasing transparency?



  Yes,sry for any confussion....

 read my sig,it explains all!!

   :salute
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: TwinBoom on July 30, 2009, 08:23:46 PM
stuttering worse now
Time of this report: 7/30/2009, 21:12:13
       Machine name: DELLXPS
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.090206-1233)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: Dell Inc.               
       System Model: Dimension XPSGEN5           
               BIOS: Phoenix ROM BIOS PLUS Version 1.10 A04
          Processor: Genuine Intel(R) CPU 3.00GHz (2 CPUs)
             Memory: 3070MB RAM
          Page File: 315MB used, 5664MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

------------
DxDiag Notes
------------
  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

--------------------
DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
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        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce 8800 GTS
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0193&SUBSYS_22521682&REV_A2
   Display Memory: 320.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (75Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0011.8206 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 2/9/2009 13:18:00, 6185088 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n/a
         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 2/9/2009 13:18:00, 6307328 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-42D3-11CF-3C55-590203C2CB35}
        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
        Device ID: 0x0193
        SubSys ID: 0x22521682
      Revision ID: 0x00A2
      Revision ID: 0x00A2
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_A ModeMPEG2_B ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D ModeWMV9_B ModeWMV9_A
 Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(UYVY,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
                   {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(NV12,0x3231564e) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
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         Registry: OK
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
 D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
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            Description: SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [CCC0]
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_0004&SUBSYS_20021102&REV_04
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
         Driver Version: 5.12.0001.1196 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 8/11/2006 15:45:38, 499584 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Creative
         HW Accel Level: Standard
              Cap Flags: 0xF5F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 4000, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 64, 62
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 64, 62
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: No
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: No, No
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
               Registry: OK
      Sound Test Result: Not run

---------------------
Sound Capture Devices
---------------------
            Description: SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [CCC0]
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
         Driver Version: 5.12.0001.1196 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 8/11/2006 15:45:38, 499584 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x41
           Format Flags: 0xFFF

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DirectMusic
-----------
        DLS Path: C:\WINDOWS\SYSTEM32\drivers\GM.DLS
     DLS Version: 1.00.0016.0002
    Acceleration: Enabled
           Ports: SB Audigy 2 ZS DirectMusic Synthesizer [CCC0], Hardware (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal, Default Port
                  SB Audigy 2 ZS Audio [CCC0], Software (Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
                  Microsoft MIDI Mapper [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
                  SB Audigy 2 ZS Synth B [CCC0] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
                  SB Audigy 2 ZS Sw Synth [CCC0] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
                  SB Audigy 2 ZS Synth A [CCC0] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
                  SB Audigy 2 ZS MIDI IO [CCC0] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, External
                  Microsoft GS Wavetable SW Synth [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Output, No DLS, Internal
                  SB Audigy 2 ZS MIDI IO [CCC0] [Emulated], Hardware (Not Kernel Mode), Input, No DLS, External
                  Microsoft Synthesizer, Software (Not Kernel Mode), Output, DLS, Internal
        Registry: OK
     Test Result: Not run

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DirectInput Devices
-------------------
      Device Name: Mouse
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Keyboard
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: n/a
Vendor/Product ID: n/a
        FF Driver: n/a

      Device Name: Microsoft SideWinder Precision 2
         Attached: 1
    Controller ID: 0x0
Vendor/Product ID: 0x045E, 0x0038
        FF Driver: n/a

Poll w/ Interrupt: No
         Registry: OK

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USB Devices
-----------
+ USB Root Hub
| Vendor/Product ID: 0x8086, 0x27C8
| Matching Device ID: usb\root_hub
| Service: usbhub
| Driver: usbhub.sys, 8/4/2004 00:08:44, 57600 bytes
| Driver: usbd.sys, 2/28/2006 08:00:00, 4736 bytes

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Gameport Devices
----------------
+ Intel(R) 82801 PCI Bridge - 244E
| Location: PCI bus 0, device 30, function 0
| Matching Device ID: pci\ven_8086&dev_244e
| Service: pci
| Driver: pci.sys, 8/4/2004 00:07:48, 68224 bytes
|
+-+ Creative Game Port
| | Location: PCI bus 5, device 3, function 1
| | Matching Device ID: pci\ven_1102&dev_7003&subsys_00401102
| | Service: gameenum
| | Driver: gameenum.sys, 8/4/2004 00:08:22, 10624 bytes

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PS/2 Devices
------------
+ Standard 101/102-Key or Microsoft Natural PS/2 Keyboard
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0303
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 2/28/2006 08:00:00, 52736 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 2/28/2006 08:00:00, 24576 bytes
|
+ HID Keyboard Device
| Matching Device ID: hid_device_system_keyboard
| Service: kbdhid
| Driver: kbdhid.sys, 8/3/2004 23:58:36, 14848 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 2/28/2006 08:00:00, 24576 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Keyboard Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_kbd
| Upper Filters: kbdclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 02:01:08, 40840 bytes
| Driver: kbdclass.sys, 2/28/2006 08:00:00, 24576 bytes
|
+ PS/2 Compatible Mouse
| Matching Device ID: *pnp0f13
| Service: i8042prt
| Driver: i8042prt.sys, 2/28/2006 08:00:00, 52736 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 2/28/2006 08:00:00, 23040 bytes
|
+ Terminal Server Mouse Driver
| Matching Device ID: root\rdp_mou
| Upper Filters: mouclass
| Service: TermDD
| Driver: termdd.sys, 8/4/2004 02:01:08, 40840 bytes
| Driver: mouclass.sys, 2/28/2006 08:00:00, 23040 bytes
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: xbrit on July 30, 2009, 10:52:31 PM
Well not saying it will work for everyone but it worked for me so far. I did a fresh install and cut back to 512 textures, and now I'm able to go fight without a huge FR hit and lots of stuttering.
I'm managing to get 50-60 FR in normal flight and maybe drop down to 40-ish in a furball. All of my viewing sliders are now back to the position I had them for the previous version and the terrain is looking good. Knowing my luck I should have stayed quiet just in case it goes downhill again tomorrow!
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Seafit on July 31, 2009, 03:54:55 AM
Still getting the stuttering problem although it has improved since the patch.
I tried the 'Flip queue size' changes some suggested but no change to stutter from those changes.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: save on July 31, 2009, 04:22:16 AM
Here is a sollution that works for me , eliminating strutters that occurs ever 3-5 second :

AMD Opteron 185
2 gig ram
nvidia 8800gts  320 meg ram


Start AH2 . go into video settings - change max texture to something else from what you have / or want .
Change max texture settings back to what you want / had

Now my machine is struttering free !!!!!
why  ? - ask someone else  :)
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Bruv119 on July 31, 2009, 04:51:33 AM
from pyro news thread


The new patch is now available now.  This should resolve the major stuttering issues that many people have been experiencing.  On low end systems, it may take a little longer in this version before all the textures are fully loaded.  There's still a few more changes that HT wants to make in this area to make things a bit cleaner and quicker.

A lot of people have reported issues with degraded texture quality even when using the high res texture pack.  That is unchanged in this patch but we expect that to be changed in the next patch.

If you are using Vista, please remember to run the game as an administrator prior to using the autoupdater so that the installation doesn't fail.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: LLv34_Dictonius on July 31, 2009, 06:57:47 AM
At least for me the stutter is all gone - thank you HTC! :x
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Amsoil21 on July 31, 2009, 11:59:20 AM
mine still is bad  :cry 

i have every bit of convidence htc will sort it  :aok
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Hazzer on July 31, 2009, 12:30:35 PM
 Still stuttering with new patch ,though I detect some improvement;GV'ing is exceptable ,I'll have to GV for a while and hope for a fix.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Ack-Ack on July 31, 2009, 12:48:34 PM
Still suffering from stutters after the update as well.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: comet61 on July 31, 2009, 02:34:46 PM
Though this may have been mentioned before...my apologies: I have noticed that the option to pre-load textures into memory is no longer in the new version, or if it is I haven't seen it. In the previous version I would get stutters and hesitant frames and when I activated the pre-load option...it went away. But now that option seems to be no longer available. Wonder if the new version does this automatically or what.  :confused:

Also...I did defrag the HD and it did seem to help with the stutters I get sometimes. My FR is about 45-115 give or take. :rolleyes:
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Amsoil21 on July 31, 2009, 05:48:16 PM
nice point comet maybe that has something to do with it
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Scratchman on August 01, 2009, 03:35:13 AM
Stuttering all gone for me after latest patch, but did experience 1 hard lockup after 6 hours of play. I also experienced a lost udp switching connection to tcp, and in which another message popped up informing me of the expanded terrain graphics was being removed, ( btw graphics was misspelled in this message, no biggie ). I feel this occurred because I was tweaking the expanded terrains to full to see how much I could run, while in the middle of a lot of action. Other than having to run without having additional skins on, or self shadowing on a much better experience overall. In case you need my spec's I will post my DXDIAG again here. On video card everything is set to application controlled and set for high performance. Within the game I have a small amount of AA enabled, resolution set at 1280 X 1024 and 512 Max textures. And by the way I am not running in compatablity mode, both cores seem to be doing just fine in the game.

System Information
------------------
Time of this report: 8/1/2009, 03:32:36
       Machine name: JOE
   Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.090206-1234)
           Language: English (Regional Setting: English)
System Manufacturer: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
       System Model: To Be Filled By O.E.M.
               BIOS: BIOS Date: 05/30/08 14:59:54 Ver: 08.00.15
          Processor: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5600+,  MMX,  3DNow (2 CPUs), ~2.9GHz
             Memory: 3328MB RAM
          Page File: 528MB used, 4682MB available
        Windows Dir: C:\WINDOWS
    DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
DX Setup Parameters: Not found
     DxDiag Version: 5.03.2600.2180 32bit Unicode

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DxDiag Notes
------------
  DirectX Files Tab: No problems found.
      Display Tab 1: No problems found.
        Sound Tab 1: No problems found.
          Music Tab: No problems found.
          Input Tab: No problems found.
        Network Tab: No problems found.

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DirectX Debug Levels
--------------------
Direct3D:    0/4 (n/a)
DirectDraw:  0/4 (retail)
DirectInput: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectMusic: 0/5 (n/a)
DirectPlay:  0/9 (retail)
DirectSound: 0/5 (retail)
DirectShow:  0/6 (retail)

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Display Devices
---------------
        Card name: NVIDIA GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+
     Manufacturer: NVIDIA
        Chip type: GeForce 9800 GTX/9800 GTX+
         DAC type: Integrated RAMDAC
       Device Key: Enum\PCI\VEN_10DE&DEV_0612&SUBSYS_08A219F1&REV_A2
   Display Memory: 512.0 MB
     Current Mode: 1280 x 1024 (32 bit) (75Hz)
          Monitor: Plug and Play Monitor
  Monitor Max Res: 1600,1200
      Driver Name: nv4_disp.dll
   Driver Version: 6.14.0011.9038 (English)
      DDI Version: 9 (or higher)
Driver Attributes: Final Retail
 Driver Date/Size: 7/14/2009 13:54:00, 5842816 bytes
      WHQL Logo'd: Yes
  WHQL Date Stamp: n/a
              VDD: n/a
         Mini VDD: nv4_mini.sys
    Mini VDD Date: 7/14/2009 13:54:00, 7741664 bytes
Device Identifier: {D7B71E3E-4552-11CF-0F59-A92803C2CB35}
        Vendor ID: 0x10DE
        Device ID: 0x0612
        SubSys ID: 0x08A219F1
      Revision ID: 0x00A2
      Revision ID: 0x00A2
      Video Accel: ModeMPEG2_C ModeMPEG2_D
 Deinterlace Caps: {6CB69578-7617-4637-91E5-1C02DB810285}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_PixelAdaptive
                   {335AA36E-7884-43A4-9C91-7F87FAF3E37E}: Format(In/Out)=(YUY2,YUY2) Frames(Prev/Fwd/Back)=(0,0,0) Caps=VideoProcess_YUV2RGB VideoProcess_StretchX VideoProcess_StretchY DeinterlaceTech_BOBVerticalSt retch
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         Registry: OK
     DDraw Status: Enabled
       D3D Status: Enabled
       AGP Status: Enabled
DDraw Test Result: Not run
 D3D7 Test Result: Not run
 D3D8 Test Result: Not run
 D3D9 Test Result: Not run

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Sound Devices
-------------
            Description: SB X-Fi Audio [0001]
 Default Sound Playback: Yes
 Default Voice Playback: Yes
            Hardware ID: PCI\VEN_1102&DEV_000B&SUBSYS_00431102&REV_03
        Manufacturer ID: 1
             Product ID: 100
                   Type: WDM
            Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.1344 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
            WHQL Logo'd: Yes
          Date and Size: 8/6/2008 23:02:42, 534808 bytes
            Other Files:
        Driver Provider: Creative
         HW Accel Level: Full
              Cap Flags: 0xF5F
    Min/Max Sample Rate: 1, 192000
Static/Strm HW Mix Bufs: 128, 128
 Static/Strm HW 3D Bufs: 128, 128
              HW Memory: 0
       Voice Management: Yes
 EAX(tm) 2.0 Listen/Src: Yes, Yes
   I3DL2(tm) Listen/Src: No, No
Sensaura(tm) ZoomFX(tm): No
               Registry: OK
      Sound Test Result: Not run

---------------------
Sound Capture Devices
---------------------
            Description: SB X-Fi Audio [0001]
  Default Sound Capture: Yes
  Default Voice Capture: Yes
            Driver Name: ctaud2k.sys
         Driver Version: 6.00.0001.1344 (English)
      Driver Attributes: Final Retail
          Date and Size: 8/6/2008 23:02:42, 534808 bytes
              Cap Flags: 0x41
           Format Flags: 0xFFF
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Hazzer on August 01, 2009, 04:15:07 AM
 Flyable with latest patch. :aok
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Amsoil21 on August 01, 2009, 05:09:59 AM
yes much much better not quite perfect but very playable :aok
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Speed55 on August 01, 2009, 08:59:17 AM
Much Much better than before, but the stutters are still there. So whatever direction you're headed towards the fix, keep going.  :aok
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Seafit on August 01, 2009, 09:45:55 AM
Still getting stuttering but much improved again.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Ack-Ack on August 01, 2009, 03:06:13 PM
Still suffering from stutters after the update as well.


ack-ack

Update:  With patch 3, updating my ATI card to the latest Catalyst 9.7 drivers fixed the problem of the stutters and corrupted local reflection graphics.  If you're still experiencing stutters and/or local reflections is corrupted, try updating your video drivers to the most recent version.  You should also see a frame rate increase as well.


ack-ack
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: MORAY37 on August 02, 2009, 03:29:58 PM
I've gotten my rig within acceptable standards again, through trial and error.  (850 mHZ AMD processor (overclocked), Nvidia 8600 card (Overclocked) 750 Watt power supply, 2 gigs RAM)

#1.  Defrag twice after the initial download and re-installation of the game.
       I don't know why, but my entire HTC folder was fragmented after installation, around 1500 frags first defrag, 100 on the second, zero on the third.  I've never had this issue from previous upgrades or patches, but this was a complete rewrite of the game, so that makes sense.

#2. Drivers
        My stutters in game seemed to be most directly a  result of my AUDIO card drivers.  I specifically had a creative labs FATALITY soundcard. Erase old drivers FIRST, then download and install the newer ones.  This only happened since the new update, and wasn't an issue prior.

#3.  Process Management
         If you haven't downloaded "Gamebooster"(http://www.iobit.com/gamebooster.html (http://www.iobit.com/gamebooster.html)) I highly recommend it.  It will disable all the processes not needed to run AH2 and transfer that usage to the program, making it faster.  It's free and enables game mode and normal mode at the touch of a button.... very user friendly. 

I've currently got my 10 year old rig running stable at 45-50 FPS average (75 high end) in all but the most packed areas, where it drops into the 30's, without all the eye candy.  Eye Candy takes me down into the low 20's in FR, but I didn't even want the eye candy in the first place.  All the beotching from you guys, and it just takes a couple hours to get a crappy rig running to acceptable standards to kill.

Hope this helps someone in need.


       
     
       
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Bruv119 on August 03, 2009, 12:34:23 AM
Update:  With patch 3, updating my ATI card to the latest Catalyst 9.7 drivers fixed the problem of the stutters and corrupted local reflection graphics.  If you're still experiencing stutters and/or local reflections is corrupted, try updating your video drivers to the most recent version.  You should also see a frame rate increase as well.


ack-ack

go to start  >>> run >>> type dxdiag >>> click display tab at the top >>>>  driver date / version is in the top right. 

I tried to load beta got a big blue screen,  got latest drivers everything runs fine.  This is one of the FIRST things you guys need to check.
Title: Re: Stuttering !!
Post by: Speed55 on August 09, 2009, 08:16:59 AM
Latest version seems to have eliminated the majority of the stuttering for me. 

When i first ran the game with patch 4, i was still getting major stutters, but i did a defrag, then changed the video settings and that seemed to fix it.

So far i'm running 512 texture with the sliders pegged to the left, and i only get very minor stutters every few minutes as opposed to major stutters every few seconds.


I'll try it with the hi-res later on and see if it's my computer that's holding me back.

Thanks for the fix.  :aok