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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Mano on August 12, 2009, 01:02:24 PM
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The programmers in Grapevine designed the original "Dawn of Aces"......would be nice if they did another WWI sim.
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It's just not my bag Mano. I guess I just feel more of a connection to the WW II era than WW I.
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Oh yes, instantly... Where do I pay my 15 bucks?
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I'd do it if we can do Immelmans in our dirigibles. :x
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All these manuvers in Slow motion so even the noobs can get it right!
(http://i631.photobucket.com/albums/uu34/maha3499/Air/Rickenbacker.gif)
Exciting choice of skins!
(http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n198/camcleod2006/WW1%20Air/J37-MARKINGS.jpg)
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Me
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Me
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So far
5 yay
1 ney
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I'd fly WWI aircraft exclusively. Hell yes!
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I would LOVE a WW1 arena.
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I would love it if HTC built a WW1 arena!
I bought Rise of Aces recently, hoping for a good WW1 sim... Unfortunately, while the game is very pretty to look at, the setup and game play is very ugly. In my opinion. Wish I could get my $40 back.
C'mon Hitech, you could start with maybe 4 aircraft... Use your existing physics and terrain systems... Just another arena... It would be fun! I wouldn't even mind if you bumped the sub rate to 19.95!
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Use your existing physics and terrain systems... Just another arena... It would be fun!
Really, oh golly G I never thought of that.
HiTech
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Hahaha. We d love it HT
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As i recall, the WW1 arena in AW was usually fairly empty. The slow speed fights were a lot of fun but the novelty seemed to wear off real quick after a few fights and also trying to deal with the weird biplane views.
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<--- Would be a customer 4 life! :aok
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I think its a good idea, but personally i wouldnt fly in there.
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I wouldn't even mind if you bumped the sub rate to 19.95!
Remind me not to have PFactorDave do any negotiating for me.
Changing to WW I would require changes/elimination of major current game components. No naval aviation. Limited ground vehicles. Limited bombing. No paratroopers. Heck, even limited bailing out. Only European maps. Smaller distances. No radar. Airfields that are actually fields.
For the record, it is all very appealing to me. It seems like a lot of work for HTC. If they offered a WW I arena and aircraft to the same standards as the current AH 2, it would be great. For the effort though, it could end up being a fringe arena, like Early War or AvA.
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WWI would be interesting... however there's another air war that appeals to me more...
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/89/DornierC-Legion.jpg)
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WWI would be interesting... however there's another air war that appeals to me more...
Spanish Civil War would be cool. As would the invasion of France. As would early China theater stuff, maybe Khalkhin Gol.
The plane sets would be very cool, but also very early. Bf 109B anyone?
Is it worth the efforts by HTC?
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Remind me not to have PFactorDave do any negotiating for me.
Changing to WW I would require changes/elimination of major current game components. No naval aviation. Limited ground vehicles. Limited bombing. No paratroopers. Heck, even limited bailing out. Only European maps. Smaller distances. No radar. Airfields that are actually fields.
For the record, it is all very appealing to me. It seems like a lot of work for HTC. If they offered a WW I arena and aircraft to the same standards as the current AH 2, it would be great. For the effort though, it could end up being a fringe arena, like Early War or AvA.
Ahhh but you're missing some vital components there (if HTC were to actually do it)...no 3 plane flight of Lancs carpet bombing a town to rubble in one run...no serious puffy ack.
There was some naval aviation during WWI...http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_HMS_Campania.html (http://www.historyofwar.org/articles/weapons_HMS_Campania.html)
If gv's were introduced it could be something like these: http://www.wio.ru/tank/ww1tank.htm (http://www.wio.ru/tank/ww1tank.htm)
No 5k one shot kills...and you can't take those out by strafing them...LOL
Of course HTC probably could do it but like Shiv said...the novelty would wear off quickly.
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As i recall, the WW1 arena in AW was usually fairly empty. The slow speed fights were a lot of fun but the novelty seemed to wear off real quick after a few fights and also trying to deal with the weird biplane views.
This is Aces High. Excuses of the past are null and void and I believe Dale knows this. There is a substantial WWI "following" in this Community.
The views of the infancy of Aviation will take a back seat to the better fights.
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As I mentioned in another thread, they could always build a WW1 plane for an Evil Con Mission and conveniently forget to disable it later :D
C'mon, there must have been SOME country that had an old clunker flying around during WW2?
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As I mentioned in another thread, they could always build a WW1 plane for an Evil Con Mission and conveniently forget to disable it later :D
C'mon, there must have been SOME country that had an old clunker flying around during WW2?
What do you call the Brewster and I16?
(http://cache.boston.com/resize/bonzai-fba/Reuters_Photo/2009/08/03/1249304450_2909/539w.jpg)
*Edit* oops...good catch Motherland...didn't realize the typo.
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What the hell is an iL6? :noid
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I'm sure there are a lot of people outside of aces high tht would love a good WWI sim. And from the reports I'm hearing abot RoF, they are still waiting for one. I'd be intersted, would I fly it exclusivley? Hell no, but would venture in there quite often
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What do you call the Brewster and I16?
I call the Brewster the evilest little plane ever invented, and the I-16 the semi-annoying gnat :)
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Count me in! :aok
Also, this might be an arena where TrackIr is more useful (I have a feeling I would use it exclusively in a WWI arena).
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Good sir.. those of us who have been playing for last five or six YEARS...APPRECITE anything NEW WWI... WWII who cares any change for our MONEY is apprecited!!!!!!!
PS...WE are COAD
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Really, oh golly G I never thought of that.
HiTech
:aok Glad I could help Sir Snarkiness! :D
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I would equally support either a WW1 arena, or a Korea arena.
If I had to pick, the nod would go to Korea, but just slightly.
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What the hell is an iL6? :noid
4 times better than an IL2 :D
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i'll stick with my ww2 stuff. it's fun. it's what does the most for me.
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It really does make you a better WWII Sim pilot. You learn all the moves, learn to really really really conserve E, and the Rudder Pedals become your new best friend.
I loved those furballs, and I hate furballs in AH.
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No thanks... I'd like to find a modern online combat sim. I'd really love HTC to make one.
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3 WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RISE OF FLIGHT, google it!
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4 times better than an IL2 :D
Math is not your thing is it?
BTW: A large pooping "heck yes" on the WW1 idea.
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3 WORDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
RISE OF FLIGHT, google it!
Three letters: P.O.S.
BTW "google it" is out & "Bing-ing" is in.
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4 times better than an IL2 :D
4 x 2 = 6? :huh
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Three letter: P.O.S.
Have to agree with this 100%.
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I'd fly it, Dawn of Aces was my first real flight sim
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You know the great thing about this is that the owner of the company actually replies to these threads. Even if his replies are sarcastic he lets you know he is listening. I have been pissed at game play and getting muted before but i give respect to Hitech for replying and letting us know he is paying attention to his customers.
Oh yeah i would love to fly in a WWI arena!
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After I read Eddie Rickenbacker's "Fighting the Flying Circus" I've wanted a WW1 arena since. :aok
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I would be up for some WWI action. Over Flanders Fields is a pretty cool sim but the multi-player sucked last time I checked. The old DoA was fun but I didnt care for the view system...it was just like WarBirds....sucks!!! Have not tried Flyboys yet... HTC should try it.... what else have they got to do.....hehe
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So far the Yays outnumber the Nays! :rock
I'm really glad to hear from all you <S>....... in favor or against, the owner's of Hi Tech will see your responses.
I have Rise of Flight. It is ahead of everyone else in graphic detail, damage models, flight models, ect,
BUT they do not have a massive player arena like Aces High II. It is also very difficult to install and
requires a core 2 cpu (minimum) and an expensive video card to run it if you want to enjoy the graphic details.
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Mano
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I'd fly it... Albatros III... ahhh :pray
There is even an obvious choice for a skin... right column, third from bottom. Just some personal blue paint needed :)
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Bring on WW1!!!!!! SE-5a forever!!!!!!!
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Put another scratch in the "YEAH" column for me. I'd be all over a WWI arena. Jets? Bah. Real fighters have props. :devil
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Me. :aok
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I'd fly it... Albatros III... ahhh :pray
There is even an obvious choice for a skin... right column, third from bottom. Just some personal blue paint needed :)
Same here. Albatros D.III
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I remember how much fun it was to fly Simguild's "Flying Circus" when it first came out back around 1996 or 1997. It was free, looked good at the time, played well, and was a heck of a lot of fun. Haven't seen anything comparable since, and it has been ten years since Simguild went belly up.
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Ah yes, Give me a DH2, and bring on the Eindeckers....
DEATH to the Fokker Scourge!!! :aok
RC
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Gets my vote.
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Look on the front page...
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
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I would love it if HTC built a WW1 arena!
I bought Rise of Aces recently, hoping for a good WW1 sim... Unfortunately, while the game is very pretty to look at, the setup and game play is very ugly. In my opinion. Wish I could get my $40 back.
C'mon Hitech, you could start with maybe 4 aircraft... Use your existing physics and terrain systems... Just another arena... It would be fun! I wouldn't even mind if you bumped the sub rate to 19.95!
As I mentioned in another thread, they could always build a WW1 plane for an Evil Con Mission and conveniently forget to disable it later :D
C'mon, there must have been SOME country that had an old clunker flying around during WW2?
hmmm :)
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I in!!!
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Sopwith camel for the win cant wait.
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Me and my dog want to fly in bi-planes
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:xIN :cheers:
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Yes! oh yes!! Im in! :aok :D
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Albatross and SE5's please! But yes, I'm in.
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Albatros D.II :pray
But IN!
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:headscratch: Not interested.
Rather see the expansion of WWII aircraft needed for events especially Japanese and Russian.
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Don't you wanna get rid of us mindless furballers so the capture and pork weenies can have their fun in the WWII arenas?
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Really, oh golly G I never thought of that.
HiTech
Perhaps you could even make a "Super" Fokker............... :neener:
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Folks, grow the fugg up with this puerile "in" baloney. The topic is recent enough and solidly
related to the other topic where players have now come out of the closet to whine about HTC
spending time on WWI aircraft - or anything else at all.
One thing HTC is proof of (and twice to boot) is if you don't like the direction or where the
efforts of a developer are going then you're more than welcome to go and create what you
want on all your own!
Anyway. IMO AH is stagnant. It's game-play has not fundamentally changed in 10 years
and even then it was old. AH today could essentially be called AW-IV or V. Sure there have
been tweaks and aircraft additions but it's still the same. It's a fantasy world used by
customers "flying" computer modeled WWII aircraft in a non-WWII environment. Unfortunately
the attempt at departing from this 20 yr old recipe was CT and it never got past the gestation
phase.
But as this and other topics show a WWI era air-combat would be welcomed by many of the
current player base and if you looked outside the box (beyond AH) you'd see there's a whole
chitload of other online air-combat players out there. Lots more than play here. (I'd bet Korean
era aircombat would enjoy a strong following too)
IMO as long as the WWI genre is developed and not just left to rot with 4 aircraft to use it
should do well. But if it's doesn;t grow and develop then the use of the WWI arena and it's
aircraft will wane and would soon be underpopulated like the AvA arena. Low numbers of
players would occasionally go their on a lark to goof off for an hour or so just like in AW
but that's about it.
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stay away from my camel
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Folks, grow the fugg up with this puerile "in" baloney. The topic is recent enough and solidly
related to the other topic where players have now come out of the closet to whine about HTC
spending time on WWII aircraft - or anything else at all.
One thing HTC is proof of (and twice to boot) is if you don't like the direction or where the
efforts of a developer are going then you're more than welcome to go and create what you
want on your own!
Except, all of these things have been done before. This is nothing new, only new to you. Air Warrior had a WW1 and Korean War arena, along with a Full Realism arena to augment their relaxed realism hole. Both the WW1 and Korean War arenas were less filled than MW currently is.... and this was in a community of mostly all-adult, dedicated ACM junkies. It will be a hit for about two months..... then everyone will migrate back to the superfurball. You'll soon understand, when you fly it, that WW1 was all turnfight, and that just favors the plane that turns better (or the guy who pulls harder). It gets pretty boring after a few sorties, IMO.
I don't see the need, personally, to realize whoever's pipe dream the WW1 arena is. Probably some need a change, I understand that. Maybe it just makes testing the new damage model easier. But again, if it makes some people happy or bring more subscriptions in, more power to HT.
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I am gonna try it out, who knows I may like it. It however does not capture the same place in my imagination as the WW II era.
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It's not new to me in the least. If you're recalling AW then you're conveniently forgetting how
lame the AW WWI and Korea offerings were. Reread my post as I did elaborate on that. AW
did not further develop or add to their token WWI/Korea offerings. IMO that is why it died. It
got boring flying the same two planes in a la-la environment.
Unlike AH ten years ago AW did not have the HTC view system, any kind of ballistics or
ordinance, a believable flight model, more than a rudimentary damage model nor any kind
of sun or clouds.
Given what HTC has developed for online air combat I am one who believes their go at a
WWI or Korean era game/sim could work. If they don't develop it further then it will surely
suffer the same fate as WWI did in AW. Againa, because it'll be boring and then become
an unused arena.
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Maybe Hitech just wants to do it...
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Don't you wanna get rid of us mindless furballers so the capture and pork weenies can have their fun in the WWII arenas?
I'm here for the WWII set. I have no interest in WWI. I just see this as a leak in the ship.
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I am intersted in the entire history of combat aviation. I see this as another rung on the ladder to the promised land. 100 years of air combat history. Although HTC might need to hire another head to get there before Oct 2014 :airplane: :D
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I am intersted in the entire history of combat aviation. I see this as another rung on the ladder to the promised land. 100 years of air combat history. Although HTC might need to hire another head to get there before Oct 2014 :airplane: :D
:rock Right on Yeager, it's an alternative.
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I'm here for the WWII set. I have no interest in WWI. I just see this as a leak in the ship.
[2] :aok
Mutley :salute
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I'm all for a WW1 AH Sim as long as its done well. WB's WW1 Sim, Dawn of Aces wasn't very good. One of the best aircraft of WW1, the Fokker D7 was a dog in there. There is always a lot of focus on the Fokker Dr1 and the Camel but in reality they were short lived designs. Designs that held the line until faster better types like the D7 and other Allied became available.
The best WW1 Sim out now is the mod for Combat flight simulator 3: Over Flanders Fields. Aircraft fly like biplanes should. Real weather. Excellent graphics. If AH's WW1 is close to OFF then it will be a good expansion. One of the problems with the AW WW1 game was that it was about the same as DOA, couple of decent planes, no real strategy other than fly and shoot. Dated graphics. WW1 and Korea were both under developed in AW. One map, few people. There is a definite void of WW1 flying games. Both MMO's and standalone. A well designed expansion of 4 aircraft would be a excellent use of resources. If not well designed it will be a waste of time. :airplane:
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I'm all for a WW1 AH Sim as long as its done well. WB's WW1 Sim, Dawn of Aces wasn't very good.
The original version (2 / circa 98?-2001) was very good. unless our talking about the WB3 (current version , 2002?+). If you did not get a chance to fly the old version, you missed out on a lot of fun , and a very nicely done sim for the time. If the latter, I agree. The current version is poo, this is a common opinion amongst old timers. If developed it could be something, but there is zero development in the core game itself anymore simply because they do not have any personnel that understands it employed there.
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I loved the old version of DoA, just like I loved WB before WBIII. The 'improvements' ruined both. Old DoA was hours and hours of furballin' fun, even if it didn't have any Nieuports and its Albatros and D.VII were horribly undermodelled. Was still la blast.
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The original version (2 / circa 98?-2001) was very good. unless our talking about the WB3 (current version , 2002?+). If you did not get a chance to fly the old version, you missed out on a lot of fun , and a very nicely done sim for the time. If the latter, I agree. The current version is poo, this is a common opinion amongst old timers. If developed it could be something, but there is zero development in the core game itself anymore simply because they do not have any personnel that understands it employed there.
I flew the first version and the last version. Left WB about 2 years ago. The competitive planes were the Dr1 and the Camel. The D7 was modeled badly. Speed wasn't right, maneuvering wise it was a brick, very similar to the D3 which probably flew the way it was supposed to. Spad was better but not quite right either. I heard that they used the WW2 engine to model the WW1 aircraft and some of them just didn't transfer over that well. But that was hearsay, so it may have had nothing to do with it. Two years ago when I left, a peak night might have 50-60 people on all their servers, maybe 10 people in DOA on a busy night. And half of them would be chasing drones or capturing bases for points.
My memory of the early version was that it was better than AW but not as good as Red Baron, which was online at the time. The actual modeling was decent for the time. A lot of the fun factor is who and how many people are playing.
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I will be glad to give it a try. I 'm ready to fly down and shoot up some trenchs, shoot down some observersation craft, qualify for my Blue Max. Oh the possibilities. I wonder what the HOers will be like in there?
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I will be glad to give it a try. I 'm ready to fly down and shoot up some trenchs, shoot down some observersation craft, qualify for my Blue Max. Oh the possibilities. I wonder what the HOers will be like in there?
If remember my DoA experince correctly HOs aren't as frustrating. The planes are so slow that a HO takes a long time to complete, thus making them easier to avoid before any real damage can be done.
BTW the early versions of DoA where great, I'm sure this will be too. :aok
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Seems like no Alb III in the first wave :( Gotta go for Fokker D7 then... sooorry :) It should be quite über :rock
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ALBATROSS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_u7VGiMO0U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_u7VGiMO0U)
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ALBATROSS!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_u7VGiMO0U (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z_u7VGiMO0U)
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The competitive planes were the Dr1 and the Camel. The D7 was modeled badly. Speed wasn't right, maneuvering wise it was a brick, very similar to the D3 which probably flew the way it was supposed to. Spad was better but not quite right either.
You should have been flying an SE5a :)
I will re-up AH for this.
Vlas++
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The skins! The skins!
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Really, oh golly G I never thought of that.
HiTech
Excellent response :rofl
WWI air combat always interested me, but there is so little I know about said subject.. I can not wait :)
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Well I didn't get on in time to get up close to start of thread so probably nobody will read this but for myself, I have no interest in WWI planes in any shape fashion or form. I like what Dale is doing with this game and wouldn't fly the other areana. This game has all I am interested in. I have several games I bought right after I started with this game, and each one got played about 3 times before being put in a box in the closet or thrown in the trash, and that applies to both WWI and the Korean war games. I am not interested in paying more for something I won't use.
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one question not trying to hijack topic but is WWI arena gonna put on any extra costs?
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Something I was wondering about? The Machineguns on the WWI planes had a tendancy to move around quite a bit in their mounts when fired, giving a splattering effect to gunfire... Will this be factored in the modeling?
Or will they be a hokey laserbeam accurate deal?
RC
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skuzzy already said it was not going to cost any more!! Do you guys read?
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Well I didn't get on in time to get up close to start of thread so probably nobody will read this but for myself, I have no interest in WWI planes in any shape fashion or form. I like what Dale is doing with this game and wouldn't fly the other areana. This game has all I am interested in. I have several games I bought right after I started with this game, and each one got played about 3 times before being put in a box in the closet or thrown in the trash, and that applies to both WWI and the Korean war games. I am not interested in paying more for something I won't use.
If the price doesn't change are you really that put out?
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skuzzy already said it was not going to cost any more!! Do you guys read?
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yes.... :uhoh :bolt:
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its a nice idea, but wouldnt the time be better spent improving the WWII arena first? before going on another tangent? theres tons of aircraft and gv need to be worked on and added.
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its a nice idea, but wouldnt the time be better spent improving the WWII arena first? before going on another tangent? theres tons of aircraft and gv need to be worked on and added.
This is just a "red herring" for don't do it. If we WWI types have to wait for what you suggest I will be long gone like the real canvas crates (meaning dead not quitting AH). I bet if HTC added 2.50 a month for use of this new arena and all you solid WWII guys opted out you would soon be crying that you couldn't get in to the WWI arena.
The facts are that if this new arena draws a bunch of former AH guys back plus brings in some new blood it will INCREASE HTC's ability to add content to all arena's :rock
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This is just a "red herring" for don't do it. If we WWI types have to wait for what you suggest I will be long gone like the real canvas crates (meaning dead not quitting AH). I bet if HTC added 2.50 a month for use of this new arena and all you solid WWII guys opted out you would soon be crying that you couldn't get in to the WWI arena.
The facts are that if this new arena draws a bunch of former AH guys back plus brings in some new blood it will INCREASE HTC's ability to add content to all arena's :rock
On the other hand if WWII (the era that brought all of us here to AH) goes stagnant... you better hope WWI draws way more than just the few here "interested".
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Ruh roh.
Here comes the needless fear mongering.
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Ruh roh.
Here comes the needless fear mongering.
You have nothing to fear.... McDonalds is almost always hiring. :P
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SLASH// I am not interested in WWI at any cost. I like the WWII planes we have. I have tried other era games after I found aces high 1 and just did not enjoy them the way I do aces high period. It is just not my thing. I even tried world war on line didn't like it either, so I just stay with aces high and my poker stars, to each his own.
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SLASH// I am not interested in WWI at any cost. I like the WWII planes we have. I have tried other era games after I found aces high 1 and just did not enjoy them the way I do aces high period. It is just not my thing. I even tried world war on line didn't like it either, so I just stay with aces high and my poker stars, to each his own.
Thats the cool thing Chief, you can just ignore the WWI arena, and log into the LW arenas as usual without bothering. Nice to have choices eh?
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Thats the cool thing Chief, you can just ignore the WWI arena, and log into the LW arenas as usual without bothering. Nice to have choices eh?
As long as it doesn't kill by stagnation what we are here for... WWII.
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As long as it doesn't kill by stagnation what we are here for... WWII.
Was not talking to you as I try to ignore your over abundantly repetitive posts.
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Is kitty hawk going to be a perk plane ?
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Was not talking to you as I try to ignore your over abundantly repetitive posts.
No problem. We all know ignorance is bliss.
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lol you mean the wright flyer??
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No problem. We all know ignorance is bliss.
I'll take your word ,You do have experience in this , thats obvious.
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I don't see how a WWI arena will hurt or even affect the MAs. HTC has said they are using it to test the new DM. That's a + for WWII. It gives those intersted another choice on where and what to fly, it oesnt take away any options for WWII. No ground war, WWII gets to keep that (ok not a + lol) I don't see a problem, maybe WWII will not get as many new planes for awhile but how many are there already? I know there's several holes in plane set for special events but really the holes have been there I don't see them filling up any sooner without the WWI arena. Ice your taints fellas, we re not goin to lose anything
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I remember the wire frame Red baron game from years ago, it was fun. I am unable tofind any "list of equipment " for the WW1 arena. Does anyone know what else will be included? Are parachutes ruled out? Is it 2 air bases with trench inbetween?? Are the GV's horse drawn??? Are bombers Zepplins?? could be fun eh??
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There will be four(I think someone said?) bases and four fighters (Fokker DR I, Fokker D VII, Sopwith Camel, and Bristol F2.B).
According to the front page this will be a dogfight arena, and at least right now there are no GV's or bombers announced.
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I'll take your word ,You do have experience in this , thats obvious.
:rofl proof is in the pudding. No idea what your problem is..... ahh never mind I already spelled it out.
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Thats the cool thing Chief, you can just ignore the WWI arena, and log into the LW arenas as usual without bothering. Nice to have choices eh?
That is........unless the arena levels aren't correct. Can't get into LW1 or LW2 because of numbers........BUT WAIT!! you now have the option of going to WWI arena. Whether you like it OR NOT!
Don't have one problem with bringing in WWI arena. I WILL however, if I'm FORCED to fly WWI because the numbers dictate it. Don't know if that's where it will lead to.........just saying.
<S>
Rokit
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That is........unless the arena levels aren't correct. Can't get into LW1 or LW2 because of numbers........BUT WAIT!! you now have the option of going to WWI arena. Whether you like it OR NOT!
Don't have one problem with bringing in WWI arena. I WILL however, if I'm FORCED to fly WWI because the numbers dictate it. Don't know if that's where it will lead to.........just saying.
<S>
Rokit
????????? never seen a time when you couldn't get into one or the other LW arena's. I have seen times when I couldn't get into the LW arena of my choice (squad flying in one that is full) but thats it
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That is........unless the arena levels aren't correct. Can't get into LW1 or LW2 because of numbers........BUT WAIT!! you now have the option of going to WWI arena. Whether you like it OR NOT!
Don't have one problem with bringing in WWI arena. I WILL however, if I'm FORCED to fly WWI because the numbers dictate it. Don't know if that's where it will lead to.........just saying.
<S>
Rokit
Only the two Late War Arenas are tied together with dynamic caps- you'll always be able to get into one or the other.
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Only the two Late War Arenas are tied together with dynamic caps- you'll always be able to get into one or the other.
Here's hoping. No bad mouthing, no trolling. What I see is so many years ago......another company spreading it's wings in effort to fulfill everyone's hopes, and needs, by engaging several areas of winged combat to include, WWII, WWI, and Korea........and then failing completey and going away........"Air Warriers". Just don't want to see my beloved HTC to travel the same route.
Here's hoping HTC's WWI goes well.
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Rokit
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Here's hoping. No bad mouthing, no trolling. What I see is so many years ago......another company spreading it's wings in effort to fulfill everyone's hopes, and needs, by engaging several areas of winged combat to include, WWII, WWI, and Korea........and then failing completey and going away........"Air Warriers". Just don't want to see my beloved HTC to travel the same route.
Here's hoping HTC's WWI goes well.
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Rokit
Rokit,
The biggest difference here is that Kesmai was corporate controlled and airplanes were mandated by management that wasn't connected to the product. HTC is controlled by HTC and will do what they think best for their customers.
SB
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I don't recall Kesmai being corporate controlled until it went to AOL. but if I remember correctly the WWI and Korean arena's were always there in AW.
It doesn't matter really because that sim was so long ago and computers and software have come so far that comparisons to it are really moot.
Shuffler cited CT when I said HTC tries to do it right, I think he proved my point. HTC worked on that project hard and long and in the end decided it wasn't for prime time and had the nads to tell the community that it didn't work, it doesn't get any better than that from a game company as far as being up front with their customers is concerned.
WWI has been around along time as a computer game I doubt there are very many of us my age who didn't play RB and it was my first online game as well on TSN, so it is not that it doesn't have followers it does and if they come here to play and it increases revenue it is good for all of us.
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They had been owned by News Corp for many years before AOL came around.
SB
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Interesting SB, I guess I never knew that
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As for CT Box, my point there is that for about a year everything went stagnant.
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As for CT Box, my point there is that for about a year everything went stagnant.
Well the game survived quite well during that period and if they spend a year on just WWI, I think the base game would do just fine. I don't think they will dedicate a year to WWI as I think Hitech or Pyro said they have most of it "in the can", Waffle may get some overtime doing his "magic" on the 3d models and the new DM will get some attention for sure but then again the DM is for all aspects of AHII
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Well the game survived quite well during that period and if they spend a year on just WWI, I think the base game would do just fine. I don't think they will dedicate a year to WWI as I think Hitech or Pyro said they have most of it "in the can", Waffle may get some overtime doing his "magic" on the 3d models and the new DM will get some attention for sure but then again the DM is for all aspects of AHII
I don't think WWI is going to be a big project. From what we have heard/read it looks to be a small arena with a couple of fields no more that 5 miles apart. It will start with a base of 4 planes maybe adding a few more down the road should the arena become popular. Also it will be used as a test bed for other improvements to the game... first is the new damage model. This is a great idea, as we all know should HTC add the new damage model directly to the mains the out cries they will hear if it is not "perfect" shall be deafening :D
I doubt there will be much in this new arena seeing it looks like its to be kept small so terrains will not be a big deal. I doubt bombers nor GV's will be added as it seems like it to be a WWI furball arena much like all those "old guys" remember that type of fighting to be. To many people are reading too much into this. Most of the work is already done, thats why even HTC said we will have it soon.
Relax !
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I don't think WWI is going to be a big project. From what we have heard/read it looks to be a small arena with a couple of fields no more that 5 miles apart. It will start with a base of 4 planes maybe adding a few more down the road should the arena become popular. Also it will be used as a test bed for other improvements to the game... first is the new damage model. This is a great idea, as we all know should HTC add the new damage model directly to the mains the out cries they will hear if it is not "perfect" shall be deafening :D
I doubt there will be much in this new arena seeing it looks like its to be kept small so terrains will not be a big deal. I doubt bombers nor GV's will be added as it seems like it to be a WWI furball arena much like all those "old guys" remember that type of fighting to be. To many people are reading too much into this. Most of the work is already done, thats why even HTC said we will have it soon.
Relax !
Don't you have homework you should be doing? :P
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I want to fly WW1 Aircraft, and see this new damage model.
Bring it on HT, renewal on the way
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Hey Pongo. My sentiments too. Good to see you again.
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Don't you have homework you should be doing? :P
homework? I am almost as old as you !!
now if you meant HOUSEwork.... well yes I do, and I MUST get it done before the wife gets home :bolt:
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homework? I am almost as old as you !!
now if you meant HOUSEwork.... well yes I do, and I MUST get it done before the wife gets home :bolt:
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Good to know you're still in-'n'-kicking, Mano, ya ol' Pigstomper. :salute
"You'll soon understand, when you fly it, that WW1 was all turnfight." No it wasn't, it was 'boom-and-zoom' when flying a SE5a and attacking a Triplane, 'turn-figure-of-eight' when spotting for the artillery, and 'turn-one-behind-the-other' when flying a defensive circle in a flight of FE2s when the Albatri came hunting. Or 'run-like-hell' when acting as a decoy for your fighter friends high above and succeeding in attracting an over-eager would-be 'ace' to a fiery end. Or 'dive-fire-twist away' when trench-strafing.
The first online combat flight sim I ever flew was Dawn of Aces. Great fun with its artillery spotters and bombers to provide realistic targets for the fighters. True, the main activity was the endless furball between the two nearest opposing airfields, but at least the main elements of Great War flying were in there (even the over-modelled, framerate-slowing Zeppelin) - until the Totalled Sims bean-counters porked it into the 'Flyboys' travesty. The artillery wouldn't be hard to model; just adapt the naval guns already supplied in AH. Then make the big guns dependent on photos (screenshots) to choose their targets and W/T clock-code messages from the two-seaters to direct their fire. The war will be won by airfield capture the same as in the present MA (ten troops riding in a Crossley tender gallop into a field silenced by artillery, bombing and strafing), so there's the strategic reason for fighting and dying taken care of.
If all the AH WW1 sim is going to be is a version of the Duelling Arena with biplanes, it's bound to fail - but if it reproduces all the variety of real Great War flying, it'll be good. If HT and the gang produce a good WW1 flight sim that provides more than just a duelling arena for fighter-jockeys, I'll be happy to pay for it and fly in it. Maybe see you up there over the Front again, Mano, eh?
Now where's my goggles and silk scarf . . .
Cheers!
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Simba! Very long time indeed. Glad to see you are still out there <S>
I'll bet there are allot of ol' doa players in AH, but with new handles.
If it is a success for HTC....I'm sure we will see other new planes down the line.
I believe there is a market for WWI A/C ( I never expected this thread to go so long). :airplane:
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Mano
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Simba! Vlas here. I will certainly check out WWI AH. See you up there.
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No thanks, ww1 does nothing for me.
Fix the film viewer! :-)
~kc
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No thanks, ww1 does nothing for me.
Fix the film viewer! :-)
~kc
We got your message the first time you posted it :huh :bolt:
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Probably still is not fixed. Plane set not filled either.
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I'm all FOR a WWI arena,it'd stop picktards dead in their tracks and we could actually have some kick butt turnfights
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Well guys I think of it like this.
DoA is still there, Red Baron is still there and Flying Corps Lan line is still there. But their support is loooooong gone. People make servers and play to this day.
BUT when we get the WW1 Arena and add lots of planes. Slowly all those players will defect to AH2. More money for HT and the gang and consequently MORE CONTENT FOR US.
So bring in WW1 and build it up into a real ww1 sim. And the subscriptions will go up, then after they go up we can finish the WW2 plane set and then move to korea or maybe even AH3. Bigger and Better.
So I have enormous hopes for this one.
Also, We should have seperate squads in there.
I am announcing the intended formation of 266 RFC. Im sure the brits will know that unit :)
So grab youre camels AND CHOCKS AWAY
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I'm all FOR a WWI arena,it'd stop picktards dead in their tracks
I think you may be in for a nasty surprise.. there was a lot of picking in WWI and there were planes that could do that quite effective. ;)
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I think you may be in for a nasty surprise.. there was a lot of picking in WWI and there were planes that could do that quite effective. ;)
Bristol = P38, Big bulky firepower, can fight when it needs to.
Fokker DR1= Zeke, turns like hell but slow.
Camel = Spitfire, Turns like hell and quick to boot a nice allrounder
DVII = P51, Fast alright turner ideal for BnZ at slow speed.
Just so some of you get their roles
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266 Squadron? Ah yes, my old chum Bigglesworth's unit, a cracking bunch of fellows indeed. All Camel-riders though, not Harry Taters like No.6 Squadron RFC/RAF, formed at Farnborough in 1914 and never disbanded until a year or so ago when they handed in their Jaguars and it turned out the new Eurofighter Typhoons weren't ready. They are now . . .
(looks fondly at 'Hawk and Snake' badge awarded when 'Shiny Six' was flying Bristol F2Bs, the RAF's policemen in 1920s Iraq)
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Great, just great.....now Krupnski has more German aircraft to fly!
V/r
Changeup
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can't wait for the fun to begin :joystick:
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can't waot for the fun to begin :joystick:
Been having fun here.
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Been having fun here.
yeah me too, but one can never have enough fun :D :O
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yeah me too, but one can never have enough fun :D :O
Psst don't say that in front of Boxgirl :P
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Psst don't say that in front of Boxgirl :P
He's not the same Boxboy you are thinking of shuffler, just so you know.
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He's not the same Boxboy you are thinking of shuffler, just so you know.
:salute
OMG hope Boxgirl does not get them confused!
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Would be nice for arena to have separate squads.
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biplanes..... :yay:
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Psst don't say that in front of Boxgirl :P
LOL not same guy I took that handle and then found out someone had it (almost like it Boxboy28 or something like that) so I got my old original handle back for ingame (BigJim) but for some reason I was unable to change it here in the bbs.
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So is your girl just called cubical or something? :D
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So is your girl just called cubical or something? :D
How many times have I told you to stop smoking that stuff :banana: