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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Waffle on September 03, 2009, 06:51:47 PM
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STARTS TONIGHT!!!!!!!!!!
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Thank God! I have a reason to watch television again!
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As long as I don't have to hear about how great Tim Tebow is. :rolleyes:
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Or hear anything about the GAYtors. ROLL TIDE!!!
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BOOMER SOONER!!!
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WOOP!
:uhoh
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Well first off, just because the Gators are the favorite and that they are going to roll no need to hate them.
There really is no team that is going to give the Gators a challenge in the SEC.
Personally Im seeing a Florida vs Texas BCS game.
And yes, Im a Gators fan. They are returning almost all their starters and every starter on defense is back. Im just getting tired of the Tebow haters. Honestly, you dont see any Bradford or McCoy haters. McCoy and Tebow didnt have the #1 Oline in the NCAA and Bradford doesnt get any criticism for that? Tebow threw the fewest INTs of the 3 and he gets criticized for having a bad arm and mechanics yet he had the highest completion percentage of the 3 in the deep ball and the fewest INTs thrown in the deep ball.
USC will choke, Alabama wont compete with Florida, LSU will probably be facing Florida in the SEC championship, Ohio State will be overrated as usual, Penn State will choke in the end, South Florida will upset and win the Big East, VT will win the ACC, and your going hear the whining in the Big 12 about the controversy about who will go to the BCS between Oklahoma and Texas. Going end up seeing Texas and Florida in the BCS with Oklahoma whining about not getting in and the usual people whining over the BCS system. Your going see the same 3 QBs in the Heisman race and they will probably give it to McCoy just so all 3 of them had it even though Tebow will probably have the better season because of the schedule. Florida will win and then the controversy begins about the NFL draft and all you will see on Sportscenter is how prepared McCoy and Bradford are and Tebow cant be a QB in the NFL.
Im predicting the season already. :D
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Football? How can it be called Football when they use their hands!
It is called Rugby here,they do not use armour here and don't stop the game every 10 minutes for advertisments.
Liverpool play football and so do Manchester city .
Manchester United don't play football they make lots of money.
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hit the nail on the coffin O line, that watermelon make and breaks rookie QBs in the NFL. Oklies lost O men.
little worried about bret farves O line. :uhoh hes good AFC D line would kill.
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GO GREEN!!! MSU MSU MSU MSU MSU MSU
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I enjoyed the game last night between South Carolina and NC State. Turned out to be just what a first game in college is. A few mistakes and miscues on both teams cost them opportunities to do better but they are both decent teams. SC will be a tough team for all in the SEC East but Florida and NC State should create some problems...if they can get their secondary playing better...in the ACC.
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I gotta root for A&M since my money and Daughter go there this year. :aok
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(http://www.pogbird.com/X45/gator_helment.jpg)
nuff said
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Did you see that Oregon and Boise State Game. It is nice to see a team in a non-power house conference pounding on a power house conference team.
Oh yea, GO BUCKEYES
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and your going hear the whining in the Big 12 about the controversy about who will go to the BCS between Oklahoma and Texas. Going end up seeing Texas and Florida in the BCS with Oklahoma whining about not getting in and the usual people whining over the BCS system.
No matter who wins or loses whether its in the Big 12 or not, your always going to hear about how someone gets screwed. :huh
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No matter who wins or loses whether its in the Big 12 or not, your always going to hear about how someone gets screwed. :huh
+1
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No matter who wins or loses whether its in the Big 12 or not, your always going to hear about how someone gets screwed. :huh
You hit the nail on the head my friend....and btw.....
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Just had to throw that out there.
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Lagarrete blount koed boise states linebacker
Hell yea football is back
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Lagarrete blount cheapshots boise states defensive end after being held to minus 5 yards on 8 carries and talking smack all week
Hell yea football is back
Fixed it for ya! :aok
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Cheapshot? Please, it was clear that the boise player said something to him and after a loss I can't blame him but saying something to fans and coaches is different
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Blount made statements about Oregon getting even....remarks were made by the commentators during the game.
It's a cheapshot IMO because Haut had already turned away and was being confronted by his coach.
Had Blount stepped in front of Haut and squared up with him, then knocked him down, my opinion would be much different. Haut screwed up by taking his helmet off in the first place.......my coaches let us know that taunting and running your mouth wasn't tolerated, but in cases where there was obvious hard feelings after a game, common sense told us to NEVER take those helmets off til we were in the locker room or no players from the opposing team were left on the field.
Regardless......Blount made statements about Oregon getting even for last season's loss and a butt whooping.......when it mattered, during the game, he didn't deliver, nor did his teammates.
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Both players were wrong but imo the boise player gets the consequence of what he said
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LOL.......perhaps........I don't suppose you know what he said, do you?
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Lol no comment
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(http://pickandpop.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/usc.jpg)
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ack-ack
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http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4445891
I stand corrected......I'm no lip reader, but it looks to me like Hout was saying "a** whipping(whooping)", so yeah, he messed up by saying that.
Does that excuse Blount for throwing a punch? Not in my book. I agree with BSU's coach, there was no need to say anything to Blount the game had been played and it should have been over. If Hout wanted to say something to Blount, he shoulda been smart enough to keep his headgear on....lol.
Looks to me like both players have a lot of growing up to do........do your talking on the field with your playing, not before the game or afterwards.
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OU sucks but A&M swallows.
Hookem Horns
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lol My Daughter has always liked UT. The problem is they only have 1 semi of meteorology. At A&M she can work all the way to a PHD in meteorology. A&M is one of the top 3 universities in the country for meteorology.
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Born and raised in Ohio... been an OSU fan since Day One. :D
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Born and raised in Ohio... been an OSU fan since Day One. :D
I'm sorry but at least you have the courage to admit it :lol
ack-ack
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Looks like others felt strongly about it, too. College football isn't the UFC or MMA.......
http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/football/news;_ylt=AqShe38oIX3ZEnt3ihYcOkYcvrYF?slug=txt25oregonblount&prov=st&type=lgns
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HOOK EM !
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CJ Spiller are own all ur endzonez!!!!!!1!!1
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CJ Spiller are own all ur endzonez!!!!!!1!!1
Him and James Davis didnt do anything last year. :P
They had a very disappointing season in my opinion and the 2 of them should have been 2 of the leading rushers in the NCAA. Hopefully Spiller will have a better season.
I personally like Clemson's Dline especially Ricky Sapp.
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GO GREEN!!! MSU MSU MSU MSU MSU MSU
No chance! :D
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I'm sorry but at least you have the courage to admit it :lol
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Thats just it, we buckeyes don't run and hind. We face it with pride
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Thats just it, we buckeyes don't run and hind. We face it with pride
Oh, I'm pretty sure you guys wanted to hide after the beating you received at the hands of USC. :D
ack-ack
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Shuffler - you should go to the A&M / UT game at Kyle Field...it's a hoot - great stadium to see a game.
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Will probably be there :)
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Him and James Davis didnt do anything last year. :P
They had a very disappointing season in my opinion and the 2 of them should have been 2 of the leading rushers in the NCAA. Hopefully Spiller will have a better season.
I personally like Clemson's Dline especially Ricky Sapp.
Thankfully, we fired... ahem... fixed that problem. :)
Yeh, last year was a disappointment, but at least we beat Spurrier and that worthless embarassment to the state of SC crowd of losers from Columbia!
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Oh, I'm pretty sure you guys wanted to hide after the beating you received at the hands of USC. :D
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Nope, we expected that lost. I am sure OSU will have 3-4 games that they will loose
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All I have to say is Go HAWKEYES!!
(http://www.mchenrycountysports.com/_internal/cimg!0/binarifafjwr3hfypl8q7j4qahc64zr)
By the way that is my cousin Bryan Bulaga #79
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Oh, I'm pretty sure you guys wanted to hide after the beating you received at the hands of USC. :D
ack-ack
We had already expected the loss. Also, most of us Buckeye fans werent too pleased with the spot in the NC last year. We just werent ready for it. I myself wouldve preferred a Rose Bowl or Fiesta Bowl spot.
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WOW, a whole season Blount is out with a suspension. A bit to hard of a punishment.
Personally, they should suspend him for half of the season, both Blount and Hout sit side by side and make a public appoligy to each other for there stupid action.
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The myth is true...ducks do crash on the blue.
No pics, just music.
http://images.radcity.net/6729/3906275.mp3
So starts the march to the BCS...
No name players...
From a small school & city...
And a state few High school kids can find on the map...
Just the way we like it out here....
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Cavalry
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with all that blue, do you think is is hard to see who has the football?
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Games started earlier, not many upsets in the works...
except
Northern Iowa 13 Iowa 10
:O
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Games started earlier, not many upsets in the works...
except
Northern Iowa 13 Iowa 10
:O
Yeah please dont have to remind me of this. With Hampton out for the year this is not looking good for Iowa. They have the O-line they just need a running back to hit the hole.
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17-16 Iowa 7 seconds left Northern Iowa ball on the 23 :O
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WOW, a whole season Blount is out with a suspension. A bit to hard of a punishment.
Personally, they should suspend him for half of the season, both Blount and Hout sit side by side and make a public appoligy to each other for there stupid action.
I disagree. There is a lot of trash talking that goes on before, during and after the game. Its an unfortunate part of the game, but it is part of the game (especially when one person has been giving the other team bulletin-board motivational material for the locker room for a week or so leading up to the game by running off at the mouth.
Throwing a punch after the game at a guy who has removed his helmet? Totally inexcusable, NOT part of the game, and IMHO the BEST way the powers that be can send a message that this type of behavior WILL NOT be accepted is to come down like a load of bricks. Just as they did.
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WOW, a whole season Blount is out with a suspension. A bit to hard of a punishment.
Personally, they should suspend him for half of the season, both Blount and Hout sit side by side and make a public appoligy to each other for there stupid action.
I don't think he would've been suspended if he didn't hit one of his own players, then get into it with the fans.
and Iowa slips away. :lol
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Reaper90, your right. football players are train to hit hard, be aggressive and contently get into fight with each other. Some just forget where it can only be used.
As far as what happen to Blount, was up to the coach on what punishment is best. If it was, oh i don't know, Texas, that did that. I wouldn't pass it the Mack will only suspended his player for one or two games.
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If only we had a college our football team could be proud of! :lol
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Nebraska game today!!! w000t!!!!! Lets hope Pellini has some balls unlike whats his face.
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lol My Daughter has always liked UT. The problem is they only have 1 semi of meteorology. At A&M she can work all the way to a PHD in meteorology. A&M is one of the top 3 universities in the country for meteorology.
I almost went to Colorado State to Major in Meteorology back in the Fall of 1991. A&M is a good one too for that Major and I wish her the best.
Oh ya btw. GO VOLS!!!!!!!
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Shuffler - you should go to the A&M / UT game at Kyle Field...it's a hoot - great stadium to see a game.
went to the game in austin a couple of years ago. Aggies won, game wasnt much on excitement, but just being there was something. I grew up an Aggie Fan, Grandad was Aggie, Grandma was Teasipper, Dads a UT fan Step mom is an Aggie. Thanksgivings were fun. But my little brother ended up going to UT so I kind of switched my allegience. I was an 11 year freshman at a local community college (redshirt? ;) ) so I can jump bandwagons at will.
:noid
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Throwing a punch after the game at a guy who has removed his helmet? Totally inexcusable, NOT part of the game, and IMHO the BEST way the powers that be can send a message that this type of behavior WILL NOT be accepted is to come down like a load of bricks. Just as they did.
I agree, unfortunately, the lesson will be lost on some. And it will happen again. Remember the Miami game a few seasons back?
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GEAUX!!!
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“There was some misinformation on ESPN and I think it’s imperative that I straighten it out. I am the head coach at LSU. I will be the head coach at LSU. I have no interest in talking to anybody else. I’ve got a championship game to play, and I am excited about the opportunity of my damn strong football team to play in it. That’s really all I’d like to say. It was unfortunate that I had to address my team with this information this morning. With that being done, I think we’d be ready to play. There will be no questions for me. I represent me in this issue. Please ask me after. I’m busy. Thank you very much. Have a great day.”
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GEAUX!!!
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Is that your way showing that LSU is the beast because of her big bobs?
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Is that your way showing that LSU is the beast because of her big bobs?
You mean LSU is the breast? :D
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:x :x :lol
Choklahoma Strikes again!!!!!!
wtg BYU!
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Not surprised once Bradford went out of the game. It could be a long season for the supposed big time OU team that was supposed to be a contender for the title in January. BUT the season still has a few more games to go.
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Thanks God.
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I wouldn't count them out yet, remember the season when the #1 team fell almost every week. Even South Florida was #1 once :eek:
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Thanks God.
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I'm not an OU fan, but I hope Bradford's injury isn't too serious. If it is, OU could be in a for a long season. Those two 1000 RB's are gonna have to step it up if he out for any length of time.
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It could have happen to any QB, even Tebow could get a unfortunate hit that will take him out for the season. :pray
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(http://pickandpop.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/usc.jpg)
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ack-ack
USC = University Supplying Cash
You guys still paying Reggie Bush?
Anyway,
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ASU 50 ISU 3
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USC = University Supplying Cash
You guys still paying Reggie Bush?
Anyway,
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ASU 50 ISU 3
you forgot about oj mayo.
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Nebraska : 49
Florida Atlantic : 3
:rofl
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Bradford will be back, OU will still be in thick of BCS hunt. I just like seeing OU lose, especially when I don't have to wait until their bowl game
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especially when I don't have to wait until their bowl game
:rofl :rofl
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At least A&M won - didn't see the games, but stats look decent. I was thinking there was a possibility of them loosing...lol
I think the Ags will win six games this year instead of 4 :)
I get my thrills knowing the 'horns gave up 20 points to University of Loiusiana at Monroe....at home even. Didn't cover the 41 point spread!
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I personally think Oklahoma, USC, and Ohio State were overrated going into the season.
All 3 of those teams lost a lot of key players. Oklahoma losing 4 of the 5 starting Oline, USC losing a lot on defense, and Ohio State lost a lot on defense as well. No way could those 3 teams go to the BCS this year.
I absolutely hate Bradford. To me he had the best Oline last year and could sit in the pocket for 6-10 seconds without scrambling and what not. Tebow and McCoy had to scramble and move around to avoid the sack and did not have as much time as Bradford to throw the ball. So this may sound bad but Im kinda glad Bradford got hurt. He actually had to take some hits.
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I much prefer the hyped up guys to be injury free and blow it when they finally play a defense from the SEC in a a bowl game.
See...Brady Quinn, Sam Bradford, Jason White, Troy Smith, Graham Harrell, Colt Brennen .... :D
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I much prefer the hyped up guys to be injury free and blow it when they finally play a defense from the SEC in a a bowl game.
See...Brady Quinn, Sam Bradford, Jason White, Troy Smith, Graham Harrell, Colt Brennen .... :D
Except Brian Johnson :D
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Except Brian Johnson :D
I wouldn't call him overhyped. :aok
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Not that anyone cares but...
William and mary beat virginia
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Great game on right now with Miami @ FSU and it is 24-23 Miami with 12:46 left in the 4th quarter. Both teams are playing lights out. Best FSU/Miami game in years. Plus it really shows that Bobby Bowden might truly be on his way out after this season.
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Thanks God.
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Not out yet. May be back in two to four weeks.
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Those two 1000 RB's are gonna have to step it up if he out for any length of time.
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even if they step it up they still have no chance at all unless that new O-Line gets their heads on straight.
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New Poll is out today
http://espn.go.com/college-football/rankings/_/poll/1
After beating that college football powerhouse Idaho State, I was sure my Sun Devils would be in the top 25! :lol
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Not that anyone cares but...
William and mary beat virginia
Virginia had it coming to her.
ack-ack
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As long as bradfords back in time for the Texas game. Want Owhoo at full strength so we can whoop em fair and square
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Pick em Week 2(trying to keep everything in one thread)
7:30 PM ET
Clemson
15 Georgia Tech
ESPN / 360
Preview
Saturday, 9/12
12:21 PM ET
Troy
1 Florida
ESPN 360
Preview
3:30 PM ET
2 Texas
Wyoming
Preview
8:00 PM ET
3 USC
8 Ohio State
ESPN / 360
Preview
7:00 PM ET
Florida International
4 Alabama
ESPN 360
Preview
3:30 PM ET
Houston
5 Oklahoma State
Preview
12:00 PM ET
Syracuse
7 Penn State
Big 10 Network
Preview
3:30 PM ET
9 Brigham Young
Tulane
ESPN2 / 360
Preview
Tickets
5:30 PM ET
Eastern Washington
10 California
Preview
7:00 PM ET
Vanderbilt
11 LSU
ESPNU
Preview
Tickets
8:00 PM ET
Miami (OH)
12 Boise State
ESPN 360
Preview
7:00 PM ET
Idaho State
13 Oklahoma
Preview
Tickets
Conversation
1:30 PM ET
Marshall
14 Virginia Tech
ESPN 360
Preview
3:30 PM ET
16 TCU
Virginia
ESPNU
Preview
10:30 PM ET
17 Utah
San Jose State
ESPNU
Preview
3:30 PM ET
18 Notre Dame
Michigan
ABC
Preview
12:00 PM ET
19 North Carolina
Connecticut
ESPNU
Preview
7:00 PM ET
South Carolina
21 Georgia
ESPN2 / 360
Preview
2:00 PM ET
Arkansas State
22 Nebraska
Preview
7:30 PM ET
Southeast Missouri State
23 Cincinnati
ESPN 360
Preview
7:30 PM ET
24 Kansas
UTEP
Preview
7:00 PM ET
Bowling Green
25 Missouri
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7:30 PM ET
Clemson
15 Georgia Tech
ESPN / 360
Preview
Georgia Tech 35-10
Saturday, 9/12
12:21 PM ET
Troy
1 Florida
ESPN 360
Preview
Might be close but Floride 55-12
3:30 PM ET
2 Texas
Wyoming
Preview
Texas 45-10
8:00 PM ET
3 USC
8 Ohio State
ESPN / 360
Preview
USC 28-21
7:00 PM ET
Florida International
4 Alabama
ESPN 360
Preview
Alabama 38-0
3:30 PM ET
Houston
5 Oklahoma State
Preview
Ok State 42-15
12:00 PM ET
Syracuse
7 Penn State
Big 10 Network
Preview
Penn State 30-7
3:30 PM ET
9 Brigham Young
Tulane
ESPN2 / 360
Preview
BYU 34-8
5:30 PM ET
Eastern Washington
10 California
Preview
Cal who cares
7:00 PM ET
Vanderbilt
11 LSU
ESPNU
Preview
LSU 27-15
8:00 PM ET
Miami (OH)
12 Boise State
ESPN 360
Preview
Boise State 25-7
7:00 PM ET
Idaho State
13 Oklahoma
Preview
OKlahoma
Conversation
1:30 PM ET
Marshall
14 Virginia Tech
ESPN 360
Preview
Va tech 45-14
3:30 PM ET
16 TCU
Virginia
ESPNU
Preview
TCU 52-0
10:30 PM ET
17 Utah
San Jose State
ESPNU
Preview
Utah 28-21
3:30 PM ET
18 Notre Dame
Michigan
ABC
Preview
Notre Dame 28-25
12:00 PM ET
19 North Carolina
Connecticut
ESPNU
Preview
UNC 20-10
7:00 PM ET
South Carolina
21 Georgia
ESPN2 / 360
Preview
South Carolina 15-12
2:00 PM ET
Arkansas State
22 Nebraska
Preview
Nebraska really?
7:30 PM ET
Southeast Missouri State
23 Cincinnati
ESPN 360
Preview
Cinci
7:30 PM ET
24 Kansas
UTEP
Preview
Kansas 32-9
7:00 PM ET
Bowling Green
25 Missouri
Missouri 40-22
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You picked ND over Michigan!? :O hummm. that is a tough one.
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You picked ND over Michigan!? :O hummm. that is a tough one.
Michigan is still a young team, frosh QB,and I think Notre Dame might finally put it together.
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Michigan is still a young team, frosh QB,and I think Notre Dame might finally put it together.
How far the expectations have fallen for Notredumb and Michaginimpossible. :D
BTW...here are BCS results. (I know you guys prefer predictions.)
SEC
The champs since the BCS started
Tennessee (SEC)
Florida State (ACC)
Oklahoma (Big 12)
Miami (Florida) (Big East)
Ohio State (Big Ten)
LSU (SEC)
USC (Pac-10)
Texas (Big 12)
Florida (SEC)
LSU (SEC)
Florida (SEC)
I'll let the other conferences tally up the totals. :aok
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7:30 PM ET
Clemson
15 Georgia Tech
ESPN / 360
Preview
Georgia Tech 35-10
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NOT SO FAST, MY FRIEND!
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Hahaha you think being a buckeyes fan is tough, you should try rooting for the Orange. :uhoh
Last time they were good so were the Bills...oh wait. :(
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A&M will come out on top this weekend :P
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Who you guys got in UCLA-Tennessee? I gotta say Tennessee here
Frosh QB + 100,000 fans singing "Rocky Top" = Very very bad
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Tennessee...their defense is pretty good this year. I still have doubts over Crompton and their injured WR corps this year, but their defense will back up a weaker offense.
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CHOKLAHOMA ST. :rofl :rofl :rofl
...and another Pig12 top ten team goes down :lol
Edit: Notredumb just got knocked out of the top 25 too. WTG Charlie :aok
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MICHIGAN vs ND. What a game.
I got USC over OHIO STATE (and i am a buckeye fan) by 10.
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Notre Dame all the way :aok :aok :aok
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Notre Dame all the way :aok :aok :aok
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they lost, should have won that one.
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Jacks st 9 Florida st 7 :huh
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Jacks st 9 Florida st 7 :huh
FSU is not the power house team these days. Time for Bobby to retired.
As far as USC vs OSU. Either USC is not as great as people say they are, or OSU is better then people think they are. But willhave to see who will win.
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WVU 2-0
muhahahaha
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WVU 2-0
muhahahaha
33-20 over Liberty....
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MICHIGAN vs ND. What a game.
I got USC over OHIO STATE (and i am a buckeye fan) by 10.
I stand corrected, loose by 2
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take a look at this score lol
http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/boxscore?gameId=292552617
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I wasn't impressed by either OSU or USC.
Any comparisons between Terrell Pryor and Vince Young should stop at their physical similiarities. While Young could make defenders miss and take off downfield for a big gain, Pryor looks confused and hesitates. Young had the ability to throw on the run and hit receivers; Pryor looks rattled and uncomfortable both in the pocket and when he scrambles.
While the play by play commentators were heaping praise on Barkley, the real credit for the game winning drive should go to the Trojan o-line, and to Joe McKnight. McKnight made an inside move to get open against a LB and turned it into a huge gain; that happened because the Trojan o-line finally looked like the "fabulous" unit everyone was touting before the game, and Barkley flipped the ball to McKnight who did the rest. I won't ignore the pass to the TE, it was a good throw. But most of the night, he looked like what I feel he is.....an overrated freshman QB playing for an overrated school.
My summary of the game: A yawner between two very overrated programs, that unfortunately, will be billed as a classic game due solely to who the participants were.
Flame away, Buckeye and Trojan fans.......... :aok
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I wasn't impressed by either OSU or USC.
Any comparisons between Terrell Pryor and Vince Young should stop at their physical similiarities. While Young could make defenders miss and take off downfield for a big gain, Pryor looks confused and hesitates. Young had the ability to throw on the run and hit receivers; Pryor looks rattled and uncomfortable both in the pocket and when he scrambles.
While the play by play commentators were heaping praise on Barkley, the real credit for the game winning drive should go to the Trojan o-line, and to Joe McKnight. McKnight made an inside move to get open against a LB and turned it into a huge gain; that happened because the Trojan o-line finally looked like the "fabulous" unit everyone was touting before the game, and Barkley flipped the ball to McKnight who did the rest. I won't ignore the pass to the TE, it was a good throw. But most of the night, he looked like what I feel he is.....an overrated freshman QB playing for an overrated school.
My summary of the game: A yawner between two very overrated programs, that unfortunately, will be billed as a classic game due solely to who the participants were.
Flame away, Buckeye and Trojan fans.......... :aok
I "gagree" as Vince Young put it on Leno. ;)
Spot on w/ the o-line and McKnight.
I'm hoping for USC to reach the championship game vs. an SEC squad. It would be nice to see them "win" a championship on the field against us instead of "claiming" one and having the AP hand it to them as happened in 2003. All they did was beat a 2 loss Michican't while we sat the 1 loss Choklahoma Heisman winner and crew down on their butts in the "Championship game".
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personally, i thought USC should won that game by 15. That was not the case. All the hype about USC begin a true national championship contender, lol. That the way they play against OSU, they don't deserved to be in the top 5. And for OSU, they are not over rated and under appreciated.
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I "gagree" as Vince Young put it on Leno. ;)
Spot on w/ the o-line and McKnight.
I'm hoping for USC to reach the championship game vs. an SEC squad. It would be nice to see them "win" a championship on the field against us instead of "claiming" one and having the AP hand it to them as happened in 2003. All they did was beat a 2 loss Michican't while we sat the 1 loss Choklahoma Heisman winner and crew down on their butts in the "Championship game".
I thought the same back then, and still do.
USC was saying they were going for a 3-peat back in 2005 when they were facing UT in the BCS title game........hhmmm.......IIRC, LSU spanked OU in the title game in 2003 (a game OU had no right to be in when they had just lost their own conference title game in embarassing fashion), then USC actually did put a major spanking on OU in 2004. Who cares about a media poll champion? The real champions in 2003 were the LSU Tigers and they won it on the field. Granted, there were several teams who should have faced LSU in the title game rather than OU, but the co-championship USC claims to have won that season is just fictitious.......there's a reason they play the games, right?
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wasn't 2003 the year that Boise St. should have gotten into the national championship?
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2003 was the year Boise St. beat TCU in the inaugural Ft. Worth Bowl by a field goal. :rolleyes:
I thought the same back then, and still do.
USC was saying they were going for a 3-peat back in 2005 when they were facing UT in the BCS title game........hhmmm.......IIRC, LSU spanked OU in the title game in 2003 (a game OU had no right to be in when they had just lost their own conference title game in embarassing fashion), then USC actually did put a major spanking on OU in 2004. Who cares about a media poll champion? The real champions in 2003 were the LSU Tigers and they won it on the field. Granted, there were several teams who should have faced LSU in the title game rather than OU, but the co-championship USC claims to have won that season is just fictitious.......there's a reason they play the games, right?
No doubt. The only split championship since the BCS was created is the media darlings of USC in 2003. It's OK though. Since then the pampers were put on USC, all they've had to do was ride their preseason tricycles into the championship game each year. Unfortunately, they either lose to Stanford, Cal, Oregon St, or Texas. Luckily they got to play Stoops and Choklahoma the year Auburn was undefeated w/ Ronnie Brown, Cadillac Williams, and Jason Campbell in the same backfield. Say what you want about them. They either start in the NFL, or at least carry the load when healthy unlike Leinart, Young, and Reggie Bush.
Then you have Pete Carrol who says the same crap at the end of the year about how they are the best team at the end of the season. Too bad, Hollywood.
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2003 was the year Boise St. beat TCU in the inaugural Ft. Worth Bowl by a field goal. :rolleyes:
No doubt. The only split championship since the BCS was created is the media darlings of USC in 2003. It's OK though. Since then the pampers were put on USC, all they've had to do was ride their preseason tricycles into the championship game each year. Unfortunately, they either lose to Stanford, Cal, Oregon St, or Texas. Luckily they got to play Stoops and Choklahoma the year Auburn was undefeated w/ Ronnie Brown, Cadillac Williams, and Jason Campbell in the same backfield. Say what you want about them. They either start in the NFL, or at least carry the load when healthy unlike Leinart, Young, and Reggie Bush.
Then you have Pete Carrol who says the same crap at the end of the year about how they are the best team at the end of the season. Too bad, Hollywood.
Dont you know? Its a felony for saying that, punishable by death. Oh wait, nevermind you don't live in southern california, bandwagon central.
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they lost, should have won that one.
ya i agree :salute
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Either way, the games yesterday were excellent. The michigan ND game going down to the wire and USC Ohio State was a pure classic IMO
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Either way, the games yesterday were excellent. The michigan ND game going down to the wire and USC Ohio State was a pure classic IMO
yea they were all great games i watched everyone of them what a night :rock
:salute
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Image of the Week:
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg3/Pannono/ImageoftheMonth.jpg)
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Image of the Week:
(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg3/Pannono/ImageoftheMonth.jpg)
Washington has look surprisinly good this year, compared to last year and the year before..... its nice to see they ended there losing streak, 2 and 1 this year so far would be nice to see another Don James type Era starting.
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(http://i244.photobucket.com/albums/gg3/Pannono/ImageoftheMonth.jpg)
Looks like an advertisement for two condom companies.
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USC always loses the games they should win in their conference. Then they end up crying at the end of year with Pete Carrill saying that they are the best team in the country and should be in the BCS.
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USC always loses the games they should win in their conference. Then they end up crying at the end of year with Pete Carrill saying that they are the best team in the country and should be in the BCS.
He just a whinny little B*tch.
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Choklahoma is the only 1 loss team in the top ten. :rolleyes:
What a joke this system is.
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there is way to many 2v1 teams in the top 25 on both polls, just goes to show how your school name means more than how your performing
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the real upset in the Pacific Northwest was when the Wazzu Cougars narrowly defeated the Mighty Mustangs of SMU. That was a travesty.
-Sik
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LSU spanked OU in the title game in 2003 (a game OU had no right to be in when they had just lost their own conference title game in embarassing fashion)
21-14 is a spanking? :huh :huh
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LSU spanked OU in the title game in 2003 (a game OU had no right to be in when they had just lost their own conference title game in embarassing fashion)
21-14 is a spanking? :huh :huh
At least OU played a conference championship game. Besides, media darlings USC were given the AP championship after Pete Carroll anounced they were the NC after beating a 2 loss Michigan. :rolleyes:
The OU heisman looked awfull that day. I'll just cut and paste this tidbit since I'm not motivated enough to go into detail.
"Once the game commenced, LSU's #1 ranked defense held the country's most prolific offense, which had averaged 45.2 points and 461 yards per game, to 154 total yards, and just one touchdown until the closing minutes of the game. Heisman Trophy-winning QB Jason White completed only 13 of his 37 passing attempts for a mere 102 yards, was sacked seven times and intercepted twice."
Sounds like a spanking to me.
That will be all. :D
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LSU spanked OU in the title game in 2003 (a game OU had no right to be in when they had just lost their own conference title game in embarassing fashion)
21-14 is a spanking? :huh :huh
This what really bugs me. People like you make remarks that a team had no rights to be in this bowl or that bowl. Well, have you ever wonder who put them there in the first place?
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http://campuscorner.kansascity.com/node/264
"McCoy battled the flu last week and was quarantined for a couple of days. He wasn’t at 100 percent strength against the Red Raiders but it helped at halftime when he downed some Pedialyte to help him rehydrate. He also wolfed down some peanut butter and jelly sandwiches, which is a halftime routine for McCoy."
Pedialyte :D
Anyone else get a chuckle out of this? I can actually see Mack Brown cutting the crusts off an holding the triangle for Colt to munch on.
Remember when Mack Brown intercepted and then answered the questions for Chrissy Simms after they lost the Big12 championship to Colorado and missed out on the National Championship?
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Wow. Another fun week already...
Ole Miss gets beat.
Cal down 25-3 at the half vs. Oregon.
Va Tech up 21 - 0 over Miami at the half.
Fla St. gets it handed to them by South Fla. :lol
Georgia Tech upsets N.C.
Michican't squueks by Indiana.
LSU holds Miss St. at the 6 inch line 4 straight plays to squeek out a win.
More to come...
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Some week 5 notes:
Choklahoma lives up to their name.
MichIcan't lifts their skirts to unranked Michigan St.
Undefeated Texas A&M plays a last place SEC West team.....and loses 47-19.
Cal is the picture of consistency by scoring only 1 field goal for the 2nd week in a row.
Boise beats some weak FCS team. :rolleyes:
#12 Houston (The team that beat OK St. & Texas Tech) is losing 37-20 with only the 4th quarter remaining......to UTEP. :lol
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WE CHOKED :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:
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Undefeated Texas A&M plays a last place SEC West team.....and loses 47-19.
SEC > All
And I am a Pac-10 fan saying that
EDIT: Also of note, Case Keenum's (Houston) sore arm. 76 pass attempts!
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Sigh, well, can things get any crazier?
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Yeah my team (UAB) beat a pretty good Southern Miss team this past Thursday for the first time EVER!!! Go Blazers! It just goes to show that a blind squirrel can find a nut every once in a while.
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All I have to say is how do those Hawkeyes Look. I think they look like the most impressive team in the Big 10 right now :aok
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All I have to say is how do those Hawkeyes Look. I think they look like the most impressive team in the Big 10 right now :aok
they beat arkansas state 13-10....
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All I have to say is how do those Hawkeyes Look. I think they look like the most impressive team in the Big 10 right now :aok
I was at the Hawkeye game. As expected Iowa controlled Arkansas State from the start and was a little flat coming off their big win in Happy Valley. They ran basic offensive plays, standard defense (cover 2) showing nothing leading into the Michigan game. Arkansas State may have lacked size, and the athletic ability of a big school but they are a well coached team. Defensively Arkansas loaded the box to kill the running game of Iowa. Rick Stanzi threw well though not impressive. Some very nice touchdown throws. DJK went out in the first series and didn't return. Tyler Sash got his fifth interception of the year.
This wasn't Iowa's most impressive outting of the year. Just a solid effort between Big Ten conference games.
2:49 4th quarter; Arkansas State scores. Onside kick. Iowa runs some very basic running plays running the clock down. Punt. Arkansas 10 sec. Two pass plays. Game over. Score 24-21 Iowa.
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Arkansas State may have lacked size, and the athletic ability of a big school but they are a well coached team. Defensively Arkansas loaded the box to kill the running game of Iowa. Rick Stanzi threw well though not impressive. Some very nice touchdown throws. DJK went out in the first series and didn't return. Tyler Sash got his fifth interception of the year.
This wasn't Iowa's most impressive outting of the year. Just a solid effort between Big Ten conference games.
Ark St. is a 1-3 SunBelt Conference team.
I'd say it was another case where a top ranked Pig10 school let a crappy team from a crappy conference come into a Pig10 stadium and make them sweat. :aok
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The problems with most Big Ten teams (such as Penn State) is the early part of the schedule. Most schedule cupcake university.
Same with them all. The only one that plays any ranked team within the first three games of the year is The Ohio State University.
They've played texas, home and home, and now play USC...this year they lost in Columbus. They will go to USC next year.
Most credit USCs loss to Oregon to the previous weeks game at OSU. Was a tough game for both teams.
This is one of the reason I believe OSU is in first place in the big ten by the end of the year. They actually schedule a top flite
team in the early going. Scheduling Notre Dame a middle of the pack team of the 115 NCAA teams is not a true test.
Truthfully....if it weren't for alumni and a TV contract with NBC.....ND MIGHT make be ranked 50. Not in the top 25.
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Ark St. is a 1-3 SunBelt Conference team.
I'd say it was another case where a top ranked Pig10 school let a crappy team from a crappy conference come into a Pig10 stadium and make them sweat. :aok
No. Iowa played a very safe game. If Iowa lost the game it would have made no difference in the Big 10. Arkansas State may be doing badly in their conference but they are a well coached team. Their players were seldom out of position. They were out manned and the game outcome was never in doubt. Crappy team? Their in conference loss was to Troy by 3 points. Look at Purdue. Calling them a team right now is being generous. Unlike Purdue, Arkansas State didn't embarrass themselves.
Iowa's defense is solid. Their offense while struggling gets the job done. They probably have the toughest road schedule in the country. So winning all their games may not happen. Crappy? No. Bowl record. 1-1 Florida, 0-1 USC, 1-0 LSU, 1-0 USC(South Carolina) 1-0 vs Texas Tech.
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OSU success has little to do with their early game schedule. In the past few years OSU has not finished that well. They go through the Big Ten then splat. So the theory that their early schedule is their key to success doesn't hold up. What their early schedule does is give them a lot of exposure to a national audience for recruiting. OSU typically only has one nationally ranked team on thier early schedule.
OSU may lose a couple of games this year. They have tough games against Wisconsin, Penn State and Iowa coming up.
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The problems with most Big Ten teams (such as Penn State) is the early part of the schedule. Most schedule cupcake university.
Most credit USCs loss to Oregon to the previous weeks game at OSU. Was a tough game for both teams.
I guess OSU lost to USC because the previous week they played a tough game against Navy. :lol
Also, It's a good thing OSU had Toledo after their tough game agaisnt USC. :rofl
If my fav team cried about having to play tough games back to back we'd be cryin all the time.
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No. Iowa played a very safe game. If Iowa lost the game it would have made no difference in the Big 10. Arkansas State may be doing badly in their conference but they are a well coached team. Their players were seldom out of position. They were out manned and the game outcome was never in doubt. Crappy team? Their in conference loss was to Troy by 3 points. Look at Purdue. Calling them a team right now is being generous. Unlike Purdue, Arkansas State didn't embarrass themselves.
Iowa's defense is solid. Their offense while struggling gets the job done. They probably have the toughest road schedule in the country. So winning all their games may not happen. Crappy? No. Bowl record. 1-1 Florida, 0-1 USC, 1-0 LSU, 1-0 USC(South Carolina) 1-0 vs Texas Tech.
You are right, a 3 point win at home vs a 3 loss team from the Sunbelt Conference was really solid. Wtg :aok
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LSU goes down. :frown:
USC and Ohio St will stroll up the polls for no reason. :cheers:
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WOOT BUCKEYES
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USC and OSU will continue to cruise as long as they win. Boise State ranked number five? Must be because of their tough schedule. Cincinnati number 8? :old:
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Sooners vs Longhorns next week?
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USC and OSU will continue to cruise as long as they win. Boise State ranked number five? Must be because of their tough schedule. Cincinnati number 8? :old:
It shows me two things: 1. The "system" needs a long needed overhaul (as I throw out the rankings in discussions) & 2. The cream always rises to the top and both will be out of the Top 10 before the Final Poll.
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LSU goes down. :frown:
USC and Ohio St will stroll up the polls for no reason. :cheers:
Well, you see that LSU only had 3 points. OSU score a hell lot more when the lost to USC. So, what do you expected, LSU be rank better then OSU.
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Well, you see that LSU only had 3 points. OSU score a hell lot more when the lost to USC. So, what do you expected, LSU be rank better then OSU.
So they both have one loss. Both of them at home.
LSU's loss is to the #1 undefeated team.
Ohio St.'s Loss is to a 1 loss USC.
LSU beat the team that beat USC.
Iowa and Kansas outta be ranked ahead of both of em and USC untill they lose.
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OSU's offensive production has not been good this year.
Iowa has two tough away games coming up. (Wisconsin, Michigan State) Would hate to see them get into the top ten just to get bounced back out.
Boise States' schedule is a joke for a top tier team. Cal-Davis, Tulsa, Hawaii, San Jose State... Cincinnati will have some competition this Thursday against South Florida. Then Pitt.
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Arkansas vs #1 Florida
Saturday Oct. 17th
Kick-off 3:30 ET.
GO RAZORBACKS!!!
Anyone else have faith in the hogs? :uhoh
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Not a matter of faith. FU is just good.
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Arkansas will be the best offense the Gators have faced all year but probably not good enough.
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So they both have one loss. Both of them at home.
LSU's loss is to the #1 undefeated team.
Ohio St.'s Loss is to a 1 loss USC.
Correction, USC was undfeated when they played OSU.
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Correction, USC was undfeated when they played OSU.
I don't need to be corrected.
OSU lost to USC led by a frosh QB. USC lost to a team that LSU beat.
LSU lost to last years national champion...this years undefeated #1 Florida. Their QB has two national championships and 1 Heisman.
LSU is ranked below OSU. OSU is overrated and has lost their last 3 BCS bowl games. One of those games was to LSU in the Championship in which they were the #1 team and favored to win and got embarrassed for the 2nd year in a row.
You wanted to get technical. I'm game.
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I don't need to be corrected.
OSU lost to USC led by a frosh QB. USC lost to a team that LSU beat.
LSU lost to last years national champion...this years undefeated #1 Florida. Their QB has two national championships and 1 Heisman.
LSU is ranked below OSU. OSU is overrated and has lost their last 3 BCS bowl games. One of those games was to LSU in the Championship in which they were the #1 team and favored to win and got embarrassed for the 2nd year in a row.
You wanted to get technical. I'm game.
I was about to post this exact "chronology". :rofl
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I don't need to be corrected.
OSU lost to USC led by a frosh QB. USC lost to a team that LSU beat.
LSU lost to last years national champion...this years undefeated #1 Florida. Their QB has two national championships and 1 Heisman.
LSU is ranked below OSU. OSU is overrated and has lost their last 3 BCS bowl games. One of those games was to LSU in the Championship in which they were the #1 team and favored to win and got embarrassed for the 2nd year in a row.
You wanted to get technical. I'm game.
That freshman QB did not do sh*t to beat OSU. It was McKight that pull it off at the end.
And OSU past bowl losses has no barrings on their ranking this year. The only game that they should have won the national championship was against Flordia. They slip right into the National Championship against LSU because 8 other teams a head of them kept loosing. Which puts OSU back to number one. They where never favor to win that game.
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That freshman QB did not do sh*t to beat OSU. It was McKight that pull it off at the end.
And OSU past bowl losses has no barrings on their ranking this year. The only game that they should have won the national championship was against Flordia. They slip right into the National Championship against LSU because 8 other teams a head of them kept loosing. Which puts OSU back to number one. They where never favor to win that game.
I'll bite.... I guess these people saw the game I saw. Maybe your TV had too much fuzz on it.
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/recap?gameId=292550194
http://www.43things.com/entries/view/4234003
No. 3 USC trailing at The Horseshoe: as frosh QB "Troy Wonder", Matt Barkley leads a game-winning drive in an 18-15 victory over No. 8 Ohio 4 weeks ago
COLUMBUS, Ohio (AP) — Two games into his college football career, 19-year-old quarterback Matt Barkley already has a place in Southern California lore.
Three seasons into his USC career, Joe McKnight (FSY) can now claim a spot with the great runners at Tailback U.
The freshman phenom and the shifty tailback made big play after big play, and Stafon Johnson (FSY) capped one of the great drives in USC’s storied history with a 2-yard touchdown run with 1:05 left to give the third-ranked Trojans an 18-15 victory against No. 8 Ohio State on Saturday night.
http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/college/football/usc_frosh_stuns_buckeyes_with_late_8vqraD35bknX5vQIZexEVJ
USC frosh stuns BuckeyesUSC 18, Ohio St. 1By LENN ROBBINS
Last Updated: 7:55 AM, September 13, 2009
Posted: 3:01 AM, September 13, 2009
COLUMBUS, Ohio -- It is known simply as "The Drive," and try as they might no Ohio football fan can ever spit out the bile of John Elway's heroics in the 1987 AFC title game when the Broncos beat the Browns.
USC quarterback Matt Barkley has drawn comparisons to Elway. He wears No. 7. He has blond hair and a winning smile. And now he has a drive that Ohio State football fans will bitterly chew on for years to come.
Trailing 15-10 with 7 minutes 15 seconds left, his ears assaulted by the roar of an Ohio Stadium crowd of 106,033, -- many of whom were screaming, "Go back to high school!" -- and his body battered by Buckeye defenders, Barkley drove the Trojans 86 yards in 6:10 before handing off to Stafon Johnson for a two-yard touchdown run with 1:05 left.
"Yeah, it reminded me of Elway's drive," USC athletic director Mike Garrett told The Post. "We only had two drives the whole game but that one. . .
Yes, that one.
It started with Barkley stepping into the huddle with the Ohio State student section behind him and 86 yards in front. "He just grinned and said, 'Let's do what we came here to do,' " USC center Kristofer O'Dowd said.
Barkley celebrated his 19th birthday Tuesday night. But through three and a half quarters last night, he was baptized in the blood, sweat and tears of big time college football.
"The fans kept yelling at him to go back to high school," said O'Dowd.
"Nothing he does anymore amazes me because I know him now," said Carroll. "He's tough. He's amazing."
They had the Trojans pinned at their 14 with 7:10 between redemption and despair
The Buckeyes (1-1), who struggled to beat Navy 31-27 last week, have the Big Ten title to play for. But the Trojans (2-0) once again are legitimate BCS championship contenders. This was their 12th straight win.
lenn.robbins@nypost.com
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I'll bite.... I guess these people saw the game I saw. Maybe your TV had too much fuzz on it.
Most "fans" only "see what they want to see". Come on now, you should have already known this. :cool:
But yes, a Freshman QB beat the "sh*t" out of OSU.
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Gee, i thought you would get really technical, but i guess you only do it by quoting media. Ok, so you say that Barkley beat the s!it out of OSU. Let look at his stats:
CMP ATT YDS CMP% LNG TD INT RAT ATT YDS AVG LNG TD
San Jose State W 56-3 15 19 233 78.9 44 1 0 199.32 3 -5 -1.7 1 0
Ohio State W 18-15 15 31 195 48.4 26 0 1 94.77 7 8 1.1 6 0
Washington L 16-13 Did Not Play or did not accumulate any stats.
Washington State W 27-6 13 22 247 59.1 57 2 0 183.40 2 -2 -1.0 5 0
California W 30-3 20 35 283 57.1 56 0 1 119.35 3 -6 -2.0 1 0
Yea, i really do not see big number that even show that he beat OSU. You must be still watch the game against SJS.
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Yea, i really do not see big number that even show that he beat OSU. You must be still watch the game against SJS.
The big #'s are 84 yards and over 6 minutes.
That's how long the freshman QB's game winning drive was at Overrated St. University.
Keep ignoring it if it helps you in some way.
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The big #'s are 84 yards and over 6 minutes.
That's how long the freshman QB's game winning drive was at Overrated St. University.
Keep ignoring it if it helps you in some way.
84 yards in 6 mins. WOW, any QB can do 84 yards in 6 mins. Why are you so focus in the last few mins where there are 48 min in a game, which Barkley did not do s@it.
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Barkley didnt really do anything. All he did was give the ball to the running back and the RB did the rest of the work. Barkley just gets cred because hes a freshman. Big deal.
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Barkley didnt really do anything. All he did was give the ball to the running back and the RB did the rest of the work. Barkley just gets cred because hes a freshman. Big deal.
Looks like a solid 4th quarter drive led by a QB to me...
USC at 7:29 USC OSU
1st and 10 at USC 14 Matt Barkley sacked by Devon Torrence for a loss of 4 yards to the USC 10. 10 15
2nd and 14 at USC 10 USC penalty 5 yard delay of game accepted.
2nd and 19 at USC 5 Joe McKnight rush for 11 yards to the USC 16.
3rd and 8 at USC 16 Matt Barkley pass complete to Joe McKnight for 21 yards to the USC 37 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at USC 37 Matt Barkley pass complete to Anthony McCoy for 26 yards to the OhSt 37 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at OSU 37 Matt Barkley pass incomplete.
2nd and 10 at OSU 37 Joe McKnight rush for 1 yard to the OhSt 36.
3rd and 9 at OSU 36 Matt Barkley pass complete to Damian Williams for 8 yards to the OhSt 28.
4th and 1 at OSU 28 Matt Barkley rush for 1 yard to the OhSt 27 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at OSU 27 Joe McKnight rush for 4 yards to the OhSt 23.
2nd and 6 at OSU 23 Joe McKnight rush for 9 yards to the OhSt 14 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at OSU 14 Matt Barkley pass incomplete to Damian Williams.
2nd and 10 at OSU 14 Joe McKnight rush for 8 yards to the OhSt 6.
3rd and 2 at OSU 6 Timeout OHIO ST, clock 01:14.
3rd and 2 at OSU 6 Matt Barkley rush for 4 yards to the OhSt 2 for a 1ST down.
1st and Goal at OSU 2 Timeout OHIO ST, clock 01:11.
1st and Goal at OSU 2 Stafon Johnson rush for 2 yards for a TOUCHDOWN. 18 15
Two-point conversion attempt, Matt Barkley pass to Joe McKnight GOOD. 18 15
Jordan Congdon kickoff for 65 yards returned by Lamaar Thomas for 31 yards to the OhSt 36.
DRIVE TOTALS: USC drive: 14 plays 86 yards, 06:10 USC TD
Of course, I am not from Ohio. :rolleyes:
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Looks like a solid 4th quarter drive led by a QB to me...
USC at 7:29 USC OSU
1st and 10 at USC 14 Matt Barkley sacked by Devon Torrence for a loss of 4 yards to the USC 10. 10 15
2nd and 14 at USC 10 USC penalty 5 yard delay of game accepted.
2nd and 19 at USC 5 Joe McKnight rush for 11 yards to the USC 16.
3rd and 8 at USC 16 Matt Barkley pass complete to Joe McKnight for 21 yards to the USC 37 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at USC 37 Matt Barkley pass complete to Anthony McCoy for 26 yards to the OhSt 37 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at OSU 37 Matt Barkley pass incomplete.
2nd and 10 at OSU 37 Joe McKnight rush for 1 yard to the OhSt 36.
3rd and 9 at OSU 36 Matt Barkley pass complete to Damian Williams for 8 yards to the OhSt 28.
4th and 1 at OSU 28 Matt Barkley rush for 1 yard to the OhSt 27 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at OSU 27 Joe McKnight rush for 4 yards to the OhSt 23.
2nd and 6 at OSU 23 Joe McKnight rush for 9 yards to the OhSt 14 for a 1ST down.
1st and 10 at OSU 14 Matt Barkley pass incomplete to Damian Williams.
2nd and 10 at OSU 14 Joe McKnight rush for 8 yards to the OhSt 6.
3rd and 2 at OSU 6 Timeout OHIO ST, clock 01:14.
3rd and 2 at OSU 6 Matt Barkley rush for 4 yards to the OhSt 2 for a 1ST down.
1st and Goal at OSU 2 Timeout OHIO ST, clock 01:11.
1st and Goal at OSU 2 Stafon Johnson rush for 2 yards for a TOUCHDOWN. 18 15
Two-point conversion attempt, Matt Barkley pass to Joe McKnight GOOD. 18 15
Jordan Congdon kickoff for 65 yards returned by Lamaar Thomas for 31 yards to the OhSt 36.
DRIVE TOTALS: USC drive: 14 plays 86 yards, 06:10 USC TD
Of course, I am not from Ohio. :rolleyes:
Still do not see where he beat OSU. The stats of the whole game say it all, not 6 mins of the game. Like i said before and Plazus said, Barkly did not do anything. It was McKight and Johnson that finally pull their head out of their bellybutton to make plays.
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84 yards in 6 mins. WOW, any QB can do 84 yards in 6 mins. Why are you so focus in the last few mins where there are 48 min in a game, which Barkley did not do s@it.
Barkley didnt really do anything. All he did was give the ball to the running back and the RB did the rest of the work. Barkley just gets cred because hes a freshman. Big deal.
Still do not see where he beat OSU. The stats of the whole game say it all, not 6 mins of the game. Like i said before and Plazus said, Barkly did not do anything. It was McKight and Johnson that finally pull their head out of their bellybutton to make plays.
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HEHEHE. :neener:
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Bradford got hurt again. Its just not his year.
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Bradford got hurt again. Its just not his year.
It was only a matter of time. Anyway, yeah he came down on that shoulder hard, but if that's all it took to take him out, it would have happened eventually, especially with OU's defense.
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Ohio State Loses!
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yep, they choke in that game. looks like iwoa may get the big 10 title, if they beat the buckeyes.
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Iowa still has a ways to go. Michigan State is not a automatic win for Iowa. Ohio State plays at Penn State November 7. Possible second Big Ten loss.
If Iowa goes into the Horseshoe undefeated (and OSU doesn't lose again) the best the Buckeyes can do is tie for the Big Ten title. Iowa should beat Indiana, Northwestern and Minnesota at home.
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I'm sick. Razorbacks had a chance to upset Florida and we just couldn't put it away. The refs were very biased towards the gators, even the commentators knew that. Two very questionable calls against the hogs set it up for a Florida TD. A last second Florida field goal set the final to 23-20. Anyway, great job by the hogs for comin out and playin strong. Not tryin to undermine the gators, but that game was way closer than anyone had expected.
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Texas didn't do as well as they should have for a top ranked team. Considering they were playing a Bradford less Oklahoma. Gators were definitely beatable today. USC not dominate, but we already knew that. They win but have to fight off a upset. Ohio State loses to a 2-5 team on the road.
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I'm sick. Razorbacks had a chance to upset Florida and we just couldn't put it away. The refs were very biased towards the gators, even the commentators knew that. Two very questionable calls against the hogs set it up for a Florida TD. A last second Florida field goal set the final to 23-20. Anyway, great job by the hogs for comin out and playin strong. Not tryin to undermine the gators, but that game was way closer than anyone had expected.
Do feel to bad. After that game, this will boost Bama confidence that they will FINALLY have a shot at the National Championship. Florida is weak this year.
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Do feel to bad. After that game, this will boost Bama confidence that they will FINALLY have a shot at the National Championship. Florida is weak this year.
I wouldn't say "weak". From what I've seen of a few games I've looked in on, it's more of "they're missing something and you cannot put a finger on it".
Miscellaneous Observations:
Bama SHOULD be No.1 in the BCS. Razorbacks played EXCELLENT against a "false #1 ranked" Florida team. From Oct.-Mid Nov. the cream rises to the top as I said earlier.
Bradford I believe has gone from a No.1 pick in the 2009 Draft, to a Second round pick in the 2010 draft. His shoulder is screwed and something like this, doesn't go away. Especially after rushing back to start before he was healed in the first place.
Ohio State has lost any credibility with me. Two loses, this last one to an Unranked Purdue team fer chrissakes, has sealed it. They are a pretender in a weak Conference. I still see Michigan beating them somehow in November. OSU will probably get an undeserving Bowl Bid in the lesser BCS bowls.
I still see Iowa having what it takes to come out on top and win the Big 10 outright.
TCU....from what I have seen on a few games I've seen of them, look like a Top Tier program. His knowledge of the Defense from his previous Coordinator duties show themselves. Not to mention, their receivers always seem to get great separation from the Secondary.
I don't see a team beating Alabama in the National Championship Game. Because I don't see any team beating them, they have all of the "key components" and Ingram is making a more than deserving run at the Heisman. That front line is filthy and making large holes into the "2nd level" of their opponents Defense. If you do that, you'll win.
All of these observations are made from the eyes a Tennessee Volunteers fan who's lived in Michigan his whole life and devours Football.
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I wouldn't say "weak". From what I've seen of a few games I've looked in on, it's more of "they're missing something and you cannot put a finger on it".
Maybe not weak, but not as strong like last year.
Miscellaneous Observations:
Bama SHOULD be No.1 in the BCS. Razorbacks played EXCELLENT against a "false #1 ranked" Florida team. From Oct.-Mid Nov. the cream rises to the top as I said earlier.
I picked Bama and BSU playing each other in the National cham
Bradford I believe has gone from a No.1 pick in the 2009 Draft, to a Second round pick in the 2010 draft. His shoulder is screwed and something like this, doesn't go away. Especially after rushing back to start before he was healed in the first place.
It's just not his year. Poor guy
Ohio State has lost any credibility with me. Two loses, this last one to an Unranked Purdue team fer chrissakes, has sealed it. They are a pretender in a weak Conference. I still see Michigan beating them somehow in November. OSU will probably get an undeserving Bowl Bid in the lesser BCS bowls.
I still see Iowa having what it takes to come out on top and win the Big 10 outright.
Mich beating OSU. NO. I do see Iwoa beating them.
TCU....from what I have seen on a few games I've seen of them, look like a Top Tier program. His knowledge of the Defense from his previous Coordinator duties show themselves. Not to mention, their receivers always seem to get great separation from the Secondary.
I don't see a team beating Alabama in the National Championship Game. Because I don't see any team beating them, they have all of the "key components" (Is that what they said about USC playing aganst TU? Any thing can happen.) and Ingram is making a more than deserving run at the Heisman. That front line is filthy and making large holes into the "2nd level" of their opponents Defense. If you do that, you'll win.
All of these observations are made from the eyes a Tennessee Volunteers fan who's lived in Michigan his whole life and devours Football.
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Ohio State will have a hard time at Penn State nov 7. Then Iowa week later, then Michigan. Could be a rough November for OSU!
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Awesome day of college football, ou vs texas was just an excellent game
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Ohio State will have a hard time at Penn State nov 7. Then Iowa week later, then Michigan. Could be a rough November for OSU!
Oh yea, forgot about PSU. November will be a test for OSU for sure.
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roll tide
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USC moved up to #4!?!
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USC moved up to #4!?!
lol yea can you believe that!! the latest AP poll is so screwed up, real sad when a 3-3 team makes the top 25, and teams with no losses don't even make it, like Lou Holtz said theres no number one right now.
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lol yea can you believe that!! the latest AP poll is so screwed up, real sad when a 3-3 team makes the top 25, and teams with no losses don't even make it, like Lou Holtz said theres no number one right now.
Lou Holtz is the god of college football. He may be 100 years old, but know how to say it right about teams and results of the games.
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He (Lou Holtz) also commented on BSU's chances of playing for the national championship. "No chance"
Lou is one of the few commentators to say that the polls are screwed up in reference to Boise State. Its a absolute joke that BSU is in the top ten when they play a div 2 schedule.
It will take another loss to dislodge the pollsters lips from USC's backside. USC is a top 15 team. At best. Not top 5, not top ten, a top 15 team. Maybe. They barely escaped Notre Dame. A Notre Dame team that lost to mediocre Michigan.
Ohio State has never played like a top ten team this year. Wisconsin beat OSU all over the field except where it counted, the scoreboard. The beat down at Purdue was unexpected. But much enjoyed by Big Ten fans that are not Ohio State fans.
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Mind you, Michigan was handed the victory against Notre Dame. That last minute penalty was absolute BS.
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Yes but the point is if Notre Dame was all that good that penalty would not have been an issue.
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Wow,
The Tide came to play today! I was rooting for Fla to win, but they are getting murderd right now by 19pts and Tebow just threw an int in the endzone.
At least the SEC will be repesented by a horse in this yrs. NCG.
As a LSU fan, I am hoping we can get back to a level that can compete with them. :( Not looking good for the rest of the SEC WEST
And on the West coast.....
(http://i411.photobucket.com/albums/pp193/dmbear/USC.jpg)
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I wanted UF to win but while Tebow's pick hurt, the WRs did not come to play today. Way to many drops by the receiving corps. The defense as well has choked coming in as the #1 defense in the country is bending over and allowing Alabama to work them.
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Bama just outright beat Florida with the offensive and defensive lines today. Florida could not get anything going protection wise against that defensive front and got man handled by the offensive line from Alabama; oh and the drunk from Florida wouldn't have made a difference against the way they looked today. Bama was prepared and Florida thought they would win it just by walking on the field...and one man (Tebow) just can't carry the load all 13 games that it takes to win an SEC Championship. Nice win by a well coached team today.
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Roll tide! I predicted Bama 34 Florida 20 at another board... wasn't off by much!
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I really thought that the FU and Bama game would be head to head. Man, that was not the same FU team that i keep watch all year long.
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Roll tide! I predicted Bama 34 Florida 20 at another board... wasn't off by much!
:rock
I predicted 30-14....I wasn't off by much either!
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Great game that Texas and Nebraska just played. I can guarantee that the good old boy network of college coaches is firing up about now between Texas opponents and Alabama opponents. If Alabama can play defense like they did tonight against Texas you can count on championship #13 going to Alabama and with the game that Mark Ingram played today compared to what Colt McCoy did tonight I would just about bet that Ingram wins the Heisman and runs for 150 against Texas in a little over a month from now.
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Great game that Texas and Nebraska just played. I can guarantee that the good old boy network of college coaches is firing up about now between Texas opponents and Alabama opponents. If Alabama can play defense like they did tonight against Texas you can count on championship #13 going to Alabama and with the game that Mark Ingram played today compared to what Colt McCoy did tonight I would just about bet that Ingram wins the Heisman and runs for 150 against Texas in a little over a month from now.
Texas needed all the calls, a boneheaded out of bounds kickoff, a stupid horsecollar penalty, and a review of the time clock to kick a filed goal and beat a team that couldn't score a touchdown on a High School field.
Just glad to see McCoy choke in a game he coulda clinched the Hypesman trophy.
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No one has been specatular this year for Heisman. He may not have been on a great team, but Mr. Gerhart From standford should get the Heisman. Im sure to SEC ppls this is going to seem retarted, but in any case. Next Year PAC-10 is going to be the toughest conference in america.
<edit> oh and BTW OSU is going to get slaughtered, cooked and then eaten by Oregon. It wont even be close.
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Next Year PAC-10 is going to be the toughest conference in america.
Gerhardt and Ingram should be considered over and above McCoy. The reason is that the Heisman is for THIS SEASON; NOT for the CAREER body of work that Robert Smith of ESPN says. I think Ingram gets it simply because of where he plays...as for PAC-10 being the toughest conference in America next year....
:confused: :rolleyes: :eek: :huh
:rofl
:banana:
You have lost your mind! Not next year; or even within the next 5 years will it be considered the toughest conference. There is where you need to look at the body of work in the SEC. Only one team this year is not bowl eligible...Vandy...when the PAC-10 can put all but one of their teams in a bowl game come back and talk about toughest conference in the land.
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Mr. Gerhart From standford should get the Heisman.
I caught the last Stanford game and was blown away by this guys talent. I had to agree with Musberger that it was a Heisman level performance that Gerhart gave in that game.
If I was a Heisman voter I would for sure consider him, he should be top 3 all day long, but would prob. end up voting for Ingram who I think should win it this year.
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I think Ingram gets it simply because of where he plays
Are you saying this because he plays for Bama or is in the SEC. You do realize that Bama has NEVER had a Heisman winner. Now if you are saying it because he plays for a team in the SEC then I completely agree.
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Well I certainly wouldn't mind seeing the Cincinatti Bearcats in the Championship game. Tired of seeing the usual SEC teams in there all the time.
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Well I certainly wouldn't mind seeing the Cincinatti Bearcats in the Championship game. Tired of seeing the usual SEC teams in there all the time.
I'm just glad I don't have to see Choklahoma or Overrated St. University lose another NCG.
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Well I certainly wouldn't mind seeing the Cincinatti Bearcats in the Championship game. Tired of seeing the usual SEC teams in there all the time.
What?! This post is beyond comprehension. WHOEVER the Bearcats face, they will be slaughtered.
As for your cheap shot at the SEC? It's not their fault they are the PREMIER Conference in College Football. You're crying sour grapes.
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Just glad to see McCoy choke in a game he coulda clinched the Hypesman trophy.
Yeah me too, I want to see Colt get snubbed just like Vince did so he too has a month to simmer on it. The tide played an oustanding game against the Gators. Ingram, Mcelroy, and the Bama Defense were awesome. Now the media can go on and on feeding Texas haters for the next month about how Bama is going to beat the hell out of the Longhorns just like they did a few years ago when USC was going to destroy the Longhorns in the Rose Bowl.
(http://www.espn.go.com/media/pg2/2006/0113/photo/a_young4_195.jpg)
I loved how that one played out. :aok
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Wonder who TCU will play
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Wonder who TCU will play
I saw a bowl prediction saying they'll most likely play Iowa State with Boise State playing Fla.
That's just a prediction though.
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I saw a bowl prediction saying they'll most likely play Iowa State with Boise State playing Fla.
That's just a prediction though.
hopefully that is sarcasm
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Yeah me too, I want to see Colt get snubbed just like Vince did so he too has a month to simmer on it. The tide played an oustanding game against the Gators. Ingram, Mcelroy, and the Bama Defense were awesome. Now the media can go on and on feeding Texas haters for the next month about how Bama is going to beat the hell out of the Longhorns just like they did a few years ago when USC was going to destroy the Longhorns in the Rose Bowl.
(http://www.espn.go.com/media/pg2/2006/0113/photo/a_young4_195.jpg)
I loved how that one played out. :aok
Colt snubbed? 3 interceptions in the Big12 championship game against a 3 loss Nebraska. Running out the clock on the last play.(don't tell me he was aware of the time and perfectly threw it to allow 1 sec left after a review.)
Vince may have been snubbed. Colt simply lost it.
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Mark Ingram ran his way to a heisman IMO. Shredded the "#1" defense in the nation.
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Here's how I think the Heisman voting will turn out:
1. Gerhart
2. Ingram
3. Tebow
4. McCoy
5. Keenum
As far as the BCS bowls:
NC: Alabama vs Texas
Fiesta: TCU vs Boise State
Rose: Oregon vs Ohio State
Sugar: Cincinnati vs Florida
Orange: Georgia Tech vs Iowa
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Here's how I think the Heisman voting will turn out:
1. Gerhart
2. Ingram
3. Tebow
4. McCoy
5. Keenum
As far as the BCS bowls:
NC: Alabama vs Texas
Fiesta: TCU vs Boise State
Rose: Oregon vs Ohio State
Sugar: Cincinnati vs Florida
Orange: Georgia Tech vs Iowa
Good picks Pann. But I thought the Rose Bowl was the NC game?
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The BCS added the BCS National Championship game as a 5th BCS game in 2006. The site of the game rotates around the 4 BCS sites.
2006: Fiesta
2007: Sugar
2008: Orange
2009: Rose
2010: Fiesta
2011: Sugar
etc..
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Pan, you Pac10 homer. :D
Gerhart had a great year. If he wins it will be well deserved.
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Colt snubbed? 3 interceptions in the Big12 championship game against a 3 loss Nebraska. Running out the clock on the last play.(don't tell me he was aware of the time and perfectly threw it to allow 1 sec left after a review.)
Vince may have been snubbed. Colt simply lost it.
No doubt he had a bad game, I didn't realize the trophy was awarded for one game. I'm not telling you anything about the clock and his last throw. I guess you know for a fact he didn't know about the time on the clock.Since you seem to dislike anything Big 12 I'll rely on your expert opinion. :rolleyes: Nebraska may have had three losses but I'd take their defense over anybody in the country, that's an outstanding group of young men they have.
No Fuds that wasn't sarcasm I did see that bowl prediction I'll look for the link. The Tebow picture was a little over the top though. The kid has worked his butt off for years allow him some disapointment.
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Ok here is my Case for the PAC-10.
The SEC is at the moment a bunch of cupcakes+Alabama, Florida, and LSU. That is suomething a strong recruiting class will change. Look at the Pac10 though. Stanford cause i don't think my ex-team (in once upon 6 years ago land) Toby Gerhart will leave. IF he does, Andrew Luck is still very good. USC is still decent. They will still beat the best of the Big Suck conference. UCLA is getting better. Arizona is going to get worse, but on the flip side Airzona State is going to get Better. Now the whole of this argument is going to depend on 1 single Player. Jake Locker at Washington. If he returns then Washington is going to be good. I think washington could maybe contend for the PAC10 title next year. If not, washington will remain stagnate. Im not going to talk about the teams in oregon cause they aren't going anywhere and wont be for atleast 2 years.
bye lol. :bolt:
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Case Keenum deserves the Heisman the most, but he will never get it because his team has 3 losses and is in the C-USA. I thought the Heisman was awarded to the best player in college football, not the best player on a winning BCS-conference team.
YEAR CMP ATT YDS CMP% YPA LNG TD INT SACK RAT
2009 468 659 5449 71.0 8.27 58 43 9 16 159.28
Not bad if you ask me.
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A popular topic of discussion among Pac-10 fans, among college football fans — is how their conference is doing against other conferences.
How about this: The Pac-10 is 11-8 against the SEC this decade.
(You know which team Pac-10 fans can thank? UCLA. That’s who. The gutty little Bruins swept home-and-home series this decade against the big, bad boys from Alabama and Tennessee.)
Anyway, this is relevant this week because Arizona State plays at No. 21 Georgia on Saturday, the final chance of the decade to see how the Pac-10 and the SEC compare.
Let’s look closer at that 11-8 record. By itself, that record doesn’t mean much.
I mean, if the Pac-10 had been favored by two touchdowns in every game, that would be a horrible record. So, let’s look at the point spreads.
The guys who set the betting lines try to get equal action on each side of the line and probably have been factoring in fans’ biases — SEC good, Pac-10 bad — when coming up with a point spread.
The Pac-10 has responded with a 12-6-1 record against the spread vs. the SEC, further fueling the notion that the SEC is overvalued and the Pac-10 underrated.
Furthermore …
*The Pac-10 has been favored to win only seven of the 19 matchups. It exceeded expectations by winning 11.
*Three times, the Pac-10 pulled off an upset when being an underdog of at least a touchdown — UCLA over Alabama in 2000, and UCLA over Tennessee in each of the past two seasons.
*On the flip side, the Pac-10 has been favored by at least a touchdown four times — and never faltered, winning each game.
This is not to say that the Pac-10 is a better football conference than the SEC. The SEC has more tradition, bigger stadiums, crazier fans, pays its coaches more — heck, it probably even pays its players more — and turns out the highest rate of NFL draftees.
But the head-to-head record shows the Pac-10 has nothing to apologize for, and adds to the belief that the league is unfairly underrated.
Pac-10 vs. SEC
Year Matchup Result Line
2000 No. 3 Alabama at UCLA UCLA, 35-24 Alabama -7
2001 No. 17 UCLA at No. 25 Alabama UCLA, 20-17 Alabama -2
2002 Auburn at No. 19 USC USC, 24-17 USC -7
2002 Mississippi State at No. 15 Oregon Oregon, 36-13 Oregon -13
2003 No. 13 LSU at Arizona LSU, 59-13 LSU -11
2003 No. 8 USC at No. 6 Auburn USC, 23-0 Auburn -3
2003 Oregon at Mississippi State Oregon, 42-34 Oregon -3
2004 Oregon State at No. 4 LSU LSU, 22-21 (OT) LSU -18
2005 No. 5 LSU at No. 15 Arizona State LSU, 35-31 ASU -1
2005 Arkansas at No. 1 USC USC, 70-17 USC -30
2006 Arizona at No. 8 LSU LSU, 45-3 LSU -15
2006 No. 9 Cal at No. 23 Tennessee Tennessee, 35-18 Cal -2
2006 No. 6 USC at Arkansas USC, 50-14 USC -7
2006 Washington St. at No. 4 Auburn Auburn, 40-14 Auburn -14
2007 No. 15 Tennessee at No. 12 Cal Cal, 45-31 Cal -6
2008 No. 18 Tennessee at UCLA UCLA, 27-24 (OT) Tennessee -7.5
2008 No. 3 Georgia at Arizona State Georgia, 27-10 Georgia -7
2009 No. 11 LSU at Washington LSU, 31-23 LSU -17.5
2009 UCLA at Tennessee UCLA, 19-15 Tennessee -8
But what about the college football conference bowl record for the just passed 2008 - 2009 bowl season? Here it is:
Pac-10: 5-0
SEC: 6-2
Big 12: 4-3
Big East: 4-2
ACC: 2-6
Big Ten: 1-6
WAC: 1-4
Mountain West: 3-2
Sun Belt: 1-1
How about all-time head to head SEC vs Other Conferences in bowl games?
Here you go (historical affiliation):
SEC Wins vs. SEC Losses vs. Ties SEC Win %
ACC 31 13 0 .705
Big Ten 34 21 0 .618
Big 12 15 9 0 .625
Southwest 32 26 3 .549
Pac-10 7 7 1 .500
Big East 6 6 0 .500
Big 8 13 19 1 .409
WAC 5 3 0 .625
So, head-to-head, all-time Conference vs Conference CFB bowl games -- the SEC beats every conference but three. And, two of those (Pac-10 and Big East) the SEC Ties. The only conference the SEC has lost more bowl games than one against is the Big-8 which doesn't exist any more.
How about SEC vs Other Conferences in bowl match-ups -- using current conference affiliation?
Here you go:
SEC Wins vs. SEC Losses vs. Ties SEC Win %
ACC 43 27 2 .611
Big Ten 38 26 0 .594
Big 12 41 48 3 .462
Pac-10 9 8 2 .526
Big East 6 12 1 .342
WAC 1 0 0 1.000
Well, SEC haters -- you finally have some stats to back you up. Based on current conference affiliation, the Big 12 and Big East both beat the SEC in all-time head to head bowl game match-ups. interesting when you do look into the whole who's conference is better than who's, stats dont lie
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Here ya go Fuds.
http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1023421
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. I thought the Heisman was awarded to the best player in college football,
Then it should go to Tebow because he is one of the best players of all time(even though I don't like him as a fan). Ingram put up some great numbers this year. More less in the SEC. This year SEC had the best talent. Next year it maybe the B12 Pac10 or ACC. But this year it has to be the SEC.
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Here ya go Fuds.
http://collegefootball.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=1023421
You said Iowa state not Iowa :D
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You said Iowa state not Iowa :D
So I did. My bad. :lol
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West Virginia vs Florida State in the Gator Bowl. Hate the way Bobby Bowden will go but it will be good that it will be against WVU.
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Texas was so lucky that there was a second left lol
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Ok here is my Case for the PAC-10.
The SEC is at the moment a bunch of cupcakes+Alabama, Florida, and LSU. That is suomething a strong recruiting class will change. Look at the Pac10 though. Stanford cause i don't think my ex-team (in once upon 6 years ago land) Toby Gerhart will leave. IF he does, Andrew Luck is still very good. USC is still decent. They will still beat the best of the Big Suck conference. UCLA is getting better. Arizona is going to get worse, but on the flip side Airzona State is going to get Better. Now the whole of this argument is going to depend on 1 single Player. Jake Locker at Washington. If he returns then Washington is going to be good. I think washington could maybe contend for the PAC10 title next year. If not, washington will remain stagnate. Im not going to talk about the teams in oregon cause they aren't going anywhere and wont be for atleast 2 years.
bye lol. :bolt:
you left the Pac10 winners out Oregon, James rushed for more freshman yards in the schools history, he will return, along masoli, oregon is only losing 8 seniors, there going to be someone to deal with come next season
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Ok here is my Case for the PAC-10.
The SEC is at the moment a bunch of cupcakes+Alabama, Florida, and LSU. That is suomething a strong recruiting class will change. Look at the Pac10 though. Stanford cause i don't think my ex-team (in once upon 6 years ago land) Toby Gerhart will leave. IF he does, Andrew Luck is still very good. USC is still decent. They will still beat the best of the Big Suck conference. UCLA is getting better. Arizona is going to get worse, but on the flip side Airzona State is going to get Better. Now the whole of this argument is going to depend on 1 single Player. Jake Locker at Washington. If he returns then Washington is going to be good. I think washington could maybe contend for the PAC10 title next year. If not, washington will remain stagnate. Im not going to talk about the teams in oregon cause they aren't going anywhere and wont be for atleast 2 years.
bye lol. :bolt:
SEC
Alabama
Florida
LSU
Ole Miss
Tennessee (Lane Kiffin is starting to get prime players back in tennessee) Close loss to Florida and should've beat Bama
Kentucky(every know and then will have talent)
South Carolina tough D always a threat
Georgia They will be back
Auburn always plays teams tough
Arkansas Ryan Mallet is Better than Andrew Luck
vandy had a decent years
and you say the SEC is a bunch of cupcakes :huh
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USC - Will buy some new recruits
Oregon - Masoli, James are back
Oregon State - Jaquizz and James Rodgers are back
Arizona - Mostly everyone is returning
Arizona State - Defense will be back, but a new Offensive Coordinator a new QB will make it interesting
California - I don't know about them
UCLA - Maybe 7-5 with mostly everyone returning
Stanford - Back to mediocrity
Washington - All depends on Locker. If he returns, 8-4. If he leaves, 2-10
Washington State - Will suck no matter what
What pains me the most for this season is how ASU went 4-8. Here are the basic summaries of 6 losses.
Georgia: L 20-17. Missed FG
Oregon State: L 28-17. Defense held OSU to 7 points in 2nd half.
California: L 23-21. Defense held Cal to 6 points in 2nd half. Cal wins on a FG with 21 secs left
USC: L 14-9. Offense outscored USC 9-7. Danny Sullivan throws a pick-six which turns out to be the difference in the game.
UCLA: L 23-13. Offense outscored UCLA 13-9. 2 defensive TD's by UCLA are the difference in the game.
Arizona: L 20-17. A muffed punt sets up the game winning field goal by Arizona.
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USC - Will buy some new recruits
Oregon - Masoli, James are back
Oregon State - Jaquizz and James Rodgers are back
Arizona - Mostly everyone is returning
Arizona State - Defense will be back, but a new Offensive Coordinator a new QB will make it interesting
California - I don't know about them
UCLA - Maybe 7-5 with mostly everyone returning
Stanford - Back to mediocrity
Washington - All depends on Locker. If he returns, 8-4. If he leaves, 2-10
Washington State - Will suck no matter what
. This year SEC had the best talent. Next year it maybe the B12 Pac10 or ACC. But this year it has to be the SEC.
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No doubt he had a bad game, I didn't realize the trophy was awarded for one game. I'm not telling you anything about the clock and his last throw. I guess you know for a fact he didn't know about the time on the clock.Since you seem to dislike anything Big 12 I'll rely on your expert opinion. :rolleyes: Nebraska may have had three losses but I'd take their defense over anybody in the country, that's an outstanding group of young men they have.
No Fuds that wasn't sarcasm I did see that bowl prediction I'll look for the link. The Tebow picture was a little over the top though. The kid has worked his butt off for years allow him some disapointment.
You do understand that when the Heisman race is considered close, the final game of the season is very meaningful. If any of the voters were on the fence, Colts performance had to hurt his chances.
I agree the Neb D is good. (LSU misses Bo Pelini :frown:) Best in country? Maybe. Throwing 3 picks against them is a bad game no matter how good they are. Isn't that a good reason to think Colt may have lost some voters?
Florida has a good D too. Isn't the fact that Ingram had a great game a good reason to suspect that might propel him to win the award?
Your comment about my expert opinion is kinda funny. I don't know why you try to paint me to be a know it all. I love football and enjoy debating it. The BCS system promotes that. Sorry my take on Colt, Texas, and the Big12 doesn't agree w/ yours. Maybe if your overrated, overhyped Heisman winners didn't keep looking average while losing to the SEC in National championship games I'd have a different opinion of the Big12 and it's amazing offenses.
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Maybe if your overrated, overhyped Heisman winners didn't keep looking average while losing to the SEC in National championship games I'd have a different opinion of the Big12 and it's amazing offenses.
LOL , I didn't realize they were mine. Colt was a doubtful winner even before yesterday's game, however that doesn't change my opinion of that he could be snubbed by voters simply because of who he plays for. The Horns may be my favorite college team, however being a college football fan I also love OU, Nebraska, and Colorado. I'm also a fan of the SEC. Alabama and Arkansas being my two favorites. I regularly cheer on SMU, TCU, and the USAF Academy. I just don't bad mouth any teams, conferences, or players. I do get a lot of enjoyment out of people like you though who claim to be debating when in fact all you do is insult college kids who are achieving things you personally cannot.
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Ndamakong Suh for Heisman :O
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LOL , I didn't realize they were mine. Colt was a doubtful winner even before yesterday's game, however that doesn't change my opinion of that he could be snubbed by voters simply because of who he plays for. The Horns may be my favorite college team, however being a college football fan I also love OU, Nebraska, and Colorado. I'm also a fan of the SEC. Alabama and Arkansas being my two favorites. I regularly cheer on SMU, TCU, and the USAF Academy. I just don't bad mouth any teams, conferences, or players. I do get a lot of enjoyment out of people like you though who claim to be debating when in fact all you do is insult college kids who are achieving things you personally cannot.
Oh please. Sports are debated. They wouldn't be any fun if they were not. These guys are young adults playing a sport. Talking about their performances negatively is not insulting them.
Also, you are wrong about Colt being a doubtful winner before yesterday's game. Colt was a preseason frontrunner for the Heisman, maintained his hype all year, and may still win. It was after yesterdays game that he lost a lot of hype. I assume he will still be invited to New York for the ceremony as a finalist.
As far as achieving things in college footall that I did not? You are absolutely correct. I did not. Nor did I claim I have. Does that mean I can't have an opinion on a players performance in a sport on a level I have not played at? I guess I need to go to the High School forum where all the other guys I qualify with are talking about high school games. Time to stop being critical of my favorite NFL teams too. Dang, I can';t even talk about hockey.
Get over yourself.
Btw, your claiming that you get enjoyment from people that you compare me to says more about you than your high horse posturing.
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Get over yourself.
You should follow your own advice. :lol
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A popular topic of discussion among Pac-10 fans, among college football fans — is how their conference is doing against other conferences.
How about this: The Pac-10 is 11-8 against the SEC this decade.
(You know which team Pac-10 fans can thank? UCLA. That’s who. The gutty little Bruins swept home-and-home series this decade against the big, bad boys from Alabama and Tennessee.)
Anyway, this is relevant this week because Arizona State plays at No. 21 Georgia on Saturday, the final chance of the decade to see how the Pac-10 and the SEC compare.
Let’s look closer at that 11-8 record. By itself, that record doesn’t mean much.
I mean, if the Pac-10 had been favored by two touchdowns in every game, that would be a horrible record. So, let’s look at the point spreads.
The guys who set the betting lines try to get equal action on each side of the line and probably have been factoring in fans’ biases — SEC good, Pac-10 bad — when coming up with a point spread.
The Pac-10 has responded with a 12-6-1 record against the spread vs. the SEC, further fueling the notion that the SEC is overvalued and the Pac-10 underrated.
Furthermore …
*The Pac-10 has been favored to win only seven of the 19 matchups. It exceeded expectations by winning 11.
*Three times, the Pac-10 pulled off an upset when being an underdog of at least a touchdown — UCLA over Alabama in 2000, and UCLA over Tennessee in each of the past two seasons.
*On the flip side, the Pac-10 has been favored by at least a touchdown four times — and never faltered, winning each game.
This is not to say that the Pac-10 is a better football conference than the SEC. The SEC has more tradition, bigger stadiums, crazier fans, pays its coaches more — heck, it probably even pays its players more — and turns out the highest rate of NFL draftees.
But the head-to-head record shows the Pac-10 has nothing to apologize for, and adds to the belief that the league is unfairly underrated.
Pac-10 vs. SEC
Year Matchup Result Line
2000 No. 3 Alabama at UCLA UCLA, 35-24 Alabama -7
2001 No. 17 UCLA at No. 25 Alabama UCLA, 20-17 Alabama -2
2002 Auburn at No. 19 USC USC, 24-17 USC -7
2002 Mississippi State at No. 15 Oregon Oregon, 36-13 Oregon -13
2003 No. 13 LSU at Arizona LSU, 59-13 LSU -11
2003 No. 8 USC at No. 6 Auburn USC, 23-0 Auburn -3
2003 Oregon at Mississippi State Oregon, 42-34 Oregon -3
2004 Oregon State at No. 4 LSU LSU, 22-21 (OT) LSU -18
2005 No. 5 LSU at No. 15 Arizona State LSU, 35-31 ASU -1
2005 Arkansas at No. 1 USC USC, 70-17 USC -30
2006 Arizona at No. 8 LSU LSU, 45-3 LSU -15
2006 No. 9 Cal at No. 23 Tennessee Tennessee, 35-18 Cal -2
2006 No. 6 USC at Arkansas USC, 50-14 USC -7
2006 Washington St. at No. 4 Auburn Auburn, 40-14 Auburn -14
2007 No. 15 Tennessee at No. 12 Cal Cal, 45-31 Cal -6
2008 No. 18 Tennessee at UCLA UCLA, 27-24 (OT) Tennessee -7.5
2008 No. 3 Georgia at Arizona State Georgia, 27-10 Georgia -7
2009 No. 11 LSU at Washington LSU, 31-23 LSU -17.5
2009 UCLA at Tennessee UCLA, 19-15 Tennessee -8
But what about the college football conference bowl record for the just passed 2008 - 2009 bowl season? Here it is:
Pac-10: 5-0
SEC: 6-2
Big 12: 4-3
Big East: 4-2
ACC: 2-6
Big Ten: 1-6
WAC: 1-4
Mountain West: 3-2
Sun Belt: 1-1
How about all-time head to head SEC vs Other Conferences in bowl games?
Here you go (historical affiliation):
SEC Wins vs. SEC Losses vs. Ties SEC Win %
ACC 31 13 0 .705
Big Ten 34 21 0 .618
Big 12 15 9 0 .625
Southwest 32 26 3 .549
Pac-10 7 7 1 .500
Big East 6 6 0 .500
Big 8 13 19 1 .409
WAC 5 3 0 .625
So, head-to-head, all-time Conference vs Conference CFB bowl games -- the SEC beats every conference but three. And, two of those (Pac-10 and Big East) the SEC Ties. The only conference the SEC has lost more bowl games than one against is the Big-8 which doesn't exist any more.
How about SEC vs Other Conferences in bowl match-ups -- using current conference affiliation?
Here you go:
SEC Wins vs. SEC Losses vs. Ties SEC Win %
ACC 43 27 2 .611
Big Ten 38 26 0 .594
Big 12 41 48 3 .462
Pac-10 9 8 2 .526
Big East 6 12 1 .342
WAC 1 0 0 1.000
Well, SEC haters -- you finally have some stats to back you up. Based on current conference affiliation, the Big 12 and Big East both beat the SEC in all-time head to head bowl game match-ups. interesting when you do look into the whole who's conference is better than who's, stats dont lie
When you cut and pasted this last part from this website... http://www.secsportsfan.com/top-college-football-bowl-conference.html you left out a lot of stuff. :aok
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it was all from that site. Lil to much for me to just type out, he res the end of the Article so you don't think I'm trying to hide it..
(But, all in all, when looking at all the stats on this page (and we cover them all) -- we surely have settled that the SEC is clearly the top college football bowl conference. Right?
To compare the head to head records (in all games) of the SEC vs the major college football conferences (and the Ivy League), there DMBear that's the rest lol
Even after reading all that the SEC is not as dominate as people think, and yes the Pac10 is under rated and USC is over rated as always, But why do they say the Pac10 with more titles than any other conference is the conference of Champions, this is ALL sports not just football.
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it was all from that site. Lil to much for me to just type out, he res the end of the Article so you don't think I'm trying to hide it..
(But, all in all, when looking at all the stats on this page (and we cover them all) -- we surely have settled that the SEC is clearly the top college football bowl conference. Right?
To compare the head to head records (in all games) of the SEC vs the major college football conferences (and the Ivy League), there DMBear that's the rest lol
Even after reading all that the SEC is not as dominate as people think, and yes the Pac10 is under rated and USC is over rated as always, But why do they say the Pac10 with more titles than any other conference is the conference of Champions, this is ALL sports not just football.
Anyone can click this link and see what you failed to post. http://www.secsportsfan.com/top-college-football-bowl-conference.html I don't know why you post tidbits and then laugh at me as if you have done something clever.
If winning the last 3 championships is not good enough to claim current dominance for the SEC I don't know what it would take. Also, in those same 3 years the SEC Bowl record was also 6-2, 7-2, 6-3.
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The SEC only has played the Big Ten and Big 12 in the NCG, so how do we know they are better than the Pac-10 if they havent played them?
USC choked away their chance in 2006, lost to UCLA 13-9 in last game.
Oregon had injuries slow them down in 2007. You have to admit they probably would have won the NC if Dixon didnt get hurt.
USC blew it yet again in 2008, losing to Oregon State.
They have had their chances, but the depth of the conference has slowed the Pac-10 down.
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Are you saying this because he plays for Bama or is in the SEC. You do realize that Bama has NEVER had a Heisman winner. Now if you are saying it because he plays for a team in the SEC then I completely agree.
I am saying that because he is the best and most valuable player on the best team in the SEC. I do think that Alabama would still be SEC champs without him but they would have at least one loss. There was a stretch there when he carried the team offensively because he is that good and has an offensive line that is very good this year.
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LSU 31 Washington 23.
I feel this is all i need to prove my point. That was a very closely contested game. The thing is thought washinton finished 7th!!!!!!! in the PAC10. Where as LSU is proably the 3rd best team in the SEC minus a bonehead coaching move. The SEC is like many conferences, too top heavy. THe PAC10 is more of a challenge week in and week out.
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Yeah me too, I want to see Colt get snubbed just like Vince did so he too has a month to simmer on it. The tide played an oustanding game against the Gators. Ingram, Mcelroy, and the Bama Defense were awesome. Now the media can go on and on feeding Texas haters for the next month about how Bama is going to beat the hell out of the Longhorns just like they did a few years ago when USC was going to destroy the Longhorns in the Rose Bowl.
(http://www.espn.go.com/media/pg2/2006/0113/photo/a_young4_195.jpg)
I loved how that one played out. :aok
It is already quite the opposite from what I saw last night post SEC and Big12 games. The talking heads that I saw (ESPN in particular) were yammering about how Texas was the more complete team with more weapons and played a tough schedule...blah, blah, blah...
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Also one more thing
PAC10 is bowls least year
5-0.
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Then it should go to Tebow because he is one of the best players of all time(even though I don't like him as a fan). Ingram put up some great numbers this year. More less in the SEC. This year SEC had the best talent. Next year it maybe the B12 Pac10 or ACC. But this year it has to be the SEC.
Once again the Heisman is awarded or should be awarded based on the play for that YEAR...not career.
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Once again the Heisman is awarded or should be awarded based on the play for that YEAR...not career.
If that was the case, it should be Keenum.
But the voters will never let a guy that plays for Houston with 5500 pass yds get the heisman.
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The SEC only has played the Big Ten and Big 12 in the NCG, so how do we know they are better than the Pac-10 if they havent played them?
USC choked away their chance in 2006, lost to UCLA 13-9 in last game.
Oregon had injuries slow them down in 2007. You have to admit they probably would have won the NC if Dixon didnt get hurt.
USC blew it yet again in 2008, losing to Oregon State.
They have had their chances, but the depth of the conference has slowed the Pac-10 down.
Can't argue that. It'd be nice to see them play. You can argue that the fact the Pac10 have been absent says something too.
Don't forget when Auburn went undefeated and didn't get to play USC. That was the game they hung 55 on Choklahoma and won the Pac-10's only BCS championship.
USC has had as clear a path as any other team to the National Championship the last few years. They've choked and missed out. I guess they need to concentrate on those games. Maybe thats part of the reason everyone says they are overrated. They keep choking.
As far as Oregon. I know injuries suck, but when LSU's QB was injured before the SEC championship game, the backup started and won the game because of its defense. Injuries happen.
The SEC has been in and won 4 of the last 6 BCS NCGs, I am sick of seeing Big10 and Big12 teams lose to us. I'd love to see Bama play the best that the Pac10 has to offer this year. Unfortunatley, Oregon couldn't score more than 8 on Boise St., and they let Stanford score 51 points on them.
Oregon is the 1st place team in the Pac-10, right?
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LSU 31 Washington 23.
I feel this is all i need to prove my point. That was a very closely contested game. The thing is thought washinton finished 7th!!!!!!! in the PAC10. Where as LSU is proably the 3rd best team in the SEC minus a bonehead coaching move. The SEC is like many conferences, too top heavy. THe PAC10 is more of a challenge week in and week out.
I've never seen a game that a SEC team won used more often in forums to try to argue against the SEC.
LSU led 24-13 w/ 6 minutes to play when Washington kicked a field goal to make it 24-16. LSU then drove and scored to make it 31-16 w/ about 2 minutes left to play. Jake Locker scored on the games final play to end it 31-23.
Anyways, how did USC do against Washington?
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Ok here is my Case for the PAC-10.
The SEC is at the moment a bunch of cupcakes+Alabama, Florida, and LSU. That is suomething a strong recruiting class will change.
You have lost your mind! Name one other conference that beats itself to pieces each Saturday like the SEC. There is a reason that the majority of the teams are 7 or 8 win teams each year...they play in a conference that has produced...7 National Champions since 1992 and 4 of those have come in the last 6 years with a chance to play for the 5th in that same time frame. Besides the USC + 9 FCS Division teams that is the Pac-10 hasn't been representing itself too well in the last few years. Even back in the old days when USC wasn't the power house they have been recently the other teams haven't stepped or didn't step up to stomp on them any worse than they have this year.
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I like Oregon's loss to Boise State too :aok
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Fiesta bowl TCU vs Boise state that sucks :headscratch:
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Fiesta bowl TCU vs Boise state that sucks :headscratch:
That doesnt prove anything for whoever wins.
Midmajor vs Midmajor
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when the PAC-10 can put all but one of their teams in a bowl game come back and talk about toughest conference in the land.
SEC has ten in bowl games as of today. I am a Tide fan, so I am biased a bit....but the SEC is one tough freaking conference this year....and I guess the Bowls see this also. :aok
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You have lost your mind! Name one other conference that beats itself to pieces each Saturday like the SEC. There is a reason that the majority of the teams are 7 or 8 win teams each year...they play in a conference that has produced...7 National Champions since 1992 and 4 of those have come in the last 6 years with a chance to play for the 5th in that same time frame. Besides the USC + 9 FCS Division teams that is the Pac-10 hasn't been representing itself too well in the last few years. Even back in the old days when USC wasn't the power house they have been recently the other teams haven't stepped or didn't step up to stomp on them any worse than they have this year.
PAC10.
UCLA who beat a Tennesse team @ Tennesse, that A)gave Florida fits on the road and B)Finished 2 in the SEC East and 4th Overall, finished basically at the bottom of the barrel of the pac 10 with conferences wins. ASU lost a admitted depleted Georgia team by 3 points. Lets step back here and look at the big picture. PAC10 has more quality teams. This and proably next year than the SEC does. It may not be a top end heavy, but top to bottom it is a superior conference to the SEC. The w-l record wont show that though cause the pac10 plays 9 conference games unlike the SEC which get the ability to schedule 1 more cupcake each to help bolster their w-l. IDK im just not seeing how the SEC is better. Really.
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PAC10.
UCLA who beat a Tennesse team @ Tennesse, that A)gave Florida fits on the road and B)Finished 2 in the SEC East and 4th Overall, finished basically at the bottom of the barrel of the pac 10 with conferences wins. ASU lost a admitted depleted Georgia team by 3 points. Lets step back here and look at the big picture. PAC10 has more quality teams. This and proably next year than the SEC does. It may not be a top end heavy, but top to bottom it is a superior conference to the SEC. The w-l record wont show that though cause the pac10 plays 9 conference games unlike the SEC which get the ability to schedule 1 more cupcake each to help bolster their w-l. IDK im just not seeing how the SEC is better. Really.
(http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h83/ezpl/4ecddbf0vc1.jpg)
*stolen from Grizz long time ago
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Ok. You all have convinced me that the PAC 10 is the best confernce.
The Pac10 is the best conference this year and will be next year. I will tell this to all who will listen while I'm cheering on an SEC team to win the 5th Championship in the last 7 years.
That makes perfect sense to me. :banana:
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Has anyone in this topic heard an SEC player put together a complete sentence while being interviewed after the game?
Just thought I'd ask. (Tim Tebow does well....althought I'm not an SEC fan there is no denying he is a gentleman.)
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A playoff system taking the top 16 settles this once and for all.
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Has anyone in this topic heard an SEC player put together a complete sentence while being interviewed after the game?
Just thought I'd ask. (Tim Tebow does well....althought I'm not an SEC fan there is no denying he is a gentleman.)
Hajo, are you an Ohio St. fan? I'm thinking you were.
If you are you'll have to scroll down to the bottom of this chart.
Regardless, bringing up how stupid the players are in another conference is always a last resort when your conference is not winning. When your Buckeyes are 0-9 all time in Bowls vs. the SEC I can understand you are reaching...when your graduation rate is bottom 10 it sounds kind of foolish.
2008 NCAA Graduation Success Rate for BCS Football Programs
1. Notre Dame 94%
2. Stanford 93
T3. BC 92
T3. Duke 92
T3. Northwestern 92
6. Vanderbilt 91
7. Wake Forest 83
8. Texas Tech 79
T9. Baylor 78
T9. Nebraska 78
T9. UNC 78
T9. Penn State 78
T13. UConn 77
T13. Indiana 77
T15. Colorado 75
T15. Iowa 75
T15. Syracuse 75
T15. Virginia Tech 75
19. Cincinnati 73
T20. Illinois 70
T20. Michigan 70
T20. Miami 70
T20. Rutgers 70
24. Florida State 69
T25. Clemson 68
T25. Florida 68
T25. Maryland 68
T25. Wash State 68
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T29. Kansas State 67
T29. Pitt 67
31. Virginia 66
T32. South Carolina 65
T32. Washington 65
T34. Oregon State 64
T34. Ole Miss 63
T34. Miss State 63
T34. Purdue 63
T34. West Virginia 63
T34. Wisconsin 63
T40. Okla State 62
T40. UCLA 62
42. Arizona State 60
T43. N.C. State 59
T43. Missouri 59
45. Louisville 58
46. Auburn 57
T47. Kentucky 56
T47. Texas A&M 56
T47. South Florida 56
T50. Alabama 55
T50. Iowa State 55
T52. LSU 54
T52. Tennessee 54
T52. USC 54
T55. Cal 53
T55. Oregon 53
T55. Kansas 53
58. Ohio State 52
T58. Arkansas 52
T60. Minnesota 51
T60. Michigan State 51
62. Texas 50
T63. Georgia 48
T63. Georgia Tech 48
65. Oklahoma 46
66. Arizona 41
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LOL , I didn't realize they were mine.
I guess I thought you claimed Texas and thus were a Big12 fan....
HOOK EM !
(http://www.connectamarillo.com/uploadedImages/kvii/Sports/Stories/Longhorns%20Logo.jpg?w=226&h=170&aspect=nostretch)
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Fiesta Bowl = :huh
WHY? Still cant believe they screwed up so bad. I knew they would do it, but I still hoped they wouldnt.
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Hajo, are you an Ohio St. fan? I'm thinking you were.
If you are you'll have to scroll down to the bottom of this chart.
Regardless, bringing up how stupid the players are in another conference is always a last resort when your conference is not winning. When your Buckeyes are 0-9 all time in Bowls vs. the SEC I can understand you are reaching...when your graduation rate is bottom 10 it sounds kind of foolish.
2008 NCAA Graduation Success Rate for BCS Football Programs
1. Notre Dame 94%
2. Stanford 93
T3. BC 92
T3. Duke 92
T3. Northwestern 92
6. Vanderbilt 91
7. Wake Forest 83
8. Texas Tech 79
T9. Baylor 78
T9. Nebraska 78
T9. UNC 78
T9. Penn State 78
T13. UConn 77
T13. Indiana 77
T15. Colorado 75
T15. Iowa 75
T15. Syracuse 75
T15. Virginia Tech 75
19. Cincinnati 73
T20. Illinois 70
T20. Michigan 70
T20. Miami 70
T20. Rutgers 70
24. Florida State 69
T25. Clemson 68
T25. Florida 68
T25. Maryland 68
T25. Wash State 68
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T29. Kansas State 67
T29. Pitt 67
31. Virginia 66
T32. South Carolina 65
T32. Washington 65
T34. Oregon State 64
T34. Ole Miss 63
T34. Miss State 63
T34. Purdue 63
T34. West Virginia 63
T34. Wisconsin 63
T40. Okla State 62
T40. UCLA 62
42. Arizona State 60
T43. N.C. State 59
T43. Missouri 59
45. Louisville 58
46. Auburn 57
T47. Kentucky 56
T47. Texas A&M 56
T47. South Florida 56
T50. Alabama 55
T50. Iowa State 55
T52. LSU 54
T52. Tennessee 54
T52. USC 54
T55. Cal 53
T55. Oregon 53
T55. Kansas 53
58. Ohio State 52
T58. Arkansas 52
T60. Minnesota 51
T60. Michigan State 51
62. Texas 50
T63. Georgia 48
T63. Georgia Tech 48
65. Oklahoma 46
66. Arizona 41
Well, they are above Texas and Oklahoma so i guess that is a plus.
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Also one more thing
PAC10 is bowls least year
5-0.
Once more in English please. :confused:
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That's Engrish
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There is just no talking with the Pac-10 fanboys in a logical manner; there teams will never come and play the same type and quality of opponents and coaches week in and week out that the SEC does or for that matter the type that the Big-12 South does. Wins and Losses count but when you watch teams that are really good you get an understanding that football isn't about putting 40+ up on the board by both teams and then hoping that you get the last possession of the game so you can win. That is the type of football played on the West Coast and it just doesn't work week in/week out here in the SEC.
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I guess I thought you claimed Texas and thus were a Big12 fan....
You just don't know when to quit do you? :lol
I am a fan. I don't own them coach them or play for them so I can only support them not take ownership or credit for their achievements or failures especially a whole friggin conference. Unlike yourself.
The SEC has been in and won 4 of the last 6 BCS NCGs, I am sick of seeing Big10 and Big12 teams lose to us.
Wow, you're either an uberfanboimaximus or the Athletic Director of the SEC. Since you don't live in an SEC state... I'm going to assume the former an over active fanboi riding the high tide of a great record earned by others while claiming ownership of it and smugly blowing his own horn. Like I said in the last post you really should follow your own advice.
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I am a fan. I don't own them coach them or play for them so I can only support them not take ownership or credit for their achievements or failures especially a whole friggin conference. Unlike yourself.
Wow, you're either an uberfanboimaximus or the Athletic Director of the SEC. Since you don't live in an SEC state... I'm going to assume the former an over active fanboi . Like I said in the last post you really should follow your own advice.
As far as claiming I have had anything to do with the success of the SEC in any way, please show the quote where I have done that. Yes, I live in Texas. I attended LSU. Now, in addition to telling me that I should not have an opinion on these players because I never accomplished what they have at the college level, you are telling me that living in a state other than the school I root for makes me and "over active Fanboi riding the high tide of a great record earned by others while claiming ownership of it and smugly blowing his own horn"
You just don't know when to quit do you? :lol
I quoted your Hook 'em and Texas emblem post because we are in a college football thread, and putting up an emblem and regular school saying usually would indicate that you are a fan of that team. When I applied that label to you, you acted as if I pulled that out of the air.
As far as you go, I'll keep defending myself as long as you attack me for having an opinion, or as long as you make claims you can't support. It's really not that difficult.
Again, get over yourself. Telling me that I must be an over active fanbio because I don't live in my schools state is one of the stupidest things I have seen on this forum.
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What football player has to graduate? Ohio State owns the record for the most 1st round picks in the NFL draft and owns the single draft record for 1st round picks in a single draft.
Can you say millionaires?
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What football player has to graduate? Ohio State owns the record for the most 1st round picks in the NFL draft and owns the single draft record for 1st round picks in a single draft.
Can you say millionaires?
Congrats on all the picks. That's a pretty awsome record. Too bad it hasn't helped a bowl record of no wins against SEC teams...0. I know that sucks having to hear that again, but it is what it is.
As far as helping the SEC players out with their speech and life in general, I want to thank one of Ohio State's 2003 NC hero's who is blogging from his cell. http://mauriceclarett.wordpress.com/ :aok
I especially enjoy the following post...
Human I Am
Hypocrite I am not but human I am. Contradicting I am not but human I am. I have one physical life to live and I promise my family everyday that I will never burden them with another trip like this. I love my little girl and her smile. I love my girlfriend and her smile. I love my mother, brothers’ (both in Ohio and Cali) smiles also. We are all special in our own way. I believe that I have the ability to put an umbrella over all of their heads so they can rest and live easy. I once believed it would be through my physical abilities. I now believe that it will solely be through my mental and natural abilities. I’m not scared, just serious.
The Pride of THE OHIO ST. 2003 nat'l champs!! :rofl
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I quoted your Hook 'em and Texas emblem post because we are in a college football thread, and putting up an emblem and regular school saying usually would indicate that you are a fan of that team. When I applied that label to you, you acted as if I pulled that out of the air.
As far as you go, I'll keep defending myself as long as you attack me for having an opinion, or as long as you make claims you can't support. It's really not that difficult.
I don't get where you think I acted as if it was pulled it out of thin air when I admit in two post that UT is my favorite football team. I just don't take credit to be part of the team or a whole conference by saying US. After all the chest thumping and berating of schools and teams you've done here saying I'm attacking you is pure gold.
Again, get over yourself.
Again if you'd follow your own advice you'd make a much better debater and less angry.
Telling me that I must be an over active fanbio because I don't live in my schools state is one of the stupidest things I have seen on this forum.
Obviously you haven't looked at your own avatar. ;)
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I got my tickets to the Orange bowl. Anyone else gong?
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Hajo, are you an Ohio St. fan? I'm thinking you were.
If you are you'll have to scroll down to the bottom of this chart.
Regardless, bringing up how stupid the players are in another conference is always a last resort when your conference is not winning. When your Buckeyes are 0-9 all time in Bowls vs. the SEC I can understand you are reaching...when your graduation rate is bottom 10 it sounds kind of foolish.
2008 NCAA Graduation Success Rate for BCS Football Programs
1. Notre Dame 94%
2. Stanford 93
T3. BC 92
T3. Duke 92
T3. Northwestern 92
6. Vanderbilt 91
7. Wake Forest 83
8. Texas Tech 79
T9. Baylor 78
T9. Nebraska 78
T9. UNC 78
T9. Penn State 78
T13. UConn 77
T13. Indiana 77
T15. Colorado 75
T15. Iowa 75
T15. Syracuse 75
T15. Virginia Tech 75
19. Cincinnati 73
T20. Illinois 70
T20. Michigan 70
T20. Miami 70
T20. Rutgers 70
24. Florida State 69
T25. Clemson 68
T25. Florida 68
T25. Maryland 68
T25. Wash State 68
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T29. Kansas State 67
T29. Pitt 67
31. Virginia 66
T32. South Carolina 65
T32. Washington 65
T34. Oregon State 64
T34. Ole Miss 63
T34. Miss State 63
T34. Purdue 63
T34. West Virginia 63
T34. Wisconsin 63
T40. Okla State 62
T40. UCLA 62
42. Arizona State 60
T43. N.C. State 59
T43. Missouri 59
45. Louisville 58
46. Auburn 57
T47. Kentucky 56
T47. Texas A&M 56
T47. South Florida 56
T50. Alabama 55
T50. Iowa State 55
T52. LSU 54
T52. Tennessee 54
T52. USC 54
T55. Cal 53
T55. Oregon 53
T55. Kansas 53
58. Ohio State 52
T58. Arkansas 52
T60. Minnesota 51
T60. Michigan State 51
62. Texas 50
T63. Georgia 48
T63. Georgia Tech 48
65. Oklahoma 46
66. Arizona 41
Interesting.... has nothing to do with what team is good or bad though. I could see where a good team could be on bottom.... simply because several of their "good" players were picked up by the NFL. In that case they would not necessarily graduate at that time.
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Shuffler, of course saying that one schools players are uneducated is meaningless in an argument about the schools ability on the field. The point that Hajo made about SEC players not being able to speak in complete sentences implies a jab at the education of the players. Since Hajo brought that up I thought I'd point out that his favorite team isn't interested in education either. In fact, Jim Tressel teams are notorious low graduation rates.
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talking football.....Jim Tressel won 4 national championships at my Alma Mater I believe...or was it 3....to old to remember.(Youngstown State University)
One at Ohio State and played in two more championship games since. At least OSU gets to the Championship game.
Congrats to all the BCS teams. Now....let's have a playoff! How many teams in DivI have made 3 championship games since 2K besides Florida, LSU, and OSU, USC, and Texas?
Since I believe there are 115 teams in Div I. that means quite a few can't get close to the championship game.
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There is just no talking with the Pac-10 fanboys in a logical manner; there teams will never come and play the same type and quality of opponents and coaches week in and week out that the SEC does or for that matter the type that the Big-12 South does. Wins and Losses count but when you watch teams that are really good you get an understanding that football isn't about putting 40+ up on the board by both teams and then hoping that you get the last possession of the game so you can win. That is the type of football played on the West Coast and it just doesn't work week in/week out here in the SEC.
It's not the Pac-10, but Boise State posted an offer to play ANY big conference team in their stadium without a return game at home in Boise.
None of those SEC, Big 12 or any eastern conference team took em up on the offer. Furthermore, the Pac-10 has the most top 25 ranked teams in the nation at 5. That's HALF the conference ranked in the top 25, and when they beat up on each other "week in week out" that's not easy to do. Factor in that this isn't a preseason, means nothing poll of rankings, it's the POST season rankings. All games played. STILL 5 teams ranked in the top 25. SEC has 3. So you can't really complain that they don't play "quality" opponents.
Again, throw everyone into a 16 team playoff....and we'll see who comes out on top. It's really the only way to settle any kind of debate on quality of team. Beyond that, I think throwing those non-conference games into a hat, and pulling opponents at random might do some awesome good. Get those east coast teams playing some west coast teams.
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Again, throw everyone into a 16 team playoff....and we'll see who comes out on top. It's really the only way to settle any kind of debate on quality of team. Beyond that, I think throwing those non-conference games into a hat, and pulling opponents at random might do some awesome good. Get those east coast teams playing some west coast teams.
Only way to really find out.
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Predictions for next year....
Texas A&M and Nebraska at the top of the Big 12 conference. - Well, if A&M gets some defense :) and Nebraska get's some offense. :)
they are total oppsosites - Texas A&M ranked 5th NCAA FBS total offense, 107th total defense. Nebraska ranked 102nd total offense, 9th defense.
Maybe they should combine the two teams? :)
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"Texas A&M and Nebraska at the top of the Big 12 conference. - Well, if A&M gets some defense and Nebraska get's some offense."
With Suh gone, Nebraska's defense will take a big step back. (listed as a Senior) They showed some signs of life this year, but they won't get past the Big 12 South next year either. If A&M get to the top of the Big 12 South then they should beat Nebraska. The January 2011 championship game will probably be Big 12 vs SEC.. again.
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"I got my tickets to the Orange bowl. Anyone else gong?"
I wish! If Iowa was going to the Rose Bowl I was going. Even if I had to sell blood. But since its Miami, I bought a big TV to watch. Going out to get my Bowl shirts today. (if there's any left!)
Have fun! Wish I was going.
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"It's not the Pac-10, but Boise State posted an offer to play ANY big conference team in their stadium without a return game at home in Boise"
How many ranked teams did BSU play this year? 1? If Boise State wants to play with the big boys then they need to get out of the WAC. Nevada, Fresno State, Idaho, Hawaii, Louisanna Tech, Utah State, New Mexico State, San Jose State. Pleeze. If they don't want to get out of their conference contract they should push the WAC to get an agreement play their out of conference games against a major conference. For example Big Ten-MAC.
Boise is doing a lot of talk. But that is about it. They try to make it sound like they can't get an out of conference game. So teams will play USC, Ohio State, Georgia, LSU, Texas.. but they avoid Boise State? Nevada managed to play Notre Dame, Colorado State and Missouri. But Boise State's so good and they have to play teams like Bowling Green? Cal-Davis? Boise will schedule one or two decent teams then whine about how they are not respected.
Things are bit different when the top half of your conference is ranked in the top 20 every year. Boise State's championship expectations would be non existant in a major conference.
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Maybe they should combine the two teams? :)
Why would you want to ruin a perfectly good Corn Husker? :D
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Predictions for next year....
Texas A&M and Nebraska at the top of the Big 12 conference. - Well, if A&M gets some defense :) and Nebraska get's some offense. :)
they are total oppsosites - Texas A&M ranked 5th NCAA FBS total offense, 107th total defense. Nebraska ranked 102nd total offense, 9th defense.
Maybe they should combine the two teams? :)
Texas A&M Cornhuskers.... :eek:
Nebraska Aggies.... :bolt:
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Mark Ingrem wins the heisman.
Cough SEC Cough cough :D
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Mark Ingrem wins the heisman.
Cough SEC Cough cough :D
Good, I didn't care as long as it wasn't crybaby Tebow
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Mark Ingrem wins the heisman.
Cough SEC Cough cough :D
Well deserved.
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Good, I didn't care as long as it wasn't crybaby Tebow
Ingram cried when he won the award.
Both of these guys are amazing college atheletes. They have a lot invested to reach these points and pour their hearts into it. Tears? Big deal.
Unless you cry as much as Dick Vermiel. :D
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Come on...most people have the utmost respect for Tebow.
Honestly he has to be one of my favorite college athletes playing with passion and 100% effort on every play as if it was his last. That man is a naturally born leader who does all he can to try to win games.
That Alabama game he did what he could.
Honestly most athletes cry at one point in their life whether it is losing a championship game or a major event, it happens.
Tebow crying because he lost the SEC championship game is a legit reason as it meant his hopes for a national championship were done. Happens all the way down in the high school level losing against major rival on turkey day or losing in the playoffs.
Personally I thought it should have been Gerhart or Suh to win the award but that was just me. Gerhart carried Stanford and he was more consistent than Ingram. Suh was the Nebraska defense and took on double teams like it was easy. 80+ tackles is what you see from a linebacker not a defensive tackle.