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Title: our next jappanese plane
Post by: shifty95 on October 06, 2009, 06:44:12 PM
well, since we need some new jap (go ahead, sue me) planes, i figured that these would be the top three most needed jap planes.

J2M3 Raiden: face it, folks, we need a new interceptor, the niki aint gonna cut it anymore, atleast for me. 4X 20mm cannons

Ki-43: the only thing its got going for it is it's manuverability, but its BADLY needed for scenarios. 2X 12.7mm machine guns on the type IIIa

G4M: i think that alot of us would like a new japanese "heavy" bomber. similar to the Ki-67, can hold 1000kg. of bombs. 2X 7.7mm machine guns in the nose, 2X 7.7mm machine guns in a top turret, 1X 20mm cannon in the tail section.

Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: Spikes on October 06, 2009, 06:50:15 PM
Niki seems to cut it for everyone else...
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: Karnak on October 06, 2009, 06:51:18 PM
Ki-43-III is pretty late.  Would be better to get the Ki-43-II if just one Ki-43 were added or a Ki-43-I and a Ki-43-II.  All Ki-43s had two 12.7mm machine guns from the Ki-43-Ic through the Ki-43-IIIa.  The very rare Ki-43-IIIb had two 20mm cannons.

Niki seems to cut it for everyone else...
J2M3 or Ki-44-II would both be nice additions to the planeset.  They both climb faster and are faster than the N1K2-J, though they can't turn as well.

One thing to be aware of on the J2M3 is that it had two Type 99 Model I cannons (as on the A6M2) and two Type 99 Model II cannons (as on the A6M5b or N1K2-J), but the rarer J2M3a had four Type 99 Model II cannons.
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: shifty95 on October 06, 2009, 06:51:36 PM
Niki seems to cut it for everyone else...

alright, well, i never get the hang of it. i think the J2M3 would be alot better, but thats just my opinion
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: shifty95 on October 06, 2009, 06:53:00 PM
Ki-43-III is pretty late.  Would be better to get the Ki-43-II if just one Ki-43 were added or a Ki-43-I and a Ki-43-II.  All Ki-43s had two 12.7mm machine guns from the Ki-43-Ic through the Ki-43-IIIa.  The very rare Ki-43-IIIb had two 20mm cannons.

oh, the sites i went too said that early model Ki-43's had 7.7mm machine guns, and the type IIIa had 12.7mm guns
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: Karnak on October 06, 2009, 06:58:34 PM
oh, the sites i went too said that early model Ki-43's had 7.7mm machine guns, and the type IIIa had 12.7mm guns

Ki-43-Ia: Two Type 80 7.7mm machine guns
Ki-43-Ib: One Type 80 7.7mm machine gun and one Ho-105? 12.7mm machine gun
Ki-43-Ic: Two Ho-105? 12.7mm machine guns
Ki-43-II, all models: Two Ho-105? 12.7mm machine guns and a rack for a 250kg bomb under each wing
Ki-43-IIIa: Two Ho-105? 12.7mm machine guns and a rack for a 250kg bomb under each wing
Ki-43-IIIb: Two Ho-5 20mm cannons and a rack for a 250kg bomb under each wing
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: AirFlyer on October 06, 2009, 10:26:38 PM
I'm still holding out for the A6M to be updated but I wouldn't mind seeing an Oscar.
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: Saxman on October 06, 2009, 10:41:02 PM
Ki-43, Ki-45, and G4M are probably the three top priorities for the Japanese plane set. This would give Japan its main Army fighter for most of the war, a heavy fighter, (which Japan lacks but all the other sets have, if you count the 110 for the Italians since they used a lot of German iron, and the various lend-lease heavy aircraft for the VVS) and its main frontline bomber. The fact that the Ki-43 and G4M aren't part of the plane set ALREADY is actually quite criminal.
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: Stalwart on October 07, 2009, 02:33:23 AM
G4M  +1

Ki-43  +1   (maybe with an earlier model variant +1)
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: Boozeman on October 07, 2009, 04:04:30 AM
I'd really like to see the some japanese interceptors in the game!

So, bring on the J2M and while we are at it, the Ki44 too.
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: 1Boner on October 07, 2009, 07:37:17 PM




















KI-84lb please.

 :noid
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: Shifty on October 08, 2009, 06:58:13 AM
I'd like to see the set filled out with Oscar, Jack, Tojo, Nick, and Betty, as soon as possible.
With a couple of versions of Oscar.  :aok
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: Hap on October 08, 2009, 07:32:55 AM
G4M: i think that alot of us would like a new japanese "heavy" bomber. similar to the Ki-67, can hold 1000kg. of bombs. 2X 7.7mm machine guns in the nose, 2X 7.7mm machine guns in a top turret, 1X 20mm cannon in the tail section.


i'm all for more planes.  did japan have a heavy bomber?  something that could carry 6k or there abouts?
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: wild949 on October 08, 2009, 12:29:50 PM
How about the D4Y Judy
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: shifty95 on October 08, 2009, 01:36:35 PM
i'm all for more planes.  did japan have a heavy bomber?  something that could carry 6k or there abouts?

by "heavy" i meant something bigger than a val or a zero carrying a bomb.
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: Shifty on October 08, 2009, 04:22:19 PM
How about the D4Y Judy

Yes both Judy and Jill. :aok
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: Karnak on October 08, 2009, 04:25:01 PM
by "heavy" i meant something bigger than a val or a zero carrying a bomb.
Only the H8K2 'Emily'.

Could carry eight 250kg bombs or two 1600kg bombs or two torpedoes.
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: Sabre on October 08, 2009, 04:35:49 PM
Ki-43 gets my vote, for sure.  One of my favorite planes back in my Warbirds days for lifting from a field under assault.  I remember one fight where I went toe-to-toe with an F4F and and F4U.  I didn't shoot either one down, but sent one home with a smoking engine and the other one I think left out of pure frustration (and maybe out of ammo?).  Landed with 2 rounds of ammo left and a vastly expanded opinion of myself. :aok  Of course, that lasted all of about two minutes; just long enough to re-up and get smoked before the wheels were fully retracted.
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: wild949 on October 09, 2009, 10:43:07 AM
Hey didnt japan have a four engined bomber? Or did japan only have two engine bombers?
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: shifty95 on October 09, 2009, 02:24:25 PM
Hey didnt japan have a four engined bomber? Or did japan only have two engine bombers?

i think they actually did at one point, but it saw so little service, it wouldnt even be worth considering
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: Hap on October 09, 2009, 03:36:10 PM
Only the H8K2 'Emily'.

Could carry eight 250kg bombs or two 1600kg bombs or two torpedoes.

8 x 500 lbs+  that would be nice
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: Enker on October 09, 2009, 04:56:07 PM
by "heavy" i meant something bigger than a val or a zero carrying a bomb.
The Japanese considered the Ki-67 and G4M to be heavy bombers.
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: Karnak on October 09, 2009, 05:21:13 PM
Mitsubishi wanted to make the G4M a four engined, heavy bomber with protected fuel systems and armor, but the IJN insisted that it be a twin engined bomber.  Mitsubishi repeatedly told them that what they wanted out of it could not be done effectively on two engines.
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: Saxman on October 09, 2009, 05:23:07 PM
I thought there was a four-engine Japanese bomber in Aces of the Pacific, but it's been SO long since I've played that.
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: Karnak on October 09, 2009, 05:25:59 PM
I thought there was a four-engine Japanese bomber in Aces of the Pacific, but it's been SO long since I've played that.
Maybe the G8N 'Rita', but she never saw service as she was way, way too late.
G8M 'Rita' (http://www.aviastar.org/air/japan/nakajima_g8n.php)
(http://www.aviastar.org/pictures/japan/nakajima_g8n.gif)

Or maybe you remember shooting at H8K 'Emily' flying boats, which were four engined.
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: Saxman on October 09, 2009, 06:22:20 PM
I know AotP had PBYs, but I can't remember exactly whether one of the Japanese flying boats was there.
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: AirFlyer on October 09, 2009, 06:32:03 PM
Same with the G10N, the possibilities of that bomber would of been interesting though. Not sure what your gonna do with 20,000Kg of bombs but the buff guys would find something.
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: HighTone on October 10, 2009, 12:10:21 AM
The Ki-43 and the G4M would be my first choices....followed by the Ki-84-Ib.


But any early to mid war Japanese plane would be great :aok
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: vonKrimm on October 10, 2009, 04:05:11 AM
Just to be different: a5m "Claude"     :airplane:

Crew: One
Length: 7.55 m (24 ft 9¼ in)
Wingspan: 11.0 m (36 ft 1 in)
Height: 3.20 m (10 ft 6 in)
Wing area: 17.8 m² (191.6 ft²)
Empty weight: 1,216 kg (2,681 lb)
Loaded weight: 1,705 kg (3,759 lb)
Max takeoff weight: 1,822 kg[13] (4,017 lb)
Powerplant: 1× Nakajima Kotobuki 41 9-cylinder radial engine, 585 kW (785 hp) at 3,000 m (9,840 ft)

Performance
Maximum speed: 440 km/h (237 knots, 273 mph) at 3,000 m (9,840 ft)[13]   :old:
Range: 1,200 km (649 NM, 746 mi)
Service ceiling: 9,800 m (32,150 ft)
Rate of climb: m/s (ft/min)
Wing loading: 95.8.7 kg/m² (19.6 lb/ft²)  :x
Power/mass: 0.34 kW/kg (0.21 hp/lb)

Armament
Guns: 2 × 7.7 mm Type 97 machine guns(0.303 in) fuselage-mounted machine guns

 :neener:
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: Saxman on October 10, 2009, 09:32:47 AM
Nope. I've mentioned the A5M before as well.

It would be an interesting addition, although the only place she saw any significant amount of combat was in China, and even then was very quickly replaced. It would be interesting, though.
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: Wmaker on October 10, 2009, 10:49:42 AM
The Ki-43 and the G4M would be my first choices.

Yep. those are the obvious first choises IMO. Followed by a D4Y and KI-44.
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: wild949 on October 10, 2009, 11:04:55 AM
D4Y Is very easily killed you know, but hey if they add kamakazi attacks then theres a use for the Judy. lol
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: Saxman on October 10, 2009, 11:43:25 AM
D4Y Is very easily killed you know, but hey if they add kamakazi attacks then theres a use for the Judy. lol

Don't even think of bringing THAT up again.
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: wild949 on October 10, 2009, 11:53:10 AM
lol
Title: Re: our next jappanese plane
Post by: Karnak on October 10, 2009, 04:36:39 PM
D4Y Is very easily killed you know, but hey if they add kamakazi attacks then theres a use for the Judy. lol
D4Y was, by a large margin, the fastest dive bomber of WWII.  Given that speed is a bomber's best defense, it seems like it would be the hardest dive bomber to stop.