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Title: shore batteries
Post by: texastc316 on October 09, 2009, 02:36:39 AM
I would like it possible to bump people out of shore batteries. Use rank like the CVs. Ive seen it too many times someone in the shore battery at a field not shooting, CV almost ashore, in range, in full view of battery, and not a shot fired for hours on end (ok maybe a stretch). Not saying shennannigans, just saying. (SHENNANNIGANS!!!)  fire away.
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: ACE on October 09, 2009, 06:42:12 AM
lol yeah  :aok to many spies sit in the shore bats
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: waystin2 on October 09, 2009, 07:12:19 AM
I say no to the rank idea Texas.  However I would love to see icons above the shore battery, so heavy ridicule weapons can be employed against offenders.
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: texastc316 on October 09, 2009, 12:37:12 PM
Waystin, I like the way you think.
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: stroker71 on October 09, 2009, 01:21:15 PM
I am not even sure the person in the SB appears on local vox.  Process of elimination would tell who's in the SB if it did.  But I agree icon showing who's in the SB would help and I also agree that you should be able to kick them out.  I usually ask who is in it and if they are not shooting offer help. 

DuHasst
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: bravoa8 on October 09, 2009, 01:45:54 PM
I am not even sure the person in the SB appears on local vox.
yeah they appear on VOX.
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: Spikes on October 09, 2009, 01:47:36 PM
I am not even sure the person in the SB appears on local vox.  Process of elimination would tell who's in the SB if it did.  But I agree icon showing who's in the SB would help and I also agree that you should be able to kick them out.  I usually ask who is in it and if they are not shooting offer help.  

DuHasst
I've thought about the elimination deal, but can't when there is 20-30 people like there usually is defending vs a CV.
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: macdp51 on October 09, 2009, 02:06:57 PM
Don't bump em , cuz I would be really pissed off to get bumped after ranging CV - however we do need to know who is there, for sure. I have watched it happen CV in range, shore battery occupied but not shooting.Could it be they have gone "afk" if so time limit the occupnacy if no movement - your out. Just a thought. :cool:
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: mbailey on October 09, 2009, 02:21:06 PM
I say no to the rank idea Texas.  However I would love to see icons above the shore battery, so heavy ridicule weapons can be employed against offenders.

<-- Note to self, keep myself on Waystins good side.


I gotta agree w/Texas, i like the way you think  :D

Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: kvuo75 on October 09, 2009, 03:37:28 PM
However I would love to see icons above the shore battery, so heavy ridicule weapons can be employed against offenders.

for soft guns too  :aok

Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: Enker on October 09, 2009, 04:43:20 PM
I disagree with the OP. Keep in mind that the Shore Battery has a VERY long reload time. And what may seem like a long time to the pilots in the air seems like an eternity to the gunner who almost has the CV ranged. (True story, I got chewed out for not reloading the SB fast enough  :()
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: OOZ662 on October 09, 2009, 04:51:44 PM
Those of us experienced in SB usage certainly know that people "fall asleep" in them rather often, though. As another point, I don't usually fire even as fast as the gun reloads in order to more easily track my fall of shot.

I agree, though; friendly icons for manned guns. I'd love to see them on all manned positions, but that brings about the issue of the CV's guns...a pool of icons flooding the deck would make landing interesting. So, I dunno.
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: E25280 on October 09, 2009, 04:55:26 PM
Because I am too lazy to type all this out again:

http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,224948.0.html

Its always funny when the cv comes in close to a base, nobody can ever get in the shore battery to take command.  

Example from last night Titanic map:
CV is well with-in range and turret angle, shore battery is manned with an unknown player who will not shoot.  CV proceeds to circle in same spot for over 1/2hr. in front of SB.  Amazingly who ever was in the shore battery was not answering. Simple name tag will work wonders.
And you know for sure he wasn't shooting?  Perhaps it was a new guy who was simply not adept?

A squaddie once started ranting and raving about not being able to get into the shore battery, that the goofball in there wasn't even shooting, how unfair that was, etc. etc.  Went on for about a good five minutes.  It was quite comical . . . especially since I was the one in the shore battery, and had gotten about six hits on the CV while he was ranting about how I wasn't even shooting.

Now, it may have been better for us if I had gotten out and let him sink the CV, but how am I supposed to get any better if I don't practice?  Besides, it was fun to hear him sputter . . .

I'll add that do not think kicking anyone out of a SB or field gun using rank or any other means is a good idea in the least bit.  New people need to learn somehow.  Experience is the best way to learn.  By kicking someone out, you are merely disincenting them from ever trying again and making an already frustrating process (learning) even more frustrating.
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: 100Coogn on October 09, 2009, 06:20:49 PM
Lot's of people on here wouldn't have been able to develop their gunnery skills, if somebody was kicking them out of the SB, just because they were idle for while.  Maybe there was another CV out in the distance he was lining up on, who knows.  I've seen that happen before. 
I understand that the immediate threat is the CV nearest shore, but who knows what he was doing.  Maybe just learning.

Coogan
 
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: texastc316 on October 09, 2009, 06:30:41 PM
In the latest incident, the cv was almost icon range from shore for an hour, not worried about SB, SB not firing. It wasn't some one learning, it wasn't some one even trying. Not nearly the first time. I know there are times when some one isntr getting job done and that is different. But several times it is takin by someone not exaclty on the same side.
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: LCCajun on October 09, 2009, 06:33:48 PM
I've thought about the elimination deal, but can't when there is 20-30 people like there usually is defending vs a CV.

You must not fly rook 20-30 defending will never happen lol.
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: 100Coogn on October 09, 2009, 06:41:18 PM
Ooops,  didn't know those details before I posted.   :cheers:
That's a whole 'nother scenario there.  Sounds like that was intentional.

Coogan   
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: jay on October 09, 2009, 06:59:13 PM
give knights a chance they will start a furball with a cv no offence to any fellow knights  :noid
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: donna43 on October 31, 2009, 07:30:08 PM
Goes to show ya that we need name Icons over shore batteries found out this afternoon Rooks tied up SB's while cv was close (knit fields) and captured and it  happened 5 times.  :furious
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: choker41 on October 31, 2009, 08:35:58 PM
This is a legit fix to all manned positions. I hope HTC will review this and try to make this happen. I would love to know who is gunning with me or who is defending base with me. Does the person in SB show up in films?  I've never checked it out.
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: AWwrgwy on November 01, 2009, 11:21:43 AM
Does the person in SB show up in films?  I've never checked it out.

AFAIK they don't even show up in the "Range Channel" box live.


wrongway
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: Simba on November 01, 2009, 03:18:07 PM
<wakes up from a good snooze in an airfield gun-pit>

Wassat? Fall asleep in a gun battery? Who? Me? No, never . . .

<resumes snoring like Alice's dormouse>

Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz . . .
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: guncrasher on November 01, 2009, 11:18:28 PM
I have always been suspicious about how some people manage to bring the cv right between two shore batteries and neither can hit it or manage to turn cv just 100 ft short of sb range.  is there a map of all the fields indicating the sb ranges, etc?

semp
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: OOZ662 on November 02, 2009, 07:08:58 AM
There is one map that marks the SB firing arcs with PT spawns.
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: RTHolmes on November 02, 2009, 07:44:58 AM
Goes to show ya that we need name Icons over shore batteries found out this afternoon Rooks tied up SB's while cv was close (knit fields) and captured and it  happened 5 times.  :furious

how did you find out?
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: guncrasher on November 03, 2009, 08:28:22 PM
There is one map that marks the SB firing arcs with PT spawns.

where are this maps?  so the rest of us noobs can also know

semp
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: OOZ662 on November 03, 2009, 09:03:09 PM
I don't know the name of it...it's a common MA map with lots of little islands.
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: grizz441 on November 04, 2009, 02:38:19 AM
Cheating to take a base with absolutely zero significance.  I find it hard to believe only because I can't fathom how any reasonable human being would value a cartoon base that much.
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: Stalwart on November 04, 2009, 02:41:53 AM
Idleness, in any form, should be determined by the server and automatically bumped.  :salute
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: 4deck on November 04, 2009, 08:32:04 AM
for soft guns too  :aok



Absolutely for soft guns, this way when I'm coming into a field dragging 4, I can see whose in the soft gun. And if see 8346820 in one, I'll keep going. :airplane:
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: guncrasher on November 04, 2009, 06:29:30 PM
unless 999000 was in the soft gun I would still keep going  :D

semp
Title: Re: shore batteries
Post by: The Grinch on November 06, 2009, 07:06:10 AM
I say no to the rank idea Texas.  However I would love to see icons above the shore battery, so heavy ridicule weapons can be employed against offenders.
+1  :) Or, a self destruct button that you can blow that player out of the Shore Battery barrel and back to the CV :lol
Players name would be nice on the Shore Batteries. Or when you are looking in the menu over the Shore Batteries when you are in tower, and you can see the name of the player that are in the turrets. :cheers: