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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: Nemisis on October 25, 2009, 03:29:21 PM
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There are pretty much two cults saying that each plane is better than the other. Well which is it? Now its time for you to vote on it :aok.
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There are pretty much two cults saying that each plane is better than the other. Well which is it? Now its time for you to vote on it :aok.
Find me one SAPP guy who says the P38J is 'better' than the F4U4. :lol
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Its not just the SAPP guys. In the game a lot more I think. If this is just a perception then let it die. But seems like there has to be a showdown between the Hogs and 38's sooner or later...
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The P38 is a poor fighter plane.
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On paper the F4U-4 will eat a P-38 for lunch! But it comes down to many factors with you play a game like this. Either plane could win a dogfight but chances are the F4u-4 SHOULD win!
DuHasst
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With equal pilots, the F4U-4 wins >90% of the time.
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About the only things the P-38L has on the F4U-4 is ordinance load, (10 rockets vs. 8) high-speed roll, (but not significantly) stability at stall speeds (counter-rotating props eliminating torque) and placement of the gun package (debatable which has the superior armament with only the single 20mm and only 150 rounds, but both are more than adequate). The -4 is faster, accelerates quicker, is more maneuverable and has a higher sustained rate of climb, and I'd give the F4U the clear advantage in high-speed maneuverability (except rate of roll as mentioned before). I'm not sure on zoom as I've never tested it, but I've rarely had a P-38 catch or escape me in the vertical when I'm in a -4 from a near or co-E start (that being said, the -4 is generally capable of creating a starting advantage anyway).
The 38L more evenly matches with the 1A. The 1A is faster, but the 38 gains the advantage in rate of climb and acceleration.
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There are pretty much two cults saying that each plane is better than the other. Well which is it? Now its time for you to vote on it :aok.
Funny, the only one that I've seen make such a comment has been you.
ack-ack
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The P38 is a poor fighter plane.
LOL! Probably because you're not very good in anything but a Spitfire.
ack-ack
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The "4" is a Beast. Call it what it is.
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The uber P38 can own a -4 IF you now how to fight it.
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The uber P38 can own a -4 IF you now how to fight it.
Tough thing about the Hog, especially the -4, is that there really IS no one way to fight it.
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The uber P38 can own a -4 IF the -4 doesn't know how to fight.
Fixed.
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LOL! Probably because you're not very good in anything but a Spitfire.
ack-ack
Ack-Ack,
I've flown the P38 more than enough times to know what it's capable of. I don’t magically lose all my knowledge on aerial combat manoeuvres when I jump into another plane you know. LOL!
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About the only things the P-38L has on the F4U-4 is ordinance load, (10 rockets vs. 8) high-speed roll, (but not significantly) stability at stall speeds (counter-rotating props eliminating torque) and placement of the gun package (debatable which has the superior armament with only the single 20mm and only 150 rounds, but both are more than adequate). The -4 is faster, accelerates quicker, is more maneuverable and has a higher sustained rate of climb, and I'd give the F4U the clear advantage in high-speed maneuverability (except rate of roll as mentioned before). I'm not sure on zoom as I've never tested it, but I've rarely had a P-38 catch or escape me in the vertical when I'm in a -4 from a near or co-E start (that being said, the -4 is generally capable of creating a starting advantage anyway).
I agree with everything except for the armament comment. Even though you may argue on paper that six .50s = four.50s and one 20mm, you need to remember location. the nose mounted guns in the P38 make it a much deadlier gun package.
As an avid P38 pile-it. I can say the F4U4 is a superior in a one on one fight. The P38 would be a better escort fighter because of range
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I agree with everything except for the armament comment. Even though you may argue on paper that six .50s = four.50s and one 20mm,
On paper the P-38 has more firepower than any 6x.50 cal armed fighter. 1 HS 20mm is approximately equal to a little more than 3x.50 cal.
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With equal pilots, starting at an even altitude at their max speeds for that altitude the F4U-4 should win almost every time. Of course no two pilots are equal or always flying at the top of their game so this changes rapidly when you take it off paper and apply it into the game itself.
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Tough thing about the Hog, especially the -4, is that there really IS no one way to fight it.
Yeah what i do is get the hog slow with it's flaps out. Then start the fight vertical.
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Yeah what i do is get the hog slow with it's flaps out. Then start the fight vertical.
That's REALLY dicey against a -4.
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Anytime anywhere ACE...I would like to have a shot at this one; even with me just having started back into AH I really think I could make a dent into your 38 more times than not.
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I don't know anyone who thinks the P-38 is better than a -4.
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(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff255/OOZ662/F4U4vP38L.jpg)
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Yeah what i do is get the hog slow with it's flaps out. Then start the fight vertical.
You better hope that you have a lot more energy than he does if you try.
That's REALLY dicey against a -4.
Yep.
ack-ack
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(http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/Duxford2002/Spitfires/Sampler/SpitfireMt928TopView.jpg)
This is my plane with the skin I use! Oh and did I mention I like to kill the rooks' P-38's with it? :D
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(http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/Duxford2002/Spitfires/Sampler/SpitfireMt928TopView.jpg)
This is my plane with the skin I use!
Congrats. :huh
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Congrats. :huh
No its not my plane just the one I use in the game not real life...Is that what the :huh is about?
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I understand exactly what you said. The :huh was about the fact that it's entirely irrelevant and, last I checked, not an F4U-4 or P-38L.
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I understand exactly what you said. The :huh was about the fact that it's entirely irrelevant and, last I checked, not an F4U-4 or P-38L.
Oh :lol I just saw someone say "Spitfire" so I decided to join in. :)
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There are pretty much two cults saying that each plane is better than the other. Well which is it? Now its time for you to vote on it :aok.
it depends on who is flying what.
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With equal pilots, the F4U-4 wins >90% of the time.
if i'm not mistaken. the p38 was designed as a pursuit plane, or an interceptor. it's intention(i think) was to escort bombers, defend them, and chase down bad guy bombers.
the corsair was designed as a fighter plane. it was built to turnfight.
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Yeah what i do is get the hog slow with it's flaps out. Then start the fight vertical.
i think there's a few that'll school ya in that slow fight dude.
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With equal pilots, starting at an even altitude at their max speeds for that altitude the F4U-4 should win almost every time. Of course no two pilots are equal or always flying at the top of their game so this changes rapidly when you take it off paper and apply it into the game itself.
nice quote........... but I would say, if you take 1 of the better top tier 38 pile-its and matched them against one of the better F4U-4 pile-ts.........in the game, it would come down to who made the 1st mistake.....victor goes to the one who did not.....
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(http://i236.photobucket.com/albums/ff255/OOZ662/F4U4vP38L.jpg)
Interesting, because there's entirely different climb results here:
Aces High Fighter Comparison (http://www.gonzoville.com/ahcharts/index.php?p1=f4u4&p2=p38l)
Here the F4U-4 has the advantage in rate of climb on WEP all the way up to 25k.
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I'm not sure how old the data in mine is. It was from before the F4U-4 was updated, but I wasn't sure of when that site was last updated either.
I'm rather sad that it looks like the Kitchen Utensils don't seem to support that program any more...
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well, i know i fought a corsair a few weeks ago.....and i took him vertical......dunno if i misjudged his e or not, but he hung right with me. he shot my stupid cartoon arse down too. :joystick: :airplane:
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Or you can just use HTC's own site:
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/genchart.php?p1=18&p2=54&pw=1>ype=2)
nice quote........... but I would say, if you take 1 of the better top tier 38 pile-its and matched them against one of the better F4U-4 pile-ts.........in the game, it would come down to who made the 1st mistake.....victor goes to the one who did not.....
Why? Performance data says the F4U-4 pilot could win without a mistake by either side. The P-38J/L vs. F4U-4 match isn't even interesting. The P-38 is out-climbed, out-turned (both in radius and rate), out-rolled, and out-run. Then there's the fantastic low speed qualities of the F4U with the flaps out. The dang UFO can hang nose up at a leisurely 60mph. :eek:
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Was trying to get multiple planes in one image for comparison, since HTC's images scale varies.
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i think there's a few that'll school ya in that slow fight dude.
That's the only way i know how to fight it lol any tips?
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That's the only way i know how to fight it lol any tips?
Hope the f4u pilot is worse than you... that's about it
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That's the only way i know how to fight it lol any tips?
KEEP it a little faster, try the best you can to keep him in front of your 6-9 line, and wait for a mistake. :aok
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I'm not sure how old the data in mine is. It was from before the F4U-4 was updated, but I wasn't sure of when that site was last updated either.
I'm rather sad that it looks like the Kitchen Utensils don't seem to support that program any more...
(this might not be public yet, I can't remember) but Spatula is working on an updated version....... so if it isn't out yet, I am sure it will be and will be up to date....
Or you can just use HTC's own site:
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/genchart.php?p1=18&p2=54&pw=1>ype=2)
Why? Performance data says the F4U-4 pilot could win without a mistake by either side. The P-38J/L vs. F4U-4 match isn't even interesting. The P-38 is out-climbed, out-turned (both in radius and rate), out-rolled, and out-run. Then there's the fantastic low speed qualities of the F4U with the flaps out. The dang UFO can hang nose up at a leisurely 60mph. :eek:
edit: I did not post "without a mistake from either side"........
it really does not matter looking at it on paper........ anyhow what is a mere 200 to 600 ft of climb? or 25 mph faster.or 1.2 sec degree roll rate ( <---exageration guessing, without looking it all up)........ if a top tier 38 flyer flys his plane to its strengths, and the same F4U experienced flyer does the same......it will come down to the one who screws up 1st.... usually the one who gives in to the other....... thats with both of them starting out at a max speed co-alt merge.....
if both pilots are equally competent in their respective cartoon airplanes, it will come down to who screws the pooch 1st......
classic example using to average/better than avg pilots: kappa P38L vs TC F4U(although it was a D model ) 2 to 4 fights.....we broke about even....... (sidenote: not in a set environment duel, was in the old MA, before the split )
I got to add this: this happened before some players started claiming HTC tweaked the F4U to have UBERFLAPS (<---that is only a mythical misbelief )
but have seen many instances of the same outcome above
I doubt there is 15 (maybe 20) players tops that can hang on their prop at 60 kias in the F4U-4(any F4U series )
and possibly nearly the same that are capable to do it in a P38 series...... most will stall out and go into a spin whether flat, inverted or tail type spin......
but again I am only going from my experience of what I have seen or been in.....
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KEEP it a little faster, try the best you can to keep him in front of your 3-9 line, and wait for a mistake. :aok
fixed it, unless you was pertaining to being in a left hand turn by saying 6-9 line....... :D
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KEEP it a little faster, try the best you can to keep him in front of your 6-9 line, and wait for a mistake. :aok
F4u is faster than the P38. F4u flaps deploy before the P38's flaps. F4u is more maneuverable in aces high and is forgiving at low speeds (I feel the F4u doesn't have enough torque in AH but I have no evidence to prove otherwise, so I egress)
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Raptor,
IIRC, torque effects are reduced across the board.
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(this might not be public yet, I can't remember) but Spatula is working on an updated version....... so if it isn't out yet, I am sure it will be and will be up to date....
That makes me extremely hopeful, but since their old website died entirely, I dunno where I'd find it. :D Hope they announce it on the BBS when it's done.
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fixed it, unless you was pertaining to being in a left hand turn by saying 6-9 line....... :D
HNX..THATS WHATR I MEANT
:aok
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Raptor,
IIRC, torque effects are reduced across the board.
I do not recall the above being posted, although it may have..... but for the more prominent AC types that have more pronounced Torque effect, it is easily identifyable... The 109 series, FW190 series , F4U series, typhoon/tempest come to mind quickly.... maybe not all model types of these, but as Widewing has tested and concluded with results...backing off the Throttle when in slower turns (right handed &/or left handed ) will help one negate having to fly against the Torque(Twist) like one would if at FULL THROTTLE.....which will help one obtain a better turn rate ......
YMMV.......
the hardest part to flying Aces High for most, is having the obedience of sticking with one plane type and learning its every qurk through & through, then repeating that with the same plane against every other plane type in the game.........
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This is my plane with the skin I use! Oh and did I mention I like to kill the rooks' P-38's with it? :D
You don't seem very successful in killing P-38s in your Spitfire.
ack-ack
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F4u is faster than the P38. F4u flaps deploy before the P38's flaps. F4u is more maneuverable in aces high and is forgiving at low speeds (I feel the F4u doesn't have enough torque in AH but I have no evidence to prove otherwise, so I egress)
THIS is all true...although i've not fought many corsairs from co-alt...they're usually much higher.......but if they need to make multiple passes, they're bound to make a mistake.....and in a 38, there's generally no running away. :bolt: :D
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edit: I did not post "without a mistake from either side"........
I know that. But your assertion that a mistake would decide the fight is immaterial when no mistake is necessary. In other words, God could be piloting both aircraft, and there would be a conclusive result.
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I know that. But your assertion that a mistake would decide the fight is immaterial when no mistake is necessary. In other words, God could be piloting both aircraft, and there would be a conclusive result.
Why God would pilot a P-38 I have NO idea.
:D
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Why God would pilot a P-38 I have NO idea.
:D
:lol
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THIS is all true...although i've not fought many corsairs from co-alt...they're usually much higher.......but if they need to make multiple passes, they're bound to make a mistake.....and in a 38, there's generally no running away. :bolt: :D
Even if the F4U4 makes a mistake, it out accelerates and has a higher top speed than the P38. Just saying
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Even if the F4U4 makes a mistake, it out accelerates and has a higher top speed than the P38. Just saying
i understand.
if the 38 driver is good enough to get a couple hits on the corsair driver, 90% will make another mistake, hearing the hits, and 2 mistakes in a row is often doom. :neener: :D
should also clarify....i am not one of those guys that can take advantage of others mistakes all that easily........yet. :devil
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f4u4 eats p38 for lunch. If I was fighting myself f4u4 vs p38, I would kick my own bellybutton with the f4u4. No debate. This thread sucks.
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f4u4 eats p38 for lunch. If I was fighting myself f4u4 vs p38, I would kick my own bellybutton with the f4u4. No debate. This thread sucks.
Lol, +1
Maybe I should start a Spit16 vs 190A8 thread.
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At least the 190A-8 can run away... if he's on the deck.
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/genchart.php?p1=9&p2=86&pw=1>ype=0)
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Lol, +1
Maybe I should start a Spit16 vs 190A8 thread.
I think it's a good idea. Those pesky Luftwhiners have been chomping at the bit for a showdown against the Dweebfire drivers to prove once and for all, which is the better of the two, the FW190A-8 or the Dweebfire Mk XVI.
ack-ack
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Lol, +1
Maybe I should start a Spit16 vs 190A8 thread.
n ah.......you're missing the trend.
everyone seems to want to make a XXX owns the p38.
:bolt: :noid :bolt:
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I think it's a good idea. Those pesky Luftwhiners have been chomping at the bit for a showdown against the Dweebfire drivers to prove once and for all, which is the better of the two, the FW190A-8 or the Dweebfire Mk XVI.
ack-ack
:lol
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HNX..THATS WHATR I MEANT
:aok
No that was your problem.. you been keeping them in your 6-9 line all this time. :neener:
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No that was your problem.. you been keeping them in your 6-9 line all this time. :neener:
:rofl :bolt:
mayhaps that IS my problem........ :airplane: :headscratch:
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Was trying to get multiple planes in one image for comparison, since HTC's images scale varies.
Derp, this is why you shouldn't post when you're almost asleep. :noid I'd entirely forgotten they added the ability to compare multiple planes.
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You don't seem very successful in killing P-38s in your Spitfire.
ack-ack
You haven't even seen me in a Spitfire. I haven't even seen you ingame.
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You haven't even seen me in a Spitfire. I haven't even seen you ingame.
Scores page. You can look up peoples stats in an aircraft versus an aircraft.
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Scores page. You can look up peoples stats in an aircraft versus an aircraft.
Oh... well maybe not so much on P-38's but, their easy targets most of the time.
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At least the 190A-8 can run away... if he's on the deck.
(http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/newscores/genchart.php?p1=9&p2=86&pw=1>ype=0)
Only if the 190 has a big E advantage when he decides to run. Why? Because, the Spit16 accelerates so much faster that it may run down the 190 before he can begin to pull away with his minor speed advantage. Think of it as two cars in a drag race. Often, the car with lower ET was a bit slower at the end of the quarter mile.
My regards,
Widewing
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Oh... well maybe not so much on P-38's but, their easy targets most of the time.
Except for you it seems.
ack-ack
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Except for you it seems.
ack-ack
Yep.
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Oh... well maybe not so much on P-38's but, their easy targets most of the time.
i shouldn't go here, but i will now.
if you're not successful killing p38's, how can you call em easy targets'?
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Because they are the size of a barn door? :D
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I've been killed alot by the aces of 38's while flying my F4U-4 over the time, but that's generally because I've been wasting my E by pulling too hard on the stick not knowing my plane well enough..
As I learned to manage my E better and ease down the moves I find the 38's alot easier to kill. And once u get on top of them they really have no place to go..
And I love to put a lead fire on them as they turn, they make such huge targets in the sky that makes them almost impossible to miss.. :devil
And even if they can take a beating with 2 engines and all, when u see the hits all over that large wingspan u just hold the fire for a fraction longer and u know their tail is gone. :aok :neener:
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(this might not be public yet, I can't remember) but Spatula is working on an updated version....... so if it isn't out yet, I am sure it will be and will be up to date....
edit: I did not post "without a mistake from either side"........
it really does not matter looking at it on paper........ anyhow what is a mere 200 to 600 ft of climb? or 25 mph faster.or 1.2 sec degree roll rate ( <---exageration guessing, without looking it all up)........ if a top tier 38 flyer flys his plane to its strengths, and the same F4U experienced flyer does the same......it will come down to the one who screws up 1st.... usually the one who gives in to the other....... thats with both of them starting out at a max speed co-alt merge.....
if both pilots are equally competent in their respective cartoon airplanes, it will come down to who screws the pooch 1st......
classic example using to average/better than avg pilots: kappa P38L vs TC F4U(although it was a D model ) 2 to 4 fights.....we broke about even....... (sidenote: not in a set environment duel, was in the old MA, before the split )
I got to add this: this happened before some players started claiming HTC tweaked the F4U to have UBERFLAPS (<---that is only a mythical misbelief )
but have seen many instances of the same outcome above
I doubt there is 15 (maybe 20) players tops that can hang on their prop at 60 kias in the F4U-4(any F4U series )
and possibly nearly the same that are capable to do it in a P38 series...... most will stall out and go into a spin whether flat, inverted or tail type spin......
but again I am only going from my experience of what I have seen or been in.....
It is quite easy to let the F4U-4 hang by the prop at 60mph, go full on the flaps slow the plane down, pull nose slightly up as u trottle back on full and then give it some right rudder and ailerons while u balance it. Can fly that way as long as u like if u got a steady hand on ur stick. :aok
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There's no question the F4U-4 is easily better than any P-38.
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Only if the 190 has a big E advantage when he decides to run. Why? Because, the Spit16 accelerates so much faster that it may run down the 190 before he can begin to pull away with his minor speed advantage. Think of it as two cars in a drag race. Often, the car with lower ET was a bit slower at the end of the quarter mile.
My regards,
Widewing
There's other possibilities... For instance, the two aircraft might be initially heading in opposite directions. If there's altitude below, the 190A-8 has slightly better dive acceleration to 400mph ias and retains dive speed after leveling out better than the XVI. During a high speed dive, even with the XVI's good roll rate, the 190A-8 still rolls better and can create separation with unpredictable course changes.
In other words, if escape is the only thing on your mind, getting away from a XVI in the 190A-8 isn't too difficult, but you'll have to give up that altitude you spent half a day earning. :uhoh
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The "4" is a Beast. Call it what it is.
:aok
(http://www.airventuremuseum.org/images/collection/aircraft/Chance%20Vought%20F4U%20Corsair-1.jpg)
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Because they are the size of a barn door? :D
I actually find this a bit deceptive. Yeah, sure, the P-38 takes up a lot of space in the sky, but it's also got that gigantic gaping hole in the middle between the booms. Shots that against most targets would saw off the tail section often fall into that vacuum between the tails on a P-38.
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Because they are the size of a barn door? :D
only if you cach him in a hard turn. from dead six, he's no bigger of a target than any other aircraft. :D
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I actually find this a bit deceptive. Yeah, sure, the P-38 takes up a lot of space in the sky, but it's also got that gigantic gaping hole in the middle between the booms. Shots that against most targets would saw off the tail section often fall into that vacuum between the tails on a P-38.
I've seen that happen quite a bit with verticle shots. It doesn't seem to be quite so much of a problem when its more flat shooting, but yes, it does mean the aircraft appears to be a bigger target then it actually is.
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I've seen that happen quite a bit with verticle shots. It doesn't seem to be quite so much of a problem when its more flat shooting, but yes, it does mean the aircraft appears to be a bigger target then it actually is.
i wish you guys had this much trouble hittin my 38,. :bolt:
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Really it depends on whos doing the shooting. I've seen people try to drop bombs on the bombers.... I've been HIT with a bomb while in a bomber. If they are newer they will miss more, if they have more expirence, the faster you burn....
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It is quite easy to let the F4U-4 hang by the prop at 60mph, go full on the flaps slow the plane down, pull nose slightly up as u trottle back on full and then give it some right rudder and ailerons while u balance it. Can fly that way as long as u like if u got a steady hand on ur stick. :aok
are you saying in the above quote that you are in the pure or near pure vertical?
what you describe does not sound like "hanging on the prop" in any reference of the term from my experiences.......
just saying..... :aok
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are you saying in the above quote that you are in the pure or near pure vertical?
what you describe does not sound like "hanging on the prop" in any reference of the term from my experiences.......
just saying..... :aok
i think the slowest i've had the ole 38 o doom, was around 54 or so. i wasn't going perfectly straight up though.....and i usually let her fall off to whichever side as needed.
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Why God would pilot a P-38 I have NO idea.
:D
Because he can. :t
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are you saying in the above quote that you are in the pure or near pure vertical?
what you describe does not sound like "hanging on the prop" in any reference of the term from my experiences.......
just saying..... :aok
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No, offcourse I don't mean hanging in pure vertical. I am talking about how slow you can fly the F4U-4, and still keeping it in controlled flight. I know it is possible to get the 38 down to slow speeds also, but I have not flown that so much myself to give any reference to how slow or how to fly it when really slow..
But getting the hog this slow I have done plenty of times, and it means holding the nose above the horizon yes, but not in a pure vertical. More like keeping it in a balanced flight at full flaps and full trottle but really really slow airspeed. As slow as it gets without rolling out of the sky in a speed you can maintain over time.. And holding a constant speed of 60mph is not impossible in a F4U-4, that was what I was answering.
Not really "hanging by the prop" as you mean in a vertical no..
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No, offcourse I don't mean hanging in pure vertical. I am talking about how slow you can fly the F4U-4, and still keeping it in controlled flight. I know it is possible to get the 38 down to slow speeds also, but I have not flown that so much myself to give any reference to how slow or how to fly it when really slow..
But getting the hog this slow I have done plenty of times, and it means holding the nose above the horizon yes, but not in a pure vertical. More like keeping it in a balanced flight at full flaps and full trottle but really really slow airspeed. As slow as it gets without rolling out of the sky in a speed you can maintain over time.. And holding a constant speed of 60mph is not impossible in a F4U-4, that was what I was answering.
Not really "hanging by the prop" as you mean in a vertical no..
go into the "p38 kill ratio out of whack" thread. i posted a film in there of me fighting a zeek.....and i was going vertical against him. i was pitcher over 40 degrees nose up, in complete control at 54 mph. more than once. :D :neener:
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go into the "p38 kill ratio out of whack" thread. i posted a film in there of me fighting a zeek.....and i was going vertical against him. i was pitcher over 40 degrees nose up, in complete control at 54 mph. more than once. :D :neener:
Yes, I found the film after some search. Nice ropes there CAP1! :aok
As I said I don't have much experience in any of the 38's, just barely tried them for a few sorties in DA but never kept with them for several sorties over time. Just jumped into one now and then mostly because some other dude just had owned me in one, and I wanted to do some tests on my own to see if I could do the same.. :lol
However, after all this talk about the 38 I took a testflight offline in one myself just now. Just took off and set my views first, that took some time, then I just goofed around testing how it would climb. Did that for several times, tested out different ways to roll over at the top of my imaginary rope, trying out the rudders in different ways and different speeds. All in all I find the P 38 quite fun to fly actually, much more than I remember thinking before when I tried one.. Maybe I should give it another chance and stick with it some more... :cool:
Anyway, I made an offline film of my flight from takeoff to landing. A boring testflight, only sprited up by those aaawwsome rope moves, :lol some drone kills over sea and finished off by a highspeed landing approach with some neckbreaking brakingmoves before wheels down and landing safely on the runway. ;)
It is nothing to see really, and its almost half an hour of recording and the first 5min is just me climbing from the base while setting views and stuff. But since I have never tried to upload and post a film before I want to post it anyway, just to make sure I can.. :headscratch:
Enjoy :banana: :aok
http://www.mediafire.com/?x0xgyx7ltm0 (http://www.mediafire.com/?x0xgyx7ltm0)
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Yes, I found the film after some search. Nice ropes there CAP1! :aok
As I said I don't have much experience in any of the 38's, just barely tried them for a few sorties in DA but never kept with them for several sorties over time. Just jumped into one now and then mostly because some other dude just had owned me in one, and I wanted to do some tests on my own to see if I could do the same.. :lol
However, after all this talk about the 38 I took a testflight offline in one myself just now. Just took off and set my views first, that took some time, then I just goofed around testing how it would climb. Did that for several times, tested out different ways to roll over at the top of my imaginary rope, trying out the rudders in different ways and different speeds. All in all I find the P 38 quite fun to fly actually, much more than I remember thinking before when I tried one.. Maybe I should give it another chance and stick with it some more... :cool:
Anyway, I made an offline film of my flight from takeoff to landing. A boring testflight, only sprited up by those aaawwsome rope moves, :lol some drone kills over sea and finished off by a highspeed landing approach with some neckbreaking brakingmoves before wheels down and landing safely on the runway. ;)
It is nothing to see really, and its almost half an hour of recording and the first 5min is just me climbing from the base while setting views and stuff. But since I have never tried to upload and post a film before I want to post it anyway, just to make sure I can.. :headscratch:
Enjoy :banana: :aok
http://www.mediafire.com/?x0xgyx7ltm0 (http://www.mediafire.com/?x0xgyx7ltm0)
WELL here's the funny thing.
when that fight was over, i was all full of myself, thinkin i'm mr badass, blablabla.
then i watched my own film. it appeared to me that i was flying like one of those timid dudes. i think i actually got a little pissed off at myself about the way i fought that fight, and think i most probably should have fought it differently. the problem is i don't know what else i should've or could've done.
anyway....i had only posted that there, because there was discussion about the 38's vertical performance. that's also the only reason i mentioned it to you.
and hell.....if ya jump in a 38...then i've lured another su.......eerrr...........help ed another pile-it see the fun of the ole 38 o doom. :aok :bolt:
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WELL here's the funny thing.
when that fight was over, i was all full of myself, thinkin i'm mr badass, blablabla.
then i watched my own film. it appeared to me that i was flying like one of those timid dudes. i think i actually got a little pissed off at myself about the way i fought that fight, and think i most probably should have fought it differently. the problem is i don't know what else i should've or could've done.
anyway....i had only posted that there, because there was discussion about the 38's vertical performance. that's also the only reason i mentioned it to you.
and hell.....if ya jump in a 38...then i've lured another su.......eerrr...........help ed another pile-it see the fun of the ole 38 o doom. :aok :bolt:
The only thing I wondered about watching that fight, was why the zero kept following you up there?? But that was his mistake.. :)
I will do some more testing in the 38 for sure, I have been flying hogs now for about a year or more so I guess it would not hurt to give another plane a fair chance now. And I am sure it is a fun plane to fly once you know how to handle it. I just have to get my account re opened soon, been away from the game now for quite a while, but hoping to get back in very soon now before I get too rusty. :aok
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The only thing I wondered about watching that fight, was why the zero kept following you up there?? But that was his mistake.. :)
I will do some more testing in the 38 for sure, I have been flying hogs now for about a year or more so I guess it would not hurt to give another plane a fair chance now. And I am sure it is a fun plane to fly once you know how to handle it. I just have to get my account re opened soon, been away from the game now for quite a while, but hoping to get back in very soon now before I get too rusty. :aok
i think he kept following me, because the zeek can also go very well in the veritcal, at very low speeds. his main mistake when he followed me.......if you watch the film again, and slow it down a bit when i go up........is that when he got near 1k out, he tried to pull lead on me. when he did this, his speed dropped off dramatically. i think that had he continued in a pure or a lag pursuit when i went up, he'd have whittled away any advantage i had.
the dude is a good pile-it, and very much fun to fly with, and against. it's always a good clean fight against him. :aok
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wow, I can't belive how far this has come in about 2 days....