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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Flipperk on November 08, 2009, 09:06:06 PM
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so my friend believes in the 2012 prediction and I brought some points for him to think about...
1.) Our calendar year ends on Dec 31, does that mean we are going to die?
2.) Maybe the guy making the calendar died or just said f*** it on dec 21 , 2012
3.) Maybe just like our calendar, the mayan one starts over!?
Of course he didn't believe me so I made a deal with him
I asked him:
"Jeff, do you believe with all your heart that the earth will end in 2012?"
He said:
"Yes, I do"
So I asked:
"Ok, so you would not mind betting me your entire life savings, car, and house. And that on Dec 22, 2012 i will walk up to your door step, reach my hands out and you handing over your keys, title notice, and account numbers and passwords then right?"
"I mean, afterall, it would not matter since we will all be dead"
He said:
"Ok"
Looks like I got some accomidations coming in on Dec 22, 2012 :D
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Get it in writing :D
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Oh man
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get it in writing, notarized.
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what he said; get it in writing
as far as I'm concerned if someone's calendar ends it just means they need to get them self another one.
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My birthday is dec 22nd
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Im typing up a agreement now, heres what it would look like:
The agreement that follows was reviewed by both parties, (my name) and (Jeff), and that by signing this document both parties agree to the terms and conditions that this document contains.
On December 22, 2012 at 12:01AM, if the party of (me) is living and able, then the party of (jeff) will give the party of (me) full credit to the savings and all monetary instruments that the party of (Jeff) has ownership to as of the signing of this document, and that are listed below:
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(( (I did this section like this, because he might blow off all his money before then)
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On December 22, 2012 at 12:01AM, if the party of (me) is living and able, then the party of (jeff) will give the party of (me) full ownership to vehicle that the party of (jeff) has in ownership under his name.
On December 22, 2012 at 12:01AM, if the party of (me) is living and able, then the party of (jeff) will give the party of (me) full ownership to the household/property that the party of (jeff) has ownership and title to that of said houshold/property.
If on December 22, 2012 the party of (me) is not living and able, then this document is thereby null and void.
This document and all conditions listed above has been reviewed by both parties (My signature) and (Jeffs signature) and by signing this document with the set conditions above both parties agree to these set conditions.
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My signature, date jeffs signature, date
This is what i have so far...
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:rofl Your going to get alot of stuff on Dec. 22 2012
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Flip, if you get that signed, watch out for hitmen. :noid
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props :O
I wish I had friends that gullible :rofl
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:rofl Your going to get alot of stuff on Dec. 22 2012
Yea, hes gonna get a mortgage and car payments :aok
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Yea, hes gonna get a mortgage and car payments :aok
Nope, Relistate and a vehicle that I can sell :aok
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writing = lawyer.
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Yep.....that might as well be written on the funny papers signed in crayon.
Strip
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This story was all over the news this week,see below. Was believed to take milions of years for the plate tectonics drift , but in few days a giant crack 35 miles long formed in Africa. Was funny how they put it: "we are witnessing the birth of new ocean" , like watching a pet giving birth: there's no birth without pain, i can't imagine a huge chunk of Africa splashing in the Indian Ocean without damaging something.
You may lose the bet.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,571347,00.html?test=latestnews
(http://www.spiegel.de/img/0,1020,587920,00.jpg)
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unless theres a viable contract with him earning some interest in return..... any court will take this for what it is
laughter
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2012 is a false prophecy. Maya people are some sick and tire of hear about it, telling everyone that it will not happen.
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in the state of texas a verbal agreement can and has been upheld in the court of law, im pretty sure this typed up agreement will hold up as well.
for a verbal agreement to be upheld you need to provide proof of terms of agreements..
so in fact, this is a legal document in the state of texas
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Even the highest terrestrial tsunami would only reach so many miles inland, a bad day for many to be sure but hardly the end of days.
Strip
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I have some doubt that would apply if you are under 18, kids say dumb things.
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I have some doubt that would apply if you are under 18, kids say dumb things.
im 20, hes 22
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im 20, hes 22
Then I'll make you a deal, if we're not all dead, I get half of it. :cheers:
:bolt:
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There's more than one course mentioning a new world in December of 2012.
One of few is roman pope prophesy for example,it states that there will be 267 popes, Benedict is 265Th
And how did they know about galactic alignment 2000 years ago anyway, its fascinating.
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There's more than one course mentioning a new world in December of 2012.
One of few is roman pope prophesy for example,it states that there will be 267 popes, Benedict is 265Th.
But who's to say that they're not prophesizing the fall of the catholic church? Or reform in the catholic church?
IMO, prophesy ALWAYS (if it's true or not, your call) has more than one meaning, and people will interpret it as they wish. Man naturally wants to know when it will go extinct, as it's not a matter of if, but when, and our curiosity is perked by that. We want to know how, and if we'll go through it, and if so, when can we expect it?
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And how did they know about galactic alignment 2000 years ago anyway, its fascinating.
When you have a society that is fascinated by the stars, has a basic knowledge of mathematics, has written records to pass to the next generation, and a zest for knowledge that is unclouded by religion, you can discover many things about the universe even without a telescope.
But that sure a hell doesn't mean the world is gonna end. :aok
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The key to a good prophecy is vagueness.
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There was a news declaration from a south American historian or archeologist. (Expert in the Mayan calendar) He said he was tired of all that mumbo-jumbo about the last day and the calendar sequence simply reboots on that day to start another cycle equally long.
But we are doomed, judgement day will come when the drones start thinking :D
(http://www.foxnews.com/images/582336/2_22_Aerosonde_mk32.jpg)
News here:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,571133,00.html
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unless theres a viable contract with him earning some interest in return..... any court will take this for what it is
laughter
in the state of texas a verbal agreement can and has been upheld in the court of law, im pretty sure this typed up agreement will hold up as well.
for a verbal agreement to be upheld you need to provide proof of terms of agreements..
so in fact, this is a legal document in the state of texas
Batch is correct. My wife is taking a course in Business Law and her textbook focuses on contracts. One of the first concepts is that a contract is something for something. What does your friend get? Also, offers made in jest are not valid. It can be argued that your friend is lacking the capacity to make an agreement.
While all this is silly fun, there is very little you can do to legally enforce anything (other than a gift or something negotiable) your friend might sign.
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So legal or not, is anyone else bothered that this is his "friend."
Takes "who needs enemies" to a new level.
:noid
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The sun exploding in our face could suck... :D
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As has been pointed out, 2012 is absolutely bogus.
Heck, even Revelation has been grossly misinterpreted (it referred to the fall of Rome).
And "Apocalypse" never meant the end of the world, but actually translates more closely to "change."
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I think you just gave your "friend" 3 years, 2 months, and 3 days to plan your murder.... ahem, disappearance. Afterwards he probably just plans to come to your house and take all of your stuff before anyone realizes you're gone.
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When you have a society that is fascinated by the stars, has a basic knowledge of mathematics, has written records to pass to the next generation, and a zest for knowledge that is unclouded by religion, you can discover many things about the universe even without a telescope.
But that sure a hell doesn't mean the world is gonna end. :aok
Which society are you referring to? The Mayans were highly religious, guided by "elemental gods", "spirits" and the "heavens". Not many human civilizations have gone without some sort of religious belief system.
The 2012 end date has been theorized to be "a new beginning" in what is claimed to be regular series of cycles. Going to be interesting to see how closely that calendar is tied to several "apocalyptic prophecies" and other "cyclic calendars".
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Might want to point out to him that this is nuts stuff based on one Mayan calender that ends in 2012. They made other calenders that ended far, far, far further in the future. They also didn't think the end of the calender meant anything other than they'd have to make a new one. This whole thing is a weird mix of Mayan calenders being mixed with Christian belief in the end of the world, something that most ancient religions and peoples didn't believe.
Also, ask him why he thinks some ancient Mayan calender makers would have information about this? They just studied stars closely so as to make accurate calenders, which are very useful to civilizations for timing things like crop planting and such.
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Karnak,
I disagree that end-of-world myths are peculiar to the Judeo-Christian/Muslim faith. Virtually EVERY culture has some sort of mythology centering around how the world is going to end. It's part of the primeval mythology that all human cultures share.
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End of the world = People will make money off this theme.
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Some friend you are. And the rest of you, the "Get it in writing crowd".....
Is this what America is coming to? Are we really that greedy? Where even a stupid or under-educated "friend" is a tool to seemingly take advantage of.....
In any case,
The "2012" myth is a perpetration of the christian need (and I say "desire") for the "End of Days" at last once every generation (Gotta keep the sheep in the flock).The Mayans made other longer calendars, and actually figured this one would just "reset" after 2012. It was written down this way. It is no more likely than Nostradamus, whose predictions are never even close to truth unless his writings are generously "interpreted".
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Karnak,
I disagree that end-of-world myths are peculiar to the Judeo-Christian/Muslim faith. Virtually EVERY culture has some sort of mythology centering around how the world is going to end. It's part of the primeval mythology that all human cultures share.
Egypt did not, they were quite fixated on things always being as they had been and would be. Greece did not, so far as I can recall. The Norse had myths about the end of the gods, but that wasn't about the end of the world as it was supposed to usher in a utopia. Never heard of Mayan end of the world myths either.
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So legal or not, is anyone else bothered that this is his "friend."
Takes "who needs enemies" to a new level.
:noid
All that kept bothering me was "Would he actually take those things from his friend?"
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All that kept bothering me was "Would he actually take those things from his friend?"
Yea, precisely my point. Moray hit it too.
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"Jeff" is gonna be one pissed off broke carless guy.
At least give him rides to work.
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Im typing up a agreement now, heres what it would look like:
The agreement that follows was reviewed by both parties, (my name) and (Jeff), and that by signing this document both parties agree to the terms and conditions that this document contains.
On December 22, 2012 at 12:01AM, if the party of (me) is living and able, then the party of (jeff) will give the party of (me) full credit to the savings and all monetary instruments that the party of (Jeff) has ownership to as of the signing of this document, and that are listed below:
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(( (I did this section like this, because he might blow off all his money before then)
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On December 22, 2012 at 12:01AM, if the party of (me) is living and able, then the party of (jeff) will give the party of (me) full ownership to vehicle that the party of (jeff) has in ownership under his name.
On December 22, 2012 at 12:01AM, if the party of (me) is living and able, then the party of (jeff) will give the party of (me) full ownership to the household/property that the party of (jeff) has ownership and title to that of said houshold/property.
If on December 22, 2012 the party of (me) is not living and able, then this document is thereby null and void.
This document and all conditions listed above has been reviewed by both parties (My signature) and (Jeffs signature) and by signing this document with the set conditions above both parties agree to these set conditions.
___________________________ _____________________________ ________-
My signature, date jeffs signature, date
This is what i have so far...
Throw in a non-transfer clause if he's married.
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If you honestly Beleive this then most likely you were freaking out during the Y2K hype, Government did a good job back in 1999-2000 with all the propaganda surrounding that. Guess what nothing happened. lol
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The History Channel did a good job at trying to make everybody think this was fact and a sure thing. They even got nut job 'scientists' to come on and tell how the world was going to end on the winter solstice of that year.
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on that note, im freakin sick and tired of the HISTORY channel saying when the world WILL end. :furious :furious :furious
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Wait till all the retailers jump on the band wagon, Offerring survival kits and shelters and so on..and sadly enough people will BUY it feeding on the hysteria they see on TV with all of these End Of the World specials, Good way to boost the economy i guess lol, it worked in 2000
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LoL guys this was just poke some fun at my friend, of course i would never take hi stuff :t
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Isn't anyone else looking forward to December 22nd, 2012, when we can just all turn around and LAUGH OUR FRICKING ARSES OFF AT ALL THOSE IDIOTS who said we'd be dead? :neener: :neener:
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Isn't anyone else looking forward to December 22nd, 2012, when we can just all turn around and LAUGH OUR FRICKING ARSES OFF AT ALL THOSE IDIOTS who said we'd be dead? :neener: :neener:
Set-up a "LOL" forum for that day so we can all laugh. :rock
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Set-up a "LOL" forum for that day so we can all laugh. :rock
Nahhh, that wouldn't be any fun..we need something PUBLIC, BIG and LOUD. I'm thinking a special AH Con just for this purpose :x
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They could just organize a mass suicide on Dec 21 to ensure they are correct.
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I can see it now, Dec 22, 2012
Headlines:
We Told You So!
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After 2012 im sure there will be someone else saying the world will end sometime in the future.
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Just on the slight off chance that the world does end in 2012....what yalls plans for Dec 20?
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Just on the slight off chance that the world does end in 2012....what yalls plans for Dec 20?
Well that is a Thursday, so not much doubt in my mind here -- end of the world themed party at my house. Lots of booze and other sinful activities cause after all - there's no tomorrow right? :devil :rock :cheers:
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how many people will play aces high the day before at least a little bit. I know i will ahaha
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how many people will play aces high the day before at least a little bit. I know i will ahaha
I think Pyro should program in a supernova Sun at midnight.
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OMG I just went downstairs to get a beer and noticed the calender on the fridge ends Dec 31, 2009................ the world will obviously end on this day since my calendar doesnt go any further
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OMG I just went downstairs to get a beer and noticed the calender on the fridge ends Dec 31, 2009................ the world will obviously end on this day since my calendar doesnt go any further
:aok thats how it works
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LoL guys this was just poke some fun at my friend, of course i would never take hi stuff :t
Wimp.
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The only documents that I've seen hold up in civil court are ones like between landlords and tenants. Watch judge judy sometime I think that contract works for things like giving someone a cell phone but idk about all their possessions.
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Just curious, how would the mayans be able to keep up with our Calender, knowing which day Jesus Christ had been born...etc? When they are a complete ocean away anyways? When you put something like that into account, it sounds rather ridiculous.
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I dont even HAVE a calender.I go by what that notification in the right hand corner of the monitor says. Oh crap.If I lose power,that means the world will end :x
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That day in 2012 will just be a regular normal day like any other day. Nothing will happen at all, just a bunch of hooey
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I still grin when I remember the two religious twonks on my doorstep that earnestly insisted that the world was going to end on 31st December 2000 . . .
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In the year 2525
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In the year 2525
When we get to 9595, then we are screwed
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OMG I just went downstairs to get a beer and noticed the calender on the fridge ends Dec 31, 2009................ the world will obviously end on this day since my calendar doesnt go any further
:rofl
After 2012 im sure there will be someone else saying the world will end sometime in the future.
Isn't there supposed to be a GINORMOUS asteroid that is gonna come really close to our planet in 2029?
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Isn't there supposed to be a GINORMOUS asteroid that is gonna come really close to our planet in 2029?
Thats cool.
atleast we have Bruce Willis
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:rofl
Isn't there supposed to be a GINORMOUS asteroid that is gonna come really close to our planet in 2029?
Close is an understatement, it's predicted to come in under our Communication satellites. Run! Run for the hills!
FUTURE
The future for Apophis on Friday, April 13 of 2029 includes an approach to Earth no closer than 29,470 km (18,300 miles, or 5.6 Earth radii from the center, or 4.6 Earth-radii from the surface) over the mid-Atlantic, appearing to the naked eye as a moderately bright point of light moving rapidly across the sky. Depending on its mechanical nature, it could experience shape or spin-state alteration due to tidal forces caused by Earth's gravity field.
This is within the distance of Earth's geosynchronous satellites. However, because Apophis will pass interior to the positions of these satellites at closest approach, in a plane inclined at 40 degrees to the Earth's equator and passing outside the equatorial geosynchronous zone when crossing the equatorial plane, it does not threaten the satellites in that heavily populated region.
Using criteria developed in this research, new measurements possible in 2013 (if not 2011) will likely confirm that in 2036 Apophis will quietly pass more than 49 million km (30.5 million miles; 0.32 AU) from Earth on Easter Sunday of that year (April 13).
This one did perk a few eyebrows when they first found it and started doing orbital computations. A few days after discovery the first models showed a 1 in 5 chance, which got whittled down to 2.9% and then to this current prediction.
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Let's hope that if the math is wrong, Bruce is still at large :D
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Isn't there supposed to be a GINORMOUS asteroid that is gonna come really close to our planet in 2029?
No, Earth will be gone. Haven't you been listening? (or, in this case, reading?) :D
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When you have a society that is fascinated by the stars, has a basic knowledge of mathematics, has written records to pass to the next generation, and a zest for knowledge that is unclouded by religion, you can discover many things about the universe even without a telescope.
But that sure a hell doesn't mean the world is gonna end. :aok
They had knowledge of orbits,planets,galaxies that we discovered 10-20 year's ago using orbit telescope.
And check it out,thers an ancient tribe "Dogon"
"The Dogon are famous for their astronomical knowledge taught through oral tradition, dating back thousands of years, referencing the star system, Sirius. Sirius is the dog star. It is linked with the Egyptian goddess Isis. The astronomical information known by the Dogon since that time, was not discovered and verified until the 19th and 20th centuries, making one wonder how the Dogon came by this knowledge. Their oral traditions say it was given to them by the Nommo.The amfibios god"
"As the story goes ... in the late 1930s, four Dogon priests shared their most important secret tradition with two French anthropologists, Marcel Griaule and Germain Dieterlen after they had spent an apprenticeship of fifteen years living with the tribe. These were secret myths about the star Sirius, which is 8.6 light years from the Earth."
The Dogon priests said that Sirius had a companion star that was invisible to the human eye. They also stated that the star moved in a 50-year elliptical orbit around Sirius, that it was small and incredibly heavy, and that it rotated on its axis.
Initially the anthropologists wrote it off publishing the information in an obscure anthropological journal, because they didn't appreciate the astronomical importance of the information.
What they didn't know was that since 1844, astronomers had suspected that Sirius A had a companion star. This was in part determined when it was observed that the path of the star wobbled. In 1862 Alvan Clark discovered the second star making Sirius a binary star system (two stars).
The Dogons have described perfectly the DNA pattern made by an elliptical orbit created by the two stars of Sirius as they rotate make around each other. They believe Sirius to be the axis of the universe, and from it all matter and all souls are produced in a great spiral motion.
http://www.crystalinks.com/dogon.html (http://www.crystalinks.com/dogon.html)
Makes you wonder huh?
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The Mayans had about 20 calenders at least 5 of which they still keep in secret. Kinda makes you wonder whats on those. The calender that is making all the fuss is called the long count calender its about the great cycle as they call it. Its 5125.36 years approximately. So when the conquistadors can thru and subjugated the Mayans and killed most some survived and a Mayan scholar adopted the Gregorian calander and started matching up dates and came up with the end date which is Dec. 21 at 11:11 Greenwich time. the beginning of the last great cycle was Aug 13 3114 BCE. The Mayans said that this was not the end of the world just the restarting of the Great cycle. They believed that we had gone thru 3 great cycles already and its people in this age that are putting this brand of the end of days on this calender roll over.
The Mayans also believe that to live thru a great cycle is a blessing a time of good luck and to celebrate, not stock up on bottled water. This is the great flaw in the whole 2012 theory the people that made the calender dont even believe the world is coming to an end in 2012. WE put this end of days twist on this because, at least i think so, of it ending on the winter solstice.
Although there are some strange things that will happen on that day like the sun only on that day will be in the exact center of the milky way galaxy. The last time that happened was about 26,000 years ago. We are also beginning a new sunspot cycle. In July 31 2006 NASA scientists found a backwards sunspot meaning that it was polarized in the wrong direction from south to north instead of north to south. These could have a big effect such as proton storms and messin with the earths gravitational fields. The solar cycle changes every few years anyways tho. The earths poles are in the process of changing right now but wont fully change for 1200 years scientists claim. These happen randomly. Its pretty neat how they know this happens they look for ancient lava flows and because lava having a lot of iron it it flows toward the north. So they just have to date the lava flow and can get a rough estimate of what was true north at the time. This only happens about every 780,000 years.
IMO its just another Y2K scare. We the human race are far to blemished to get off that easy!
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Someone here said that they could discover that just by looking at stars without telescope, i seriosly doubt that:)
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Which society are you referring to? The Mayans were highly religious, guided by "elemental gods", "spirits" and the "heavens". Not many human civilizations have gone without some sort of religious belief system.
By saying "a zest for knowledge that is unclouded by religion" I wasn't referring to whether they were religious or not. I was just trying to say that they didn't turn a blind eye to their observations because of their religion. I think that's as far as I can go into the subject without getting skuzzified.