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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: golfr on December 07, 2009, 11:17:13 AM
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It seems every time I log on Knights are getting gangbanged again. Cowardly rook and bish won't fight each other. Just look at today's map.
You rook and bish will say: "it happens to all teams equally". That is simply not true and you know it.
For the record, I NEVER participate in gangbangs. I always attack the team with the most bases and encourage my teammates to do the same. What fun/glory/satisfaction is there in attacking/crushing an opponent who has no chance of defending themselves because they're hopelessly outnumbered on two fronts?
I'm not whining, just stating facts. It's just frustrating and not fun getting your butt kicked every week because your two cowardly opponents have some sort of "agreement".
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This is why i would like to see some sort of base ENY. Or limited number assigned to take off from that base. The hording and ganging is getting out of control. Yesterday i was in a 1 vs 15. Me against the horde. KillnU showed up and a few others. We owned them, and they stopped fighting. Just gave up at the least bit of defense.
Sorry, had an ADD moment while typing that :O :joystick: :airplane:
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It seems every time I log on Knights are getting gangbanged again. Cowardly rook and bish won't fight each other. Just look at today's map.
You rook and bish will say: "it happens to all teams equally". That is simply not true and you know it.
For the record, I NEVER participate in gangbangs. I always attack the team with the most bases and encourage my teammates to do the same. What fun/glory/satisfaction is there in attacking/crushing an opponent who has no chance of defending themselves because they're hopelessly outnumbered on two fronts?
I'm not whining, just stating facts. It's just frustrating and not fun getting your butt kicked every week because your two cowardly opponents have some sort of "agreement".
Golfr. I always fly low numbers country each night. Gang bang happens on ALL sides. There is not a single country that gets gangbanged more than any other. This is coming from experience. If you dont believe me, spend a week flying low numbers.
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Golfr. I always fly low numbers country each night. Gang bang happens on ALL sides. There is not a single country that gets gangbanged more than any other. This is coming from experience. If you dont believe me, spend a week flying low numbers.
ill have to agree with you.
But the hording bases with 30 and 40 guys is just pathetic. I see most of the hording from the bish. Not saying any names. But youll always find the same people in the same crowd doing the same exact thing. :aok
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I just came out of the Bish high command meeting. I brought the issue to their attention and we took it to a vote. I am sorry to say that we decided to continue the alliance with the honorable rooks and continue to crash the skill less Knits. Our goal is the elimination of that little country and world domination by the BishRook federation.
:rock
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I just came out of the Bish high command meeting. I brought the issue to their attention and we took it to a vote. I am sorry to say that we decided to continue the alliance with the honorable rooks and continue to crash the skill less Knits. Our goal is the elimination of that little country and world domination by the BishRook federation.
:rock
:lol
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I just came out of the Bish high command meeting. I brought the issue to their attention and we took it to a vote. I am sorry to say that we decided to continue the alliance with the honorable rooks and continue to crash the skill less Knits. Our goal is the elimination of that little country and world domination by the BishRook federation.
:rock
:rofl Nice one
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I Played about an hour last night, No fun, got frustrated with just trying to defend countless Waves, Both sides just rolled us, that's no fun and it seems to be getting worse, The Game would be better if there was just 2 countries, but then again it would probally end up lopsided to.What made me log off is when the Knights began bashing each other, i guess it was out of frustration who knows but i logged..
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It seems every time I log on Knights are getting gangbanged again. Cowardly rook and bish won't fight each other. Just look at today's map.
You rook and bish will say: "it happens to all teams equally". That is simply not true and you know it.
For the record, I NEVER participate in gangbangs. I always attack the team with the most bases and encourage my teammates to do the same. What fun/glory/satisfaction is there in attacking/crushing an opponent who has no chance of defending themselves because they're hopelessly outnumbered on two fronts?
I'm not whining, just stating facts. It's just frustrating and not fun getting your butt kicked every week because your two cowardly opponents have some sort of "agreement".
come to mw. it's the knights doing this there.
and i fly the low numbers side when i log in.,.....
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I just came out of the Bish high command meeting. I brought the issue to their attention and we took it to a vote. I am sorry to say that we decided to continue the alliance with the honorable rooks and continue to crash the skill less Knits. Our goal is the elimination of that little country and world domination by the BishRook federation.
:rock
I thought we left the light on and left the keys hanging on the Door for ya :lol, it was slaughterfest last night hahahaa
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You should vist MW sometime. Knights are the gangbangers in there! They roll a map nearly every day. 6 boxs of lancs drop all hangers and leave ord then turn attention to town where goons and /or m3 are on station. You have 110's F6's and many others circling like buzzards waiting for the dummy that ups when a hanger pops!
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(http://ahdywizjon308.servegame.org:8000/fileDownload.php?filename=hatin.JPG&system_name=repository_file_273)
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If you leave the remaining knights will be even more outnumbered. That makes you part of the problem! :P
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What made me log off is when the Knights began bashing each other, i guess it was out of frustration who knows but i logged..
That's what happens when someone finally tells all the little Napoleons to quit crying about the war. :D
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I mostly fly Knits, and I swear to God I have to listen to this "Knits won't work together" BS and people telling me I should go pork/toolshed instead of going hunting every night. IN A GAME ABOUT FIGHTER COMBAT SOME YAHOO EXPECTS ME TO SPEND MY TIME FIGHTING BUILDINGS!
Got a big red bar incoming, count your damn blessings, beats the times when you got to chase the fight or the "fight" consists of 15 green guys circling the enemy runway by the time you get there.
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You should vist MW sometime. Knights are the gangbangers in there! They roll a map nearly every day. 6 boxs of lancs drop all hangers and leave ord then turn attention to town where goons and /or m3 are on station. You have 110's F6's and many others circling like buzzards waiting for the dummy that ups when a hanger pops!
i was flying bish the other night, and having fun fighting some ex-squaddies. the fact is, that it was me vs anywhere from 3 to 6 of them.
at first, i was doing it for base defense. then when i called for help multiple times, and got none.....all the while being able to look at the map, and a stream of green dots flying from a1 to v2...at least 6........i gave up defense, and just started trying to find a single one to fight.
rogue, and alpha81 both came out and fought me 1-1. rogue ran outta gas, called it, and i let him glide home. alpha81, i had alt on, and knew it was him...so i was trying to keep my alt, and force him into a mistake. once or twice he seemed to make a mistake, but at times i couldn't capatalize on them. he ran outta gas, right about the time rodent came in, and popped me.
they were fun fights though.
but my point......if one calls for help, and everyone :neener: :D is too busy to help, then they deserve to lose their bases.
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I Played about an hour last night, No fun, got frustrated with just trying to defend countless Waves, Both sides just rolled us, that's no fun and it seems to be getting worse, The Game would be better if there was just 2 countries, but then again it would probally end up lopsided to.What made me log off is when the Knights began bashing each other, i guess it was out of frustration who knows but i logged..
were you in mw last nigfht?
htere was some extrememly fun open channel poop flinging between larry, n7, and bulldog, and bootleg.
larry and n7 didn't start it..........
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It happens on all sides, but somehow each side gets a reputation for one thing or another and people alter the reality to fit their perception. We (Bish) were fighting off rook NOE raids one after another Saturday night. Sunday the 8 of us in LW Blue were getting hammered by the 40 other people in the arena, not a single fight between rooks and knights. It happens everywhere. Sometimes you get a few "leaders" on who have their specialty and I guess that's where these reputations get built.
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It happens on all sides, but somehow each side gets a reputation for one thing or another and people alter the reality to fit their perception. We (Bish) were fighting off rook NOE raids one after another Saturday night. Sunday the 8 of us in LW Blue were getting hammered by the 40 other people in the arena, not a single fight between rooks and knights. It happens everywhere. Sometimes you get a few "leaders" on who have their specialty and I guess that's where these reputations get built.
i've noticed(more since i started playing low numbers) that there's a couple squads that i ALWAYS find above me. there's one or 2 that i always find medium to low alt.
in general, the fights seem to be moving up in mw.
i was stirring the pot last night.....on auto climb. 27k( :O ) i go level onto auto pilot. looking for the red guy i know is below me. guess where he was? above me. i climbed to 30k, and was co-alt. rather than fight me(it woulda been spit9 vs 38j) he chose to dive down to the buffs that were down at 10k.
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Well stone me with melon pips, I actually agree with BnZs.
Cap, had I been the spit 9, you'd have been the first one to engage (or at least try to in my case obviously lol....). I always go for the highest con and try to work my way down - don't want some sneaky bugger dropping on me when busy etc etc..
Wurzel (doesn't really care about the ganging, but c'mon guys, 5 for little old me???) :D
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Cap, had I been the spit 9, you'd have been the first one to engage (or at least try to in my case obviously lol....). I always go for the highest con and try to work my way down - don't want some sneaky bugger dropping on me when busy etc etc..
I'll believe that when i see it!! big emphasis on the try :D
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If you leave the remaining knights will be even more outnumbered. That makes you part of the problem! :P
No sorry your wrong , Its hard to have fun when getting off the runway was like running a gauntlet lol Then if you was lucky to get anyone in your crosshairs then take a quick 6 look only to see 4 or 5 red guys dead on yer 6 lol Why stay and get frustrated? when i logged it was 121 rook 96 bish 62 knights.... yea fun,.... for the other side.. Its cool that your sides worked together that's good :salute... BishRook Federation? how come its not the RookBish Federation?? Rooks are you going to let the Bish do that to ya, they seem to be claiming superiority over you hehehe (trying to stir da S&^%Pot) lol
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posted this in another thread but it is relevant
the strat / HQ for the southern team is unfair on smpizza as is.
A30 is capturable when it is the closest field to the Strat. I would say it needs to be moved 1 sector SW closer to the un-capturable fields.
This isn't a whine I enjoyed killing the guys bombing it but in fairness it needs to be modified. Plus the dweebs on rooks had an easy time adding to their damage scores!
The rooks were encouraged by this a30 base being so close so pushed home their attacks to milk the strat which is unfairly placed for the southern team. I suspect this would happen to any team but as the map is small a fairly easy objective to fulfil.
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I really don't understand the OP, I spend most of my time fighting rooks.
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Well stone me with melon pips, I actually agree with BnZs.
Cap, had I been the spit 9, you'd have been the first one to engage (or at least try to in my case obviously lol....). I always go for the highest con and try to work my way down - don't want some sneaky bugger dropping on me when busy etc etc..
Wurzel (doesn't really care about the ganging, but c'mon guys, 5 for little old me???) :D
i think that would've been a FUN fight..........amazing how different the aircraft are up there. :aok
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i think last night on the knights side base 15 was a capturable GV base that spawned right into our Capital next to the strats?? that made no sense
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i think last night on the knights side base 15 was a capturable GV base that spawned right into our Capital next to the strats?? that made no sense
There is tweaking to be done yet.
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were you in mw last nigfht?
htere was some extrememly fun open channel poop flinging between larry, n7, and bulldog, and bootleg.
larry and n7 didn't start it..........
Cap ive been finding myself playing in that arena alot more now, lots of fun :salute
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I'll believe that when i see it!! big emphasis on the try :D
Hey you, I did say try :D (always picking on me, sheesh, what sort of CO are ya :rofl)
Wurzel
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It seems every time I log on Knights are getting gangbanged again. Cowardly rook and bish won't fight each other. Just look at today's map.
You rook and bish will say: "it happens to all teams equally". That is simply not true and you know it.
For the record, I NEVER participate in gangbangs. I always attack the team with the most bases and encourage my teammates to do the same. What fun/glory/satisfaction is there in attacking/crushing an opponent who has no chance of defending themselves because they're hopelessly outnumbered on two fronts?
I'm not whining, just stating facts. It's just frustrating and not fun getting your butt kicked every week because your two cowardly opponents have some sort of "agreement".
I know exactly how you feel. Us rooks used to be 'in the bucket' endlessly at my timezone (120 bish, 100 knight, 40 rook) for example with both sides attacking rooks. It got so bad in 2001-2002 that I pretty much quit playing (well there were other reasons too). Back then there was no ENY so attackers were just hunting easy perks without a limit.
So you're not alone and yes I know it sucks. It will probably end some time though.
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posted this in another thread but it is relevant
the strat / HQ for the southern team is unfair on smpizza as is.
A30 is capturable when it is the closest field to the Strat. I would say it needs to be moved 1 sector SW closer to the un-capturable fields.
This isn't a whine I enjoyed killing the guys bombing it but in fairness it needs to be modified. Plus the dweebs on rooks had an easy time adding to their damage scores!
The rooks were encouraged by this a30 base being so close so pushed home their attacks to milk the strat which is unfairly placed for the southern team. I suspect this would happen to any team but as the map is small a fairly easy objective to fulfil.
:aok
i thought that exact same thing this morning
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It seems every time I log on Knights are getting gangbanged again. Cowardly rook and bish won't fight each other. Just look at today's map.
You rook and bish will say: "it happens to all teams equally". That is simply not true and you know it.
For the record, I NEVER participate in gangbangs. I always attack the team with the most bases and encourage my teammates to do the same. What fun/glory/satisfaction is there in attacking/crushing an opponent who has no chance of defending themselves because they're hopelessly outnumbered on two fronts?
I'm not whining, just stating facts. It's just frustrating and not fun getting your butt kicked every week because your two cowardly opponents have some sort of "agreement".
Hmm I most always go to the team with the lowest numbers. This ensures fights most of the time.
So your wishing for less fights so you can get a base? Not sure I'm understanding your point.
BTW there are several Arenas to fly in, all designed with the customer in mind.
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In the end the game will be what you make of it. I had some exceptional fights on Sunday marred only by the fact that I was flying a spit XVI (probably 1st time in a year or more). 1st fight was marred in that I didn't keep a squaddie out once I got lit up. But once we (71 SQD) knew who it was who did all we could to keep the fights clean. I won a few, lost a few got picked a time or two (so did he) but all in all it was a good time. As always things ebb and flow and the numbers got skewed beyond reason after a bit but you can normally find a reasonably good fight if you look for it. The real question is in your ability to foster an even environment. We all moan when we get ganged...but most of us (myself included) are often quick to administer a drubbing when the numbers favor us. The good fights are out there just waiting for you to find them...
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I just came out of the Bish high command meeting. I brought the issue to their attention and we took it to a vote. I am sorry to say that we decided to continue the alliance with the honorable rooks and continue to crash the skill less Knits. Our goal is the elimination of that little country and world domination by the BishRook federation.
:rock
OK, that's funny. But it seems unfortunately true. The Knights are not skill-less, just hopelessly outnumbered on two fronts. Granted, we don't get organized like we should. BUT, no matter how well organized you are, when you're outnumbered 2-1 every day, you're gonna get slaughtered.
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I just came out of the Bish high command meeting. I brought the issue to their attention and we took it to a vote. I am sorry to say that we decided to continue the alliance with the honorable rooks and continue to crash the skill less Knits. Our goal is the elimination of that little country and world domination by the BishRook federation.
:rock
just saw this :rofl you are a badman dedalos.
Knights need a new president! Someone who will bring about CHANGE! To stand tall and defend bases at all costs aswell as drive deep into the RookBish federations hearts.
I vote for Ltown but there are many more armchair generals who can throw their hat in. Make it so.
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OK, that's funny. But it seems unfortunately true. The Knights are not skill-less, just hopelessly outnumbered on two fronts. Granted, we don't get organized like we should. BUT, no matter how well organized you are, when you're outnumbered 2-1 every day, you're gonna get slaughtered.
Replace your leaders.
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I pretty much stick to bish and I find more often than not Knits are the gangers just last night I was set up for a ganging..you guys were so mean to me(you know who you are :D...not to worry though I have a wicked ground crew that can make planes faster than I can wreck them........ In saying that I really can't expect much more as I will usually try to find an area that has a bigger red dar than green. Two reasons for this..I have enough trouble fighting the red guys as it is with out having to fight my own...and the other is how am I supposed to whinge and bi%$h if there aren't more of them than me :lol :lol...
On a side note to fighting fronts...( my time zone) it has been, up til your thanksgiving, extremely difficult to find a fight on the bish side...knits and rooks battling all the time....one night I actually had to fly 2 sectors to get in amongst a fight of rooks and knits.....and they all ganged me :lol :lol
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It seems every time I log on Knights are getting gangbanged again. Cowardly rook and bish won't fight each other. Just look at today's map.
You rook and bish will say: "it happens to all teams equally". That is simply not true and you know it.
got to agree here, altho its in no way restricted to knits, we certainly get the worst of it. unfortunately ive got to conclude that its us knits who are ultimately responsible. why? we just make it too easy for em.
examples:
I can go days without seeing a mission posted, then when one is its either 1. utterly clueless or 2. late war uber plane horde. many times ive heard a visiting rook or bish say on country - why are there no missions? even with a small group a coordinated effort is much more likely to succeed.
Minimal porking. Bish or Rook are organised and rolling fields, but noone can be bothered to kill 5x barracks or 2x ords.
Sluggish/no response. Saturday me and wrongway were trying to stop a group of ~10 (claimjumpers?) rolling bases. nothing at all wrong with that, however despite posting alerts on country numerous times, by the time they had captured the 4th or 5th base, there was still just the 2 of us there.
(and my personal favorite) yesterday afternoon about 60 knits on, 20 of whom are sitting cosily in their gvs camping spawns at 2 v bases for over an hour.
I guess I'm saying that attack is the best form of defence and knits seem a bit light on cojones at the moment.
:bolt:
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I guess I'm saying that attack is the best form of defence and knits seem a bit light on cojones at the moment.
:bolt:
cojone check? no they all good. :D
everytime i login the night shift have lost large portions of what we gained. this cycle goes badly because then we don't bother and furball = lose more bases gain more FUN / perks / kills :cool:
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Sluggish/no response. Saturday me and wrongway were trying to stop a group of ~10 (claimjumpers?) rolling bases. nothing at all wrong with that, however despite posting alerts on country numerous times, by the time they had captured the 4th or 5th base, there was still just the 2 of us there.
That's odd - for a moment I thought you were talking about rooks. At least I heard the very same complaints for about two hours yesterday on rook country channel "Why we never... look at them they are organized... why is AXX not porked yet... Rooks are always so slow responding" ;)
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I have a theory as to why Knights may have an issue with low numbers.
Being a little Napoleon is the new knight fad.
I mostly fly Knits, and I swear to God I have to listen to this "Knits won't work together" BS and people telling me I should go pork/toolshed instead of going hunting every night. IN A GAME ABOUT FIGHTER COMBAT SOME YAHOO EXPECTS ME TO SPEND MY TIME FIGHTING BUILDINGS!
I've been hardheaded enough to throw the demands back and tell them that I don't care about their warz. The attempted insults range from being called a 12yr old console player, to actually using their real life military service as the reason they know how to play the game better. I was actually asked, "what have you done to help win the war today??" :rolleyes:
I do whatever I think will be fun at the moment. It just so happens that I prefer running with my squaddies and taking bases intact without help from massive #'s, or flying fighter sweeps, or Lord Forbid...... finding a group of pilots on the other side that logged on and want to mix it up just like me.
I really don't care if that makes some little Knight Napoleon think less of me as a person in real life.
Having said all that. I enjoy flying knights. :D
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That's odd - for a moment I thought you were talking about rooks. At least I heard the very same complaints for about two hours yesterday on rook country channel "Why we never... look at them they are organized... why is AXX not porked yet... Rooks are always so slow responding" ;)
must have been talkin about bish :D
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In the end the game will be what you make of it. I had some exceptional fights on Sunday marred only by the fact that I was flying a spit XVI (probably 1st time in a year or more). 1st fight was marred in that I didn't keep a squaddie out once I got lit up. But once we (71 SQD) knew who it was who did all we could to keep the fights clean. I won a few, lost a few got picked a time or two (so did he) but all in all it was a good time. As always things ebb and flow and the numbers got skewed beyond reason after a bit but you can normally find a reasonably good fight if you look for it. The real question is in your ability to foster an even environment. We all moan when we get ganged...but most of us (myself included) are often quick to administer a drubbing when the numbers favor us. The good fights are out there just waiting for you to find them...
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Ganging happens to all of us on all sides sooner or later. I guess the one thing that irks me about whines like this is some unknown, Internet guy calling someone else a coward about his or her conduct on a cartoon airplane game. Really think about what you are saying here. You are calling people you don't even know who play a game with cartoon airplanes which is somewhat realistically modeled but not really.. "cowards".
GET A LIFE!
It seems every time I log on Knights are getting gangbanged again. Cowardly rook and bish won't fight each other. Just look at today's map.
You rook and bish will say: "it happens to all teams equally". That is simply not true and you know it.
For the record, I NEVER participate in gangbangs. I always attack the team with the most bases and encourage my teammates to do the same. What fun/glory/satisfaction is there in attacking/crushing an opponent who has no chance of defending themselves because they're hopelessly outnumbered on two fronts?
I'm not whining, just stating facts. It's just frustrating and not fun getting your butt kicked every week because your two cowardly opponents have some sort of "agreement".
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just saw this :rofl you are a badman dedalos.
Knights need a new president! Someone who will bring about CHANGE! To stand tall and defend bases at all costs aswell as drive deep into the RookBish federations hearts.
I vote for Ltown but there are many more armchair generals who can throw their hat in. Make it so.
LOL Bruv! At least LTOWN tries to get Knights organized to grab territory. For me, that's what this game is about, having the most bases. For many, it's all about furballing. I used to try to organize the team to grab bases but, sadly, I was not a good enough armchair general to pull it off. I don't furball because I'm total canon fodder in fighters. I just take my Lancs up and try to hit the most opportunistic targets (I can hit anything from 15k) OR run troops in by whatever means when they're needed. I've sat hidden near a base with troops for as much as 4 hours waiting for the opportunity to take them in. I play for the team.
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After reading this thread, I am now going to start flying with the country who has the most players instead of the least.
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After reading this thread, I am now going to start flying with the country who has the most players instead of the least.
"Start?"
;)
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After reading this thread, I am now going to start flying with the country who has the most players instead of the least.
Good :) more perks for me. Means ill be smacking you around a lot more :aok :devil
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Ganging happens to all of us on all sides sooner or later. I guess the one thing that irks me about whines like this is some unknown, Internet guy calling someone else a coward about his or her conduct on a cartoon airplane game. Really think about what you are saying here. You are calling people you don't even know who play a game with cartoon airplanes which is somewhat realistically modeled but not really.. "cowards".
GET A LIFE!
Yo moron! I wasn't talking about real-life cowards, just game cowards. You're the one that needs to get a life.
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Just to be clear, as one whose only goal is the ruining of Aces High. There are no Knights. There are actually only two countries and each side has spies operating in the otherwise unoccupied Knight land. So what is seen as disorganized Knight resistance, is actually Rook and Bish pilots operating in a state of confusion as neither speak the same language.
There is no Rook-Bish federation. It's just the ongoing battle over no-mans land, aka Knights land.
Again, I do believe some folks take this a bit too seriously :)
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Your logic amazes me.
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were you in mw last nigfht?
htere was some extrememly fun open channel poop flinging between larry, n7, and bulldog, and bootleg.
larry and n7 didn't start it..........
It started when Bulldog missed his attempt to a pick, lost his 10K advantage and then his plane blew up :lol
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Awww Dan, ya went and told them the "Secret". :lol
Just to be clear, as one whose only goal is the ruining of Aces High. There are no Knights. There are actually only two countries and each side has spies operating in the otherwise unoccupied Knight land. So what is seen as disorganized Knight resistance, is actually Rook and Bish pilots operating in a state of confusion as neither speak the same language.
There is no Rook-Bish federation. It's just the ongoing battle over no-mans land, aka Knights land.
Again, I do believe some folks take this a bit too seriously :)
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OK, that's funny. But it seems unfortunately true. The Knights are not skill-less, just hopelessly outnumbered on two fronts. Granted, we don't get organized like we should. BUT, no matter how well organized you are, when you're outnumbered 2-1 every day, you're gonna get slaughtered.
Ohh, I dont know about that. In the MW it was 4 bish and 12 Nights the other day. Cane an I kept sending them packing for over an hour. They must be different nights in the MW
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Just to be clear, as one whose only goal is the ruining of Aces High. There are no Knights. There are actually only two countries and each side has spies operating in the otherwise unoccupied Knight land. So what is seen as disorganized Knight resistance, is actually Rook and Bish pilots operating in a state of confusion as neither speak the same language.
There is no Rook-Bish federation. It's just the ongoing battle over no-mans land, aka Knights land.
Again, I do believe some folks take this a bit too seriously :)
ROX? is that you?
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Good :) more perks for me. Means ill be smacking you around a lot more :aok :devil
By all means, go right ahead. I need more free kills. :t
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I would tend to agree with most of what you all are saying... Everyone from each side is reporting 'crappy' gameplay such as gangbanging..
For me, I tend to look at the map and try to pick my fight and plane from looking at the map first... The beggining of this tour has been very frustrating for me, unable to find a good fight or have a fun sortie..
We have all had days where we logg on and have multiple good sorties, lots of kills, some takes ,, ect..
Some days are just terrible tho, the bad days are getting to be more common in the main i think.... Just my 2 cents..... :salute
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Ganging happens to all of us on all sides sooner or later. I guess the one thing that irks me about whines like this is some unknown, Internet guy calling someone else a coward about his or her conduct on a cartoon airplane game. Really think about what you are saying here. You are calling people you don't even know who play a game with cartoon airplanes which is somewhat realistically modeled but not really.. "cowards".
GET A LIFE!
What is the CPID that you fly under?
(testing a theory)
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It started when Bulldog missed his attempt to a pick, lost his 10K advantage and then his plane blew up :lol
i know. in the past, when i've been on the same country as him, i've tried to mention to him, that he was gonna get himself chatbanned. tried to help him out. he's actually a pretty decent guy to fly with.
he just takes this stuff tooooooo seriously, and goes off the deep end.
that's why when gaf was tryin to get a 1-1 ......gaf in a c2, him in a pony.....i kinda told him gaf is a spit dweeb, and sucks in the c2....tryin to get him to fight.
gaf knew i was screwin' around.......but it didn't work anyway. :rofl :bolt:
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Awww Dan, ya went and told them the "Secret". :lol
the secret to the secret ingredient, is there IS no secret ingredient.
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I don't care about ganging, it happens, it's part of the game, people just go where the easy fight is.
Here's one I don't understand though, last night in blue, we Knights were getting rolled on both fronts (fine, like I said, part of the game)
I checked the the country status periodically (cause I was actually hoping rooks would get the reset soon, was sick of that map).
Here's what I don't get. Even after the Rooks had their 40% from Knights, they continued to focus all they're efforts on us. If they had turned on the Bish they could have easily won the war.
Is it like I said before, they just go were the easy fight is, and don't care about winning, or what?
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i've noticed(more since i started playing low numbers) that there's a couple squads that i ALWAYS find above me. there's one or 2 that i always find medium to low alt.
in general, the fights seem to be moving up in mw.
i was stirring the pot last night.....on auto climb. 27k( :O ) i go level onto auto pilot. looking for the red guy i know is below me. guess where he was? above me. i climbed to 30k, and was co-alt. rather than fight me(it woulda been spit9 vs 38j) he chose to dive down to the buffs that were down at 10k.
Poor Cap, you forgot rule#1: There is always somebody higher than you!
The Wirbel-Gawd gladly welcomes all hordes! :aok
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I will say that the rooks had 40 more than the nits at one point.
The bish around 25 more.
When rox said I was worthless, I told him I could always go fly on the other side. He said good go fly with those losers. I was going to switch to one of the other sides when I landed but rox logged.
He seemed to have a short side kick, a mini me one might say. Bigred was following extremely close behind his fearless leader.
I'm thinking part of the number issue may be that folks don't care for armchair generals.
Me.... I just shoot the red guys.
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ill have to agree with you.
But the hording bases with 30 and 40 guys is just pathetic. I see most of the hording from the bish. Not saying any names. But youll always find the same people in the same crowd doing the same exact thing. :aok
+10 here. At the first sight of an enemy con that they can't vulch, they all run home!
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I tend to notice the same Golfr, but typically if one country is super low numbers in one arena; chances are they are hording the heck out of the other arena.
In the past month I have only had a handful of good fights, seems everyone is looking for quick easy kill. I had a really nice fight with Grizz the other night, I seen his 109 in fight with another Bish, so I patiently waited till he deplaned the other Bish. In the end he still got me, but to me it was a fun fight. I think anymore I look for the smaller dars vs mega furballs with the picks, HOs and runners.
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It seems every time I log on Knights
I didn't even need to go on as soon as I got here :lol
For some reason Knight country channel (maybe not more than the other country channels but I have to doubt it) is always full of one of four things;
1: ROOK & BISH GANGBANG OMG
2: ENY SO HIGH OMG GAME RIGGED AGAINST KNIGHTS
3: OMG GAME RIGGED AGAINST KNIGHTS I WAS ONLY 800 YARDS OUT HOW DO I SHOT GUNS
4: MISSHUN UP/OMG KNIGHTS PORK THE ORD YOU GUYS SUCK YOU NEVER WORK TOGETHER >:0
I usually have to squelch 3-5 people a day, not because they're cursing or getting into political arguments over country or whatever, but they won't shut up about the war. It's not even that I don't like the people, the constant whining just gets ridiculous.
Funny thing is that I hear the same things over 200 from people on other countries occasionally... and the knights will turn around like it never happens to anyone else (#1 that is)
It's ridiculous too...
A couple weeks ago people were complaining that ENY was approaching 20
Knights made up over 49% of the arena. Nearly half. Complaints continued after I pointed this out, of course...
A few days ago (yesterday maybe?) people were complaining about Rook-Bish peace... of course, when I brought up the map there was full darbar up and down the Rook-Bish front :rolleyes:
A big part of the problem (IMO) is that, on the knights side at least, there are a large amount of squads and people who should certainly know better who propagate the myth that the game is rigged against the knights. A lot of new players come in and see the people who organize missions/ take bases (which is a big draw for new players before they explore the game) complaining about this nonsense and then they believe it themselves. The whole thing just turns into a gigantic whine/feel bad about yourself fest.
Here's what I don't get. Even after the Rooks had their 40% from Knights, they continued to focus all they're efforts on us. If they had turned on the Bish they could have easily won the war.
Is it like I said before, they just go were the easy fight is, and don't care about winning, or what?
Probably half, if not significantly more, of the people in the game will just go wherever to find a fight. They don't care about the war in any way, shape, or form. The war is just a real estate game that resets every week at least. Once you win you get a sortie's worth of perks and then it starts over. Many people would rather spend their time having fun that mindlessly porking and going after bases.
To be honest, if I could squelch country channel, I would without anything approaching hesitation.
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It is not fun for me anymore either, UNLESS I am being attacked by at least two cons, but 3 to 5 is better, and when they attack in a uncountable "horde" that is when the blood really starts pumping :aok
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Chill and have fun. I don't about you all but I'm not paying $15 to be pissed off all the time.
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Probably half, if not significantly more, of the people in the game will just go wherever to find a fight. They don't care about the war in any way, shape, or form. The war is just a real estate game that resets every week at least. Once you win you get a sortie's worth of perks and then it starts over. Many people would rather spend their time having fun that mindlessly porking and going after bases.
If this is true (I think your partly right, but got the percentage way to high, and completely forgot about bombers), how come the DA is not more popular? Whenever I go in there it's usually pretty dead. Lots of bases in the DA seem to never get used at all. How come people don't move in there at one of the medium or high alt base pairs and start a fight?
I think it's because more people looking to find a fight, (as you put it) are actually looking for a lopsided horde they can join, or a field they can vulch, or low planes they can pick.
In short I think there are more people simply looking for easy kills, then looking for an actual fight.
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i know. in the past, when i've been on the same country as him, i've tried to mention to him, that he was gonna get himself chatbanned. tried to help him out. he's actually a pretty decent guy to fly with.
he just takes this stuff tooooooo seriously, and goes off the deep end.
that's why when gaf was tryin to get a 1-1 ......gaf in a c2, him in a pony.....i kinda told him gaf is a spit dweeb, and sucks in the c2....tryin to get him to fight.
gaf knew i was screwin' around.......but it didn't work anyway. :rofl :bolt:
I don't think anyone was upset with him. The game - any game - needs a little talking
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If this is true (I think your partly right, but got the percentage way to high, , how come the DA is not more popular? Whenever I go in there it's usually pretty dead. Lots of bases in the DA seem to never get used at all. How come people don't move in there at one of the medium or high alt base pairs and start a fight?
Because the DA is a cesspool populated only with former H2H players who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. The only useful thing to do in there is actually set up a 1v1 duel and hope it isn't interrupted (of course if you go more than 1v1 the aforementioned idiots seem to think it's a free for all and jump right in).
The other problem with the DA is that there is no variety, and shooting down bombers and whatnot is actually fun. The purpose of the war is to encourage fighting after all- it's the means to an end (the end being the fight). Unfortunately some people seem to think it's the other way around.
(and completely forgot about bombers)
I know of only one dedicated bomber squad in the game, and the impression I get from them is that they fly for the fun of it, and the 'fight' in their own way, and not so much about winning the war. They seem like upstanding guys to me.
I think it's because more people looking to find a fight, (as you put it) are actually looking for a lopsided horde they can join, or a field they can vulch, or low planes they can pick.
In short I think there are more people simply looking for easy kills, then looking for an actual fight.
There are definitely specifically guys going for this too. However, if I had the choice between vulching/ killing tons of low cons and flying to an undefended base and capturing it, I would definitely go for the former.
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I'm thinking part of the number issue may be that folks don't care for armchair generals.
I'm claiming that theory. ;)
I have a theory as to why Knights may have an issue with low numbers.
Being a little Napoleon is the new knight fad.
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If AH doesn't do something about the gangbanging, I'll be gone, not that anyone will care. I'd like to be on a team that wins occasionally but I could never be a rook or bish.
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If AH doesn't do something about the gangbanging, I'll be gone, not that anyone will care. I'd like to be on a team that wins occasionally but I could never be a rook or bish.
Bye! :aok
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I am a rook and pretty much only attack bish. Mainly b/c I can find more fair fights with them. Everytime I fight a knit I either if not all together get ho'ed, ganged, or picked. I rarely come across a good fight with a knit.
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If AH doesn't do something about the gangbanging, I'll be gone, not that anyone will care. I'd like to be on a team that wins occasionally but I could never be a rook or bish.
Don't worry about your 'team' winning, just set goals for yourself or try to get better at a facet of the game.... as long as you're having fun and improving, you're 'winning'.
I never know who I'm fighting, who's winning teh wor, who's got the most bases, ENY... just flying around killing people. If I've killed a few and made it back, I won. If I get shot down, I lose. Either way if I've had fun I win overall.
Relying on a bunch of people you don't know to have fun, especially when half those people are.... eh don't need to go there, is a formula for failure.
Of course if you just want to cry about the war, that's one less whiner I have to squelch on country.
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Because the DA is a cesspool populated only with former H2H players who couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. The only useful thing to do in there is actually set up a 1v1 duel and hope it isn't interrupted (of course if you go more than 1v1 the aforementioned idiots seem to think it's a free for all and jump right in).
Sad facts:
1) 69 people in the DA. I repeatedly ask if anyone is looking for a fight and I get no response. Only the whines about whose Temp picked whose Spit16
2) Player XYZ gets picked by well known vet (6 years plus in the game) and complains. Vet response "It is the DA dude. Are you new here?"
I'd ask for a fix but this is what we got after it was fixed. I still remember the time were the DA was the place to find the best fighters and learn from them. It was teh place you were guaranteed to find a fight. That is how I learned that there are other moves than the HO, gang or run to the ack that the squads I was in were teaching. A few idiots like JohnnyRa, JhonnyJr, BadBoy etc ruined it for every one. I still don't get why HT did what he did with it.
Can we at list change the name? It is misleading to a few of us :rofl
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It seems every time I log on Knights are getting gangbanged again. Cowardly rook and bish won't fight each other. Just look at today's map.
You rook and bish will say: "it happens to all teams equally". That is simply not true and you know it.
For the record, I NEVER participate in gangbangs. I always attack the team with the most bases and encourage my teammates to do the same. What fun/glory/satisfaction is there in attacking/crushing an opponent who has no chance of defending themselves because they're hopelessly outnumbered on two fronts?
I'm not whining, just stating facts. It's just frustrating and not fun getting your butt kicked every week because your two cowardly opponents have some sort of "agreement".
"Agreement", that's a hoot :lol
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The secret to a good furball even if it's lopsided against you.
Pray one of your green guys is a muppet. Suddenly you know which red guys are sticks and which aren't. If you want to land kills attack the hovering hoard staying away from the muppet in its 1 vs. many. Or, if you want a fight, pick on one of the queued up red guys harassing the muppet. If you use a spit1, spit5, I16 or a Brewster the hovering hoard gets confused and mistakes you for a muppet. When you get tired of being ganged, turn off ch200 and up a spit16. They get really offended when you show up in a spit16 for some reason.
Honestly when you bring a muppet with you to a lopsided hoarding furball you can't loose. The whole hoard panics and makes sure to kill the muppet first. You can sneak a minimum of 3 kills before the red guys remember you are there. If you are lucky, the muppet had so much fun making fools of the hoard its on its way back and the hoard will ignore you again. Instead of getting upset, use all the tools at your disposal.
Muppets love to attack hoards. Take advantage of the hoard while it's trying to kill the muppet..........Win - Win...... :banana:
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The secret to a good furball even if it's lopsided against you.
Pray one of your green guys is a muppet. Suddenly you know which red guys are sticks and which aren't. If you want to land kills attack the hovering hoard staying away from the muppet in its 1 vs. many. Or, if you want a fight, pick on one of the queued up red guys harassing the muppet. If you use a spit1, spit5, I16 or a Brewster the hovering hoard gets confused and mistakes you for a muppet. When you get tired of being ganged, turn off ch200 and up a spit16. They get really offended when you show up in a spit16 for some reason.
Honestly when you bring a muppet with you to a lopsided hoarding furball you can't loose. The whole hoard panics and makes sure to kill the muppet first. You can sneak a minimum of 3 kills before the red guys remember you are there. If you are lucky, the muppet had so much fun making fools of the hoard its on its way back and the hoard will ignore you again. Instead of getting upset, use all the tools at your disposal.
Muppets love to attack hoards. Take advantage of the hoard while it's trying to kill the muppet..........Win - Win...... :banana:
sounds a little Facetious to me, but never the less, mostly true :D :banana: :banana:
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Hey, I just tells it like I saw it last night up and down that stoopid canyon............. :old:
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tend to notice the same Golfr, but typically if one country is super low numbers in one arena; chances are they are hording the heck out of the other arena.
+1 If you can't handle being outnumberd you can always go to the other arena and horde some hapless bish or rook.
FWIW, I flew nit last night and had a blast. Teamed up with Shuffler, Silat, Birdo, reyno, and a couple of other guys and went to kill/frustrate the rook horde. I only had time for two sorties but mission accomplished, with the help of folks I've mentioned. Steve 11, Rooks 1.
Even managed to get several minutes of whines from hordeling Twentyfo. I killed him, then frustrated him in his attempt to get vengeance in his LA7. Good fun.
Thanks to those I mentioned as well as others. It was wave hopping, stick yanking good times. Special thanks to TwentyFo. I predicted whines from him and he deilvered right on Queue.
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It seems every time I log on Knights are getting gangbanged again. Cowardly rook and bish won't fight each other. Just look at today's map.
You rook and bish will say: "it happens to all teams equally". That is simply not true and you know it.
For the record, I NEVER participate in gangbangs. I always attack the team with the most bases and encourage my teammates to do the same. What fun/glory/satisfaction is there in attacking/crushing an opponent who has no chance of defending themselves because they're hopelessly outnumbered on two fronts?
I'm not whining, just stating facts. It's just frustrating and not fun getting your butt kicked every week because your two cowardly opponents have some sort of "agreement".
Go over to MW, the Knits are the gangbangers there.
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+1 If you can't handle being outnumberd you can always go to the other arena and horde some hapless bish or rook.
FWIW, I flew nit last night and had a blast. Teamed up with Shuffler, Silat, Birdo, reyno, and a couple of other guys and went to kill/frustrate the rook horde. I only had time for two sorties but mission accomplished, with the help of folks I've mentioned. Steve 11, Rooks 1.
Even managed to get several minutes of whines from hordeling Twentyfo. I killed him, then frustrated him in his attempt to get vengeance in his LA7. Good fun.
Thanks to those I mentioned as well as others. It was wave hopping, stick yanking good times. Special thanks to TwentyFo. I predicted whines from him and he deilvered right on Queue.
Agreed. Was fun down there. Soulyss came down there first and told us it was hopping. We (Silat and Myself)upped as soon as we landed up north. <S>
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I was thinking of posting an opinion on this topic anyways. . . I been at this game a little while and I noticed right away that big groups of people were willing to attack one guy already engaged by 3 or 4. There is no logic or strategy that can explain this strategy, it seems sheer laziness. That said, I have gotten in the habit of flying low avoiding many and dragging the gang back to their base, while this is occurring my country men are lifting and climbing and looking for incoming cons. By the time I die with 15 enemies low and slow behind me, we are at the base they started at, and my guys are at 8-10k enroute (hopefully, most have a tendency to loiter with the crowd attacking the one guy who didnt engage me). I do hate the ganging that occurs, especially when I am already attending to the 3 spit 16s and 2 nikis or Lalas show up ready for a head on collision. Someone mentioned ENY. . . does that effect anything? I've been hugely outnumbered by 20 planes with enys less than 8.0 (basically 51s nikis, spit16s, temps) whats up with that?
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I've been hugely outnumbered by 20 planes with enys less than 8.0 (basically 51s nikis, spit16s, temps) whats up with that?
Stormdag,
First off welcome to the game! I've been in that situation too, could be a number of factors really. Sometimes although in the area you are fighting, the enemy might have 10-20 less-than-10 ENY planes, but that might be the only place the team is fighting, therefore they seem to have more. If you get what I'm saying, generally this is not the case, ENY does have its flaws and many people would like to see it changed to in-flight or airfield-based.
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I really don't care, it's not like I was ever expecting to survive if i'm in a furball.
I get my fix for decent 1 on 1s in the DA whenever I need it.
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I really don't care, it's not like I was ever expecting to survive if i'm in a furball.
I get my fix for decent 1 on 1s in the DA whenever I need it.
You... you... you.... non-whiner you. You better get on board and stat. This kind of thinking just wont dooooooooooo. :P
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ill have to agree with you.
But the hording bases with 30 and 40 guys is just pathetic. I see most of the hording from the bish. Not saying any names. But youll always find the same people in the same crowd doing the same exact thing. :aok
So, if the attackers promise not bring more than 10 guys to attack a base, will the defenders promise not to use more than 10 people total in the manned ack, Gvs and aircraft?
I think when a base is attacked by alot of guys it provides some of the best fighting in the game, win or lose.
There is ALWAYS enough notice given to mount a good defense against any amount of attackers.
If there aren't enough guys available or willing to up for defense--oh well--who really cares if ya lose another base anyways?
They'll make more.
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+1 If you can't handle being outnumberd you can always go to the other arena and horde some hapless bish or rook.
The flaw in that approach is that if you're horribly outnumbered in one arena chances are you've got a horde on your side with a 29 ENY in the other. I know the response will be to switch sides, but I like fighting with the same folks consistently. I guess it's like the difference between amateur league play and pickup games at the park, either one has its fans.
As far as being outnumbered, there's a big difference between 3-2 and 5-1. I find being the one in a 5-1 only slightly more fun and interesting than being one of the five. Most of us just can't fight those odds effectively, especially when trying to defend a base or CV rather than flying with the sole aim of landing kills. And you don't learn much that way either, other than just to stay away from those situations, or at least stay 5k above them at all times - in a 1-1 or 2-1 I can usually figure out what mistake I made that got me killed, but in a 5-1 it usually seems like anything I could possibly do still results in at least one bad guy getting a good shot in.
Last night got so bad that I did what I rarely do and just gave up trying to fight the war and went around looking opportunities for smaller and more even fights. I did better than I would have trying to take or defend bases against the hordes, but it just isn't as fun for me. I like to having a larger something to play for, even if that something is itself imaginary.
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Just to be clear, as one whose only goal is the ruining of Aces High. There are no Knights. There are actually only two countries and each side has spies operating in the otherwise unoccupied Knight land. So what is seen as disorganized Knight resistance, is actually Rook and Bish pilots operating in a state of confusion as neither speak the same language.
Nonsense. We've always been at war with Eastasia.
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fighting multiple cons isn't always bad. Its good practice and its fun! it only sucks when you get picked while taking a shot and the guy you killed dies after you do, and someone else gets a freebie kill. By the way, the canyon last night was tons of fun, w/ or wo/ Muppets. Always, fun upping a G14 and fighting until the only people are left are Kermit, Grizz, me and a few others... (only to get killed by kermit again :) )
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Gang bang happens on ALL sides. There is not a single country that gets gangbanged more than any other.
True, but that doesn't make it any less irritating - there's no fun in having the horde on your side to compensate for the unfun of getting ganged the day before.
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no one makes you fly to a sector swarmed with enemy, choose your engagments more carefully and you wont be getting gang banged
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Been here years...it happnes in cycles...knights will be out of the barrel soon enough. I'm sure none of the knights will be briping then about not being able to take off. No , instead you'll hear griping about no fights or they can't get any kills cause others vulch better. Hangars are down....yadda yadda yadda.
I've been cussed out and called names for not toolshedding.....
Cussed out and called names for not furballing....
Cussed out and called names for not deacking.....
Cussed at and called names for not doing something some lil general thought I needed to do to help HIS cause.....when I'm fighting the very horde he's griping about.
I've been a knight for almost ALL of my time in AH....gopnna stay one. Knights do NOT work well together....some squads do but for the most part IMHO Knights just don't do well.
Case in point.
Yeasterday....the squad I'm in decided to go and run a squad mission to bomb A16 and take the heat off A52. Knights were really having a hard time.
We completely flattened that base. All but 4 buildings were down...FIghters down...Bombers dwon...Vehicles down....ords gone...troops dead....deacked....basically flatter than a pancake. 3 hours later......A16 was still an enemy base. We even TOLD them (the knights that were there) that it was flat. We killed about 12 fighters that were up. Nothing happened.
The squad I'm in doesn't do toolshedding much....just never been our deal.
Yet the very thing the knights needed...asked for...all happened and they still didn't take it.
This is normal.
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Getting ganged happens to the best of us, my general strategy is not to fly into 15 red guys if I want to make it out alive that is. So why do guys do it when it doesn't make strategic sense? Because everyone is playing for themselves, yes they are doing this for fun and partly for the cartoon country and squad but there isn't really a guy who's going to tell you to leave a con alone and return to formation. You won't get scolded on the ground for not following an order from some armchair general, which is great of course. Someone sees an enemy and turns to engage, I try my best to not be part of the huge hoard, if there are 2 or 3 guys on him, they should have it handled. I know what happens often is that you may turn to engage a plane and not see the guys around you, below or above, even to the sides. No peripherals in this game, also no threat of running into friendly planes. I don't think there are usually too many experienced players at the back of that comet trail (or "con"et trail :x). Gangin up happens because we can do whatever we want in this game, and I sure hope they don't change that.
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You... you... you.... non-whiner you. You better get on board and stat. This kind of thinking just wont dooooooooooo. :P
hehehehe!
:rock
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+1 If you can't handle being outnumberd you can always go to the other arena and horde some hapless bish or rook.
FWIW, I flew nit last night and had a blast. Teamed up with Shuffler, Silat, Birdo, reyno, and a couple of other guys and went to kill/frustrate the rook horde. I only had time for two sorties but mission accomplished, with the help of folks I've mentioned. Steve 11, Rooks 1.
Even managed to get several minutes of whines from hordeling Twentyfo. I killed him, then frustrated him in his attempt to get vengeance in his LA7. Good fun.
Thanks to those I mentioned as well as others. It was wave hopping, stick yanking good times. Special thanks to TwentyFo. I predicted whines from him and he deilvered right on Queue.
The fight between A5 and A62 on Baltic was jumping most the day, other than a few sorties in a vain attempt to stem the rook horde at P7 that's where I spent a lot my AH time on Sunday and had some good fights, I even got called a hacker and cheater at one point which was just icing on the cake. :)
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Been here years...it happnes in cycles...knights will be out of the barrel soon enough. I'm sure none of the knights will be briping then about not being able to take off. No , instead you'll hear griping about no fights or they can't get any kills cause others vulch better. Hangars are down....yadda yadda yadda.
I've been cussed out and called names for not toolshedding.....
Cussed out and called names for not furballing....
Cussed out and called names for not deacking.....
Cussed at and called names for not doing something some lil general thought I needed to do to help HIS cause.....when I'm fighting the very horde he's griping about.
I've been a knight for almost ALL of my time in AH....gopnna stay one. Knights do NOT work well together....some squads do but for the most part IMHO Knights just don't do well.
Case in point.
Yeasterday....the squad I'm in decided to go and run a squad mission to bomb A16 and take the heat off A52. Knights were really having a hard time.
We completely flattened that base. All but 4 buildings were down...FIghters down...Bombers dwon...Vehicles down....ords gone...troops dead....deacked....basically flatter than a pancake. 3 hours later......A16 was still an enemy base. We even TOLD them (the knights that were there) that it was flat. We killed about 12 fighters that were up. Nothing happened.
The squad I'm in doesn't do toolshedding much....just never been our deal.
Yet the very thing the knights needed...asked for...all happened and they still didn't take it.
This is normal.
amen!
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If AH doesn't do something about the gangbanging, I'll be gone, not that anyone will care. I'd like to be on a team that wins occasionally but I could never be a rook or bish.
Sorry to say, but if this is your attitude, then the problem you face is of your own making.
If the land war means so much to you, I suggest changing sides to the bishops. All three sides have all kinds of players, but on the whole, at the times I normally fly, the Bishops seem to be the chess piece that takes the ground game the "most seriously." By that I mean they fly missions to take bases, will defend bases, come to help when asked, etc. more often than rooks or knights. You truly may feel more "at home" there.
The squad I am in rotates countries on a regular basis. As I said, all three have all kinds of players. But for your "style" of gameplay, I would suggest a change of scenery would help your enjoyment.
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..............<KICKS DESK>..............gets detention.......throws gum at teacher.....more detention....sent to principals office........more detention.......i dont wanna goto school anymore.
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..............<KICKS DESK>..............gets detention.......throws gum at teacher.....more detention....sent to principals office........more detention.......i dont wanna goto school anymore.
You dummy. Grab a girl and get caught in the bathroom if you want to get in trouble. Greens, I thought it was too cold to chew gum there.
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Gangbanging only works because team about to reset soon or team with numbers say only hitting mostly knights. Rooks or bish who ever is not resetting will hit knights to because its easy to take bases kill guys spread out defending. The teams being reset would turn attention to team with most bases and players maps would never change. as for midwar rooks use to milk all knight for resets. now alot rooks changed to knights because now knights roll during mid day. but again you ';ll see 15 knights hitting 3 rooks and the 5 bish on hitting rooks too. because smaller numbers easy base takes. its said but happens alot. i main arena other day rooks were 1 base form nits reset. where were knights fighting at bish base. because rooks were hitting only bish to get fields for reset knight s wanted easy bases and less enemy to fight. only vets change to fly and kill hordes the noobs want easy mode. I've see 7 rooks milking knight bases in morning and I'm only knight on and next thing 4 bish on milking knights to. so until they grow up and want to fight for kills or bases it won't change.
whats funny is you change to low numbers you always hear "F$!%$# traitor if u come back I'll never clear your 6 or help".this always makes me laugh its a freaking game no such thing as traitors. spy's yes but then again its mostly kids or simple minds doing it.
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It seems every time I log on Knights are getting gangbanged again. Cowardly rook and bish won't fight each other. Just look at today's map.
You rook and bish will say: "it happens to all teams equally". That is simply not true and you know it.
For the record, I NEVER participate in gangbangs. I always attack the team with the most bases and encourage my teammates to do the same. What fun/glory/satisfaction is there in attacking/crushing an opponent who has no chance of defending themselves because they're hopelessly outnumbered on two fronts?
I'm not whining, just stating facts. It's just frustrating and not fun getting your butt kicked every week because your two cowardly opponents have some sort of "agreement".
golfr...have you ever flown bish? or rook? my squadies and i love to change countries and fly with our friends on other sides, however, bish are the under dogs, you might say that the nits are but if you have flown on other sides then you would realize that it is the same on all sides. the only side you dont hear whinnin bout the horde are the rooks, bish and nits always have a complaint. i am not condoning gangbanging and i ask before i dive in on a fight to help save someone but i would rather have 1v1 any day, but that is why HTC gave us the DA. I would be happy to fight you when you are on, just give me a holla!
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By all means, go right ahead. I need more free kills. :t
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what tree you gonna use against me?
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what tree you gonna use against me?
Are you trying to say his BARK is worse than his bite?
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Are you trying to say his BARK is worse than his bite?
:aok
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wasn't the MA split up to prevent what the title implies
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wasn't the MA split up to prevent what the title implies
:lol Lets split them again then? :devil
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wasn't the MA split up to prevent what the title implies
No it was not.
HiTech
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wasn't the MA split up to prevent what the title implies
It was so HTC could make more money. :banana:
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It provides the cutomers with more choice :cheers:
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No it was not.
HiTech
The split happened so that HiTech and crew could switch sides without all the armchair generals knowing about it :D
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I fly rook but I'll agree. In the sense of quality over quantity. Bish are the underdog. Some nights I know I've changed sides. When 4 new guys are asking how to raise gear. Then I tell Betty she flys better with them down! :D
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Sorry I started this thread.....
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Sorry I started this thread.....
Don't be sorry..ya have a gripe...so ya got it out. Proper forum? not sure. However...what ya have to understand is this....and I speak from BOTH sides of the coin.
Furballers/Fighter guys just want to fight. Take that away at a spot when it wasn't really needed an you'll get grief.
Toolshedders/land grab guys want to be strategist and win a war for thier side. Put up to much of a fight and they get discouraged cause things don't go like clock work and they complain.
It's a cycle.
Rooks have been in the barrel. I know cause I was on one of the sides that kept them there. For a few months to. Bish have been in the barrel. Same thing. Knights are in it now. They'll continue to be for a while. then it will start all over again with Rook or Bish getting hammered.
Those that switch sides do it mainly for a fight. IMHO there fore when they DO get the knights numbers up , they aren't what the generals needed really to help themselves win the war. All they got was a bigger furball :lol
If the knights could ever get thier heads together , and get LIKE minded people to do the base taking they so love to do....but LEAVE the furball alone....then they could make some headway.
When you have guys , and I can only speak to the knights side....Yellin at people cause they came to some fight light , or they're not doing what they WANT them to do , or yellin at them for not porking someplce or not killing a CV or not deacking , eventually they will just do there own thing and say screw it.
Hordes run on all sides....get enough guys together and no matter the opposition you'll get the base....KEEP them together for more than 1 take maybe 2 and you've accomplished a major offensive. Find some squads on the knight side that can work with you...then you'll be able to do some damage.
Continue the way the knights do now...which is mostly unorganised and they will stay in the barrel. Cause no matter how the rooks and bish will toot thier horn.....they like having the knights down...they will continue to gangbang and enjoy it...cause they are no differant and like an easy fight as well.
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No it was not.
HiTech
HiTech
Its spelled Know it was knot.
Trust me :)
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Sorry I started this thread.....
naa, we all knew this would be a big one when we read the title. What else are these guys going to do if they can't type on here and feel important. :old: :neener:
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naa, we all knew this would be a big one when we read the title. What else are these guys going to do if they can't type on here and feel important. :old: :neener:
^^ like that guy
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^^ like that guy
I'm can't argue with that. :lol
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9 pages of drivel and we still have not got to the point. Put a local ENY on fields, perk the spit16, and for god's sake turn down the puffy ack(if that wasnt in the last patch). Open to suggestions. . . :cheers:
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9 pages of drivel and we still have not got to the point. Put a local ENY on fields, perk the spit16, and for god's sake turn down the puffy ack(if that wasnt in the last patch). Open to suggestions. . . :cheers:
or, just go find another fight somewhere else.
oo...wait....too easy of an answer. :aok :neener:
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Here is a fun anti gang bang game: Up a niki and HO the waves of guys who come in. Once you get good at it you can easily bag 4 before one gets really frustrated and rams you :t
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Here is a fun anti gang bang game: Up a niki and HO the waves of guys who come in. Once you get good at it you can easily bag 4 before one gets really frustrated and rams you :t
Get good at Hoin in a Nik1!
Change you can believe in. :aok
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Here is a fun anti gang bang game: Up a niki and HO the waves of guys who come in. Once you get good at it you can easily bag 4 before one gets really frustrated and rams you :t
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an even better one is to up a 16 get some ALT on the bad guys and just kill as many as you can, out fly them, HOing will not teach you anything!!
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an even better one is to up a 16 get some ALT on the bad guys and just kill as many as you can, out fly them, HOing will not teach you anything!!
it'ss show most the path back to the cartoon tower. :bolt:
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9 pages of drivel and we still have not got to the point. Put a local ENY on fields, perk the spit16, and for god's sake turn down the puffy ack(if that wasnt in the last patch). Open to suggestions. . . :cheers:
I seriously do not see any reason to perk any of the trainers. The new folks flying them make them very vulnerable.
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I seriously do not see any reason to perk any of the trainers. The new folks flying them make them very vulnerable.
very true, until someone who is in one who knows how to use it, then it makes for a great fight! or a quick trip to the tower for that unlucky 38 driver :P
although I do think the 16 deserves a small perk, and the 14 needs to be unperked.
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I don't like gang bangs as much as the next guy/knight, but I found a revalutionary solution
Deal with it. :aok
Works everytime
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I seriously do not see any reason to perk any of the trainers. The new folks flying them make them very vulnerable.
I agree, please don't perk the 38s. Some people need the extra engine until they learn how to fly :D
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I agree, please don't perk the 38s. Some people need the extra engine until they learn how to fly :D
the 38 in it's proper use is easy mode :aok
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the 38 in it's proper use is easy mode :aok
ANY aircraft in its PROPER use is easy mode. :neener: :aok
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ANY aircraft in its PROPER use is easy mode. :neener: :aok
every try and shoot any planes with a C47 :neener:? you have to force them to auger....
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every try and shoot any planes with a C47 :neener:? you have to force them to auger....
but then you're not using it properly....... :neener: :banana: :bolt:
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:rofl :rofl
an even better one is to up a 16 get some ALT on the bad guys and just kill as many as you can, out fly them, HOing will not teach you anything!!
The point isn't to teach you a lesson, it's to teach them a lesson!
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Fly a Fighter Sweep at 20k+ over the hoard with 10 or 12 fighters. It tends to break the hoards momentum as you push them down to the green cherrys near the ground they thought were safe to pick. Most of the hoard is up high because they don't want to fight, just pick. So it rattles them to see 10 or 12 fighters above them. You now place the hoard between the vertical horns of a dilemma allowing the low flying green freindlies to start picking back at the low hanging red friut.
Pigs do sweeps like this frequently. Busts the hoards momentum because their security is about hiding in the vertical. When we are at squad critical mass we have flown these sweeps with over 20 fighters. Very few in this community fight very well above 15k. A few times a month when the Knights have their act together, our high alt fighter sweeps have allowed the players defending the knight base against the hoard to mount a counter attack and shut down the hoard completley.
Most of the time though the knights don't get it together with a counter strike and hoard waveII is arriving as the Pigs are landing.
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Fly a Fighter Sweep at 20k+ over the hoard with 10 or 12 fighters. It tends to break the hoards momentum as you push them down to the green cherrys near the ground they thought were safe to pick. Most of the hoard is up high because they don't want to fight, just pick. So it rattles them to see 10 or 12 fighters above them. You now place the hoard between the vertical horns of a dilemma allowing the low flying green freindlies to start picking back at the low hanging red friut.
Pigs do sweeps like this frequently. Busts the hoards momentum because their security is about hiding in the vertical. When we are at squad critical mass we have flown these sweeps with over 20 fighters. Very few in this community fight very well above 15k. A few times a month when the Knights have their act together, our high alt fighter sweeps have allowed the players defending the knight base against the hoard to mount a counter attack and shut down the hoard completley.
Most of the time though the knights don't get it together with a counter strike and hoard waveII is arriving as the Pigs are landing.
the other fun thing is to try to sneak into an area where there's one or two cherry pickers. be near their starting alt. do whatever you have to do to not be noticed by them.
then when you're in positon, pick the pickers. it is soooooooooooooooooo much fun. :rofl :rofl :aok
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I've also had luck taking a couple people and running over towards the hordes field and then popping up to 5k or so right in their face and catching them on climb out. Usually means your outnumbered but if you have a couple good wingies you can tie up the hordes stream of reinforcements for a couple minutes and give the rest of your team a chance to deal with the horde near your own field. If you can keep them occupied long enough it can swing the battle back in your favor and push the fight back towards the middle.
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What is the CPID that you fly under?
(testing a theory)
Hey Lute, its me S1n1ster.
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It's kind of sad in a way that missions seem primairily associated to base taking.
The Pigs have found full squad fighter sweeps work with fantastic results destabalising hoard momentum. I watch the bish and rook night after night send waves of fighters to a base while waves of bomber boxes fly over taking out everything on the targeted base. I never see knight missions with the goal of getting 20+ fighters above 15k between the feild under attack and the incoming hoards. But I watch 20 to 30 knights flying around the base in the bushes being slaughtered and reupping to be killed again. The whining about the bish rook hoarding gets to me the most when they have so many tools at their disposal to defeat them.
Two or three fighter sweep missions back to back will kill an assault hoard. By the second or third, even with the first 20 plane sweep you will be vulching uppers over the enemy feild. Last night the Pigs ran a sweep which resulted in the knights who were defending from bush level moving to vulching at the enemy feild who 10 minutes earlier had them all scurrying in the grass being picked.
*Note: I have seen sporadic fighter sweep missions over the years. But, they usually give up alt as a group to pig out on the first low cons they see thus eliminating themselves strategicly. The goal is to stay on station at 20k+ to force the enemy down and denigh him the SAFE PICK. Now days when the Pigs do hoard busting fighter sweeps, our rule is get on station and not give up the high gound. It's only a phsychological advantage to see us up there, but that seems to be enough for the low flying knights.
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ANY aircraft in its PROPER use is easy mode. :neener: :aok
no not really, P-40, F6,Fm2, spit1 or Hurri1, F4U, those and more, definitely are not easy mode even if flown in there element. I would even go so far as to say the 109's.
I do understand what you are saying. if any plane is flown by a "uber" stick it is dangerous. and I agree :aok
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It's kind of sad in a way that missions seem primairily associated to base taking.
The Pigs have found full squad fighter sweeps work with fantastic results destabalising hoard momentum. I watch the bish and rook night after night send waves of fighters to a base while waves of bomber boxes fly over taking out everything on the targeted base. I never see knight missions with the goal of getting 20+ fighters above 15k between the feild under attack and the incoming hoards. But I watch 20 to 30 knights flying around the base in the bushes being slaughtered and reupping to be killed again. The whining about the bish rook hoarding gets to me the most when they have so many tools at their disposal to defeat them.
Two or three fighter sweep missions back to back will kill an assault hoard. By the second or third, even with the first 20 plane sweep you will be vulching uppers over the enemy feild. Last night the Pigs ran a sweep which resulted in the knights who were defending from bush level moving to vulching at the enemy feild who 10 minutes earlier had them all scurrying in the grass being picked.
*Note: I have seen sporadic fighter sweep missions over the years. But, they usually give up alt as a group to pig out on the first low cons they see thus eliminating themselves strategicly. The goal is to stay on station at 20k+ to force the enemy down and denigh him the SAFE PICK. Now days when the Pigs do hoard busting fighter sweeps, our rule is get on station and not give up the high gound. It's only a phsychological advantage to see us up there, but that seems to be enough for the low flying knights.
There is another squad that does this quite often.
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There is another squad that does this quite often.
I wonder who those dweebs could be?
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There is another squad that does this quite often.
Well next time your squad is flying knights under the bish/rook shadow, give the Pigs a shout. We love flying herd on them from 20k....................
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Well next time your squad is flying knights under the bish/rook shadow, give the Pigs a shout. We love flying herd on them from 20k....................
Which pigs? :devil
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It seems every time I log on Knights are getting gangbanged again. Cowardly rook and bish won't fight each other. Just look at today's map.
You rook and bish will say: "it happens to all teams equally". That is simply not true and you know it.
For the record, I NEVER participate in gangbangs. I always attack the team with the most bases and encourage my teammates to do the same. What fun/glory/satisfaction is there in attacking/crushing an opponent who has no chance of defending themselves because they're hopelessly outnumbered on two fronts?
I'm not whining, just stating facts. It's just frustrating and not fun getting your butt kicked every week because your two cowardly opponents have some sort of "agreement".
But think of the positive of being in that situation, you get better with your ACM. But there are limitations to what you are up against.
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gangbang... do you mean like this? & they still didn't get the base...
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Hey Lute, its me S1n1ster.
whelp... so much for my theory.
You should put y'er flying name in a Sig so we know who ya' are.
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Which pigs? :devil
:huh :rofl
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So you got me curious. What was the theory?
S1n
whelp... so much for my theory.
You should put y'er flying name in a Sig so we know who ya' are.
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So you got me curious. What was the theory?
S1n
the theory is that although it's getting cooler, it's really getting warmer.
let me explain.
see.........we're making pollution. this pollution insulates us from the sun. if we were to clean up this pollution, then the temp. would rise.
so see? we ARE making global warming. :noid :noid :noid
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So you got me curious. What was the theory?
S1n
[theory]
I have found that in threads like this you can make a direct correlation to their attitude on the subject with their ability to fly/fight
[/theory]
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[theory]
I have found that in threads like this you can make a direct correlation to their attitude on the subject with their ability to fly/fight
[/theory]
Ouch :lol That's sig material :aok
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God forbid it warm up and we can make food for the starving 3rd world countries.
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Some people seem to have misunderstood "gangbanging". I was referring to the map and bases, not fighter fights.
If you want to take your fighter against multiple enemies, good luck. It seems many/most players here just want to furball, that's fine if that's what they like.
I prefer taking territory. I don't fly fighters because I suck in them.
The gangbang is on again this week.....
It would seem that the rook and bish fighter pilots want overwhelming odds and easy kills. That is why I referred to them as "cowardly". Wouldn't you feel better about yourselves if you went up against the odds or AT LEAST even odds?
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Some people seem to have misunderstood "gangbanging". I was referring to the map and bases, not fighter fights.
I don't fly fighters because I suck in them.
NOW SEE?
i fly fighters because i DO suck in em.
someday, i might not. :aok
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I'm not really sure what that means in my case but I guess it doesn't really matter. I invest no ego into this game at all.
[theory]
I have found that in threads like this you can make a direct correlation to their attitude on the subject with their ability to fly/fight
[/theory]