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General Forums => Wishlist => Topic started by: Shamrock on January 27, 2010, 07:12:29 PM
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look guys...as many of you say, "yes i would like this plane, but many AC need to be added first"
well as a matter of fact...yes... many do need to be added BUUUUUUT only 2 have been added in the past few months if im not mistaken....(ive been out fer a while on account of my broken growth plate and internet difficulties) but if planes have yet to b added but ARENT added...then lets get the ones that need to be added IN THA FREAKEN GAME ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i want my B-29 i want my Beaufighter i want my Tigercat my Bearcat (if possible) my P-61, Oscar, i want new skins and i want new planes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :pray :pray :pray :pray :joystick:
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I want a million bucks, aint gunna happen. F7F and F8F did not see combat. B29 won't be seen for a while. Would like the Beaufighter. HTC is a team of 6 or 8, not EA games. They work for quality, not quantity. Keep dreamin kid.
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You will see 4 new planes soon. Well hopefully soon.
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You will see 4 new planes soon. Well hopefully soon.
Dont forget the new damage model that the 4 new planes will be introduced with too!
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Dont forget the new damage model that the 4 new planes will be introduced with too!
I think I'm more excited about that, unless they sneak a WWI bomber into that. That would be fun (for a few min... :lol)
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Who let the dork out of the bag ! :neener:
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfLD-7bCtME (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfLD-7bCtME)
I want it all!
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I want it NOW!! (Veruca Salt)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dU7nG3KvZDA
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I want an answer to the tator bug :noid :bolt:
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I want world peace..... But that watermelon ain't going to happen either!
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I want:
5 million dollars
1 package of oreo cookies
2 gallons of milk
another custom built computer
G6 GXP
But I only have $200, no cookies or milk(will buy later on today), have to wait for tax return for computer and am quite content with my G6 V6(still want the GXP though) :rofl
As for aircraft, http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/index.php/topic,282655.0.html, this will be a good place for some additions. Mind you, HTC staff won't bother with this poll, if what I've gathered is correct. :lol It may just annoy the daylights out of them, if anything. :rofl
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Why cant people just stop thinking of reason's why the B29 shouldn't be in here and just start thinking why it should be in here.
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Maybe because we are afraid of what it would do to gameplay?
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Maybe because we are afraid of what it would do to gameplay?
I'm more afraid of 13 wing 135 people squads, and 50 person NOEs ruining game play, than adding a highly perked bomber to AH.
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Maybe because we are afraid of what it would do to gameplay?
I'm more afraid of 13 wing 135 people squads, and 50 person NOEs ruining game play, than adding a highly perked bomber to AH.
I do not want to hijack this thread, but I stepped into this mudslinging contest about what is good/bad for gameplay in AH multiple times this past year. Not you 2 gentlemen specifically, but the community in general. I would like to see the B-29 but I can see it's impact on gameplay if flown historically, and I do think there is a problem with large (and I mean large NOE missions for base capture). Both have their relevant points.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfLD-7bCtME (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfLD-7bCtME)
I want it all!
Be a little more original (http://www.603squadron.co.cc/greed.html).
look guys...as many of you say, "yes i would like this plane, but many AC need to be added first"
well as a matter of fact...yes... many do need to be added BUUUUUUT only 2 have been added in the past few months if im not mistaken....(ive been out fer a while on account of my broken growth plate and internet difficulties) but if planes have yet to b added but ARENT added...then lets get the ones that need to be added IN THA FREAKEN GAME ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i want my B-29 i want my Beaufighter i want my Tigercat my Bearcat (if possible) my P-61, Oscar, i want new skins and i want new planes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :pray :pray :pray :pray :joystick:
Sure, why not? Lead the way and start programming today!
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Why cant people just stop thinking of reason's why the B29 shouldn't be in here and just start thinking why it should be in here.
Because the reasons why it should not be added at this stage of the game far out numbers why it should be added. That good enough or do I have to type it slower for you to finally understand?
ack-ack
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I'm actually curious to see you, or somebody with real data, to show us the 2 lists? For & Against it's addition.
Because the reasons why it should not be added at this stage of the game far out numbers why it should be added. That good enough or do I have to type it slower for you to finally understand?
ack-ack
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They have been published in the past yet for some reason never accepted. The method of rejection greatly resembled that of gorillas in D.C.
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I do not want to hijack this thread, but I stepped into this mudslinging contest about what is good/bad for gameplay in AH multiple times this past year. Not you 2 gentlemen specifically, but the community in general. I would like to see the B-29 but I can see it's impact on gameplay if flown historically,
because you know, for the most part it WILL NOT BE FLOWN HISTORICALLY... oh look! the dive bombing B29's are here ! :rolleyes:
and I do think there is a problem with large (and I mean large NOE missions for base capture). Both have their relevant points.
Because there is no defense for it so people then AVOID it. Instead of creating COMBAT in a COMBAT game you create hordes racing each other to "win the war"
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because you know, for the most part it WILL NOT BE FLOWN HISTORICALLY... oh look! the dive bombing B29's are here ! :rolleyes:
Because there is no defense for it so people then AVOID it. Instead of creating COMBAT in a COMBAT game you create hordes racing each other to "win the war"
Yep & Yep
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Yep & Yep
What I win, What I win? :x
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What I win, What I win? :x
:rofl
(http://www.plasticvicar.com/drop/gold-star-big.png)
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Sir JPEG strikes again.
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because you know, for the most part it WILL NOT BE FLOWN HISTORICALLY... oh look! the dive bombing B29's are here ! :rolleyes:
Because there is no defense for it so people then AVOID it. Instead of creating COMBAT in a COMBAT game you create hordes racing each other to "win the war"
There is that, but the way I look at it is this: at a 1.0 perk value of 350 P(my proposed perk value) per plane a dive bombing B-29 will be the super target.
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There is that, but the way I look at it is this: at a 1.0 perk value of 350 P(my proposed perk value) per plane a dive bombing B-29 will be the super target.
Make that a 4.0 perk value of 350 and I'll consider voting for it instead of against it. We have the Lancstukas now, imagine 22,000 lbs of b29superstuka dropping on a base with defense weapons that the pile-it never has to switch positions to ping you from 1.5k out accurately.
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There is that, but the way I look at it is this: at a 1.0 perk value of 350 P(my proposed perk value) per plane a dive bombing B-29 will be the super target.
You would seriously perk the 29 more than the 262??
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Yep, its a bigger threat!
262 has a very limited amount of 30mm. B29 has an incredible amount of .50 ammo from not 1, not 2 but 3 planes. All firing at the same target. Once you get inside bomber convergence range 400 - 600 look out. Cause every gun that can see you is going to hit you at the same time.
Plus that same formation of bombers is going to be hard to catch. Going to be like trying to catch B17's with a Zeke.
Doable, but a long slow painful process. And all that time that your closing from 1.0k in, he can be ripping you to shreds.
If he's smart enough to use auto angle and put it into a slight dive that time is going to be even longer.
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Yep, its a bigger threat!
262 has a very limited amount of 30mm. B29 has an incredible amount of .50 ammo from not 1, not 2 but 3 planes. All firing at the same target. Once you get inside bomber convergence range 400 - 600 look out. Cause every gun that can see you is going to hit you at the same time.
Plus that same formation of bombers is going to be hard to catch. Going to be like trying to catch B17's with a Zeke.
Doable, but a long slow painful process. And all that time that your closing from 1.0k in, he can be ripping you to shreds.
If he's smart enough to use auto angle and put it into a slight dive that time is going to be even longer.
Don't forget to add that without a perk cost or even a low perk cost, the B-29 would render all other bombers to essentially hanger queen status.
ack-ack
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people always ask for "gap fillers" or other planes that have "historic" significance. So HTC adds planes like the Brewster, and the... whatever that other little thing was.. people fly them for a day or 2 and then you seldom see them.
then they add planes that actually have some purpose and use in the bulk aspect of the game (MA) like the M Jug, and they got flown alot.
so.. better investment of time.. aircraft that are "novel" and will be used by 5% of the player base regularly, and largely ignored by the rest.. or aircraft that will actually be seen in the skies more than once in a blue moon..
not my decision of course, just thinking out loud.
Ive been thinking... Should I add a remote starter to my truck, so when its hot i can start it early and cool her down, or when its cold start her early and warm her up, aside from a month or 2 in spring and fall when the temp is "just right" I would use it almost every day.. Or.. should I put a winch on my truck... I never go off road, except once in a great while when I go to the coast, and then I never get stuck.. but 1 day I might use it... hmmm.. which is the better justified purchase...
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Don't forget to add that without a perk cost or even a low perk cost, the B-29 would render all other bombers to essentially hanger queen status.
ack-ack
Not too sure about that.
I would give it a shot with a perk cost that wasn't astronomical and see what happens from there.
If it turns out to have a huge impact on the game, adjust accordingly.
But I would also give it a little time before adjustment to allow for the initial high usage (and abusage) that most new planes receive.
And as far as 29stukas go, I think I would probably see that as often as I see the infamous "Lancstukas", which isn't very often. :salute
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limit the 29 to only large airfields, high perk cost.. done..
sure lots of people have many thousands of perks, but if they fly the 29 exclusivly and abuse it like so many people fear, they will in good time run out.
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They have been published in the past yet for some reason never accepted. The method of rejection greatly resembled that of gorillas in D.C.
true dat!!!!
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people always ask for "gap fillers" or other planes that have "historic" significance. So HTC adds planes like the Brewster, and the... whatever that other little thing was.. people fly them for a day or 2 and then you seldom see them.
then they add planes that actually have some purpose and use in the bulk aspect of the game (MA) like the M Jug, and they got flown alot.
so.. better investment of time.. aircraft that are "novel" and will be used by 5% of the player base regularly, and largely ignored by the rest.. or aircraft that will actually be seen in the skies more than once in a blue moon..
not my decision of course, just thinking out loud.
yes thats true but remember this....i used to see the BREW alot bot hardly anymore....we already have all the historic planes lets add some...but i understand wre ur coming from :salute
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And don't allow formations.
limit the 29 to only large airfields, high perk cost.. done..
sure lots of people have many thousands of perks, but if they fly the 29 exclusivly and abuse it like so many people fear, they will in good time run out.
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No offense but that's not viable, your limiting a plane defense and offensive capabilities by doing that. Effectively you would turn the B-29 into a little faster, more weakly armed set of B-17s.
B-17 ordnance carried per set ~18,000lbs...
B-29 ordnance carried per plane ~16,000 lbs...
Even with ~50 mph (at 30K) disadvantage I would rather take the defense ability and survival rate of a set. By the time you add perk cost the B-17 would win out handily, perk em or make em singles. Not both....
Strip
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If/when the B-29 is added it will have the following:
No nuke.
Formations enabled.
A high perk cost.
All of that is obvious. As to the high perk cost, HTC seems to prefer adjusting down to adjusting up.
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then they add planes that actually have some purpose and use in the bulk aspect of the game (MA) like the M Jug, and they got flown alot.
What purpose and use in the bulk of the game are you referring to? The M Jug was another gap filler one of the few for late war setups. It has no air to ground ability for fighting teh warz! So how does that help in the bulk aspect of the game?
Other than the die hard P-47 fans who fly the plane for the pure love of it. The Ms biggest use is by people who want to boom and zoom furballs with little or no chance of being killed. Pretty much what your average B-29 beggar wants. All the advantage and little chance of having to deal with the inconvenience of having to fight.
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lmao Shifty....
aboYour arguement is so ludicrous its insane, to insinuate that all B-29 fans are merely requesting it to avoid a fight is retarded.
The B-29 is probably the best piston powered heavy bomber ever built, most certainly built in WW2. It was responsible for ending the war in the Pacific and would have bombed Japan into the ground even without the atom bomb. How much ordnance did the B-29 drop, how many sorties, how many built? The reasons for wanting the B-29 are numerous, not specifically to avoid a fight. After all the Me-262, and the Ar-234 have a legitimate case for being "untouchable" under those terms.
Strip
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lmao Shifty....
aboYour arguement is so ludicrous its insane, to insinuate that all B-29 fans are merely requesting it to avoid a fight is retarded.
The B-29 is probably the best piston powered heavy bomber ever built, most certainly built in WW2. It was responsible for ending the war in the Pacific and would have bombed Japan into the ground even without the atom bomb. How much ordnance did the B-29 drop, how many sorties, how many built? The reasons for wanting the B-29 are numerous, not specifically to avoid a fight. After all the Me-262, and the Ar-234 have a legitimate case for being "untouchable" under those terms.
Strip
I said average B-29 beggar not every B-29 fan. Strip you should never put yourself in a position where somebody who's statement you just discribed as insane and retarded has to correct you. Unless of course you're the actual insane retard... Then by all means carry on. :aok
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Since we have gone completely into Hijack Mode...........
I have seen countless people not be able to bomb a dam thing........ We can sit here and call it precision bombing all we want......... But it's only precise for about 59 of us.
The rest of them will drop 4 1k (4x3 in formation) bombs just to kill a hanger the same as they do now. Nothing changes.
And the anti people..... OK, you're a fighter jock? Aren't you tired of killing Lancs? Or are you too much a popsicleCAT to accept the idea of a harder target? Good thing none of you work for my military.
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OK, you're a fighter jock? Aren't you tired of killing Lancs? Or are you too much a popsicleCAT to accept the idea of a harder target? Good thing none of you work for my military.
Good point, on the other hand. Just how uber of a bomber do you guys need to kill buildings that are not fighting back? You can't get it done with the current lineup? Glad you didn't serve in my military. :D
I'm not anti B-29 btw I'm for every WWII aircraft possible to be in this sim. Arguing about it is pointless anyway since the aircraft will be added as the owner of the company sees fit. :)
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What purpose and use in the bulk of the game are you referring to? The M Jug was another gap filler one of the few for late war setups. It has no air to ground ability for fighting teh warz! So how does that help in the bulk aspect of the game?
Other than the die hard P-47 fans who fly the plane for the pure love of it. The Ms biggest use is by people who want to boom and zoom furballs with little or no chance of being killed. Pretty much what your average B-29 beggar wants. All the advantage and little chance of having to deal with the inconvenience of having to fight.
the M jug is not a "gap filler" it was the absolute APEX of the (service) P47 lineage, not having it would make as much sense as having every P51 except the D.
it its flown by more than Jug heads, because its a competitive ride, fast, good climb, good guns.
Ms biggest use is by people who want to boom and zoom furballs with little or no chance of being killed
all 190s, K4, 51D, ... hell any plane that doesent compress before 500mph.. pot, kettle..
and the 29 would be used like any other bomber in the game.. to make things on the ground vanish, it would just be better at in than the rest.
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Good point, on the other hand. Just how uber of a bomber do you guys need to kill buildings that are not fighting back? You can't get it done with the current lineup? Glad you didn't serve in my military. :D
I'm not anti B-29 btw I'm for every WWII aircraft possible to be in this sim. Arguing about it is pointless anyway since the aircraft will be added as the owner of the company sees fit. :)
Right genius.. becuase thats the gist of every bombing mission, fly in uncontested and bomb buildings.. no buff driver ever has to contend with fighters or ack.. so yea.. thats why you see so many Ju88 pilots..
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the M jug is not a "gap filler" it was the absolute APEX of the (service) P47 lineage, not having it would make as much sense as having every P51 except the D.
it its flown by more than Jug heads, because its a competitive ride, fast, good climb, good guns.
Ms biggest use is by people who want to boom and zoom furballs with little or no chance of being killed
all 190s, K4, 51D, ... hell any plane that doesent compress before 500mph.. pot, kettle..
and the 29 would be used like any other bomber in the game.. to make things on the ground vanish, it would just be better at in than the rest.
The M is a gap filler, it's been asked for by P-47 guys since I moved to this sim in 2001 for late war ETO scenarios. As far as why people beside P-47 fans fly it...Thanks for making my point, it's perfect booming and zooming unmolested through furballs right along with the other usual suspects you listed. Although you did leave out the Tempest and Typhoon.
Right genius.. becuase thats the gist of every bombing mission, fly in uncontested and bomb buildings.. no buff driver ever has to contend with fighters or ack.. so yea.. thats why you see so many Ju88 pilots..
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Again thanks for making my point. If the JU-88 is so uber I guess there's no need for the B-29 after all since all you guys that want to fly around unmolested can just use the JU-88 or AR-234. Brilliant observation and you call me genius. :aok
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Duuuuuude............ I know you're joking right? The JU-88 & B17 carry the same amount of ord. But you certainly see a crapload more Fortresses then you do The Maid. I bet there is a reason for that.
If the JU-88 is so uber I guess there's no need for the B-29 after all since all you guys that want to fly around unmolested can just use the JU-88 or AR-234. Brilliant observation and you call me genius. :aok
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Duuuuuude............ I know you're joking right? The JU-88 & B17 carry the same amount of ord. But you certainly see a crapload more Fortresses then you do The Maid. I bet there is a reason for that.
I'm just jerking Nutt's chain. Of course there's a reason for it. Better armament which translates to a better chance of survival and a more legendary history. IMO.
Honestly though the buffs I see the least are the B-17s and JU-88s. The ones I encounter the most are B-24s B-26s and Lancs. Like I said earlier I am not opposed to the B-29. In all honesty though I would like to see the HE-111, G3M, G4M and SM-79 added first or at least a couple of them. I know many of you hate the idea that some of us want gaps filled. However for folks who do love special events the above missing bombers and a host of Japanese Italian and Russian fighters hamper the running of some potentially great FSOs and scenarios. Duuuuuuuude. ;)